Why do we find Japan-made female design much more attractive than the Western one?

>Old western designs looked far better.
gib examples

Aloy could look cute if she didn't have grandma hair and actually sounded like a woman.

better aesthetics and beauty

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We have this thread every fucking day. Stop it.
No (You) for you either.

West makes people.
Nips make dolls.

>West
Beauty is relative
>East
Beauty has standards

It depends what you believe

Would make both part of my harem t bh

I'd rather have good looking dolls than some el goblinas dykes

>left one is not a human face
>right one is actually a face scan of a woman

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An incel like you will never have sex.

Right one actually has a better design, even if you find the skimpy outfit of the left one more attractive.

They're both fucking terrible. Japan tries to make your dick hard at the expense of the art direction and west tries to check your priviledge at the expense of art direction

I hate Ashly Burch so fucking much. Has she ever given a good performance? Outside of showing off her ability to swallow dicks, I mean.

Right's skull is not humanoid

because japs design females to be attractive while western games design them to not alienate the unattractive women who they insist on pretending are part of their core audience

More like the face scan of a man.

Right one's design is based but I can't help but believe she's going to be checking my privilege at every corner

>hot people don't exist
As a hot person, I'm offended you think that makes me less human.

>right is reality
I don't know what kind of hell you'd have to live in where all your women are man-jawed with butch haircuts.

I don't think she's had a good role yet.
Aloy is boring as a rock so she can't really do much with it.
Hella girl from square enix lesbian quest is more embarrassing to her reputation.
Tiny Tina is bad writing combined with annoying voice.

You mistake fluffed up hair for a skull.
The left one is the deformed one with the wrong proportions no human (without plastic surgery) could achieve. Left one is unnatural. Even if you find the left one more attractive, that's a simple fact.

Take the right one’s outfit and the left one’s head and you got a great design. I really hate pandering and skimpy outfits but that doesn’t mean I don’t want attractive women

It's like they intentionally de-sexualized Aloy to avoid any potential waifu-ism.
You make a AAA game female protagonist who is the slightest bit cute or attractive with modern graphics and you get legions of waifufags, like what happened with Claire in RE2R

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>man-jawed
And that’s another thing, most girls I know in real life don’t even have those, why are they so prevalent nowadays?

>people actually think generic concept art #84 is a good design
I swear I've seen the same design in some shitty sci-fi movie.

>generic inhuman anime face
>attractive

You watch too much anime. Have sex.

An uglied up face scan of a qt is still ugly.

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more so that western design look like men

Because they made the real one ugly on purpose just to virtue signal

What’s wrong with people wanting to make attractive characters?

And you really need to move to a place with attractive people. Open your eyes and grow some standards.

Right was literally retconned for the sake of making her lack any sexual characteristics.

life is full of ugly people, why wouldnt you want attractive characters in your escapism

And I’m supposed to believe the left face which literally has more testosterone injected into it than can be contained in a powerlifter’s body is somehow more attractive?

My issue is that she’s not “realistic”, it’s that she’s literally uglier and less appealing than the average real-life human female.

>It's like they intentionally de-sexualized Aloy to avoid any potential waifu-ism.
?

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I really wanna know why you kids are so dedicated on making the same shitty ass, low effort threads day in and day out all for the sake of shitposting. Is your life really that drab and uneventful that you can't find a single better thing to do with your life? You couldn't be bothered to clean your room? Do the dishes? Literally anything other than posting the same ill thought thread for that quick dopamine hit for each and every (you) you get?

Like I did some dumb shit as a child, but at least that shit was fun and memorable. Shit posting the same boring ass thread ad noseum was definitely not one of those things, and I hope for your sake you stop. You're wasting the best years of your life for nothing more then being a mild nuisance to every other shit head on this board. Get help

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Japanese women are cuter than western women by default. Western women look like men plus western games are made by tranny goblins.

This is irrefutable.

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you kidding right, you are telling me this goblina creatura has waifufags fapping to it?

