What makes a good female character, Yea Forums? Lots of posts complain about female MCs...

This. She's only a good character though if she likes me.

Based and redpilled

Female that is well written, instead of a bitch that forces all the men to be cartoonishly assholes in order to look likable and competent.

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Do you have an example for a good female character from any form of media? (books, vidya, tv)

by making her a footslut

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Not that user but my main girl Heather is pretty good.

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False. This is what devs do too often and the result are female characters that make no sense.

Pretty sexist so far. Basically a bimbo who obeys everything the player says? Probably gets pretty boring after a fashion.

Cringe and trannypilled

Main character from Rogue One was a good example. She was very dull, but I believe that was an acting problem. There was no overt heavy handed political messaging with her character.

I actually think Daenerys vacillates between insufferable and well written. Each season during the beginning of the show, she had a different character. Season one she seemed like a very relatable person. Season two she was very girl powery and grating. It's like every time she has a low point, she is well written again. Her high points aren't handled well.

Arya is a great character too, and does have some feminist messaging. Her struggle feels more genuine, more about the character and less about political messaging.

This right here is the problem. It assumes men and women are interchangeable, and they most certainly are not. They are different physically, emotionally, and mentally. That's not a bad thing.

>toering
l-lewd

This message was meant for you.

By not adding her as the only option? Because maybe I don't feel like playing a female MC ? Just like Jenny might not feel like playing a male MC ?

Came here to post this, 5 star post

Based and /thread

Write an interesting character with many traits and quirks that interact with each other to determine their personality and how they play their role in the story, and have one of those traits be that they are female.

based

I don't mind a female character if she is a well written character who just happens to be a female. The female characters I don't like are the ones there to check off a box for diversity and constantly remind you what a STRONK WOMAN she is.

What even are all the different mental differences, I understand they tend to be better at noticing small details. But I don't have a complete list of what differences tend to happen.

I hate Daenerys and Arya and hope both die. The fact that Cersei is the best living female character is very telling.

>that right arm
oh god what the fuck hahahahahahaa

Literal brainlets trying their best to make a valid point with a non valid idea

Huh weird that attractive women have to be labeled as bimbos or instantly relegated to being submissive as if a hot woman can’t also be a good character...

>who obeys everything the player says
No one said that tho.

>lacy, see through top
>low cut tanktop underneath

definitely a slut

Men handle spatial tasks better, mental tasks that involve working with physical items, hand eye coordination, they tend to be better with math/physics style tasks.

Women are better with interpersonal tasks, working with groups/people, and I *believe* they are better with tasks that require identifying differences in colors, but I could be wrong there. Women tend to handle multitasking better than men.

There are a lot more, like at what age our brains each reach maturity and what that implies for overall mental development, but it's a lot of info.

I lost interest in GoT. It became way too predictable. After the fight between the viper and the mountain is when I lost interest.

Don't let it be a caricature.
The whole SJW wave made a bunch of gross caricatures of women trying at the same time to be men and women. It's entirely anti-feminist by definition (once you actually know what feminism used to be about). A decent female character should be celebrated for her feminine qualities instead of trying to adapt male qualities. But most writers won't get this right because they're usually men with very limited understanding of actual female nature.

Yup, sadly. She's an iranian feminist.

You sound pretty sexist

fuck that EVERY MC should fo exactly what the player says, regardless of gender
fuck you film school rejects trying to cope through vidya

First message is meant for you. Phone isn't handling quoting well atm

*nods respectfully towards you*

>but how do I actually make a good one?
Post your game so we can either mock you or be surprised by its quality and also have some game world context for this female character you want to create.

it's so true. females have 0 accountability.

Guess every major civilization planet earth has ever seen was wrong then

>Probably gets pretty boring after a fashion.
It doesn't. That's why guys keep fucking the prettier girls instead of you.

You're not interesting just because you're ugly. You didn't develop a personality out of adversity, you just have a nasty little chip on your shoulder and that's all you are.

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oh I know who she is, its just odd to me that shes a slut given her background. People can't be perfect I suppose.

Ellen Ripley. Imagine the first 2 Alien movies, but instead of a female MC, it's just your general 80's action hero. It wouldn't work the same way, right ? Her character is strong in a believable way, and while not being the prettiest, she still has some appeal and is memorable.

