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They'll probably remove the lyrics because the song contains the word "damn".
Did you even watch the video you retard? All Persona songs have lyrics intact. Including Rivers in the Desert and Reach Out to The Truth.
Chill, Joker literally has a pistol. Not a cartoony one, but a grade A realistic fucking pistol.
BABY__
i lost my shit
WHERE IS LIFE WILL CHANGE?!?!?
Reach Out To The Truth says "homo men" and that's fine
If different Persona characters showed up depending on the music I would never use any other stage again.
>Akihiko and Chie will never cheer you on in Smash
Where are the new p3/p4 arrangements?
>no burn my dread
ok now I’m angry
>other lesbians, can you lift me up
I didnt know sakurai was such a homophobe
P4's got a new mix of I'll Face Myself
and then there's a new mix for Aria of the Soul
>no INEVERFELTLIKE
Holy based
SO MISERABLE
I NEVER FELT LIKE
A CEMENTED LIGHT BULB.
Where are persona 1 and 2 stage and musics?
Blue > Yellow > Red
The blue stage looks so fucking good.
The Red looks good but I think it will get tiring on the eye
Right here
P1 & 2 arent part of the persona series anymore, they are SMT games
AAAAAAUUUUUURRRRRGGGHHHHH WHERE ARE MY GUNS AND COMBAT KNIFE SAKURAI I WAS PUT ON THE ROSTER IN A T-RATED GAME AND THIS ONE IS E10+ NONONONONONONONONOOOOOOOOO
they got alt colors on joker at least
>persona 1 and 2
Those exist?
kinda bummed we didnt get any dds or smt music but at least we got other persona music which is pretty cool
persona started at 3
I thought Persona started with 3
>why would you think that
Fallout started with 3 too
There is a persona 1 and 2 ?
right there, next to the Final Fantasy I to VI ones
Did someone rip the new beneath the mask remix yet?
How many times do we have to teach you this lesson old man?
It’s not cartoony in the slightest. Like Bayonetta’s oversized Hand and feet guns just
Gun.
>mfw I thought we'd be getting a door-kun echo fighter once BABYBABYBABYBABY started playing
There’s a shin megami tensei: Persona, but there’s no persona 1. Persona started with 3
>expecting DDS music to end up in Smash
IM NOT A PRINCESS
And now we know Kirby canonically keeps a strap on him at all times.
For real though, a red/black and a purple/black theme for based on the first two games would be awesome for this stage.
Castlavania ended up reaching pretty far with its tracks, if Persona had the same track allotment size its not too far out of the question for 1 or 2 SMT tracks
Tatsuya deserves to be happy
So much wasted potential
At least throw in Nocturne’s Town battle theme it sounds like something straight out of Persona and remix out the demonic yelling
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This isn't a Sony game we're talking about, user.
Nani?
Persona 4 is literally
Shin Megami Tensi: Persona 4
Sony is the place for censorship now.
Get with the times, gramps.
Only for the filthy gaijin
And Final Fantasy had 2 songs, Castlevania was a fluke.
how does he pull the trigger?
>fucking hate persona's music, especially BABY BABY BABY BABY
>Just know that everyone online is going to be setting their stages to this.
What are talking about, user?
I don't remember those games happening at all.
Atlus USA threw SMT on fucking everything whether it was Devil Summonor, Megami Ibunroku, whatever point is spinoffs don't carry smt name in Japan
Without hesitation.
Whats it like being a faggot?
cry harder
cry harder
SOUL DRIVE
I love Fuuka!
I'm surprised they managed to make a Mementos stage that actually looks okay, but I still would have preferred a palace.
Don't worry friendo, you can always go competitive IRL and only play on Smashville like always, cause it is definitely not gonna be used by those homos considering the design and hazards.
Shit user with shit taste
>Look up lyrics
Okay which one of you did this
good....
Not him but if the hazard free version removes the trains and moving ceiling then it'll definitely be considered.
someone who thought whole moment sounded like homo men
So what time this shit drop?
>Reach Out To The Truth
>Time To Make History
>I'll Face Myself
>a lot of anger in it
Doesn't a P3 song has either shit or fuck in the lyrics?
I remember it vaguely
Those are the actual lyrics and that makes the whole thing so much funnier.
????????
*not actually a real pistol
I have feeling they gonna bitch about the asymmetry ("Unfair" Starting positions) and slope.
Though i guess it depends on if they see fuckery with the slope, if it is allowed it will probably just be as counterpick.
Imagine being a Persona 1fag and Persona 2fag.
>personababies saying anyone else has shit taste
Loving every laugh!
Face it, it's going to be banned without even a testing period
With hazards off it basically becomes a more dynamic, varied Battlefield, and I like that.
YEAH FLOODED APPLE PIE
It’s going to be banned because third party copywrited music, there’s no real chance even if it was just battlefield
>Jokers series logo is from P5 instead of something to encompass the whole Persona series
Booooo
Nigga, Bayonetta's stage was banned for "distracting visuals"
The asymmetry and slope won't be what kills it. It's the size. You can't really tell with no characters on it, but it's actually fucking huge. Slow characters would be totally boxed out.
its a model gun :^)
I feel like most everybody simply uses "SMT" to mean "all of MegaTen except the first two games", so I shall stand by the belief that Persona is SMT.
