Dumbasses don't even know shit about DQ, and just parroting whatever their favorite tranny insider of the day is saying.
Also, "Brave" isn't DQ. It's Crono from Chrono Trigger. Mii Swordfighter was chosen as the base for the character because of the different Special Attacks that can be chosen. Which is what Crono's speciality is. Though he'll probably be named "Chrono" for the English version too, to finally undo the mistake/limitation from decades ago.
Also "Brave" is just a translation of "Yusha" which can also be translation to "Hero". It's not something special for DQ.
Of course niggerfaggots here are too afraid to admit they're wrong.
Anthony Hughes
I've seen people pointing that Brave would also fit Lloyd Irving, and Swordfighter's moves being similar to some of Lloyd's skills and such.
Elijah Thompson
You absolutely cannot guess by just the name alone. Everyone with a brain knows this.
Samuel Johnson
DQ3's protag is a shitty pick. The best pick would have been DQ1's hero with an alternate skin of every other DQ protag, kinda like the koopalings
Jackson Baker
So you're saying that Pokémon Trainer, Villager, Inkling, etc. are literally their names? >Though he'll probably be named "Chrono" for the English version too, to finally undo the mistake/limitation from decades ago. Fat fucking chance, they had the perfect opportunity to do just that in the DS version when they expanded the character limit from the SNES version, and they didn't.
>Mii Swordfighter was chosen as the base for the character because of the different Special Attacks that can be chosen. ???
Isaiah Barnes
Lloyd isn’t that short. Though BTFO of Flash 2 again would be pretty neat. Tempest, sword rain, sonic thrust, and rising falcon just lying around is convenient as well.
Levi Jones
Did you forget Ryu and Roy was a thing?
Sebastian Roberts
It’s techincally not his name or tittle, just a very obvious reference, like Packu or Joker.
Caleb Sullivan
Quick Question, does anybody in the west even know who the hell was Eridrick before all this smash shit happened? I'm pretty sure Crono is more well known in the west right?
Does it matter? People are more familiar with Dragon Quest in general than CT.
Parker Mitchell
Imagine spending 14 hours every day on Yea Forums rosterfagging, just how much of a pathetic waste of air are you?
Nathan Ramirez
>Erdrincels still exist Cope harder.
Aaron Perry
Whatever name you give the hero in DQ3 was probably forgotten by the people of Alefgard by DQ1. If you played as the girl they even forget that. They remember the legend, not the man/woman.
Colton Rogers
For the franchise maybe, DQ is prolly more well known than CT because of new DQ games in the west. But for character? If you shown anybody pictures of Crono and Erdrick before any of the Smash rumors. There's prolly gonna be more people who knows Crono compared to the people who knows Erdrick in the west
>Shantae not cancer. You haven’t used Twiter often I see?
Kevin Baker
Imagine being autistic enough to take time to make this
Jacob Diaz
Wonder Red pls nintendo PLS
Cameron Bailey
Rosterfags were a mistake
Nolan Taylor
Isn't Sakurai adding more well known characters into the DLC roster, It's the reason why Piranha Plant made it in. Plus Sakurai wouldn't have added in Lucas if he knew that Mother 3 isn't coming out of Japan. I don't think Sakurai would only add in a character just to please the Japanese crowd. You're supposed to sell the fighters pass to everyone, not just Japan.
Easton Jones
>Isn't Sakurai adding more well known characters into the DLC roster, It's the reason why Piranha Plant made it in. No? Sakurai only picked Piranha Plant. Nintendo is picking the fighters pass characters. The only control Sakurai has is denying characters that he doesn't think he could turn into fighters.
Charles Phillips
DQXI sold 4.5 million wordwide, 1 million of those in the west. Persona 5 sold 2.4 million worldwide.
20 in the west and 80 in Japan is still more than 30 in the west and 30 in Japan, Dragon Quest is more well known worldwide than Persona.
Jacob Lopez
I don't think it's Nintendo picking out the fighters, it's more like Nintendo has a whole list of characters they picked and Sakurai picks 5 from the list that seems the most suitable for smash.
Luis Anderson
There isn't a Square Enix character you fucking mongs
Ok that's DQXI tho. Not DQIII, where Erdrick is the main character. Erdrick is in DQXI but only by name and never appeared fully I can see Luminary getting in because he's more well known everywhere while Erdrick is well known in only Japan.
Zachary Long
The theory that Sakurai is getting a list of characters to pick from Nintendo is bullshit. Sakurai has outright stated that Nintendo made the selection and he could only determine if they could be fighters. Nothing he has said implies the stupid list shit that Yea Forums keeps parroting.
Camden Morales
Why are you taking the most uncultured and low IQ bait i’ve seen this week?
Erdrick is a title bestowed to your character at the end of DQ3. You input your own name, but are known as the son / daughter of Ortega, who left on a quest to defeat Baramos.