And if realism isn't a concern, just go full retard and give her overpowered magic powers like in Bayonetta.

>strong
>armored
>lets you sit on her lap

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Ripley is just the modern bigger-man-than-men stronk woman after the first film, you only see her differently because of her development in the first one.
In fact she’s literally just a female Kyle Reese after the first one, slightly panicked in the face of the ultimate killing machine, before she goes full Sarah Connor

>Imagine the first 2 Alien movies, but instead of a female MC, it's just your general 80's action hero. It wouldn't work the same way, right ?
It would though because Ripley was written unisex. Not to mention the alien is supposed to make men extremely uncomfortable with its male rape and pregnancy undertones, as the par for Giger's works.

>r*ddit

So what makes a STRONK WOMAN (which Yea Forums hates) and a strong woman different? Because most really great female characters are portrayed as being mentally, if not physically, tough. Look at Samus, nobody likes the way her emotions were portrayed in Other M.

It's a good character that simply happens to be female.

The execution. The answer is always the execution.

Every woman is a slut, only some are repressed by society.

How to make a good female MC, step 1:
>Be Estelle

Don't be mean.

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>STRONK WOMAN (which Yea Forums hates)
Oh tranny, tranny...

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Based af.

Strong women = all female characters in fullmetal alchemists
STRONK WOMEN = all female characters in HBO GoT

this

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I want her fingers in my mouth.

I sort of liked how they did them in the first two Dreamfall games, it was better that way too. The last game was fucking mess and ruined the characters but at least I got some closure for the story

ask kojima when he gave a shit
but unironically

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I like this idea, user!

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Best female character is the strong Amazon who constantly makes it clear that she wants to mating press you.

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Make her an actual character. Dreams ambitions, flaws, skills, personality.

Not an ideological parrot. Not just eye candy. Make her stand for something, even if it's dumb, but have her believe in that dumb thing. Make her human.

I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess you're basing this on which one you beat your dick to more because Full Metal Alchemist was full of "Me woman, me stronk" female characters. Armstrong's sister being one of the most blatant displays of the trope.

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/thread

Strong but still feminine. A woman shouldn't be physically stronger than a man. However she should be a pillar of support to others or even herself. Emotionally she should be strong but also not afraid to show it.

Sarah Connor is a perfect example. Same with Ripley.

One of my favorite examples in modern Yea Forums is Daredevils mother from the Netflix TV series. She is motherly, supportive, but also doesn't take shit. She isn't afraid to show emotion, is strong but still feminine. She has a likable personality that doesn't push any kind of agenda down our throats. She loves her son and isn't perfect. And it's obvious she regrets her past.
Good characters are flawed.

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>samus
>character
she literally only jas a personality in Other M, she’s a fucking blank slate otherwise.

>stronk
the obligatory ineptly written “that’s right, a completely physically unremarkable 60kg WOMAN beat you 100kg muscle boys, and btw she’s also a genius and successful business woman” element
fucking Grace Jones is still the most intimidating female fighter in a major movie

It is indeed a brilliant idea

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it was pretty cool when he popped his head though

It's still kinda fun tu have a female character that can outplay men, tho.

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Are you trying to say Rey from Star Wars was ineptly written?!?!?!?!

Who says women can't pilot literally every aircraft they jump into and defeat every man with zero training?

>Lots of post complain about female MCs
That's because Yea Forums is full of bitter incels who get triggered over the fact people who are not white males exist.

It was funny, yes. But it kind of got my hopes up that they were going to prove my expectations wrong. When they ended up proving me right, I kinda just dropped all interest. It's too obvious which characters have plot armor in that show.

staged and fake as fuck, you can see the safety helmet if you look closely

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>you can see the safety helmet if you look closely

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A good character of any kind is one who's believable as what you intend them to be, e.g. hero, villain, supporting character, love interest, fapbait for virgins, whatever. And what you intend them to be is determined by your intended audience.

I honestly fucking hate women.

I want to jam my cock through the back of her throat until I see the whites of her eyes open in fear as the realization that she might actually suffocate starts to set in. I’ll give her a moments reprieve to breathe and go for another round over and over until she’s on the verge of unconsciousness. Fucking stupid whore. She knows it. She knows she’ll never amount to anything more than a slab of meat to be used up until she’s nothing but a husk of a slut ready to die of a meth overdose from years of being a shallow dumb cunt.

