Was DGS worth the wait?
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I mean, I'll take any AA at this point.
DGS was pretty fucking comfy, even if the cases weren't that strong the setting, characters, and presentation carried it more than enough.
It's half a game though, you have to wait until the second game is out to say whether it was worth it.
Having a decent time of it. Currently playing through the early bits of Case 5 so I'm going to fuck off out of any AA threads until I'm done. Before I do, I'll praise the game for not backing down from showing the period racism. I mean, there's "Jap" being thrown about like no tomorrow, but I thought it was a bit weird when Barok and Naruhodou joined forces to convict the black guy instead of the white one.
Released as a standalone, judged as one. I'm sure it'll be retroactively more satisfying, but some cases here are not gonna get any less boring because of it.
>to convict the black guy instead of the white one
what
So, how they dealed with their massive fuck of? Namely localizing pheonix to America, which this game fucks over cuz his ancestor in japanese and the setting is too japanese to cover it?
It's not an official translation, but it's not like that would be hard.
Phoenix's ancestor is Japanese, and either they or their offspring went to America. Wow, big whoop.
Wait, I thought Capcom recently officially localize the game.
Don't be silly, Capcom doesn't give a fuck about this series in the west and would never localise a non mainline entry.
They didn't, the reason people talk about it is because a fan translation for the whole game just got released. Note that the whole ancestry thing isn't mentioned in either game at all so it's not even an issue.
The cases aren't very good and the overarching story is half-finished but the presentation is great.
Ok, is a patch for the first game or both?
First game and the demo of the second
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Iris is the worst part of the game! WORST PART OF THE GAME!
No bullying.
This game was bad. Apparently it was all sequel bait, but by itself it was a very unsatisfying game.
>saving pictures of worst girl
The whole stereoscopy bullshit was funny as hell
I like how that fucking machine in the picture exists just to have Barok NEVER LOOK SILLY
Alright folks it's time to shitpost your rankings
3 > I2 > 6 > 1 > 5 > 2 > 4 > I1
If she's than it's okay. I also haven't look for any DSG stuff in a while (This also applies to the actual AA games too)
honestly dude you already posted them, amazing taste. I might swap I2 and 3 though.
*cute
>Ranking games
>Not ranking cases
That's a penalty Mr. Wright. Try to put a little bit more thought into your decisions next time.
>Only the first game.
I sleep.
Cute, cute! Just like her theme!
>not ranking case-by-case over a period of seven years or so like a fucking idiot
amateur
but the machine exists to make him look extra silly
man I fucking loved the holmes reasoning gimmick
time to dust off this old thing
DGS2 not rated
Why?
Ugh, okay then Your Honor. I'll make a list like your picture when I get a chance.
WRONG WATSON DIED
>want to see all the hilariously stupid shit Ryuunosuke says if you pick the wrong thing
>don't want to spend time reloading saves since it takes a life to be wrong
It's a real conundrum, I tell you what.
Don't worry, I can confirm it was not worth it most of the time
have a template, friendo
Damn, you really didn't like DGS huh
Also 6-2 that low always surprises me, but there's more people who have that
I'm so glad more people are taking pictures of this game's bullshit
DGS would be worth the wait if they didn't pull a Junko Enoshima with Asougi coming back to life[\spoiler] in DGS 2
I did not like DGS. The Runaway Room was fun because it actually made you question some assumptions, the rest of the game felt really slow and like it was building up to a payoff that never came. Apparently it does in the sequel, so I might revise my opinion on it then.
6-2 I honestly don't remember why I put it in low, probably because it felt out of place in the game. The villain was pretty great, even if he was very obvious.
How exactly is that pulling a Junko?
This one really got me. I wonder how many people presented the frame without even checking it.
For the most part AA games tend to have obvious villains, the cases are pretty much always set up to be more of a howcatchum than a whodunit - I like Retinz a lot because he feels properly threatening. Remember that bit where he fucking sells the entirety of Wright & Co.?
I wish I'd known about the screenshot function of Luma3DS all this time, I don't have anything from the first few cases.
I wish there was more screenshot-worthy stuff, apart from Holmes scenes in general and a couple wrong deductions the rest was pretty whatever, especially the "he is poor so he wears expensive clothes/hat/cane" copypaste
Yeah, evil Robert Downey Jr was definitely the highlight of that case. Looking back on it, I remember being annoyed at Trucy's flanderization. I'd have to play it again to remember why I put it in low instead of mid.
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Either way this theme is great
The way it's handled. It's basically like Junko's return from seemingly nowhere in DR2.
It was such a cocky move to make the first game seem pointless just so they could do shitty reveals like this in the sequel. I have to imagine lots of people just gave up and never bought the sequel because the first game was so poor by itself.
Thoughs on this guy?
he really wasn't that good at his job or did anything that special but I still found him among the best prosecutors in the series somehow
Gonna go ahead and post the breakdowns of both games (it has English subtitles)
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He's Barnham mixed with Edgeworth. I'd say he's pretty good.