The hero at the end of DQ1 is also dubbed Erdrick / Loto and since DQ2 acts as a direct sequel to the first game all the party members are descendants of the Erdrick / Loto from the first game.
Erdrick is pretty much confirmed at this point, if you’re doubting him for any other reason than shitposting i feel bad for you, the reality check will not be nice.
this they wanted cloud to be dlc again but nintbendo didn't want him to be because the everyone is here so obviously they are going to want a dlc slot because they couldn't get cloud into one
Jose Ross
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Dylan Diaz
>he thinks sakurai and nintendo would try to get another SE character after they were notoriously difficult to work with
Smashniggers don't play their own game, let alone the games the characters are from? Why do you think that Geno is popular despite the fact that Super Mario RPG was a massive commercial flop back in the day?
Daniel Cox
Yes it is Dragon Quest. I'm not saying I'm against a DQ rep. I'm saying I'm against Erdrick when Luminary is more well known world wide, not just Japan
Ok, so let's say Nintendo did pick the selection of fighters. Nintendo is going to pick Erdrick, a character only popular in Japan. Over Luminary, who's game sold gangbusters worldwide and more well known than Erdrick currently
Blake Baker
>He’s in a rosterfagging thread without doing basic basic bottom of the barrel research like reading the 5ch leak which already adresses that low IQ argument.
not as difficult this time because it's in a dlc slot which they originally wanted pretty sure they probably made a deal where they would let cloud be in if they get one of the slots
Ian Cook
I agree, especially since DQXI S is coming out this year.
Reminder that "brave" could also point to Frog the same way "jack" points to Jack Frost Also with how we didn't get a direct announced today it's likely we're getting it on the 25th, which lines up with the french subtitles leak saying you would have heard ot Jane "if you've been following the news". I'd say Crono is likely.
Grayson Sanders
>he thinks that one of the reasons SE was hard to work with wasn't them demanding a DLC character in the initial planning stages of the roster in exchange for base game Cloud
Crono has less chances than Geno, SE would never allow Crono over a DQ rep, Nintendo either since they publish DQ and Crono Trigger is a dead IP.
I repeat, Nintemdo themselves are publishing DQXI S this year.
Hunter Morgan
>no 2hu
Matthew Rodriguez
>Erdrick Should it not be "Roto" or whatever his Japanese name is, anyway?
Camden Martin
whos jane like the diary of jane?
Leo Turner
Maybe I should've said The Hero from DQ3? Idk, too many people are calling him Erdrick, so I just said that instead
Justin Morales
>text leaks
Evan Clark
Pakku is literally the plant's JP name though, "Pakkun Flower"
Alexander Roberts
because the people name dropping him are retards jerking off that one leak because it was on 5chan or whatever probably some fag from here just used google translate and posted it there probably got a lot of laughs from people jerking off over it
Cameron Butler
>Ok, so let's say Nintendo did pick the selection of fighters. But that's exactly what's happening.
Nintendo is trying to push DQ hardcore in the west. Any Dragon Quest representation is good for Nintendo and the series itself is very recognizable. Erdrick is the quintessential DQ protagonist, which is why he makes the most sense. DQXI isn't the only Dragon Quest thing that Nintendo keeps pushing.
Carter Harris
It's because they were stingy as fuck. We don't even need to speculate, we can see it in the game.
John Perry
>Still pushing the French subtitles leak Are you the one that wrote it? Stop that shit.
Bentley Reyes
aaaaand saving this thread in the cringe collection how many french Yea Forums OPs do Cronocucks need to convince people the dead Square IP and DQ & FF's stillborn baby is in the game?
also i got something ready for slimetards so watch your backs
Liam Hall
Over 10,000 people have read the file. Nice job assuming this random person wrote it cause they have an interest in it. Ya dumb kike.
Alexander Lopez
If the SE rep is not Erdrick, I will eat a pinecone on livestream.
Screencap this.
Dominic Miller
It all starts with this, a redpill containing the ultimate power.
>Erdrickfags lose >erdrick gets analvored by plant
>Erdrickfags win >plant gets analvored instead It's a win-win scenario, I can agree.
Jayden White
>Also, "Brave" isn't DQ. It's Crono from Chrono Trigger Thank god I can just stop reading here.
Joshua Rodriguez
this either him or KOS-MOS has a really high chance of being in the game yet everyone is fighting over characters that probably never will kinda silly huh
Noah Perez
>eeeeeh he's a mook that has a weird composite moveset he be so quirky lololol *snores* seen it
After the mementos stage was datamined? The Erdrick 5ch leak is looking stronger than ever.
Levi Allen
Good for you. You have the attention span of a toddler.
Easton Campbell
>a stage that almost everyone thought was going to be for Joker >ignore the fact that the leak didn't mention joker female alt
Justin Roberts
"Erdrick" is an even stupider title than "Darth."
