What went wrong?

What went wrong?

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Having never played a Persona game I wasn't really looking forward to this character outside of the fact that he is just really fucking cute
Now that I have him, his playstyle is just underwhelming. He's lower tier.
Still, lots of fanart came out of this, so I'm satisfied for now.

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They chose P5 over P4 (aka the best game in the series)

Based.

His gun feels kinda shitty, honestly.

shut up and enjoy your mii costume faggot

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Everything about his moveset feels like a rehash of other moves in the game.
This is a character that can summon fucking demons in his own game and do all kinds of crazy magic shit yet in smash he's got notElfire, notHookshot, notCounter, etc
Wtf kind of lazy Sakurai shit is this?

kys normalfag, 5 is the worst game in the series

Not even so much as a tacked on Demifiend alt costume. Truly SMT is dead and gone.

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>faggot thinks he can tier characters this early

i couldn't care less about him

the best part of the update is map creation/sharing as well as clips. makes me happy they're going for longevity with this game

now if they could just fix the damn multiplayer

BASED

No BURN MY BREAD.

>Wtf kind of lazy Sakurai shit is this?

Sakurai has always prioritized some kind of play style he wants a character to have over whether or not it's authentic to the source material or actually fun and unique. For most characters it worked, but for some it's obvious that they were lazy about it.

I always imagined he'd have a kit like Shulk where he switches between stances (Persona's) in order to cast different moves. If they weren't going to do that they could've at least based his kit more around Arsene and managing something like a Stand Meter in the CPS3 JoJo's game.

Retard with no taste. Your kind plagues this board.

good argument

>NEW GAME BAD

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t. first game was 5

Any Shulk mains here? Is it just me or does it feel like his entire kit is based around screwing joker over online?

>P4 in a nutshell

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Good enough if that's your only response

The delay between gun fires is too long and makes it unsatisfying to fire more than once.

Which is crazy the god damn dancing games have more references to SMT than Smash

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Fuck off faggot.

>logo is the Phantom Thieves logo
>WTF WHY NO SMT CONTENT?!?!

fuck off retard

Why would you even expect Smash to reference SMT?

Why does everyone here expect any Nocturne references when the game sold like shit and no one cares about it outside a few contrarians on Yea Forums.

He’s worthless like the Plant. What the fuck were they thinking? I don’t know anything about Persona, but it seems like they got lazy. His stage is eye rape, too.

>best presentation of any character
>great music and stage effects
>LOOKING COOL JOKER
but he hits like a wet noodle, his attacks don't actually have much range or good frame data and the great power of GUN actually sucks
I know it's day one but at least gun is obviously really bad
Arsene should have buffed his range and physically attacked instead of just being a stat boost
Eiha's real fuckin' good though

It really is. Play the others you retarded fucking nigger.

>promised my brother I'd work really hard and try to go pro in smash if ridley got in, k. Rool got in, banjo got in, and snake returned.
>3 of my 4 requirements have been met, and banjo is looking more likely every day.
Help.
I'm just a roster fag, I'm not supposed to be good at this game. There are too many characters that I want to play anyway.

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Gun is too laggy. Arsene isn’t enough of a buff to bother with down B.
He ends up just playing like Sheik.

Nintendies going nuts over a DLC character from a game they'll never play

>banjo got in
except he didnt faggot
never happening u retarded shitter

But will his stage be tournament legal?

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>and banjo is looking more likely every day.
lol

Banjo has been in since 4 though

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Got him into elite and already made some people rage quit with him. Not too sure how good he is, he feels pretty solid, but not OP.

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mmmmm duck
imagine what is ass smells like haha

I know its hard to imagine but some people have jobs and can afford more than one console.

>and banjo is looking more likely every day
At least you're honest about being a rosterfag, but you're still a rosterfag

haha

I don't think they expect Nocturne references, I think they just expect SMT references in general. SMT was kind of a semi-big deal in Japan back in the 90s so it'd make sense to reference at least SMT1 and 2. Then again, they probably care more about appealing to westeners now so there is no reason to reference anything SMT aside from Persona 3 - 5.

He felt amazing to me in my short time with him. Quick, powerful enough for kills, spike, gimmick shit. I think you guys just suck dick at the game lmao

>ponyfag game

blows my mind people think p4 is the best one. The ONLY way you can think this is if it's your first one or you have only played 4

>smashfag thread

That user expecting references to Nocturne is dumb, but it's kind of disappointing there were no references to the generic Persona/demons at all, only the P5 cast.

The trailer made me a bit hopeful when they called out how weak Arsene actually is, but then nothing.

>stage changes colour based on the song that plays
>no Persona 1&2 music

Even the PSP Persona 1 Jpop would have been fine guys!

LOOK INTO MY EYES

Joker really comes off as that character who everyone denounces initially then will proceed to do some broken shit the more people learn about him.

Same thing happened with Bayonetta.

Probably because they just added a Persona character to Smash, and Persona is a spin-off of the Megami Tensai series.

You dingaling.

Nah, the lower trains do damage and a solid platform can appear midstage which would lead to up tilt infinites

With stage hazards off?

i think the solid platform still appears

This joker seems to be the laziest character yet
He just feels like 3 worse characters taped together

Soulless.

Someone made a post about how the pass is on sale, is this true?

It does not.

>they still didn't fix the changing costume lag
are you fucking me

>Takes 10 seconds to load a fucking png

Literally what in the fuck is wrong with the programmers of this game. How is every single thing in this game optimized EXCEPT for render loading

I wish the game remembered the costumes I picked for characters like 3DS smash, then this wouldn't bother me as much.

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Tried Joker for a few hours, but didn't really figure out how to use him effectively. When he has his persona out, he can edge guard pretty well with his aerials. Still didn't figure out how to use the gun so that it does anything. Maybe continuing with the jumping downwards shot is the way to go or just shooting once to follow up opponents flying horizontally.

>Can’t angle the grappling hook
>Hitbox is small as fuck

Then why even bother making it an attack

>Guns are slow and laggy
>Do shit damage and no knockback unless you fire it point blank which is an awful idea

Then why EVEN BOTHER

WHY IS THIS GUY ALWAYS ADJUSTING HIS FUCKING GLOVES DOESNR HE HAVE ANY OTHER POSE FUCK