3.0.0 speculation thread

SHOW ME YA MOVES

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patch every fucking swordie out of the game

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>Nerf bad characters
>Leave good characters good
>Do nothing for the rest of the characters no one uses

Why do the Japanese do this shit? I remember when SFV had a plan to buff the weak characters, leave the good ones good and rework the rest. They didn't follow through, and no one ever fucking does.

Can we get some new fucking alts pls?

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>mii brawler buff
>snake nerf
And that’s all I need

I wish his up air and down air had like one more active frame.

cant wait for my mid tier character to get nerfed AGAINl

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When is this update actually out? I was told today but it’s already 10pm

Open in a new window newfag.

Hoping they buff her down-tilt to have its original knockback angle and they make her grabs faster or have a little more range. Nerf Nayru's Love though, it's stupid good at the moment.

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Get the fuck out of here Nate

If Bowser Jr doesn’t get a god damn buff I am going to rip my balls off

Kill yourself dedede fag

PLEASE GOD I WANT HIM TO BE GOOD

Buff Wolf's side b so that it doesn't special fall, thanks.

F for Fire Mario

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east coast is the only part of the world that matters and there its at some time between 8-10pm

give sheik a buff pls

>all inputs replaced with taunts
>automatically counters with a throw if attacked while taunting
>projectiles get thrown too
I'm okay with this.

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Based

Dr. Mario is so fucking white he can’t jump. When are we getting that better recovery?

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1v1 me fag

I better not catch any of you online because I'm going to play better than I ever have in my entire life tonight. Omae wa mou shindeiru

I too would enjoy a buff for best son.

IT'S UP LADS

GOGOOGOG

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Im going to be 1v1ing my bro and co-oping so I wont be there to break your win streak

>lumping best boy Robin with those swords only countering high tier fucks

>every single input is a taunt
Just throw him. He cant move and cant counter a grab.

Hours left?

F

He can't counter the grab, but he throws the physics of being thrown.

9 PM EST iirc

You used the wrong "Flare" in Zard's description.

Little under 4

>High tier fucks
Marth, Roy and Chrom are mid tier at best and people are dropping Ike because he's too braindead.

1:30 britbong time.

he's not white, he's Italian

Well damn
Guess I’ll do it when I wake up

Online servers are down until 3:30 too, so you're better off just going to bed user. It was the same for Plant too, I hope this doesn't become a regular thing.

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Livestream it
He’s getting nerfed

The sooner I go to sleep, the sooner Joker will be here!

Exactly, just like Christmas morning.

What are the chances Falco gets buffed? He needs an actual neutral game.

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>YOUR MAIN IS GETTING NERFED

Boy howdy I hope not, that would be fucking tragic.

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whens this shit supposed to be coming out

Outside of needing a few tweaks Ridley is great.

She doesn't need any changes, she's perfect the way she is

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>game and watch main
>been molested by my own mother
>starved for days since my mother thought buying cocaine was more important than feeding me
>watched an actual pedo dick one of my male friends
>saw some dude put fireworks? In his dogs mouth and have it explode

Can I please just get a 9?
Buffs to fair and uair would be nice too

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I'd sure like some options that aren't nairs and tilts.

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Fuuuck I just want Rex in so I can hear him be super genuine and nice to his opponents
I'll gladly take any other Xeno rep though,

>YOUR MAIN IS GETTING NERFED
Welp, at least better be a soft nerf

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>YOUR MAIN IS GETTING NERFED
Probably. We had a good run, and I enjoyed knowing that she was more than viable

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Please nerf that bastard

>snake
>getting a nerf
lol

Which character is for me if I have a large penis and flaunt it every chance I get?

mfw Little Manlet goes from bottom tier to high tier in a single patch

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Ridley, because that's about the size of your ego

I THINK THIS GUY MIGHT BE A DEV

RENT FREE

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>I unironically defend boring characters who all play the same

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Jesus Christ user I hope you and your friend are in a better place now.

That's not why you want them out, you want them out cause you struggle to fight them and it's easier to shit on them than to think you need to get better

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>My opinions are objective facts
Yeah, yeah, fuck off back to a rosterfag thread

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>That's not why you want them out

I want ugly characters who can be high or top tier by pressing 2 buttons out of my video game, yes.

Maybe if you didn’t spam your Side B you wouldn’t get any of your other attacks nerfed instead.

Is froge gonna make it though unscathed?

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>>YOUR MAIN IS GETTING NERFED
He's not even in the game yet

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whenever I see people bitching about inkling gilr schoolgirl outfit make sme wanna wear it more, I devoted myself to her not because I'm a secret pedo btw really niggers, you are proyecting a fucking movie but because I love Splat and I love the looks of the outfit.

Theres no way to fix him
Let him rot

>Autism
But I just want to play as saki.

how you make that black bar ?

Deep down I wish Simon and Richter could be more different from each other, or at least I wish for a more reliable down special

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>defending swordies

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FALCON BUFF
FOX stays the same again

That looks familar

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See

>not liking BASED Holy Water

Literally the only reason to use Richter over Simon is for that sweet blue plume.

this, do the same for Peach and Daisy. These echoes are basically interchangeable right now so make the echo counterparts interesting

>still defending bland sword characters

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This is my lot, boys. How fucked am I?

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you are fucking kidding right?