Nathaniel Cooper
man what the fuck even happened to flash 2 it was so good at first but then they started going full meleefag with their fox worshiping and stopped being creative with movesets.
the closest thing to a fun character they've had that they made recently is sandbag. Everyone else before that like black mage or naruto were from reworks or patches before then. >tfw clone traps and clone juggles
Ok but it make more sense in a business standpoint to include someone that's more well known worldwide than someone who well known in 1 region. The Hero of DQ3 is literal who over here. Adding someone that no one knows outside japan as DLC isn't really a good idea
Lucas Perry
Why should the leak mention female joker alt?
Luis Roberts
>a stage that almost everyone thought was going to be for Joker Everyone thought Joker was going to get the casino as his stage. Nobody thought he was going to get mementos until this leak.
Colton Gutierrez
>he follows fake leaks No user, YOU are the cringe
Who cares about anything in DQ? You cucks just cry that your game isnt advertised correctly and that is why it isn't popular.
Jacob Lee
Because datamine reveals joker has a "jane" slot
Joseph Evans
Because if he knew about erdrick alts, why not joker alts People were hoping for the casino stage, but Mementos was more likely
Juan Flores
Leave it to seething and perpetually butthurt grinchfags with rent-free insiders in their head to rewrite history all the time.
I bet he’ll post bullshit about the casino not being ok for a children game and how “””everyone””””” said it was mementos.
Poor grinchfags, it’s almost as if they enjoy being wrong all the time.
Yes, we get it, you hate insiders, you hate them seeking attention, nobody cares, grow up.
William Reyes
>People were hoping for the casino stage, but Mementos was more likely So you agree that everyone thought it was going to be the casino instead of mementos? Got it.
Brandon Russell
>Ryu >Roy That was Smash 4. They probably learn their lesson hence the codenames >Pakkun Tbh what other codename would you give Piranha Plant.
Ryder Martin
>he still thinks a literal who third party like Erdrick is ever going to be in Smash DQfags need to grow up and face reality.
Leo Fisher
>People were hoping for the casino stage, but Mementos was more likely literally owlfag logic lmao
He didn't mention anything that involved with the grinch leak. Maybe the ones who was living rent free in your head is the grinch fags?
Liam Davis
Rent free. Owlfags hasn't been a thing for months.
Jack Sanchez
>Because if he knew about erdrick alts, why not joker alts that's like asking why he didn't knew about the ballot winner and Cloud's advent alt. he's simply an S-E insider
also Ryce seems to be supporting what Tansut says now opposed to him calling out Verge's bullshit he's feeling strong about Banjo too
Jack James
All anti-leaks and anti-leakers are seething grinchfags, please stop seething so hard grinchy, it’s not healthy for you.
Oliver Clark
see defensive owlcuck btfo
Isaiah Smith
>Jack (Joker) They dont fucking care what they name it as theyre not supposed to be seen by anyone but the devs.
People who were anti-leak jumped on the Grinch leak because it proved Vergeben wrong. And now they're back on the anti-leak train.
Matthew Sullivan
>There's more of this shit for til next year or possibly more if Sakurai wants more fighter passes The ride never ends
Charles Taylor
>sorafags trusted a pedo on who might be brave is
Jose Reed
All of them? Sounds unrealistic
Easton Adams
Most of them at least. Not that they would ever admit it desu
Jose Miller
well she was in this gayfaqs poll and uh...she is sexy and uh....
Andrew Harris
>parroting their favorite tranny. What did Sarina Valentina say about smash?
James Torres
just look it up fuck sake im not typing it out for a brain dead retard like u ffs
Parker Allen
>Crono from Chrono Trigger If only.
Nolan Fisher
Datamining suggests 2 more fighter passes, which make sense, why stop supporting Smash? It’s a huge hype machine and making extra fighters is cheaper to make than new games.
Jace Rodriguez
>Datamining suggests 2 more fighter passes That's absolutely false.
Jaxson Perry
'Jack' was only obvious as a reference to Joker because we already knew about Joker when that datamine happened. If it hadn't most people would be guessing character like Jack Frost.
Gabriel Bell
REMINDER TO ANYONE USING FAKE AS SHIT LEAKS TO DISAPPROVE A POTIENTAL INCLUSION the funky leak didnt stop K.Rool from happening
fake leaks are good because it generates speculation and more fun discussion
Vergeben and Mr. Grinch did a great job spawning discussion about multiple characters and you fags despise them for it
Crono would be such a soul filled pick that I automatically disbelieve him ever having any chance of being DLC. Only soulless corporate shill picks from here on out
Chrono Trigger is to this day still my favorite JRPG but even I know that it's far more likely to be a DQ character. Whether or not it's the original Erdrick or the Luminary, or it could even be a fucking slime (which admittedly could be pretty neat), something from DQ has far better odds just because of how huge the franchise has always been and how much it helped contribute to Nintendo's success back in the day. An entire franchise that has retained its popularity over the generations is going to outweigh a single game that SE refuses to do anything with.