It’s okay to complain that people put too much value into looks in games, but I’m genuinely convinced that everyone who argues the right is more attractive than the left is either a woman or has no concept of what an attractive person is supposed to look like.

bait thread

It’s not even that, it’s just that the softer features you see in stuff like Japanese games translate better to the medium than the harsher edges of western stuff, even though both Japanese and western women can be attractive.

using manly hollywood women as all women
jews love to picky manly looking women because they are all homosexual weirdos
most white women dont looks like that

And yet here you are wasting your time writing paragraphs on the same thread as everyone else

*tips fedora*

Agreed. Left looks like dumb moe bullshit and the colors don't even work well together

Videogame characters don't wear makeup, women IRL do. So when you scan a female IRL and just paste it into the game you get their actual face that doesn't use makeup to cover up their facial imperfections.

I'm guessing you've never had a gf and seen her without makeup?

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>60% of her face is jaw, because her eyes are set way too high
Aloy is legit an abomination of the human shape. Almost Andromeda tier bad.

>Right was literally retconned for the sake of making her lack any sexual characteristics.
You're retarded. Not only do you misuse the word retcon, but you also think that cartoon proportions with shit designs is somehow superior.
Her new design doesn't have balloon tits like some pornstar with a shit boobjob, but in your mind that means it's shit and desexualized.

>a bit of midriff=sexual

?

Is left supposed to be considered a man-jaw?

Did you intentionally miss the point I made because you know you're wrong? Yes you did. Now move on, close-minded one.

>Videogame characters don't wear makeup
Why don't the devs apply it? I'd imagine prettying models up is much easier than applying make up irl.

Her new design has no tits period, because she's now a complete cyborg when literally every other game had her appearance be similar to Sub-Zero. But since she has no tits or hips and is so conservative, it MUST be good, right?

why is her head so fucking large

Girl on the left still cute but the obviously poor lighting fucked up her skin tone, eye brow coloring and lip color making her look washed out. This is obviously a camera issue.

Also neither of them have a man jaw which has nothing to do with makeup. The man jaw is most common in tall white lanky females which I have no problem believing are prevalent in the tech industry in the same way unattractive males are.

Also I have no doubt I fuck more pussy than you on a daily basis I've never been with a woman that had the large square jaw that shit is unattractive.

I don't really care if a character is ugly or not. But I do realize that a lot of modern female characters have moved away from being fap bait for dudes/lesbians and started being self-insert bait for college age women instead.
They're all basically the same offshoot of the same archetype but with a different hair style.

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Any Xin Xianying porn yet? I want to see her delicious flat tits.

And I’m asking you if the left is considered a man-jaw, retard, because that’s still more feminine than most of whatever we get from the west nowadays.

Women unironically have big ass heads you just dont notice it as often due to all the hair. Bitches walk around with big old fucking noggins.

Because the point of even scanning an attractive person is to not have to do it. But the fact that women use makeup to alter how their face looks is something most people don't even realize (as is evident by Yea Forums).
As in
>if we scan this attractive person we're still going to have to spend extra time to pretty them up to look as attractive as they do IRL
This means you can't hand the character off for the narrative department to start making cutscenes, rigging the face, testing lighting, etc.

every single day

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Why are you even arguing with her, it’s obvious that’s a testosterone-filled woman trying to feel better about her man-jaw anyways. Notice how she immediately takes out the low-hanging Asian makeup frauding fruit, but can’t even do that properly since she has no clue what a man jaw even is

because western devs try to make their female characters repulsive

>The west's priority is to make them as unappealing to men as possible at worst or average at best.
I really don't think this is true and I'm saying that as someone who hates Western designs. I honestly doubt they have much of an agenda.

a better reality makes a better output for fiction.

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College age women ironically dress more revealing on a daily basis. Going os far as to wear tights that show their underwear like its pants when going out side. Also it's fucking hilarious during winter seeing single women show off their legs and still attempt to dress sexy because they want the dick so bad. Fucking white women specially you can always tell if they are hunting for a man.

Women like to be sexy not self insert as some ugly dyke thats just a vocal minority,

>attractive women don't exist
This is your brain in sòy

that's like the only outfit she has in the entire game that has any sex appeal at all.

Because they gave her retarded nappy dreads. She looks way better with a hat on.