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>spoiler jepeppy
/spoiler jesus
chicken /spoiler/ chicken "spoiler" chicken soup

It's objectively better, granted only for one matchup but still. It does Aura damage, not fire. So it'll stop Red Pikmin, which Simon's won't.

Lurk moar

plz help plz

I wouldn't be surprised if he get's nerfed due to all the whining I've seen about him despite that he's not that difficult to counterplay. Feels bad

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I can only hope they don’t touch my precious little boy. But I’ll live with a minor nerf.

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Ah, but Simon's will set off Link's bombs if he's holding them, and detonate things that care about fire. It's a minor tradeoff but it's there.

See

I just want the echoes and Corrin gone.

did i do it guys

At this point, just knowing they exist makes you squirm in anger is enough for me
and they're not going anywhere

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We should’ve had pearl

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I wish Joker had this instead of the white uniform.

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>Second-best if not best in the game
>Please don't nerf him
Fair, it's just matchup specific I guess.

/spiler/did i do it/spoiler/]

But that would three alts user, too much work for sakurai

i mostly play wario, incin and snake. not too worried about the possible nerfs desu, i think my boys are for the most part safe from the balance team

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i want to suck his cock

Does Joker make anyone else question your own sexuality?

GIVE
BACK
META KNIGHT'S
OLD
FINAL
SMASH

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people whine about lightning loops don't know what DI or SmashDI is. But I forgot. Nintendo caters to the lowest common denominator. Look at what happened to Krool.

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PICHU NERFED
IVYSAUR NERFED
CHROM NERFED
KIRBY BUFFED
LITTLE MAC BUFFED
DUCK HUNT BUFFED

FE cucks everyone

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>i mostly play wario, incin and snake
oh and ganon too but i remember sakurai specifically mentioning that, despite the character's huge popularity online, he won't be touched

>2 top tiers with good tourney and elite smash results
I mean, I don't think they're in the business of killer nerfs (save Megaman in 2.0), but still.
K.Rool literally only got his recovery nerfed, which was needed. He already lives the longest on the roster as is.

G&W main too, grew up watching my mom work and was raised by my abusive alcoholic father who'd slap us and her around.

Who would've thought this'd be a reoccurring thing for G&W mains.

I want his up smash to have it's old i-frames back

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are you girl?

> I don't think they're in the business of killer nerfs (save Megaman in 2.0), but still.
wario is popular in elite smash? i really haven't seen that many, maybe it's just me

when is the update going up

Expect a shit ton of piranha plant buffs, because right now they're charging $4.99 for a bottom 5 character.

why isn't the patch live yet?

[spo iler] [/sp oiler]

I don't know about him, but Snake is popular across the board and Wario has got very good tourney results.

Playing Mega Man (and nothing but Mega Man) is both rewarding and gives you a case of mental suicide. It can be soul crushing at times. I hope he doesn't get touched and he becomes Smash4 tier.

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Isn't the new one strictly better? I mean, Galaxia Darkness was way cooler but it didn't wank Sakraui shit hard enough I guess.

oh yeah, i'm well aware of snake's current position. but wario, eeeh... he isn't that oppressive in tournaments, in my opinion

I hope my boy doesn't' get nerfed.

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wow thanks friendo

Nah. Just a guy without much fight left in him.

I used to be more aggressive and violent as a kid, since the abuse stopped I've become more passive and lost in life. I also main DK and Incineroar, those guys don't need buffs though, fine as is.

110 minutes

Our suffering is forever, why else would we main a low tier?

>the jiggs mu was his best in 4 since you could just spam upsmash and she couldn't do anything to you
Why the fuck did they even change it? I don't use it other than to catch rolls now

in the end everyones a faggot

He's not oppressive, and while Glutonny might be carrying him, he's got insane aerial game.

Louie Gee is wrong

New Flame Sword is fucking delicious, though. Not having to rely on that janky ass Slash Claw to get those air kills is so, so nice.

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I want a tongueless alt of Greninja.

Some fairly safe guesses:
>S4 top tiers remain mostly untouched outside of minor QoL stuff
>Some top 5 nerfs, mostly Olimar/Pichu
>A few high/mids like Dedede and Greninja get unnecessary nerfs
>Nobody gets any significant game changer buffs except possibly Plant
>Everyone will complain about Joker's counter/Arsene but he'll only end up decent at best, largely unused in tournament

true true. by oppressive i meant something like wolf: a character who's both extremely popular and has results too

i love dokniey knog too

This shit being removed was retarded

>tongueless alt of Greninja.
>when Greninja incorporates the tongue into at least one move

Didn't they say they balance around online results mainly? For top tiers that automatically puts big targets on Pichu, Wolf, Palutena, Lucina, and maybe inkling. Peach/Daisy and Olimar squeak by barely because they damn freaking rare online.

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Please, PLEASE buff Simons recovery

Something to do with the animation I bet. You know, another thing from Smash 4 that I miss is u-air killing. It was funny watching our boy ocassionally beat out the Bayo ladder combo.

Where the fuck is the update?

SPECTATOR GAMBLING WHEEEEENNN

Yeah, Wolf's probably got a massive target on his back. There's a reason it's a thing that everyone has a pocket Wolf, it's like Cloud in Smash 4.

No way Jose they said he would be out before end April it isn't ever end April yet

I'd rather they buff other characters rather than focusing on nerfing. The Top tiers right now aren't broken or anything. They're just extremely well-rounded. Other characters need some sort of specialty to compete.