And before some idiot tries to hijack this post to say "That's why Steve is getting in and not Banjo!", that is an entirely different case. Minecraft may sell millions but it didn't really contribute to making Nintendo the giant that it is. Nintendo had already been firmly established as a household name well before Minecraft hit the scene so when it comes to Banjo vs Steve, Banjo has far more of a chance due to his historical value to Nintendo, not to mention he has more support from people who actually matter in the industry, like Phil Spenser. Is that a guarantee he'll get in? No, not really, but if Banjo doesn't get in, Steve sure as hell won't either.
Leo Brown
why is Daisy going puff-puff??
Jonathan Jenkins
>soul filled pick no
Jack Reed
lol nice try
Anthony Sanders
>15 dlc fighters in ur dreams fuckface also >datamining basically same as saying some retarded faggot told me
Jonathan Rivera
>you share a board with people who unironically believe that Nintendo is going to add in some obscure character from a 20 year old JRPG It's going to be edelgard.
Isaac Martinez
>he likes ((((the grinch)))) stfu
Julian Perez
>Leave Yea Forums for almost three fucking months ever since KH3's release because I got burned out on vidya for a while >People are STILL FUCKING TALKING ABOUT ERDRICK AND STEVE DO SOMETHING ELSE WITH YOUR LIVES FUCK
Cooper Scott
oh yea because we needed 4 months of muh chair spamming and stroking off loz18's spic dick
Leo Carter
not spooing feeding u just google the name and u can figure it out for urself idc about some random fag on this site
Tyler Lee
If any DQ character makes it in (which i doubt because Squenix are a bitch to work with) then it will be the Luminary or Slime. Erdrickcucks are delusional
>being so obsessed with an imaginary bogeyman that you think anything that has a decidueye picture is an owlfag and you obsessively keep these post numbers down in your head because you seethe day and night at the "owlfag" who has made your life tormenting and miserable even though it don't even exist and thus makes your irrational fear of it even more ridiculous and laughable Rent-free.
William Hall
Ken Incineroar
Wyatt Ward
>Crono is more well known in the west right? Kek
Adrian Smith
You do realize that everyone saw Incineroar coming, right? It was THE most expected newcomer by virtue of Incineroar being the shillmon and Pokemon known to have a mandatory newcomer slot.
Cooper Evans
>You do realize that everyone saw Incineroar coming, right? lol no
yeah but unlike piranha plant, Slime is arguably the face of the DQ series.
I'm also still mad that Cloud got in over something that actually more broadly represented the FF series like a moogle, chocobo, black mage, or the warrior of light.
Isaiah Kelly
Looks like an evil Psyduck
Gavin Gutierrez
>tfw used to be a friend of his >tfw seeing his message on that kotaku article >tfw priv leaks show he learned fuckall from the entire ordeal God i wish i could punch him in the face
I know the character very well, sir. That's why I can so surely say that she will never ever be in Smash Bros, but you can keep deluding yourself if you want to. Have a nice day, mister
Andrew Howard
thats because u have autism after greninja its pretty obvious watch the next smash one have a grass starter so sick of starters overrated fags LITTERALY 800+ pokemon have to default on the newest starter no one cares about greninja no one cares about wrastle cat anymore ffs use actual ones people like fucking stupid retards
Noah Edwards
Imagine thinking that vergebitch is a leaker when the last direct exposed him as a fraud.
Logan Evans
No t. was here during the final direct
Liam Jackson
>You do realize that everyone saw Incineroar coming, right? people saw a Gen 7 pokemon coming nobody expected it was going to be bland as shit fire type starter
Decidueye expectations were still correct since Sakurai also pitched him
next you will say he was a shill pick
Jacob Hernandez
u talk like a fag and ur shits all gay also np u don't
Fake leaks causes nothing but dissapointment and shitposts.
I despise Vergeben for being a dispicable little shit when he was finally caught and the Grinch leak was nice until the influx of Steve and Banjo posters ruined everything fun about it.
These fake leaks have caused nothing but irritation and I can't wait for the day the next reveal comes cause it means we're one step closer to the end of this.
Austin Reed
is this autism?
Benjamin Bell
no shit the gen 7 one was a shil pick litteraly so many other gens to choose from and because how the games work its not like the old ones are outdated they still exist
Luis Barnes
>yeah but unlike piranha plant, Slime is arguably the face of the DQ series. so is Jack Frost and he's guaranteed to be one of Joker's personas
which is why i think Abel/Five is the best DQ rep to choose.