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I don’t think it’s gonna take that much more dev time to modify a character model that was scanned in to look attractive

>Her new design has no tits period, because she's now a complete cyborg when literally every other game had her appearance be similar to Sub-Zero. But since she has no tits or hips and is so conservative, it MUST be good, right?
I don't understand your argument here.
Are you saying that tits and hips makes a female design good? That this is the deciding factor?

And you're clearly retarded. You intentionally miss the point made because you know you lost. You desperately cling to something irrelevant to try and "win" because close-minded people like you don't like to be wrong.
The fact that you don't even realize that people have different genes is basically all I need to say about your irrelevant drivel, further cementing your retardation.
Even if I spoon-fed you it wouldn't matter, because you won't accept that you're wrong no matter what. I have nothing more to say to you.

Those are some cute girls there

In your instance OP, it's cause Aloy (on the right) looks like a dude with Down's, so..

Also, this is 4chins, where everything weeb is """""superior"""""

Xin Xianying thread?

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The "man jaw" is 1:1 from a woman, the one here People have different faces. Asians for example tend to have very flat faces. They also tend to have no hips, ass or tits as well as being rather short.

The problem is that your brain can't filter reality.

>DUDE JUST MAKE THE EYES BIGGER LMAO
Imagine being stupid enough to find AYYs attractive

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EL ABOMINACIO DE LUZ AMERICAS

I'm saying that tits and ups aren't a deciding factor of whether the design is good or bad. But in this case it's obvious what their priority is, given the shit they've already gone on record saying. Making women un-sexy for the sake of some agenda is bullshit. Why not find a middle ground? Not all women have to be sexy, but some women can be. Granted, a certain portion of the West seems to be trying to lower the standards for what is considered attractive in a woman so there's that too.

The non-meme truth is honestly white people.
There is not a single race on the planet that's more feminized than whites, and YES, I am including Japs in that comparison.
Whites are led by their retarded and insecure women, as such their media is almost entirely catered to retarded and insecure women, who hate seeing prettier women.
Even the white women you see on /pol/ and 8ch behave like this, it's honestly pathetic.

Left isn't even as "inhuman" as people are saying. She has japanese traits like the wide monkey ears, wide mouth, and thin lips. The long nose also shows up on japanese people, but generally the bridge is higher than that perfect curve, and maybe slightly larger. Doesn't look like the chinese character she's supposed to be though.

Literally the only thing I was pointing out was that most girls don’t have man jaws, and you can’t even prove me wrong.
Do you know understand how to even address a simple question without going on a tirade about some nonsense that has nothing to do with the topic at hand?
If you really think this is some stupid argument, then there’s no way I can lose because you don’t even know what the question being asked was in the first place. Also:
>close-minded people like you don’t like to be wrong
Is reddit down or something?

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>I don’t think it’s gonna take that much more dev time to modify a character model that was scanned in to look attractive
You don't get it. The point is to save time.
If you use the face cap actor as your voiceactor/performance actor then things get even more complicated.

What's the point of face scanning someone and then having your artists spend extra time to remodel the face and also messing up the rigging or having your riggers have to wait? Just so people on Yea Forums won't be assblasted?

JAPAN GOOD WESTERN BAD

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If you just took someone’s mo-capped face and pasted it into the game you’d have a bunch of edgy polygons anyways, so you could easily fit in time to make the design more palatable.

Because western devs are pressured into making ugly female characters.

>I don't know what kind of hell you'd have to live in
In real world.

I could not care less if the women don't wear bikinis anymore if their faces are more attractive and their designs are better. MK was never a series you played for the attractive female characters. That's what fighting games like GG, SF, etc. are for.
MK was about accessibility in controls and gore. Now it's also about non-shit story modes in fighting games. But that's it. MK was if anything known for their ugly as fuck women.

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watching the dykes the left makes will also make you gay so id rather be a faggot this way

>It's like they intentionally de-sexualized Aloy to avoid any potential waifu-ism.
Because they did it intentionally

fastcompany.com/3067624/how-the-makers-of-killzone-are-pulling-a-creative-180-with-horizon-zero-dawn

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Stop arguing guys, post Xianying.