>Doc
>Pacman
>Mario
>Luigi
>G&W
How did they all fare, changes wise? Anything I need to look out for?

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The most satisfying thing to me is landing his Shoryuken. They never expect it and wonder why they die around 100% or less and are left confused. It's so risky to use it but if you connect.

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joker will be mid tier and CAPTAIN FALCON will continue to be the best in the game. he will falcon punch his way into your heart and you can't shield it

Just use lasers, bro :^)

I wish he had more expression.

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it's not out yet. less than 3 hours to go

True. it could be much worse

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Since this is the last time I can do this.

Hopes for your main?
Dreams for your main?
Fears for your main?
Realistically what is going to probably happen to your main?

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luigi will still be a mama no matter what they do

>arena still not fix
>still can't pick your character or music without losing your spot
Garbage

>upair not killing
this is a disgusting offender
You cannot watch this webm of someone getting hit with an upair near the top of the screen at 100+ and saying that its just as intended

why'd he get hit with so many nerfs?

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Can I get some Joker memes and reaction images?

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Random for solo queuing.

that Duck Hunt one is spot on.

>Doc
Make it easier to recover, overplayed downside or not
>Pacman
Minor buffs, nothing crazy
>Mario
Keep as is
>Luigi
Keep as is
>G&W
Make his fair more landable

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Sonic's in a really good spot right now actually, much less oppressive. He's just still annoying and unfun to fight against.

has he ever

Ridleybros, what realistic tweaks do you think they could give Ridley that wouldnt really change him, but make him a much better character.
Some of my thoughts:
>Increase recovery range so that backwards recovery can reliably make it back to the ledge after doing three jump+fairs offstage, obviously buff is in every direction but it always feels like its just slightly too short for what it needs to do
>Down air either gives you control back sooner or can be cancelled with jump.
>Disjoint hitbox on tail stab attacks is slightly longer than it is now
>Skewer has very slightly faster startup
Obviously he needs something to keep him from being combo food and dieing super easily, but I cant really think of any good options there, increasing weight maybe but only if it doesnt effect his speed.

Hoping for the short hop multiplier being the only nerf.
Dream that the nerfs if they come are minor.
The fear is the return of Brawl Peach
Realistically just short hop applied to float attacks. Same thing happened in 4 where floating attacks didn't stale before they fixed it,

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Too bad Holy Water is a bad projectile, it would be better if you could change the arc of the toss

>Hopes for your main?
Some type of buff.
>Dreams for your main?
Non-shit specials, range buff.
>Fears for your main?
Nothing happens.
>Realistically what is going to probably happen to your main?
Nothing.

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I did like the older one better. It was much cooler.
>BEHOLD

>Hopes
They buff her grabs to be faster.
>Dreams
They give her higher air speed.
>Fears
They nerf her and do nothing else.
>Realistically
They change nothing, again.

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Why didn't they make the text white?

>like fire emblem
>fucking hate corrin
now where do i land?

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Mega Upper is a joy to land. Honestly between that, a full Slash Claw, an Air Shooter carry-off, a Hard Knuckle dunk, a roll read with Flame Blast, or just a fully charged Mega Buster, old Rock might just have the biggest list of satisfying moves to use in the whole series.

I dunno man, his constant deadpan just makes that smile when he wins all that much more precious.

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>Hopes
slight quality of life to make him a little more consistent
>Dreams
further buff his already good options
>Fears
nerfing leafshield and other tools into the ground making him Smash4 Mega Man
>Realistically
Nothing or nerfed to deal with the lowest common denominator due to bitching again.

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Yoshi like always will be left alone while swordshitters are gonna get nerfed. Making my guy top tier except for peach turnip faggotry.

Definitely fix jab lock so you can't roll/jump out of it, maybe make side b slightly harder to break out of. Slight aerial land lag buffs.
Recovery height seems fine but maybe give him a slightly higher arced horizontal up b, that shit's awful as is.

W E L S H C A T
E
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The only tweak I want is to make side b unable to be mashed out of.

Landing a fully charged Mega Buster at someone offstage or just doing it for shit and giggles and it kills them is simply orgasmic

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>Hopes for your main?
Shaving off startup frames
>Dreams for your main?
Boosted horizontal aerial movement, arts getting an extension, the ability to up tilt without trading
>Fears for your main?
Slowing his nair down
>Realistically what is going to probably happen to your main?
Little tweaks, if any. He's in a pretty good spot as is.

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I have no idea I just got online from twitch like a week ago. Currently getting all the online comic images. Sort of want to play inciniroar, ness, lucas, corring, and joker.

Where can I find tech and how to do combos and execute goofy crazy shit? Is there a good source of learning content anywhere that isn't autistic nigtenyearolds making hour long videos of them failing to do something as easy as a short hop?

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While I would say that would be unfair you ahave shit like bowser's instant command grab that you cant do much about, while Ridley's command grab has far more range, its telegraphed 5 minutes ahead of time, so maybe adjusting the mash effectiveness / percentage ratio would be good.

No

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>complains about kiddies who can't do basic things while being unable to do basic things

Make nair bigger and faster

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>Hopes
Bombs don't get cancelled when touching shields. Up smash connects with smaller characters, dtilt lag is reduced slightly.
>Dreams
super missiles can actually kill, making them more threatening. Upthrow becomes a decent kill option against midweights at higher percents
>Fears
All of her good aerials get nerfed, screw attack somehow becomes an unsafe option out of shield, charge shot either gets even more startup/endlag or gets reduced knockback, we lose her one good throw combo
Realistic
Nothing. In fact I'd go so far as to say last patch is the last time she will ever get mentioned in patch notes.