Fuck that, let's talk about this guy. If only the game didn't run out of budget at the end and his character arc was cut off abruptly, he could've been a top tier prosecutor.
DGS2 is the worst selling game in the Ace Attorney series in Japan anyway so yeah you're right with people never buying it because the first game was trash.
It does have some good twists though, too bad they're minor and overshadowed by a seemingly dead character coming back to life with no apparent reason.
He's good fun, a real opponent, and his whole demeanor of doing the most ridiculous shit and then apologizing for it is a fun schtick. I kind of like that you don't see him outside of court, it makes him more threatening.
I don't think he's up there with Edgeworth or Blackquill, but he's good.
This was really the only character I found memorable. But he is good.
I don't think people were waiting for it anymore so it was a nice surprise
I think every villain is fairly memorable
That said, some of the most memorable characters were the fucking jurors to me. The Russian spy showing up there with a mouse, the telegraphist lady, the forgetful surgeon - they were great.
>If only the game didn't run out of budget at the end
It did?
Just speculation. The ending as a whole felt very rushed.
>The ending as a whole felt very rushed.
How so?
Barnham abruptly disappearing from the story with no resolution, the Storyteller's "I have anime dad disease but we found a cure" that added nothing, the half-assed vs Layton bit
Natsume is pretty memorable
Plus the whole twist about who burned down the town that didn't seem to matter at all in the long run.
This is typical Layton fare though. Some giant asspull to explain everything.
Yeah, that's why I didn't mention all the huge plot holes. Those are normal. But all the strands going nowhere? Feels weird.
is there a translation project for 2?
Same people are translating 2, supposedly it's easier now they got the hardware down and made good progress already (during touching up 1)
What's the consensus on DGS2? Is it top 3 material or near? And are the cases a lot better?
It's apparently a significant improvement, and one of the best in the series.
It's a very similar game, except shit actually gets resolved from the first game. Fairly minor spoilers:
DGS1-4 is literally the first half of DGS2-2
I've got mixed thoughts about the whole thing, not quite as terrible as some people made out but it didn't blow my mind or anything either
Ryu & Susato are the best duo in the franchise so far though, think what you want about the rest of the game but this much can't be denied
I want the DGS 2 translation now. Just DGS1, while it was comfy, definitely isn't that great. It's not like AAI, where both games could be played independently, without having to play the sequel/prequel.
you'll realise it in DGS 2. She's the reason the ending is garbage
Could you tell me now? I don't care about spoilers.
>Wagahai looking at the ribbon on the katana
cute!
I don't know what user means, she was hated for supposedly a r64 Watson...then turns to be his daughter...then turns to NOT be her daughter at all.
>she SOMEHOW gets even worse
incredible
I mean, I only played the first game but she's just kinda weirdly out of place and annoying
also it bothered me that Ryuu never brought up that Watson is dead
DGS2 spoilers: So basically, the mastermind of DGS is Hart Vortex and he, like Quercus Alba, has some kind of immunity. In the last case of DGS2, a hologram of Iris and Sherlock Holmes suddenly appears in the courtroom (mind you, the game plays in the 1900s) and they basically say "lol the queen says your immunity is gone" and this is when Vortex has his breakdown.
Do you are mad holmes and iris invented holographics.
why does everyone hate I1 so much? Don't get me wrong, I also thought the third case was garbage, but overall, it really was a great game. I liked the reminiscence and final case a lot (albeit the final case was a bit long)
It's more like that I am mad about how lazily written this ending and her character is. Like that user previously stated, she really feels out of place.
Any android apk?
>for this botch assed translation
Hell no it wasn't. Translating KUSOOOOOOOOO! (t/n. note: shiiiiiiit/daaaaaaamn/fuuuuuuuuuuudge/etc.) to THIS?
Translator team is a fucking joke.
that looks very real
>didn't change the drawing on his fan to an American drawing
lazy fuckers
post the android apk please I'm dying here
swap 3 and i2 and you got patrician taste there
i guess nobody hates, it's just not as good as all the other game since all the cases except 5 are filler-tier
This made me remember a fan translated visual novel I played that had like 20 Monica Lewinsky jokes
I2 > 6 > 1 > 5 > 3 > I1 > 2 > 4
Reminder T&T has a Harlem Shake joke that was in there way before the actual Harlem Shake meme, but after that happened it seemed like an awful reference
>T&T has a Harlem Shake
What the fuck? I thought that was some shit made for the new versions
You will never experience love like this
eh, i might swap 2 and 4 after all.
2 is basically only held by the last case since the rest are filler and shit. 4 has 1 and 4 that are really good
have sex, Verin
Why are you posting my wife user? Please leave that to me.
Quality is better than quantity for me because 2-4 is fucking amazing, just for that it's my second favorite game in the franchise
Harlem Shake was already a dance before the meme shit, they just happened to hit on this
>exist only to not make the case three minutes
forgot pic
it's funny because the first time i play t&t it was on the year when the meme blew up
not bad
and another tier list because my opinions matter