>That beneath the mask remix
I can't wait to hear the new arrangement of I'll Face Myself
the reincarnation version was so good
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God I hope fucking not.
But it is a clear disadvantage being on the right side as your projectiles will be useless and hit the slope, forcing said player to attack which is good but I dunno if a stage should have that kind of power in neutral.
Based Sakurai favoritism strikes again
P1: purple
P2: red
P3: blue
P4: yellow
P5: red again
Why atlus
if they use purple again we'll know why
Keep sayin’ it.
That's a big stage.
Legal for doubles but not for singles
>purple
Indigo
Potential issues:
Slope
Size
Right platform creating a small cave of life
Hazardless version not removing all the hazards
If size ends up being one of the reasons I'm gonna throw a fit. PS2 and Kalos League are pretty big fucking stages and yet they're still among the most popular.
Thankfully I think those are the extended lyrics--they're just going to the normal looping battle music in.
Nobody does that.
>Red again
What do you mean? Red has never been used before.
Here's hoping P6 uses Purple, that'd be neat for the first time.
Persona started at 3.
Pretty sure the platform on the right has a solid bottom so I doubt it’s viable unless it is removed with hazards off
Because P2 is best forgotten and should not be remembered.
I mean that as a joke cause of the plot in them.
There are like 3 versions/verses to Mass Destruction. One does drop the F bomb. Nobody ever remembers the full song and only uses the original.
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Shh, it means SMT still has a chance one day. Plus, the closest Persona has to a logo is pic related, and that didn't feature at all in P5.
>Behind the Mask
>Aria of the The Soul
>Ill face myself
>All getting remixes
I can't fucking wait
Simple truth is that tourneyfags aren't really interested in having more viable stages. As far as they are concerned, Battlefield, FD, Smashville and Town&City are all the stage variety the game needs. You shouldn't concern yourself with whether stages should be designed for tournament legality, because you'll end up banning every stage that's even slightly interesting.
P6 will be green. I'm betting 700yen
P1/P2 and P3-P5 are not part of the same series anymore. The current Persona team is completely different from the ones who made 1 and 2. It's better if you just think of P1 and 2 as Megaten spinoffs.
Incoming Minato echo fighter with an Invoker, rapier, and Harp-dude
Im not a stingy tourneyfag, if it's similar to battlefield at all me and my friends are going to fucking play it
>haha guys Persona started at 3 amirite???
I don't even like old Persona but god you guys are trite.
wait so joker gets a p3 stage instead of a p5 stage? what the fuck?
Get new material, Smashville hasn't been the de facto stage since 4.
I just want to know if you can get the alternate victory music outside of Memento, because if I can have the p4 victory theme every time I don't think I'll ever play another character
might as well be a new fighter, it would be weird to see p3 or 4 protagonist doing flips and other athletic things
The visuals of the stage change if P3 or P4 music is playing.
>green eco-terrorists
could be fun
False. It's still on the back of Persona cards.
So final fantasy start at 7?
Joker gets a P5 stage that is reskinned to look kind of like a P3 or P4 stage depending on what music is playing.
Green is also a color of creativity. Maybe something about high-art or some bullshit.
Stage change design based on what series the music is, P3 has the clock and Dark Hour motif, this is the P4 version, which invokes the TV World and EYEBLEEDING YELLOW PEP!
It seems like Joker only has one victory "pose" (unless which party members appear with him is what changes), in which case you might be able to choose with the d-pad as the game ends in lieu of selecting a pose.
No, the FF series goes 1, then 4-15.
Have sex
>if your FS would KO and end the game, it just ends the match right there with it in the background
Sakurai must really fucking love P5 to include such a detail
What bothers me is that
>P3 variant
> No tartarus in the background
>P4 variant
>No fog in the distance
Smhtbqhfambroski
It's a rib you oversensitive baby.
>p3 was death
>p4 was star
>p5 was magician
what is p6 going to be
I NEVER FELT LIKE
And this is the standard P5 version.
The strongest element of P5 is its UI, so it makes sense that a loving representation of it would go all out with those sorts of details. It's what Joker gets in exchange for having a moveset that isn't particularly referential to his game or abilities, such as totally ignoring the wild card ability.
Lover, all loli cast trying to solve town's mysteries.
They have the Dark Hour moon in the background for P3 at least. And P4 has a gay ass rainbow.
N-No, he hates Persona and loves Xenoblade!
DELETE THIS!!!
Wait, you can choose which victory pose happens?
He really stays true to the original source of the game. Which is amazing.
Kinda sucks people forced him to make tiny Ridley but at least people are hapoy, I guess?
holy shit thats ace
Sakurai makes some questionable decisions with his games, but you can't deny the man's autistic obsession with details.
I like how people pretend to know what Sakurai likes and dislikes based on Smash, when he probably plays more games than half of Yea Forums.
>implying I didn't know that
But just repeating the same shit over and over isn't funny; it's reddit.
Yeah, you didn't know?
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You can choose the displayed victory pose by pressing a button on the D-Pad as the match ends.
Each victory pose is assigned to a d-pad direction, like taunts. Hold a direction when the match ends and you can choose which pose you get.