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let up smash hit short characters on the ground.

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And stronger too?

you're a normal person

"spoiler>"haha i figured it out now"spoiler/"

MY MAN ROY GETTING A DOWN B COUNTER ON TOP OF HIS LITTLE EXPLOSIVE CRITTER

FUUUUUUCK

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>Hopes for your main?
A little extra kill power on moves like up air or up throw. I'm really fine with how he is right now, though.
>Dreams for your main?
Smash 4 up B back, the sweetspot for pin becomes larger and isn't affected so much by hurtbox shifting. In addition or not to the above.
>Fears for your main?
I don't have any. Corrin is extremely off the radar.
>Realistically what is going to probably happen to your main?
Nothing, or some minor buffs like in the last patch.

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Fuck off faggot nobody is reading your shitty ideas for your gay character

Yeah, and make him the next member of the DK Crew.

When will this faggot get a haircut?

Wait is Joker still not released yet? Are you fucking kidding me? I just got home from work and the game still hasn't been fucking updated? Fuck this game man.

I want Mewtwo's Side B momentum back. was fun flying around with it. Also i don't use Shulk but make his stat boosters last longer? They lst like 3 seconds now

Just wait 2 Frieza seconds fagit

>They lst like 3 seconds now
because the buffs they give shulk are supercharged now. They basically just gave him hyper monado arts from smash 4

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I want the old Arts back too

I can do some things but looking for any sort of technical tutorials or detailed character guides is a fucking slog through a trash wasteland of twitch zoomers and literal retards. Whatever guess I'm gonna be grinding out learning matches. See you boys with the sub 4k GSP solos.

Please give Lucario a slight hitbox buff on down air to compete with some heavy hitters.

Thats basically all it needs.

is it must me or does zelda have a nice ass in Smash Ultimate

>when you get so good at smash that people start recognizing you in lobbies and kicking you out of fear
>closest local is an hour and a half

fuck my gas money

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>Hopes
Recovery buff
More forgiving hitbox on uptilt
>Dreams
Mobility buff
>fears
Tornado/pill nerf
>expectations
No change

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used to be me in smash clones, all I ever wanted to do was play FFA and gimmick modes but I played so much that nobody that wasn't capable of top 8 placements could beat me

T W O H O U R S

Zelda has a nice everything in Ultimate
God I wish she had an alt with shorts and bare feet

IzAw's Art of Smash tutorials are what you want, bro.

If this game had the ability to jab cancel it would be sick because I would definitely enjoy the character more if she had that.

Since we lost perfect pivot its really hard for me to enjoy this character and she was my second most played character.

I AM THOU

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>Hopes for your main?
Faster air speed for the fucking space dragon for god's sake
>Dreams for your main?
A brand new recovery that isn't trash
>Fears for your main?
Nerfed because he's a heavy and Sakurai has shown to despise heavies
>Realistically what is going to probably happen to your main?
Buff to some shit that doesn't matter

Buff everything for my nigga Charizard. What Sakurai did to him in ultimate should be a crime

>tfw Corrin Main
>Type like 8 paragraphs a thread defending anime swordsmen.
I swear to god it all would've been so much easier if he was baseline for ultimate instead of released as dlc alongside and for the same price as ryu and cloud when the game didn't even come out yet.

youtube.com/watch?v=o4iMO-1eiWk

I hate nintendo for not lettimg me use jap audio on this.

inb4 sakurai takes a big fat smelly shit on ganon

Just one good kill move
Thats all I ask
I just want to have my main backplz

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You can change Smash to Japanese any time, dingus

Where are the patch notes going to get posted?

Captain Falcon actually viable please?

If Sheik get's a kill move or confirm I'll actually pick her up.

>patch notes
>smash
I give you the patch notes:
"Various gameplay fixes."

user we had patch notes for 2.0. Granted they were in really weird terminology but we had them

Are you retarded?

post yfw the stage builder is actually good

so when is it dropping

We got patch notes in 2.0...

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For the love of god give Captain Falcon a buff for once Nintendo.
He is literally the worst he has ever been, and he took some heavy nerfs in Brawl.
Yes, he has a couple good kill moves but he dies so easily and virtually none of his moves have any kind of priority. He has a harder time approaching than Gannondorf does.
He could literally be the same as his Melee self and he wouldn't break the game. The power creep with most of the cast is crazy.
Also give Game and Watch a break and let him kill at a lower %. The amount of damage you have to rack up as G&W to take a stock is just absurd. Even Plant has more reliability to it.

Is your main a name-chad?

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>DDD
>four syllables

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King

That wouldn't fix her god awful hitboxes on her fair, bair, and dair.

I picked up Daisy to learn how to play against her. She's pretty fun. I'm fully expecting nerfs to all of these except Robin who will be sadly untouched.

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>expecting Ganon to get nerfed
lol why

Didn't feel this needed its own thread but figured I'd share in here. Reggie posted this art from Retro Studios on his twitter account and there seems to be a character strategically hidden. I've never played any of the Prime games, so correct me if it's something from that, but could this little robot (?) dude be something from whatever the hell Retro's been working on?

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Sonic just needs his B move changed into another move. Its so damn similar the move description text screen actually mixes it up with his down b.