Levi Cruz
>nobody expected it was going to be bland as shit fire type starter wrestling is cool, fuck people who didn't expect Sakurai to pick the wrestling character
i love how many people got pissed off by that vague hint bless the Grinch
Adam Smith
starters are ok as long as they have a decent gimmick that works well in Smash
Asher Fisher
I really just want Travis Touchdown
fucker deserves to be there
Chase Baker
>Also "Brave" is just a translation of "Yusha" which can also be translation to "Hero". It's not something special for DQ. What? Yuusha is clearly heavily related to DQ, to the point JP wikipedia has a whole section to it. >Dumbasses don't even know shit about DQ, and just parroting whatever their favorite tranny insider of the day is saying. Erdrick as a title has always been associated with DQ3, after 30 years the game made another character Erdrick/Roto but that is not relevant, everyone calls Erdrick Erdrick the same way people call Mega Man Mega Man while later Mega Man are called things like X, .exe or Volnutt.
Also lol, Crono. Why would SE pick the dead series that couldn't beat DQ at its peak? Geno will get in before Crono does.
Brayden Parker
Outta the way, losers, the Smash spot's mine.
Camden Thomas
NO THEY AREN'T litteraly the most overrated shit ever fuggin sick of them look at the non starter ones Pikachu Pichu Jigglypuff Mewtwo Lucario
what is this shit 800+ and this it??????????????? fucking half the pokemon reps are from gen 1 they litteraly dont even ackowledge most of the gens
fuck nintendo
Hudson Ross
Why isn't "Brave" related to Bravely Default again?
Hudson Hernandez
are you ok?
Mason Adams
>Ok that's DQXI tho. Not DQIII, where Erdrick is the main character DQIII was the best selling RPG of the 80s and either the first or second best selling third party on the NES depending on how you count game sales. Deflecting to it just makes it worse. >I can see Luminary getting in because he's more well known everywhere while Erdrick is well known in only Japan. Sakurai has already said in regards to Castlevania and Mega Man that he focused on heritage first, DQ is exactly like those series.
Adam White
Who?
Thomas Wilson
One thing I keep wondering, who the fuck keeps making anal vore edits and wojack edits of basically any character by now? Do they plan to keep those images once X or Y characters get deconfirmed?
no because its litterally one of the most popular series on the planet and this what they do with it ??????????? then they go and add 2 shitty starters no one likes fucking retards cut the pokemon trainer cut jigglypuff cut greninja cut wrastle cat
add in eevee and its evelutions as one pokemon add in blaziken add in darkrai
Erdrick's home is in Smash Bros Sora's home is in Playstation All-Stars Steve's home is in the trash.
Jayden Clark
>Bravely Censor maybe because its another dangerously literal who IP like DQ in the west? next you will say Neku is Brave and Sora isn't in
Austin Kelly
it could be a shill character for an upcoming bravely game on switch also since when are literal who characters not allowed? nobody knew who ROB was until smash
Jonathan Miller
"Brave" is around the height of Mario/Ness going off of datamine statistics. It's not going to be DQ 11 guy or Crono because that doesn't scale right with their proportions.
You're getting your sword Gohhan and you'll deal with it.
Gabriel Barnes
>DQIII was the best selling RPG of the 80s and either the first or second best selling third party on the NES depending on how you count game sales Is it worldwide sales we talking about here or just Japan? How many copies did the West sold compared to other games on the NES.
>Sakurai has already said in regards to Castlevania and Mega Man that he focused on heritage first, DQ is exactly like those series. He did focus on heritage first for Megaman and Castlevania. But both Classic Megaman and Simon Belmont, are WAYYYYY well known worldwide than DQ3 Hero who only really famous in Japan. Plus didn't DQ3 Hero appeared in one game compared to Megaman and Simon who appeared in countless?
Jason Clark
KANTOOOOOOOOOOOO
Nathaniel Price
Sora isn't in. Sora will never be in.
Evan Wood
there's no point in hiding plant's name because he was revealed before the game was released.
Thomas Morgan
>Also, "Brave" isn't DQ. It's Crono from Chrono Trigger. This is some delusion that has to be seen to be believed.
>Believing in sora when kh3 was the biggest disappointment of the year lol
Asher Price
Neku has a decent shot considering he doesn't have a legal maze to go through like sora/dq
Jordan Stewart
cope >kingdom hearts is ongoing series with many games that recently got a game >the game is popular in japan and worldwide >sora is a popular and well liked character >has existed for over a decade now if they are okay with adding joker then sora is completely fine litteraly dont understand the hate for sora and i dont even care for kingdom hearts
Jaxson Cook
user kid gohan isn't canon to dq
Justin Edwards
Brave is byleth from fire emblem you naive faggots, why do you have to get your hopes up for irrelevant meme fighters with no marketing value?
Brandon Gutierrez
Joker's game is cool and stylish.