>anything I don't like is Reddit
They did so much right with Joker but gave him such a crappy moveset.
I think Smash will defintley lose a lot of its soul when Sakurai inevitably move son. I don't think theres many directors that would have put this much into its characters. Pac Man wouldn't have his classic design. Simon would probably be the red haired version etc.
I mean we only know what he himself has said. He definitely enjoys Persona 5 and Xenoblade 2 at the very least.
Hermit
No. Repeating the same worn-out jokes because "haha we're all in on it" is.
It's quite nice actually, there's a lot to think about after the fact such as how/why the Nanjo group split off post Eternal Punishment and what the old Persona users are up to.
I've no doubt he has played every single game represented in Smash.
But yeah Smash decisions don't reflect his liking to me. Nintendo has a say in it that is why we have like 9 FE reps.
As a Ridley player and a big Metroid fan, it's not just P5. Smash devs have a lot of respect for giving the fans of specific subseries some good fanservice. Their take on Ridley is honestly better than even Metroids own takes on him sometimes, and that's not even a slight towards the series. They just fucking nailed him, right down to the new remix of his theme.
How so?
>Matt Mercer now voices two characters with blue hair in Smash
reminder that this shit is probably why joker took so long to come out
fucking music rights.
>tfw this song didn't make it
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Well shit, the more you know.
I actually like the idea of his moveset.
Just because he doesn't match your preferred play style doesn't mean his move set is bad.
Again, Ridley being big is something that no Metroid fan has ever actually cared about. It was solely a retarded excuse as to why he wouldn't ever be in Smash.
I just wish he had a tail pogo attack.
It'd be a bit of a stretch to make it a high-intensity action song without losing the original tone.
THINKIN THIS WOULD LAST FOREVER
>Sakurai inevitably move son.
Maybe his son is as autistic as him and really loves detail
Pokémon Stadium is the new hotness, fag.
>no P1/P2 music
>no SMT music
>no SMT references at all
My disappointment is immeasurable. Not that I care much since I never expected SMT to be represented in Smash, it's just a waste of a great opportunity
i mean this made it in
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Nah, Persona 5 fucked up by giving attention to Arsene only to dispose him
The Reincarnation version has fuck in it, I think. But it's not in the game.
When do we even see the cards in P5? The fusions and such are done with 3D models.
The rebellion gauge mechanic seems really shit, where to build it you either have to take hits or be at disadvantage, and then you only get Arsene for a short time. Arsene being the only persona and Eiga/Eigaon being the only spell is also pretty disappointing.
His moveset doesn't really reflect what Joker is like in P5 except on a really superficial level. In P5 he can change personas, summon them at will, can only use magic through a Persona (he can just use it on his own in Smash), and doesn't act in tandem with his persona (either he attacks or his persona does, but not both).
I get the strong feeling he'll be bottom tier too since I suspect that he'll be weak without Arsene, but getting Arsene out and using him in a competitive match will be excruciatingly difficult.
Does SMT appear in Persona?
The right platform has a ceiling, unless it's also a stage hazard.
If is a hazard, and is removed, then the stage will be lopsided.
>Joker has a realistic gun.
LEON FUCKING MY SISTER CONFIRMED
>no Spirited Girl
>no Muladhara
>Leon with Chris alt
kino
Is there a specific time this is dropping?
the baby
That's the only thing I find odd, yeah. Seems like a logical thing to have made his down air that.
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KA
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WHY DON'T BAYONETTA'S SONGS GET TO KEEP THEIR LYRICS AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>Another counter newcomer
Would it hurt them to make creative down b's again? Joker has such a big skillset to choose from too.
This
Imagine trying to deal with an Olimar or Richter when you can't jump over his attacks and he can punish your dash attack on-hit by teching the ceiling
P3DAN did it pretty well.
sakurai always gets lazy with swordies besides cloud
>Persona keeps lyrics
>Bayonetta and MGS don't
why
>I get the strong feeling he'll be bottom tier too since I suspect that he'll be weak without Arsene
Well, the only other options are:
He's good without Arsene and he'll be completely busted once he does come out.
Arsene is useless, which is obviously false.
the only thing i wish was in the MGS ost was this. FUCK russians
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I can agree with this actually, as much as I love Bayonetta it's really hard to concentrate in that stage as an ADHD fuck.
Also I wish we got vocal themes for Bayonetta's stage. What the fuck Kamiya.
B-But he uses daggers not swords
Yes
I always felt that, if the series wasn't turn based, they could act in tandem with their personas. Or, operate them like stands. There's nothing in the lore that says they actually can't.
Smash only has 4 attack moves, obviously they can never fully represent how a fighter is in their actual games, especially in an RPG.
Licensing? Things were different back then?
Down-b being able to pogo when inputting the ryu / bayo alt in the air would be really cool
Atlus has only made three games ever
Persona 3, Persona 4, and Persona 5
He still has more special moves than most characters. What does it matter what his down b is?
>His moveset doesn't really reflect what Joker is like in P5 except on a really superficial level.
I'm gonna disagree here. I'd even say it represents him better than what you're thinking.