Otherwise he is at the right spot where he isn't going to solo a tournament but perfect as a pocket counter.

K Rool is not going anywhere, fellow lizardfriend

Casuals hate him.

The same reason Rool got nerfed, shitters

Two syllables is perfection. Memorable but not generic.

>can steal good stages from people with actual talent
the best part

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>k rool
>not getting a buff

K. Rool is actually good and they barely nerfed him
Ganon isn't

>Krool better than Ganondorf

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>K. Rool is actually good

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k rool's counter completely obliterates ganon

I'm scared because I'm gonna be really upset if people make better stages than I ever could. In mario maker the levels are 90% kusoge so I can feel good about myself.

They just need to give Robin some proper punch on his aerials and make Arcthunder not literally worse than Elthunder in every respect. I'd kill for a little bigger hitbox on Nosferatu but I realize most people don't care about that move in the first place.

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>Ganondorf better than K. Rool

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More taunts would be nice.

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>levin aerials
>not good

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>Robin has powerful magic that is why he has uses on his tomes!
>Every thunder outside of thoron loses to simple shit
>Arcfire barely works
Yeah great fucking magic.

any counter destroys any dumb or overly aggressive player pretty evenly, but they are better against heavies across the board

What makes you think we'll get balance changes?

Just started maining him this week. :(

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They could also make arc fire not be destroyed by virtually everything.

at below 3mil GSP where you sit maybe, good counters are mostly useless and a shitty counter like Krool might as well not be bound

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they confirmed replays will be deleted

Doc is a name chad in either direction. A five-syllable full name and a one-syllable nickname

>GSP
fuck off, elitist retard

Because we got balance changes in the other big numbered update that added Piranha Plant, see no reason they wouldnt change more here as balance team has more and more data to work off of.

The fact that replays from 2.0.2 will be incompatible with 3.0.0.

>he cant even break out of gay baby jail zone

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Source?

>imagine being below 3 million GSP

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Why is Squirtle dude weed? Joe Rogan look likeness?

It's 3 point fucking 0

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>levels are 90% kusoge so I can feel good about myself.
>implying Smash will be any different
Come on user.

>elitist
What's next, are you gonna call him a tryhard you scrub?

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6pm I think for pacific time. 9pm for est

anyone that uses the garbage that is quickplay as a merit to someones skill is frankly, a retard

Had trouble finding the tweet. Thanks, user.

Robotic Operating Buddy has the most syllables in the game

using it as a metric at high level play is foolish but it does its job at exposing maximum retards like yourself

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Quickplay and GSP in general are just awful systems that need a full rework

np

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Just fix their hitboxes so they actually have to face the right way to hit someone, and give them a landing animation. Boom, balanced the swords.

Give more startup and/or less range on the disjoints. Along with what you said. NOW they're more balanced. There's a reason top players consider Lucina the best in the game.

Just don't touch wii fit trainer so she can continue being the sleeper powerhouse she is and I will be happy

also buff duck hunt. Clay pigeon should come out faster. Gunslingers should shoot farther.

He just needs like 10% more distance on his recovery and he'll be instantly better, either that or let him up b after a side b. But knowing that K. Rool got nerfed because of shitters crying about him, I just know they're going to neuter something about him instead of buffing him.

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>Clay pigeon should come out faster.
They nerfed that because base version was stupid good on aerial opponents.

>Clay pigeon should come out faster
that thing already combos super heavies to 50% for free, any worse and I would have to pull a pocket for it

He has a stoner dude voice

>tfw Dedede and Kirby main
Well, except for the "is not aware" part, it's actually spot on. Out in a bar, early morning nearing 8am, for some reason we all scroll through phone galleries and end up just casually showing off nudes after running out of other stuff and the two girls on the table just go "oh my god what" after persuading me to show as well.
Too bad nothing is ever gonna happen with either of them, but it feels genuinely nice to be appreciated.

The 3.0 update seems nice, I loved dicking around with the stage builder in Brawl and Joker looks fun. When is it gonna be actually worth it to buy a Switch if I am mainly just interested in Smash and the only friend I have that plays it is away on business trips too often?

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you think we'll get any new mii costumes?
i hope we get one for knuckles i've always wanted him in smash

Chris Chan reference

Not sure who the robot is user.

That aside, that Dixie art just makes me want her in Smash more. What a fucking shame she isn't in.

Please for the love for god Sakurai, remove the hurtboxes off of Mewtwo's tail attacks. At least let it clank easily with other attacks.

Fuck off, its part of his body its a hurtbox.

Did you not watch the fucking trailer?
We're getting:
>Morgana (P5)
>Persona 3 protag
>Persona 4 protag
>Teddy (P4)
>Tails
>Knuckles
As Mii costumes.

user....

literally who lol i just wanted my sonics

>nu-DKC
i fucking hate retro

>He wants "hit you in the ass and still don't flinch" Mewtwo from 4 and PM

Yeah, how fucking dare they make better DK games than Rare? Who the fuck do they think they are defiling my nostalgia?

I didn't give a fuck about X getting into Marvel and I'm certainly never going to play Fighterz.

But it was good

>K. Rool is actually good
If only you knew how bad things really are.