Sora and Kingdom Hearts in general is kind of embarrassing. I like Square RPGs, I like Disney. They don't mix, it's awkward. youtube.com/watch?v=7_6mpKet-KI
Matthew Sanders
>le shill for a non-existent niche game you're sounding as bad as Syluxfags now Square has zero reason to prioritize Literally Who'sFault or Neku over shit like Noctis or important stuff like Sora and Crono.
Joshua Edwards
>4 had the shill starter >Brawl had the shill starters >S/M had either silly seal, Bow and Arrow Bird, Wrestling cat >50/50 chance, wrestling cat gets in I can't believe you shills STILL believe Virgin "no links awakening remake" Ben
Colton Carter
Worldwide sales user, I don't think DQ3 sold a lot in the west, but Japan alone made it sell mountains, making it the best selling RPG of the 80s in general, not only in Japan. DQ was the second best selling franchise on the NES, only behind Mario (again, worldwide data)
Ultimately its a moral question, if you were Sakurai, would you miss out on adding a series that A) You like, your friends like, and that your deceased mentor figure and ex-president of the company you are working for liked to the point of saying it represented Japanese games and he would try to make it successful in the west even if it meant only one more person would play it B) Has guaranteed sales and has already outperformed other series that were DLC C) Is historically important to the company the crossover game is about as well as gaming in general because noisy foreigners are saying a game only popular in your home nation should not be represented while also berating your country?
Nathaniel Cook
What if Erdrik doesn't get in?
Jackson Lee
Ur awkward
Josiah Lee
>Basing DQ3 Hero's model on like two concept arts rather the grown up version that appeared in almost every merchandise and promotional art he's in Nigga what?
that sounds more like a personal thing and has nothing to do with sora getting axed i never played kh but all the hate for sora is so childish
would rather see him get in that erdrick or chrono because i know that would make alot more people happy and also be a way better business decision
Gavin Robinson
Agnes will never be in Ugly Ken fakeleaker and learn to shade Ultimate's style better
Daniel Ramirez
Nice to see an Erdrick thread once in a while. How you doing my fellow Chads? What are your hopes concerning his moveset for this game? And do you think we are getting a Lucas/Roy/Ryu situation where Erdrick get stealthly released along Joker during update 3.0.0?
If Nintendo placed Erdrick and Sora on the table for Sakurai to pick he would pick Erdrick, there is no doubt about that, just compare how much he talks about DQ vs how much he talks about Playstation Key Boy.
Ryan Sanders
Was this Brave thing even confirmed yet or is it just anonymous data miners? After the Grinch I'm not accepting anything as fact until it comes from a first party source.
Christopher Miller
implying square doesn't get the final say and wouldn't want to shill sora because they know it would sell more okay.....
Jonathan Diaz
>Skull Kid is a good choice. What
Nicholas Lee
>noctis did you miss the part where they killed off all future content for XV? besides, he's already in tekken
Carter Cook
Sora is owned by Disney, even if Nintendo wanted him in, working with the mouse would have been too much of a burden. Concerning DQ, they probably chose Erdrick for the fact he is the most known DQ protagonist.
Aiden Brooks
Sora is still more realistic than a literal who 3DS series that never domestically 500k anywhere or 2 million worldwide
and those are just the same numbers FF6 and DQ8 did in the west on debut. Fucking garbage
Isaac Reed
The only thing we got from the datamine is the name brave """""Leakers""""" were the one who said it was erdrick
Evan Bell
>call bravely default a nonexistent game >thinks a character with no future like Crono has a legitimate chance Seems pretty hypocritical. Also why would they put Noctis when they've already decided their FF rep was Cloud?
Nolan Sanchez
>M-M-MUH SALES Literal retardation
Chase Edwards
the Disney VP literally said Sora is in the clear for Smash and Nomura would GLADLY work together to get him in there
Jaxson Edwards
Sora's franchise has not caught up to DQ yet in sales, in fact, the gap has increased by 9 million over the years and KH is farther from it now than it was in 2002. Furthermore, KH is now 17 years old and still sold less than DQ when it was 17.
Just imagine this user, a game that is the crossover between the largest media company in the world and one of the biggest video game franchises of all time cannot beat a franchise that started in a small office room with 6 people and is only popular in some exotic Asian nation. God how pathetic.
Ryder Lopez
>sales not important when it comes down to paid content its the most important thing its a business not ur friend they are going to do with would sell the most
this isnt hard to understand
Bentley Jenkins
Maybe user is Swedish and would gladly let foreigners step over him.
Henry Powell
>post yfw "brave" isn't anyone from a Square game and this leak larping finally ends once and for all
P5 is literally an autistic otaku's wet dream fantasy. Protag is a dark gloomy antisocial outcast who also just so happens to be really attractive, have tons of friends, and every girl he meets wants to fuck him including his teacher.