Wild Card isn't something unique to Joker, but Arsene is, as is the grappling hook. The gun (to a lesser extent, considering evokers) also applies here. Jokers moveset is designed around the elements that make him Joker, that make him a Phantom Thief. Not the elements that make him a Persona protagonist.
It's easy to say "Joker has Wild Card, therefore he should be able to switch like Pokemon Trainer" but Joker has a lot more defines who he is beyond the concepts necessitated by the gameplay designs of his series. If you asked most people how they would describe Joker, they would say "he's a phantom thief" and not "he can use any persona"
If it's focused on idolshit I'll kill myself, rise back from the grave, and then destroy Atlus HQ.
Well?
But what's the criteria for the game deciding what's enough to KO? Does it eventually just delete the character if they're damaged enough like Bayo's FS does, instead of merely doing knockback & damage? And if not, how would the game KNOW without actually playing it out with player input (DI, teching) included?
>He has a blade, therefore he's a swordie
I can't wait for half the people who pick him up to start bitching about his range.
#FE was the Persona idolshit game, even had them be called "Performas"
BABY STAY WITH ME
I wish we got some Metal Gear Rising music, that would've been a lot of cheesy fun. It Has To Be This Way would've been so much fun to fight to.
Calling to the night has lyrics.
this. should be noted that Sakurai himself values functional and stylish UIs. You can always see a glint in his eye when he's talking about it
HOW MANY HOURS UNTIL THIS SHIT RELEASES
Sure, but when Sakurai goes to such autistic lengths to get cosmetic details right you'd think he could at least do the same for the moveset. I was expecting something like gun and dagger for normals, Arsene for smash attacks, and a few of the more famous personas for specials like Jack Frost and Pixie. They didn't even necessarily have to give up the rebellion gauge mechanic for that, they could just have it buff him in a different way. Having yet another counter-based character is pretty frustrating too, it really feels like Sakurai is out of ideas in the special moves department.
WHERE'S THE FUCKIN UDPATE NINTENDO
At least they made Arsene self aware compared to other first personas. What with his "We will meet again" spiel and all that.
Seven hours and fifteen minutes
Supposedly 9:30 PM EST
I started smiling like a fucking retard when that song came on. Good shit.
The joke will stop once it stops being true
Performa was a group of collectables. The mirages are what you're thinking of.
Why would his gun not be a special attack?
There are 71 characters with unique movesets. There has to be a point where characters can't be entirely uncomparable.
Also stop calling out counters specifically, it's dumb. You could literally do that with anything. Incineroars Darkest Lariat is just Doc's Down B without the vertical momentum, then.
>had opportunity to make colors based off of teammates
>just make them Persona color themed
Lame.
Yeah remember in P5 when Joker used a grappling hook and built up gauge by taking damage and then using it to buff his attacks? Classic Joker.
Are you being facetious? Even disregarding Personas completely (which is retarded) his moveset still doesn't represent him as just "a phantom thief".
>Sega owns Atlus and, by extension, Persona
>Music gets to keep lyrics
>Sega owns Bayonetta but not Platinum Games
>Music does not get to keep lyrics
The inner workings of music copyright are a mystery to me.
>tfw no LIVE THIS BODY MANLY
whens the update out? they said today but do we have a timeframe?
OOOH YEAH DUDUDUDU DUDUDUDU BABY BABY
NO BACKSIDE OF THE TV. NNNNNOOOOOOOO
The game knows if a kill is guaranteed even with perfect di. Though, i'm assuming the move instant kills like Zeldas if they are at a high enough percent
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I'd imagine it is like with Symphogear, the musicians involved see it as a advertisement opportunity for their lives and albums instead of something and were easier to work with as a result. Persona does a TON of liveshows from what i remember.
Most songs are longer then what is in the games (Show in Symphogears case), so you basically just get a teaser from them.
Basically "Paid in exposure" done right.
There's two akechi ones though
It didn't have to be? Could have saved the special slot for something more interesting? He could still keep his gun for some of his normals.
>fuck russians
it's not like anyone was chomping at the bit to sue his ass, the theme change was strictly kojimbos fault.
It would have been perfect lobby music too
>Yeah remember in P5 when Joker used a grappling hook
yeah i do now
The fact that Nintendo made an image with the Jokers standing in this order confirms that the red skin was intended to reference P5. The purple skin is likely coincidental.
>Implying the other one is Akechi
That's 100% the reason I wanted it.
Lucina is dead
>Yeah remember in P5 when Joker used a grappling hook
Yes. He used them regularly. Not as a gameplay element in particular, but seeing him swinging around was common. Are you implying it wasn't? And don't tell me you think mechanics is everything about a character.
>and built up gauge by taking damage and then using it to buff his attacks? Classic Joker.
It's an abstraction to incorporate his Persona summoning, which was absolutely important to who he is.
You know what isn't important to who Joker is? Pixie or Jack Frost specifically. They're just random ass Personas he can have maybe if you get them. You know who IS important to Joker? Fucking Arsene.
>and then you only get Arsene for a short time
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Watch how slow the meter depletes at around 1/3 charge. Considering that he's both powerful and ungimpable with Arsene out, he isn't likely to die until it runs out, either.
>I get the strong feeling he'll be bottom tier too since I suspect that he'll be weak without Arsene, but getting Arsene out and using him in a competitive match will be excruciatingly difficult.