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>K. Rool is actually good
He is always 100% a free win for me. Rool is fucking trash. T. Jiggs main

7 0 M I N U T E S

Is snake a bad match-up for jiggs? I see him exclusively whenever I que as her

I hope wario gets nerfed

he's gonna be good, just you wait

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What kind of swimsuits would Peach, Zelda, Samus, Rosalina, Palutena, Lucina, Wii Fit Trainer, and Robin wear to the beach?

Tropical Freeze fucking rules. It beats every DKC out there but 2, and that's soley on music and level concepts. Retro's gameplay is miles better than Rare's.

Kinda? It can be bad for both parties considering 95% of the time you need to outcamp him. Fucking hate that match up

What about Bayo?

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Legitimately dont care, just give me the stage builder.

This. I can't make stages for shit.

>lets me steal miis as well
I cant wait

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>Tails is the gunner again.
Why can't I use the brawler? The gunner is not fun to play.

Kirby main here, can confirm I thought my penis was small until I measured it one day.

Z-Drop Slash Claw is an unexpected gift

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Peach, Rosa and Lucina would wear a modest 1 peace of their defining colors.
Samus, Zelda, and Robin would wear regular bikinis.
Wii Fit, Daisy and Palutena would all wear extremely risque thin 2 peaces that barely cover their nipples.

How can Kirby be saved?

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What should they do? He has combos but they need frame perfect timing or they don't work at all.

port in smash 64 kirbs

More air speed and inhale working like how Dedede's does

Make him Smash 64 Kirby.

He's already much better than he was in Smash 4, so I don't know why you're hoping for that. Unless you mean staying mostly consistent by dodging rebalances.

Bring back brawl aerial hammer

>be on of the worst moves in melee
>replace it with a pretty damn good version in brawl
>for no reason kirby just has to have a jet hammer rip off as his side b and the aerial version is back to being shit

it's not fair

>Everything is shit

We want to save him. Not make him unbeatable top tier

I literally went to bed 2 hours ago to sleep for 10 hours and I'm already up.
Slept like for 3 hours, so this is the power of Joker...

>replace his shit hammer
>replace his shit throws
>make inhale not shit
>make stone not shit
Basically, he can't be saved.

It definitely sucks that Kirby's inhale is objectively inferior to King Dedede's. It's supposed to be his definining, iconic ability. It would be like if they put Shadow in, and made his spin dash objectively better than Sonics.

cmooon

Go back to sleep user. You have a 3 hour wait

Make uair hitbox better, give better initial dash, fix sideb, make utilt bigger, make nair bigger underneath. He really just needs better options to get in because they took away his best one in grab.

It's the only way.

>+20% on every throw
>Hammer comes out Frame 1
>Inhale can spit like Dedede
>Stone has an AOE explosion around it that does damage and pushes when it's removed
Things can be done, but I don't think anything will.

It releases at 9 right? Not maintenance starts at 9 and doesn't end for like 2 hours.

>implying you can't read someone with a surprise midair hammer on your way back to the stage once every few thousand games
>implying you can't up-throw someone to death beneath the highest platform on battlefield if they're over 120%
>implying you can't kill incineroar by sucking him up and jumping off the stage
>implying you can't ping people off the bottom of the stage DK cargo throw style with stone becuse it sends opponents upwards due to sakurais misunderstood genius

h-he's not shit!

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It releases in 50 minutes

>Frame 1 bullshit
Fuck off with that.

Gunner is the most fun to me. Sword relies too much on gimmicks and brawler is just straight up bad.

>Hopes
A throw that does something useful. It doesn't need to combo into Rest, just one that is useful
>Dreams
Rest BKB increased heavily. Faster Up Air
>Fears
Bair nerfed
>Realistically
Nothing happens to her

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>Stone has an AOE explosion around it that does damage and pushes when it's removed

I was about to protest this, but Stone takes so fucking long to actually start falling, let alone land, that it deserves a bigger damage output than Bowser Bomb.

They were all bullshit except for the inhale one, that was my point. Nothing is irredeemable.

This game is peak kukoldry. The "fans" talk more about the characters than the features, the same way women approach things (unavoidable cognitive bias towards people rather than objects).

>Bowser
Good shit.

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We are having an Arena thread, right?
I don't wanna bust out the Quickplay my bros.

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>tfw Brawler is your favorite

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anons I don't think you realize how broken 64 kirby is.
youtube.com/watch?v=GqLcHYgDbio
from about 2:30 or so on

What will you do first with Joker?

>practice room
>straight online (quickplay or arena?)
>classic mode
>got a friend to play with

For me, it's Classic Mode.

>people talk about the characters in a crossover game

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>For some reason brings up women.
Uh, are you what they call an, dare I say... Incel?

It's pretty expected, I hope the nerfs aren't too bad though, don't wanna go back to the bottom of the barrel again.

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Practice room to feel his moves then Quickplay to cheese wins before he's figured out. Arena afterward.

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kys

>big update that adds new character
>wtf why do people care about the new character

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As a wario main, I hope they don't touch him. Schmovin' around on platforms and waft combos are too fun.

Practice, Classic then Arena.

Probably a pipe dream but the ability to save teams in Squad Strike. Online Squad Strike would be cool but that will probably never happen.

Any improvements and/or modes online are like next to impossible to get.

There's a reason Squad Strike isn't an online mode. The next time you play Squad Strike, quickly kill all your characters instead of playing properly and see what happens.

30 minutes.

Wolf one is innacurate. He's just my boyfriend and I want him nerfed. That way tryhards stop using him.

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What happens? You lose?

HOW LONG TO THE UPDATE LADS??