Alexander Reed
>n-n-no not my weakness! Bitchly Dogfaultfags btfo dont mess with the big boys again
Grayson Lewis
Time to stop coping and start bathing you filthy stinking autistis.
Ian Diaz
>no travis model onscreen anyone could make what is shown there
Ethan Phillips
>THIS LITERAL WHO ANIME SWORDSMAN IS KNOWN I SWEAR The absolute state of Erdrincels.
Unironically more people know about Geno than Erdrick.
Aaron Rodriguez
True True, DQ did make history in Japan, I'll give you that. Seems like a DQ rep is inevitable. But again why not add someone that not only make the Japanese fucking ballistic happy and everyone outside japan can also be happy because he's a well known face and be seen as the mascot of DQ. Therefore, I welcome our new Slime overlords.
Carson Hill
>tfw I'm just gonna pretend I knew all the DLC picks all along and that it was super obvious You dumb niggers, get on my level
All my arguments take that into account, KH started in 2002 and DQ has still sold more than DQ since 2002. DQ also had more sales than KH when it was 17 years old. KH isn't losing to DQ because of age.
Tyler King
>Square-Enix profits >SHIT sales pick one they're gonna need something in par with Cloud to justify the next S-E inclusion and ots gonna be from one of their best seller series
Carter Allen
>No Joker model onscreen anyone could make what is shown there If this video leaked too you fags would be comparing it to anime screenshots or say someone really dedicated made it
dragon quest might have sold more but erdrick isn't nearly as known and is a literal who to most people while sora is a more popular character u also have to take that into consideration
Jayden Cooper
dont underestimate S-E's jewery they can always double dip or keep adding FF7 characters with DLC >inb4 all the FF7 music are held hostage with the next dlc
Carson Garcia
I don't make the calls, I just report the facts.
Sakurai probably wants Erdrick to feel the most like the original games he got famous from. It's why Mega-Man has his MM2 proportions instead of his more lankier modern design, or why Simon has his Conan look instead of the red haired kojima take.
Noah Torres
Crono actually sold a lot past 2-3 million while Bitch Default couldn't even do that also SHIT west presence
Isaac Anderson
>Dragon Quest is one of the last major Japanese franchises not yet represented in Smash >Jon from GameXplain, Imran and Vergeben all claim that a SE character is coming, and probably a Dragon Quest character, and often heard about Erdrick. Tansut who originally leaked Cloud during Smash 4 also is certain he is in. >Datamining revealed that the codename for the character next to Joker and PP is “Brave”, the class name for Hero used in DQ in Japanese. It also coincides with the codenames for Joker and PP, which described those characters and not the series they are from, thus killing Bravely Default. >Erdrick is in
i wish he had is red hair take he is so much hawter that way gosh his conan looks is kind bleh
Joshua Ortiz
How was it proven fake?
Blake Russell
KANTOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Nicholas Cox
well yeah, I'm on Yea Forums. If I was crushing puss or something I wouldn't come here.
That being said though, Kingdom Hearts is about almost as embarassing as Sonic without any of the "good old days" or fun cheese that's associated with it.
Jeremiah Morris
face it basically no one knows who erdrick is and basically no one on this board knew who he was before this stupid leak spread while im sure a fair amount knew who sora was face it sora would be a much better pick
Jose Mitchell
>muh sales propping Crono up now would not increase sales in anything. Propping up a Bravely character could increase Bravely sales
Michael Jackson
>people will finally stop taking gayexplain's word as word of god after pack 2 drops Feels good man
Camden Campbell
What I don't get is why he didn't get at least a recolor resembling it.
Xavier Moore
Saving this thread for when Erdrick is anounced. Get ready for the second pill after the Grinch leak, denialfags.
Sincerely, the more retro Erdrick feels the better. I'd love him to be a rep of retro JRPGs in terms of style since so far most RPG characters have been modernized. Cloud brought in some PS1 elements so hey, maybe Erdrick will bring the NES elements. My biggest wish would be for him to have alts with other heroes, especially the female Zenithian from DQ4 and The Dragovian from DQ8, who play similar to Erdrick in terms of weapons/magic they can use and body shape. Unlike some anons I have no problem with DQ3 being the face of DQ in smash since DQ3 is the face of DQ and a good game that is impressive for its time and hardware, but those two are my favorites.
Grayson Jenkins
Except a DQ rep would sell more than that faggot with justin bieber’s hair, sorry cringelord, back to playing with winnie poop.
Noah Clark
>reading comprehension >also ignores the entire existence of rockdog, comedy relief owl, and mimiyku seal had nothing either, wasnt even consideration lmfao
Liam Walker
>DQ1's hero are you retarded? if anything it would be DQV's hero.
I have seen more references to Erdrick in anime than references to Sora.
Christopher Adams
Yeah obscurity in the west. I don't even get what joke you're making. Is that a air pump for something?