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>Literally the only thing I was pointing out was that most girls don’t have man jaws, and you can’t even prove me wrong.
You didn't even prove this correct after making said statement, so why in the fuck should anyone care about someone that thinks baseless statements are facts? Dumb cunt.

>Japanese generic dolls designs

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That really isn't the case though. MK females may have always been a bit more 'masculine' but generally I wouldn't call them ugly.

Also funny you should mention those other series, because the West would gladly remove the attractive women from those if they could. Hell that's what Sony is trying to do now days.

>post a photo of an attractive woman on Yea Forums
>either no responses or people want to fuck her

>post a photo of a woman that looks like the ps4 movie woman
>people can't shut up about how much of a potato and manface she is

>post a ps4 movie woman
>people defend her with their lives

snoy is a disease

>MK females may have always been a bit more 'masculine' but generally I wouldn't call them ugly.
Fucking all of them were butterfaces. Many of them even had their faces covered up.
Even then their bodies looked like an intern made them because they looked like blow-up dolls.

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>yfw you realize the designs are generic because japanese people all look alike

Anime isn't real life. Have sex

It's not based on the game it's based on corporate relying on social media data to develop their products. Every single Japanese produced fighting game has attractive women in it, even when the game isn't about that. When NRS falls under corporate meddiling they can just fall back on a line of the same excuses even when their is no excuse.

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Fun fact: Xin Xianying predicted Zhong Hui's Rebellion.

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The west tries too hard to make everything based in reality. But they struggle so hard. At least the EU devs know what they're doing

>we
I guess that's why the net is filled with musou game porn, not Overwatch and shit like that.

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Because the Japanese identify the elements that make people find faces beautiful and try to accentuate in a stylized way to create something that our brain associates with beauty.
Meanwhile Westerners think that the concept of beauty is a patriarchal construction to oppress women, blacks and gays, and they subconsciously try to avoid it because their mentality has been totally compromised by a politically correct secular religion.

You realize there were games before 9 right?

It's actually publishers. AAA games are pretty much required to go more for realism and high fidelity, because that is partially what they think sells and they also use it as a showcase.

Blizzard is an outlier and they use chinese 3D artists most of the time. They keep a consistent artstyle and make things people actually would like to draw or cosplay as. I'm glad even with the cancer they are as a business they at least understand this. You won't be seeing any cosplayers dressing up as nu jade or nu-frost, but you'll see old jade and old Mileena alot.

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because right looks fucking gotze you have to be a faggot to find that attractive

>Right
Soul
>Left
Soulless

Oh I know. And then the devs have to defend the decision even if they feel otherwise, hence people blaming devs for the shitty designs. Even Donte originally looked like DMC3 dante until capcom kept rejecting designs till we got that monstrosity.

Why is the east so based but the west is so paste?

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LMAO! I forgot that the industry is like 75% trannies nowadays. And not the sexy ones from porn sites either but the ones who might as well have stayed men because they aren't even trying other than taking some stuoif pills thinking their gonna do all the work.

>publishers
>not wanting money
it's the studios nigger, studios are full of nu-males and trannies

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That looks bad though.

They fucked Aloy intentionally up though. The face model they used looks way better.

Slant women look too similiar to ea other and are generally as flat as a plank.

>Japan hates China
>Japan sexualizes Chinese women in games of all kinds if any chance and not to mention Chun-Li is like the Jap men's most popular first fap in their childhood

Explain?

It'd be nice if NRS could balance designs well instead of being black and white with it. Like I don't see anyone asking for bikini outfits but some middle ground that looks sexy but isn't too slutlike. Somehow Blizzard knows this talent well. NRS should hire some eastern artists in the next game. At least they take pride in their work.

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>manjaw

they dont, a woman on the grounds of her being older than 13 is not attractive

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Neil druckman is a special case, Sony doesn't need to interfere with his work since he does it himself. WB physically rejected many IJ2 designs because they were too sexy.

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>You won't be seeing any cosplayers dressing up as nu jade or nu-frost
You'll see a couple I bet. Even the cosplayers making tons of money selling their lewds, nudes, or whatever, generally lean left. I wouldn't be surprised if they did it out of spite, then moved back to skimpy outfits.