IM GETTING CRAZY HERE

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he comes out in an hour.

>inb4 servers explode

sauce

4 0

38 minutes senpai

Some hockey players came up to the produce stand the other day

Just look up their names on e621 my nigga. Should be fairly recent. Add a "duo" tag too, that way you can find it easier.

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i am fully aware :^)

Some men just want to watch the world burn I suppose..

found it, thanks :3

When the h*ck do patch notes come out?

I knew you could do it!

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30 minutes

WE

What do you mean?

WANT

Guys, update comes at xx:50, not xx:00. So just 14 minutes from now.

ARE

LIVE

I'm overall pretty damn happy with Ridley's moveset, I'm just disappointed that he's not better. I'm glad he's not low-tier as well.

The only thing I'd change is making his dair into the classic pogo spike or maybe when you use down-B in the air, you can angle it and spike when you sweetspot it too. And maybe give him another jump.

IN

A

YELLOW

>Main DDD and Villager
It hurts how accurate this is

SUBMARINE

WE

WUZ

MAINTENANCE IN 6 MINUTES.

i'm actually playing persona 5 on emulator until the update comes out. I'm currently on July,22 with Futaba's story

GAY

BOWSER

I've been maining yoshi since 4 and I cannot emphasize how frustrating it is to get called a faggot every time I talk about him. I do understand that he is annoying though, I just like his play style

based

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Why is Sonic "Faggot"?

I WANT TO DOWNLOAD STAGES NOW

worst smash husbando

Please don’t hurt my boy sakurai

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COME ON REGGIE, GIVE US THE PATCH NOTES ALREADY

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You take that back.

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Shut up faggot.

agree, wolf is the best

Is it because everybody gets bodied by him?

WHEN IS IT OUT, BOWSER?

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Nah, he plays like a faggot

Gimme them new taunts. Literally anything would be fine.

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ONE MINUTE LADS

he is tho

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I thought it was 8:50. Where is it?

>The server is currently undergoing maintenance

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K ROOL IS GETTING BUFFED YOU FAGGOTS!!!!!!!!!!!! FUCK OFF PICHU FUCK OFF GANONDORF youtube.com/watch?v=oPG84zY-HOY

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They're getting ready for the shitstorm

PICHU NERFS OR RIOT!!!!!!

Taking this moment to ask if any of you guys actually play the spirit board challenges? Every time i see a news bulletin on the menu its about the board and I simply don't care about it.

IT'S SHOW TIME

Nobody get's bodied by sonic

>dude just command grab his command grab lmao

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Same

>spirits
It’s a failed game mode and literally no one plays it. Worst smash content we’ve received by far

None of you guys play this game competetively so i dont know why these balance changes affect you in the slightest.

That's funny. I literally destroy with him. 1v1

Yeah, he fucks people up easily like a faggot would.

IT'S DOWNLOADING

>implying
One day I'll stop getting 2nd at my locals though

WUZ

I know someone who plays casually at his local gathering with Kirby, even the tourneyfags. Competitive fags don't even know how the game works desu.

God I love him.

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cool story faggot

>7 mintues to download

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Spirits are worthless and the entire spirit section is a waste of space once you have them all.

HERE WE GO

Its 9 and theres still no joker. What the fuck?

IT STOPPED DOWNLOADING

Utilt should tap and suck enemies in, or at least stun them so the second hit slams. it should also hit on the edge, but I think they baked that out cuz it's so easy to tilt in this game.

HONESTLY, I have no issues with falcon in this game, except maybe Uair knockback trajectory, and knee hit window, but that's always been tight. I wish his moves didn't whiff if you do them late in a fall either :(

my biggest complaints are with the game, not Falcon. Falcon is great in this game.

Also Up B should be reversible upon landing it. So if you get rock crocked you have the option to jump backwards towards the map.

>You are currently using the latest version of this software

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because it inflates my ego you raging dumbfaggot

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>server communication error has occured
Shit

>releases tomorrow
>it's literally the day after tomorrow in 80% of the world and he's still not out

>45 minutes remaining

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>Communicating with the server
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

You're too slow!

its not asking for a update, how do i update it ?

>Game gives me the notification about 3.0
>But I am still in version 2.0.2
What is going on?

Say please.

Wait how do I get Joker, booted up and it says 3.0 is live joker and the mii fighters are "available for purchase" but he's not on my roster and I can't seem to fin d a way to redeem him even though the fighters pass is marked as purchased.
Am I missing a step?

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SOMEONE MAKE NEW THREAD TO DISCUSS BUFFS AND NERFS

It still depresses me how there are no bio's in the spirit collection. A lack of 3D trophies is one thing but dammit, reading those were my favorite part.

>8 minutes to download.

HERE WE FUCKING GOOOOOOO

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delete system 32 to make room for new update!

PATCH NOTES WHERE?

+ button in main menu on it, update via internet

>servers crashed
FUCKING HELL

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man these servers are shitting themselves.

YES

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Me too!

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alright faggots i already got it

post the patch notes you coward

>everyone tried to simultaneously download the update that it fucked up the server

press star go to software update and select over the internet

Press + on the game's icon and go to Software Update on the menu.

en-americas-support.nintendo.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/45075

>server is so shit the update keeps erroring on me

Fuck Nintendo sometimes

I already have a copy of every single spirit, so I don't even really look at the board anymore. Spirit battles were neat novelty, but very underwhelming.