Fuck her. I want a train run on all her holes, ears and nose included for days on end until she aches all over and can do nothing but shit out her liquid diarrhea from her gaped asshole. The diarrhea being nothing but her consistent diet of being force fed cum all day. Stupid bitch. I hate whores. I hate these fucking sluts that think they’re better than me because they were born looking a certain way. Fucking cunt I hope thirty niggers beat her till she cries and then rape her. If I were the judge will let them off scot free even with video evidence, then release the video on the internet for all to see so she can never escape the shame and humiliation she deserves. Fuck her and fuck women. If she were drowning and reached onto my boogie board for help I’d stomp on her stupid slut hand and spit in the water so there’s more liquid to take in.

Why do these cunts think they deserve anything in life when all they contribute to society is their used up Arby’s pussy? Fuck I hate them. Bunch of dumb bitches everywhere you go. They have no respect for guys that don’t have a perfect physique so why should I respect them? I’m glad they’re all going to end up old and alone, knowing they’ll never accomplish anything of worth in life. Crying on their deathbed at the thought of having lived a vapid life of being a stupid prostitute. Fucking stupid bitches. Dumb sluts, the lot of them. Fuck whores.

are you retarded?

Relatable. Just like any good character.

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Never have sex. Instead, kill yourself.

It has to be natural and no forced fill-da-quota bullshit

The Rey argument is bullshit though. Whereas with Luke telling you he buzzed womprats in a T-16, you never see him do anything except drive around a beat up space junker. You actually see Rey in her opening setup driving a fast speeder craft and are explicitly showed she fixes ships. The lightsaber thing is about as credible as a farmboy standing on decent footing with Darth Vader after fighting a training droid, a mindless beast, and a hallucination in a swamp. Listening to the force and letting it guide you to do impossible shit is literally how the force works.

if I make my character relatable to a Mongolian goat farmer will you still think it's a good character?

I dunno just make her a person, just a one liner machine with sass like every bland male protag. Give me a bubbly protag who gets excited at stupid little shit, give me a protag who will stomp on a person's face for saying demeaning shit without the dumb one liners afterwards, give me a protag suffering from depression but presses on despite everything.

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Footfags get the rope

we have Captain Marvel because of people like you, user

>through the back of her throat until I see the whites of her eyes open in fear as the realization that she might actually suffocate starts to set in
Your dicklet is hardly long enough for that, incel

Shit character no personality lmao

Just copy Priss lmao.

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>Decent footing
Watch the fight again. Darth Vader was clearly just toying with him, as soon as luke landed a lucky blow and pissed Vader off the fight ended instantaneously.

Make her like pic related.

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>no personality
Did you even play SH3?

>floofpilled boomer detected

That depends.
>A Mongolian goat farmer written by a Yea Forumstard.
Oh, that is a no.

This. Luke was swinging wildly during this fight, leaving himself pretty open.

Let her be feminine and attractive and even if she is supposed to be in a game where she kills millions, let her do it in a believable way like stealth assassinations etc. instead of just making her emulate a man which nobody will ever take seriously

I always thought Faith from Mirrors Edge was good. Feelings for the people she cares the most about but at same time being a fearless runner with fighting skills

Of course. It's the best of the series, but not because of its main character writing

Trinity from the matrix was a well done female character who wasnt a cunt.

Yeah faith wasnt a bad character at all

You're forgetting that Luke learned the basics of the force from Obi Wan, then further trained with Yoda, one of the greatest Jedi masters of all time, for somewhere between one and three weeks, and further hones those lessons over the course of an entire year of intense training after getting his ass kicked by Vader at the end of V

What was Rey's training?

Maybe you're looking in the mirror if you're seeing a safety helmet.

Now I get it was no James Sunderland, but you saying that she had "no personality" is incredibly inaccurate, so you'll have to forgive me for doubting you for playing it. What exactly makes you think she has no personality?

Not only was she a good character, but she wasn't even attractive. It's still a mystery how they pulled that one off.

Make her an unlikable piece of shit that slowly changes and opens her mind to ideas that she previously would've rejected outright. Like getting rammed in the asshole full force.