This. Left doesn't look like a soulless doll unless you think regular asians already look soulless, which you might do. But she's just a prettier version of an asian.

Well yeah the ones getting paid to dress up will do it. But after that nah

Meanwhile in japan

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america

Someone gets it.

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>You realize there were games before 9 right?
How could I forget.
You people aare too focused on them wearing more skimpy clothing over actualyl looking at how ugly they looked.
The only time MK females look ok was back in the 2D days when they were just photographs (as portraits) and tiny pixelated figures where you couldn't even see the face and shit.
MK was never know for having hot female characters.

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Wait is tranny porn actually good? I always skip it but I might have to expand my horizons.

>Not mentioning the Jews

>it's the studios nigger, studios are full of nu-males and trannies
No it's not. They're not the ones that want high fidelity and realism, the publishers do.
I know several game devs from all over the world because of my sister and her bf being in the industry.
Even Druckmann doesn't have any real power and has to have everything he wants to do go through execs above him.
Don't speak as if you actually know anything when you get your info from meme images on Yea Forums.

>You won't be seeing any cosplayers dressing up as nu jade or nu-frost
Max delusion.

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I like it. Its really hit or miss. Sometimes they have a nice body but a really ugly face. You cant go wrong with asian ladyboys, but black trannies, just stay away.

>Meanwhile in japan
Yeah indeed. Clearly they make the most attractive women.

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Japan bases 100% of its fictional female characters on European women.

The west bases 100% of its female characters on American lesbians.

>re2 remake claire
>cute

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dios mio

Is asian women vs white women the most highly debated topic on Yea Forums no, dare i say it, Yea Forums as a whole? Any time cute asian girls are brought up the thread 404s with 400+ posts

>Left
Young looking, small. You know it's a girl from 2 miles away. Eyes proportionally big.

>Right
Fat. 2 miles of forehead, looks like a young boy. Awful hair.

Sorry I don't like to fuck left's boyfriend.

What game you talking about? Nearly all anime is japanese girls unless the setting is specified to be western. And even then they look asian still.

Because the Japanese know how to make my dick hard

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The last MK event none of the girls they showed were wearing any of the new designs despite being paid to show up

desu I do find her cute, but that autistic expression she has... ugh

IDK if its just bias of my own beliefs but usually when asia sets out to do something, anything, it comes off more like its made by smart people who know what theyre doing. Western stuff comes off like a polished slop to feed to the masses, east good, west bad. Part of that I guess is you fucking put attractive characters in things. Dead or Alive 6 is super diverse without a single ugly character. I dont even take offense the ugliest man is the guy from USA

Does the industry make ugly women on purpose so we'll find real women attractive?

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The only good thing to come out of that turd of a game.

>spam of gold, cyan light and white armor
Did MK devs hire a blizzard retard to design their latest "fashion"?
Outside of the angry dyke head, right is 100% what I'd expect from blizzard

meanwhile left:
>beautiful woman who isn't ashamed of their body
>cultural outfit, albeit very overdone as typical for japanese devs
>very fantasy-esque but within 'realistic' standards

I don't play either game and I don't plan to, but right character screams 'NOTICE ME',

>not Dong Bai
Shit taste.

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how the fuck did they manage to transform the face of a mature 8/10 woman in to something that resembles an irish teenage boy?

literally HOW?

Well, it is realistic in the sense that a dike-looking woman is more likely going to participate in fighting, hunting, etc. than a pretty woman would.

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I'm in love with a video game character.

Because Japanese men (and women probably) prefer to look at sexually attractive males and females when they play games. Western devs perfer to have them all look like ugly trannies.

>video game character
You do know she was actually alive 2000 years ago, right?

Well Western devs are fine with attractive men. Hell if an attractive male gets a nerf like the women do to their sex appeal, they throw a fit and journalists write about how wrong it is.

> 3
La creatura

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Because in photos they use lighting techniques, angles, make up, make up in post, and most importantly photoshop. In games, despite having more and complete control of someone's face and structure, they decide au naturel is the way to go.