There's quite a few characters in Ultimate who rely on taking damage/getting counter reads to unleash their full power (Lucario, Incineroar, Little Mac), and their systems work just fine (Incineroar and Mac are bad due to other reasons, Revenge and KO Punch are not why they are bad)
The only way I can see Joker being bottom tier is if he's like Sheik 2.0 (light, low damage, low KO potential).
The big question is, can the alts change Arsene color ?
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Why does this song feel so sad? The tone is all upbeaty and cheery but somehow there is a tone of sadness.
You now realize that If was basically a school shooter scenario with demons.
Or just Japanese Carrie, same thing really.
>People are actually going to use this color
Local game designer and director for many years now, Masahiro Sakurai, pays more attention to other finite details of a character outside of what you see in gameplay than some rando on the internet.
What a shocker.
Is this a Jojo reference?
i had faith in sakurai but i am disappointed with the only songs he chose. like seriously, what a fucking wasted opportunity.
SO METALEVEL
I had 50 hours in Persona 5, and my save date was deleted because my PS4 data was corrupted. It's been like two years and I'll only consider replaying it if there was a remaster for the Switch. Do you guys think there will be??
Thanks to that I'm hoping for the possibility of full smt love in the future in smash if we are lucky and that could further strenghts the fact that persona isn't SMT
>Move based on a menu animation
I'm impressed
Read the lyrics
I wonder why user
It's looking like it. Probably not a remaster, more of a port.
The royal will probably be ps4 exclusive
Maybe on the PS4 but yes the remaster is coming
Sakurai really liked the menus in P5 afterall.
As a matter of fact it probably was inspired by Jojo back in the 90s
Magic *snort* *snort*
P6 is purple confirmed
Persona 2 had nazis and secrets involving an ancient civilization
Persona 3 had the MC shooting himself in the head and a dog Persona user
Persona 4 had a bunch of highschool students searching for a killer in a small town
Persona 5 had a bunch of highschool kids committing crimes for the greater good
Persona 6 will star a female protagonist
His World from Sonic 06 is only instrumental because it has the lyrics "kicking ass" in it. They DO censor shit in smash
I'm with you. No way I'm paying extra for an uninspired character with generic moves borrowed from other ones.
I'm convinced modern Smash devs wouldn't be able to give Ness and Falcon unique movesets if those characters were added today.
When's update?
Because Bayo songs are remixes of real pop songs with much more copyright fuckery to deal with.
Sparda
Dante
Vergil
Yellow Dante
I'm not so sure...
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Mysterious Destiny or Tomorrow is Mine don't have their lyrics either, and they're original to Bayo unlike Fly Me to the Moon and Moon River
Incineroar says "damn" when you fail his side b
But I dont understand nip and I still feel sad
How about you read the replies dumbass. The grappling hook is in p5. And the characters introduced in ultimate got moves referenced to their original games. And falcon has no moves because he's a driver
This is a good thing.
>the vague blood-like substance coming from the enemy silhouettes in his all-out attack was changed to sparkles
bros... he's out.
It lasts about 5 seconds in that clip with roughly 25-30% of the bar. Even being generous Arsene isn't likely to last longer than 20 seconds, and if having him out actually makes Joker dangerous then the obvious strategy is to simply evade Joker until Arsene is gone.
The grappling hook is fine thematically but it's a joke to say that it's a core element of the character because of some menu silhouettes.
>It's an abstraction to incorporate his Persona summoning, which was absolutely important to who he is.
And yet it's restricted in a way that isn't related to P5 at all. Imagine if other characters had their defining abilities restricted by some arbitrary gimmick that doesn't have anything to do with their games. Imagine if Kirby couldn't suck until he filled up the "suck gauge". Imagine if Samus needed to counter damage to fire missiles. Restrictions like that are fine if it makes sense for the depiction of character, like Inkling's ink, or Robin's tomes, or Cloud's limit. The rebellion gauge is just a gimmick for the sake of a gimmick. If they had done it as an SP gauge where you can summon Arsene at will but can only use him a few times before the gauge runs out and you have to wait for it to regen, I'd be fine with it.
>The rebellion gauge mechanic seems really shit, where to build it you either have to take hits or be at disadvantage, and then you only get Arsene for a short time.
I'm honestly a bit relieved by this because his grappling hook seems like it could have some cool applications but it gets replaced when Arsene comes out.
Only the main themes of the games. Both Bayonetta games have lyrical battle themes that are totally original to them.
if this happens they truly are referencing Jojo
I can only imagine the combo potential with this
>launching somebody just to pull them in right after and launch them again
If it doesn't have horrendous end lag then it'd be so fun to fuck around with
Based Wada will break free from Jojo theming
Maybe you're just emotionally numb if you can't see past the instrumentation to notice the actual tone of the song. Also:
>lyrics include "nobody loves me" in English
Don't rule our boy out just yet.
Still unlikely, but just because you expect the worst doesn't mean you can't hope for the best.
How did I never realize this
Don't forget that all the bosses in Persona 3 referenced Tarot symbols.