>wasn't even attractive
She's not a 10/10 but if you don't find her hot you're gay my friend.

>hot girl has to be a bimbo
>having nice boobs means she obeys everything
>a submissive personality has to make her boring
yikes, like, uhm, sexist much?

While not a lightsaber, she's shown to be a competent melee fighter on Jakku. Presumably she's had years of learning to fight. The only real bullshit she did was the mind trick, because she'd never seen it before and even with all the stories around Luke and the Jedi, that power probably doesn't come up often. Anakin lived on a desert backwater planet during the height of the Jedi Order and all he knew about were laser swords.

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That fight is basically shot for shot what happens in the books tho

Right. I've never read the books. I had no idea what was going to happen. I don't care who wrote what, my care is that it became incredibly predictable.

I'd fuck her.

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Trinity had 0 personality and her entire character arc was telling Neo that he was the one because she loves him and then dying 2 movies later

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You would fuck anything

>What makes a good female character, Yea Forums?
Beautiful, side character or love interest of mc, not "strong" or other nonsense power fantasies unless it's in explicitly feminine manner

i didn't think sharp teeth was popular enough to be mentioned in something like this

Not ANYTHING, but it is a long list.

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She cant be a man with boobs and vagina ,even a dextery girl cliche type is better than the stronk women we have now

Has anyone got the other ones like this about making a generic sexy woman and a tumblr woman?

since when does gender mean anything when a creating a character?

They're usually good as a sidekick or as a doting wife.

a character should be male or female because the writer decided female suits the character and story not because of diversity quotas
lightsabers are bullshit in all films desu I don't buy it

Daily reminder that mutts in America will never ever lay eyes on a good woman.

A woman like in OP can only be acquired from the Med/Balkans.

>pale skin
Pass. Only thicc mulatta bitches work on Yea Forums

Requirements for a good female character

>cute as in cute face, nice slender body, and clothes that accentuate her features
>not annoying
>ALWAYS a supporting character for the real protagonist (who is likely a masculine man)

But she's American.

Anakin was the chosen one though and he didn't do anything that impressive up until episode 2(after several years of jedi training).

We've got better.

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You think a good female character necessarily requires Yea Forums's approval?

QUEEN TAY TAY

Lmao. You can keep the rats to yourself.

High IQ and high test response

No she’s not she’s Iranian. Americans simply bought her talent and put her on their American team to represent them because they don’t have anyone smart enough from their own country.

She's a US citizen so she's American. Doesn't matter where she's from.

>she has an active role in the narrative
>she makes at least one mistake and learns from it
>she has a design aesthetic that is evocative of her role in society

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Lol sure it doesn’t buddy.

Make women want to be her
Make men want to be with her/desire her
Stay away from advice from Feminazism, they don't even want to be themselves.

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>It wouldn't work the same way, right ?
because Alien is partly sexual horror as well due to giger's design
>And if realism isn't a concern, just go full retard and give her overpowered magic powers like in Bayonetta
bayo is literally Kamiya's mommy dom fetish impersonated which makes it doubly ironic

>being one of the most blatant displays of the trope
How so? Because her brother is afraid of her?

just like you make a good male character.
Don't have them be defined around a single attribute only.
Good characters have both strengths and weaknesses but neither should overweigh the other.
And finally, always make sure that the character is likeable. No matter how fucking complex and deep your character is, if the reader/viewer/player dislikes them then they're fucking trash.

You don’t know what sexist means

Give them big breasts

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kek based

i got u

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Actually very easy, just don't make a literal boy with boobs or a political statement: everything else is fine.
Doesn't need to be overly feminine either

>chess
Did you know that like in most sports, women chess players have their own championships and pro rankings? But here's the funny thing, unlike in most sports, this segregation is not enforced. Women do it willingly because they get absolutely destroyed when they play against pro male players.

For me its the Major, you can't describe her accurately without mentioning her feminine traits and personality, yet she's still competent and independent and cool and tfw no Major gf

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She's the perfect example of a strong woman without being "STRONK WOMYN"

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The Major was originally a man tho

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There are lots of well written female MCs.