>should we prepare the server
>it's just smash lol what could happen

LET'S GOOOOOOO!

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At least post the link to the patch notes

nice bait

thanks. Only thing I cared about

>less than a minute
ALMOST

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>server communication error has occurred
IT'S
TWENTY
FUCKING
NINETEEN

Shulk main here, couldn't give two shits about rex getting in, it would be redundant anyway

>billion dollar company
>these fucking servers
im glad i emulate

FUCKING THANK YOU

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*download stopped*
aww fuck

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>duck hunt nerfed AGAIN

>1 hour and 44 minutes remaining
MY INTERNET IS GOOD WHAT IS HAPPENING ?

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These look like nerfs.

Could someone gift me a $10 card so I can play as Joker? Financially, I am remodeling a house and can’t really spare it.

>Villager got nerfed

kys sakurai

CORRIN BUFFS

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>the high damage range
What a shit translation, what's this even mean?

Sent ;)

>Plasma Breath
>reduced power against shields

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REDUCED POWER AGAINST SHIELDS

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>Little Mac untouched
are they fucking serious

>All these Diddy Buffs
I have a bad feeling about this

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we're safe wariobros

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6 minutes for me :^)

they said the fighters pass is on sale. is it discounted?

So this was unintended?

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>Pac-Man got fuck all

lmao brb gonna kill myself

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THE SERVERS
PLEASE SAKURAI I BEG YOU

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Bowser got a...extremely minor buff that does nothing!

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>megaman got even more gutted

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I only played it to 100% the listing. Ill come back to the board just to get the persona spirits/other pass content

god forbid the echoes have interesting qualities

Ugh. Forgot to post some info.

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>No incineroar buffs
Welp. There's always next time.

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>Jr. got a mild adjustment
Christ

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en-americas-support.nintendo.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/45075

CORRIN BUFFED
DIDDY BUFFED
KIRBY BUFFED
K. ROOL BUFFED
ROSALINA BUFFED

DAISY NERFED
SNAKE NERFED
VILLAGER NERFED
MEGA MAN NERFED
MII GUNNER NERFED
MII SWORDFIGHTER NERFED

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>Ken gets nerfed
WOOOOWWWWW
THANKS SAKURAI, ITS NOT LIKE HE'S A FUNDAMENTALLY SHITTY CHARACTER THAN NEEDED NERFS

The only changes for Isabelle and they're minor nerfs?
But
why

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>R.O.B's only nerf was less shield damage with both projectiles
fuckin phew, was afraid they'd nerf his side-b or nair or something dumb

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It's not nerfs atleast... So I'm happy!

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>Dedede got nerfed again

Are they fucking joking?

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>all these shield damage reductions

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There's currently a thread about it. Go find it instead of wanting to be spoonfed you fucking faggot.

fuck

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ALL MARTHS BUFFED

check your dms ;-)

>Ignored again

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>Nerfed bayo
What

>D. Samus nerf
Just

>D3 nerf
Fuck

>Lucario nerf
my

>Marth buff
shit

>Ridly nerf
up

>Samus nerf
senpi

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>literally every projectile got shit on

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DEDEDE ON SUICIDE WATCH

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can't download shit, boss

Palu more or less survived another patch, good.

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>gotta buff him in time for the movie

Will suck dick for server connection

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>damage reduced against shields x100
Why?

>those snake nerfs
WHY

untouched or nerf were the only choices.

>all these illiterate tards who see shit like "shield damage nerfed" or other slight ajustments a think their main is suddenly garbage-tier

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Don't be retarded use context clues user.
It clearly means they extended the sweet spot size

>SHEIK BUFFED
>MEWTWO BUFFED
BASED

Migrate

WHY ARE THEY BUFFING SHIELD

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>SIMON GETS MORE ATTACK RANGE
WHAT THE FUCK WERE THEY THINKING

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>REDUCED POWER AGAINST SHIELDS x 100
yeah because we where seeing a lot of shield pressure, breaks and pokes before
oh wait

>luigis fireballs nerfed
what the actual fuck? theyre practically useless. why nerf them?

>Robin got nerfed
I fucking knew they would pull this shit.

Because it was fucking shit.

I am trying to learn how to use Discord.

they buffed snake

>Inkling comes out with insignificant nerf
>Bowser gets a minor buff
>Wii fit trainer gets minor buffs and nerfs
Suck it OP I came out just fine

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Overall: shields buffed
why?

>The vast majority of them are on projectiles

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>Hey guys let's nerf Samus, she is obviously too good.

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so the patch was a projectile balance?

so is joker available now?

3 move nerfs for 1 buff.

Shit now I'm afraid of this going into brawl territory. Shields getting turned to pint size made games exciting.

>MFW K.Rool Buffs.

You nigs are about to eat scale dick for breakfest and I dont even Play K.Rool.

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in theory, patch is hard to download rn though

Autism.

If you are using neutral b against shields all the time you're a garbage Samus anyway

>Robin nerf
why tho

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luigi is just plain wrong.

Good fucking luck downloading him.

>3 patch changes to character
>2 are nerfs
>1 is a buff
Yeah man they sure did buff Snake that's definitely the take away from these patch notes.

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>tfw retards don't realize "Reduced power against shields" for projectiles is a direct nerf to the camping faggots they complain about in every Smash thread
Think about it. shitcunts like YL will probably have to actually approach you now.

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god, what a disappointment