Christ, emo twinks crossing dressing does wonders to my dick
He said he loves the p5 UI and you can see some inspiration in the UI for ultimate so it makes sense he will be autistic about this stuff
>Kirby says "burn jews" in his up B
What did Sakurai mean by this?
And you win by obtaining the power of The World at the least minute.
>no School Days
fuck this gay earth
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Cry harder
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THATS NOTHING
GOD
DAMN
That stage is fucking annoying to play on though. Everything just melts into the background and it's hard to see what's going on
>he hates Persona
We've known Sakurai likes Persona 5 for a long time. The Persona 5 designer even mentioned that Sakurai was a fan.
You mean this version?
youtube.com
IT'S NOW OR IT'S NEVER
I'm not sure why that's a thing, but I like it
probably because Sakurai changed his mind about songs with lyrics between Smash 4 and Ultimate
>Cant play Joker until basically the 18th
Great
it doesn't help that most of the phantom thieves have black color schemes, besides two of the girls and Akechi
>Yellow Dante
that's a reference to Akechi
Brainlet
Did we really need another FD? Also right ledge is objectively better to be on than left
Are you fucking blind? Akechi’s coat isn’t white. It’s a greyish olive and it has no brown in it whatsoever. AND if it even was him, it would have the same brown hair as the real Akechi skin.
Akechi doesn't have any brown on his design barring his hair, it can't be him
So will Joker's victory animation always be the running or is that just for Mementos?
Not even close to the same color palette. I'm not saying my Maya theory is concrete but it fits better than yours.
I like the original better, but I wouldn't have minded this.
maybe it's based off this? not sure what's up with the brown
Really like this remix. The back and forth rhythm really works with Yosuke's hip hop dance moves.
Why the fuck didn't they include any of the Dancing remixes?
youtube.com
That's a real solid remix
persona fans !!!!!!!
can someone tell me what song is it?
This shit was already cleared up.
No
youtu.be
This?
there's no brown on him at all
>white with black
>beige with brown
Found the brainlet.
Fuck you're right. What the fuck is this white outfit referencing, goddammit.
Except in your picture he's still wearing the pants he always wears. In the alt colour his pants are changed to a brownish red.
The persona 4 battle win screen music.
yes thank you i love you you you
Do we know all 4?
nope, see
Nowhere becuse of Hackshido's inferiority complex
Ompa
who made this shit?
I'm guessing Kirby will get a more stylized gun, no way Sakurai's gonna let his baby carry around a realistic gun
It's not white. It's "cream" or some shit.
>Did you know you can choose the victory sequence by holding down, left, up or right when "GAME! appears?
Wait, what?
Lompa
>joker comes out on zero's birthday
Konami is an IP whore, they'll let you use whatever if you have enough cash
>one (1) Persona
>is just Cloud + Bayonetta
Umpa
As a note, you can see a keychain loop at the bottom of the gun, because it is a toy.
>they didn't include music from Persona Q
Why?
youtube.com
youtube.com
so like 50 bucks?
JUSTICE FOR THE MAN WITH NO LIFE
It's not a new thing
So we might finally get an instrumental version. Win/Win.
>There’s a shin megami tensei: Persona
Only in the west.
>it's not white
This. I think is the closest fit, and as a P2 skin it would mean that every Persona game is represented.
still looks and acts like a real gun, and rating boards will treat it as a gun
but CERO is more concerned with panties than guns and the ESRB allows guns in E10+ so I'm not sure why people are freaking out
Not even close, 700 yen is about 6 dollars US.
can't wait to btfo p5tards and p4losers and hear this as the victory theme youtube.com
>implying Atlus would let them
>Protag's character portrait loses the mask when Arsene comes out
>flashes back on when he's called back
It's the little things that make my dick rock solid
Giving way too much credit to nintendofags and personafags, it's going to be Reach Out to the Truth 24/7.
>implying online interactions are rated by the esrb
So would seeing my dick make yours rock solid?
>fucking hate persona's music
>Joker has a move based off the fucking menu ui
Sakurai's autism is impressive.
Stupid boomer, the real color scheme for P3 is pink
Have sex
DLC isn't online interactions, user.
>Femcfags still alive
Go back to the grave
>P1/2fag
>Posts p3fag
?
Well, what else would his up B be?
I just don’t get why he didn’t include multiple personas in his moveset. That’s literally his unique selling point. If you were asked to describe joker in a sentence and what makes him unique, you’d say
>He can use multiple personas, no one else can
The original colours for the PS1 games were
P1: indigo or purple
Innocent Sin: blue
Eternal Punishment: red
But this concept of signature colours didn't apply until the PSP rereleases so they're not reusing much of anything. They were lazy ports that tried to slap the P3/P4 aesthetic where it doesn't belong.
Based
>youtube.com
Was he right?
Why is she eating Ken's face?
>He can use multiple personas, no one else can
Except multiple previous protagonists in his own series, and his rival in the same game.
He did nothing wrong, even the first girl he killed was an accident
No, but he is a very good dancer.
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Why does Yea Forums like Justin Beiber now?
You know what I mean. It’s his gimmick. It’s like if they only gave kirby 1 copy ability or shulk only being able to use 1 art instead of the multiple
He said little things, not microscopic things.