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This is such a common argument and it reveals that the person is incapable of separating the concept of a bimbo looking character from bimbo traits, revealing their lack of imagination and hidden biases and prejudice against sexy female characters

I want to see a dev make a sexy bimbo looking character and make her competent and not cliche and watch SJWs/resetera have a field day when their biases get exposed as they expect her to be dumb and ditsy just because of how she looks, showing that these people only judge characters by their looks like the jealous catty bitches they are

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No she wasn't, you misunderstood what Batou said to her by "female model bodies"

She's female from birth, look at pic related and you see her old childhood cyber-body she rediscovered, go rewatch GitS

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A good female character stays at the house, cooks, cleans and takes care of 10+ white children

The maid stepped in yogurt! Again!

That´s a missinterpretation of the issue. A good character (male, female, black, white, etc) always requires the same things. Good motivations, clear objectives, a transformation arc, etc.
The problem with SJW media is that they don´t do this. They think the political statement of having a female or a black on the lead is enough when in true the only thing that is is opening the gate to a different type of conflicts and subjectivities. You still need to create the individual character, her individual circumstances, skillset, backstory and whatnot. A character won´t be good or bad just because of her sex or skin colour.

I think the reason SJW bad characters get more heat than other bad characters is because with other bad characters no one would deffend them when criticized. It is accepted that if it was shit it was shit while with SJW characters or stories there are groups of people that would deffend them because of political reasons. They are actually deffending something else, not the characters or the stories but the political ideas... but from the artistic point of view of what it takes to create a good character there is no such difference.

2b

have sex

woman can be strong, resourceful but also need a flaw or a set of flaws. this also apply to male chars too
i just hate perfect characters

Except she was a man originally and is basically written to be a perfect future Mary Sue, admitted multiple times by Masamune Shirow. (a guy who basically draws porn to make a living otherwise)

Based

A good female character was never written by a woman

>roseofmay.mp3 activated
Why is it so memorable

>What makes a good female character

Traits a regular woman never embodies but will always find a reason to complain about because it isn't realistic or relatable to her.

But what she really means though is sheer seething envy some fictional character has over her in the end and is recognised as popular by many, something she wishes to have for herself for selfish reasons.

Pic extremely related on the female mind set.

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Exactly, look at how upset her beauty makes the SJW/resetards, they can't accept such an attractive female character in such a role, their jealousy and prejudice pierces through their thin veneer of outrage

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You can actually play the ditzy bimbo card straight and still make her a likeable character.
Pic related.

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>after a fashion

get the fuck out Londonistanian

>Except she was a man originally
No she never was, where do you even get that from, unless you mean in Shirow's initial concept before finalizing the design for the manga?

>and is basically written to be a perfect future Mary Sue
Well I'm talking about SAC Major here as you can see by my pics and she's not perfect, has her flaws etc...

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Have desire and purity as mandatory stats.

not that user but sauce?

Compa from Neptunia.
The manga in specific should be "hello new world".

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I know, Japan is better at that, Japan overall has better female character variety because they aren't weighed down by these invisible yet ever present obligations influenced by the neopuritan regressive culture in the West, they have more freedom in their designs and approaches

Whereas in the West you have a very stifling environment now, that suppresses freedom and variety in favor of ideology and "correctness" leading to every female vidya character now feeling the same, cliched, and without variety from one to the other, overuse of the same tropes, toning down the femininity etc..

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Fuck that give me smug genki everyday over this ugly thing

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One not written by a man for a change.

That's pretty sexist user.
You should feel ashamed for posting such a low quality post.

fpbp

I came here just to post this.

If it's a main character, the game needs to be about prostitution, manipulation or mental illness. It'll never be believable otherwise.

1. Give her a dick
2. Take the dick away from her
3. Give her the subconscious desire to retrieve her dick from the bigger dicker
4. Pay me

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Don't actually inform the audience of the character's gender until they're knees deep in the game/story/etc. Ofc this only works if you write a good character from the start.

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Im just glad this shit is not popular enough to suffer the otherwise inevitable Yea Forums jokes.

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You have to make her with weaker physical stats than her male counterpart (less str, less hp, etc). This gives the game an added challenge and forces you to find other ways to gain success such as using your mind or vagina to get out of those sticky situations, just like a real girl.

Jesus these reddit plants are fucking retarded.

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AAAAAAAAAAA