>That's literally his unique selling point
>Door-kun
>FeMC
>Aigis
>Narukami
>Joker
>Akechi
>Velvet Room attendants
>Every Persona user from P1 and P2
I'd hardly call that Joker's defining trait.
Just playing PQ2. What the fuck is with this dicksucking of P5 cast? Why the fuck am in half of the second labyrinth and there still isn't P3 cast?
P3FeMC is cute though.
What if those branches to the city were not branches or veins or whatever, but instead sewage pipes. Explains the piss yellow stage
Which I don't not like
Because the P3/4 dicksucking was at PQ1
Do Persona spinoffs even allow for the protagonists to switch personas?
Based and 2009pilled
BEHOLD MY PERSONA
PQ does but everyone can, in P4arena only P4 mc and Aigis can (maybe Elizabeth)
Q does, and if you want to really split hairs Yu turns Izanagi into Izanagi-no-Okami for his instant kill in the fighting games.
Those are the actual lyrics to the second verse of the full version.
Don't get why they used the placeholder P3/P4 sprite for his cut-in instead of the one more consistent with the rest of the crew.
Yu, Aigis, and Elizabeth all stick to one in Arena. Only Margaret uses multiple in that game.
Have incel
No one was prefered in PQ1. You could have chosen either side as your main. Here, you are forced to play with P5 cast majority of the game.
Well before the trailer everyone thought it'd be the Arsene up b
You mean this?
>Some fujos reeeee at the new render
>it gets removed
It's not fair
user has a reasonable concern. It's been years and we still have the bastardized melee version of dk rap that replaces hell with heck.
I think he meant to say "moves on"
Yeah, it's very obviously a placeholder since he was one of the first designs finalised. The one I posted has a later creation date in the files also.
No, it replaces "hell of a Kong" with "one good Kong"
Also the DK Rap is only good ironically and the shitty Melee version is better battle music
I guess it isn't so surprising that Joker only uses his main persona then, since that's what Arena does.
Yeah but it adds to him being fake. It looks familiar and heroic.
Yes, but there was no P5 in that one. Hence, his point was, it's P5's turn to get its dick sucked.
Still, imagine how cool it would have been if each direction had a different Persona. We could have had some proper SMT staples appearing.
>Still, imagine how cool it would have been if each direction had a different Persona.
The only thing I'm imagining is how fucked the frame rate would be.
Many would argue the original molgera battle theme is better for fights than the remix in ultimate, but we have what we have.
his mechanics are like field testing dante and doomguy
the emphasis on GUN was meta for several reasons, and I believe doomguy having gun based gameplay with mobility built in like joker is probably how he would play
meanwhile for dante joker basically has royal guard for some reason, and arsense is pretty much how devil trigger would work.
>"main" villain
>someone you are supposed to dislike
>is probably the most likeable P4 character
>gets based themes
>youtube.com
>youtube.com
How? What did Atlus mean by this?
Not very?
Also, you wrong correction
No, the frame rate would be fucked. Even worse than multiple Ice Climbers if Joker was able to summon more than one Persona.
DANCE BOY DANCE
youtu.be
The switch can take it i guess, if he just summons quickly uses the skill the recall the persona
I don't think you read his post correctly.
I love Yukari!~
No more than it is having one persona? They wouldn't need to have multiple rendered at once.
>someone you are supposed to dislike
I feel like that's an oversimplification. We're meant to recognize that he's evil, but also recognize that he reflects a lot of the traits repressed within our own shadows. Hence why we all love him.
Do you think he would summon them all at the same time?
Can’t wait to play as Xander Mobus fighting two hands also voiced by Xander Mobus while Xander Mobus announces my Victory
Ha
Second half meant for
What the fuck, I never knew this as well.
He's the best. Best party member P3. Best character in Arena, best boy all together.
So when they showed the song list, all the songs were color coded with red, yellow, and blue, which obviously dictates which version of Momentos you will be playing on, however, Aria of the Soul was white, so I'm wondering what happens when that songs plays? I'm hoping we get a 4th version of the stage themed to the Velvet Room.
Probably defaults to P5.
It’d be more like a certain persona would join joker for a move and then disappear. Like
>Up+B: Arsene appears and flies joker high up
>Side smash: Yoshitsune appears and slashes along with joker’s knife
>Down+B: Shiva appears and helps guard
Something like that woud’ve been cool
Most likely, but it's still going to be the first thing I check out tonight when the update drops.
"Cock and bull" is an old colloquialism that means "an unbelievable story". So, "I bleach out cock and bull of this globe" means "I'm removing disbelief from the world." Maybe. "It's already disgusting to dance with your palm" seems too unreal and throws the realness of the lyrics into question.
Do you know when it drops btw? I'm in GMT and wanna know if I'll get to play while I'm awake.
Based
I think it's 6 pm PST
twerking
If you're GMT then 1AM or 2AM
>1:50AM
Fuck me. Well, guess I'll get to play the moment I wake up.
The new Molgera is abolute trash, they fucked up the chord progression.
persona what now?
This. Why aren't more people complaining? It's the best song in the fucking game.
I thought it was "I breach the cock and bull", aka "busting through the bs"
They all take place in the amala network and multiverse tho
Because it's shit
and what's next
bloodborne stage?
WUGUGOT is in the game instead, which is the same song.
People say that DDS, Desu 1/2, Soul hackers and Raidou are SMT
im willing to bet its only for hp games and not % ones, so if the final smash does enough hp damage to kill em it triggers it
Note the SMT title at the top. The "but they don't call it SMT in Japan" argument doesn't work for these games.
Some final smashes instantly kill an opponent with 100% or more damage (like Bayo), so it can also work like them
There are multiple final smashes in the game already that just K.O. a fighter if he reaches a certain percentage.
This. Like Lil Mac's KO, at some % the game just decides "no matter what, you're going into the blastzone".
And for EST?
you're alright user
9 pm est
Glad I'm not the only one who hears that.
And if the opponent can't reach a blast zone (because of the stage layout) they just explode right where they are. Ultimate actually thinks of everything in this case
MOOON NIIGGER
>they couldn't have at least changed the background to change from Mementos to Tartarus
I mean really? why the fuck not it wouldn't have even been that complicated
I thought told y'all to sit down or get down
I'm about'a hit ground
When I'm in the box, my hits way out of this bounds
Green is not a creative color.
THOUGHT YOU'D ALWAYS BE MINEEEE!!
>You have the latest version of this software
BULLSHIT I DO. REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
that's what the IRL gun model, the TT33, actually has on the magazine baseplate.
Baka.
Atlas isnt a fucking jew with copyright. P4A was fine, so this stage would be fine as well.
nice
We used to on Yea Forums like seven years ago.
GOD DAMN. How do the Japs have suck fucking STYLE? I've literally never seen anything come out of the west with so much fucking style and soul. I love this shit and I haven't even gotten to play the game yet.
>I've literally never seen anything come out of the west with so much fucking style and soul
That's because even though it looks good it's terribly impractical. You'll hate it after 15 hours.
That looks more like he's holding unto a curtain
You just made those up.
Let's get real
What's your deal?
D'you still believe you
Will ever
Be able to take us down?
Three letters
On the wall
L-O-L, you have lost again
Don't take it too hard
these are real lyrics
True scholars know its 'all the homo medicare', pleb
Last stock for the opponent, over 100%. I guarrantee it instakills like Bowser, Bayo, Zelda, Ridley, etc.
Nope. There's his standard run, the Morgana-Car, and his AoA finisher. If he had a 4th I'd imagine it'd be a unique one with Arsene, or something.
>simple list of options
>terribly impractical
>terribly impractical
Really? I thought everything was laid out cleanly and the animations didn't take long at all.
i was surprised at this too
Now you make Lyrics in Japanese
The generic "good guy" cut-in fits with his character, though.
Persona songs are usually sung in english
Don't let anyone
Mislead you like you are
Nobody 'cause you mean so much to me
Let them laugh at you
Let's see at the end of the day
Whose gonna be smiling
>looked up these songs
>composed by Atsushi Kitajoh, Meguro's underling in all the Persona games
Hate to admit it, but he did a great job of capturing Meguro's style from the different games.
Goddammit I want P5A, fuck this tag bullshit.
A fair point, but I don't think it was intended. Guess I won't know until I meet Hashino in a bar or something.
When does he release?
2-3 hrs from now
>stage is based off the title screen instead of the actual area
What shit taste
>I'll Face Myself gets remixed
The first thing I wanted when I saw Persona was in Smash is finally here.
My satisfaction is immensurable and my day is made.
He's a pretty good producer on his own, it's just a shame that he mostly gets benched for just remixes. Not that they're bad or anything, but the PQ series alone shows he has a lot of potential that never goes recognized cause nobody gives a shit about the spinoffs
>not holding right after every game you win with Ridley
Yeah, Persona and Devil Survivor and some others are Megami Ibunroku but I think Devil Summoner kept the SMT label all throughout.
It does. DeSu isn’t called SMT in Japan.
2 hours 45 minutes from this post.
>Engrish doesn’t make sense
>As far as they are concerned, Pokémon Stadium, PS, Pokémon Stadium 2, and Pokémon&Stadium are all the stage variety the game needs.
Fixed
Truly, this one will be missed.
That's weird, because it's probably the most SMT of the spinoffs.
Atlus has literally never DMCA'ed a stream for the music in P4A. It'll be no different for Smash.
i'm gonna only use the vergil color scheme and theres nothing you can do about it
but we aren't talking about Devil May Cry
Based
Only two things I dislike are that his down-Bs are Cloud limit and then ANOTHER FUCKING COUNTER. Having down-B be Sukunda would've been more interesting. There aren't a whole lot of attacks in Smash that have debuff effects but Lord knows that there are too many counter specials and a vast majority of them are lame as hell.
It's just a retarded asymmetrical version of Battlefield, why add it?
His down special will charge even if he's not hit, right? If not, then he's gonna have trouble. Counters are kind of rare at top level play.
probably so it would get picked more often by players so they can showcase the sweet music
a shame joker's moveset is barely inspired by the game he's from though
Don't feel alone user. It's dogshit tier. Persona fans just have terrible taste in music
Nah, you've got bad taste if you want to arbitrarily limit yourself like that.
The right platform is dynamic from what it looks like
Goddamn it, that would've been perfect.