Levi Perez
>no one knows him so he isn’t in Japan does >hurr no one knew him outside Japan before this stupid leak but now they do durr Yea I’m thinking he’s in
Logan Barnes
But he's most famous for his grown up art, again why base the model off 2 concept arts. Plus the DQ3 Hero is 16, what 16 year old looks like fucking manlet, When we're getting Joker, who's also 16, Look completely normal
90% of everything is trash user, anyone who knows the basics about the history of video games knows DQ, DQ3 and the impact it had at the time.
Alexander Miller
that would take more work probably because they have a totally different look the red hair one looks much younger
Henry Phillips
>Steveposters don't know how to read Giving children access to ipads and smartphones was a mistake.
Cooper Bell
>Virgin Ben >A reliable source >Especially after he said a SE would be FIRST and then goal posted saying it would be second D-d-don't fall for Virgin Ben's tricks like I did Erdrick, run while you still can
As an outsider to the series, it doesn't seem like that to me.
The NES/Famicom era having chibi esque proportions makes way more sense to me. If you were talking about later DQ games I'd understand completely, but considering he's a retro hero it probably makes more sense to give him a retro design.
Elijah Davis
also somebody in the original thread already found the original stock image of a front desk lobby used in the fun fake leak
Oliver Gomez
I really don't get why that is a problem, don't know a character? Well, now you do, nice to meet you. Instead people simply go "I don't know this therefore I don't want to know this", which is a pretty retarded mindset to be had.
Leo Powell
Travis doesn’t need to be deconfirmed because anyone with an IQ above room temperature in sub-saharian Africa knows Travis doesn’t deserve to be in Smash.
I’d argue a spirit would be too much for him when there’s so many IPs with actual good games not in Smash.
David Phillips
No I literally just mean a recolor, he doesn't have an alt with red hair but he does have one with both brown and silver hair.
Adam James
oh sakuri is a hack
Austin Gutierrez
but ResetERA are the ones saying Erdrick is in
John Campbell
>deserve to be in Smash. >deserve there's that meme word
Joseph Russell
Resetrannys are fumming over Sugiyama laughing at tranny suicide rates on TV.
Andrew Reed
>Suda wants to talk about his new game >Says that to stop the chat from being flooded with "SMASH??????" How would he know if he's not working on Smash?
Elijah Rodriguez
They are the ones saying he shouldn't be in because the music composer said homosexuals don't make babies.
Henry Lee
yes but this isnt the past anymore
William Torres
kek that better be in his moveset
Anthony Wright
>I can't tell the difference between Mario and Shrek, really, both are equally deserving of being in Smash.
Gavin Mitchell
well shrek is a cult icon
Logan Collins
Nothing is more meme than Suda’s garbage.
Dominic Roberts
This
Also his move set will probably incorporate the classic jrpg combat and likely summoning of monsters like slime in someway
Lincoln Moore
> T. Dark Pit/Palutena player
Jack Young
Still convinced Erdrick and Steve are in. DQ is pretty popular in Japan, and Erdrick represents the franchise perfectly. Minecraft is popular both in Japan and the West, has no competition (Master Chief and Cuphead disconfirmed, Banjo completely irrelevant and no future) and is used to show the collaboration between Nintendo and Microsoft. Next would be Doomguy.
>Never a good game Subjective >Never sold well Then why was it a big deal for Suda to release 2 early to help the Wii for that gap in the year? Plenty of shovelware came out anyway >Nobody cares about him Sakurai is friends with Susan >Irrelevant, unknown Just got a new game You deserve this (you)
Christopher Rogers
Then they'll put Steve, it'll make them a lot of money.
Jason Taylor
>Banjo did get the support of Phil Spencer This doesn't matter. Sakurai is going to approach Microsoft with a character already in mind and Phil is not going to have much say on who it is.
Leo Gonzalez
Anyone being DLC would bring Nintendo money. But if it's Nintendo's suits who chose the DLC, they will probably choose characters from franchises which are popular nowadays (like Joker from Persona). DQ and Minecraft are popular nowadays, it's obvious why they would choose them over BK or Chrono Trigger.
Isaac Howard
Donkey Kong got a new game in 2014, the franchise is relevant. Banjo's franchise is not.
Lincoln Edwards
King K Rool proves the relevancy argument, since it took something as big as the Smash Ballot to convince Sakurai to add him.
Jaxson Harris
>"literal who" >literally one of the largest and most well-known RPG franchises in Japan, second only to Final Fantasy >"""""""""""literal who"""""""""""""
you need to be 18 to use this site
Robert Wright
except microsoft has no say in this retard it isnt there game thats why i dont understand the spergs who think they will have a character
Aiden Lee
>sakurai apologist that thinks kid icarus is just as popular as mario
Jack Stewart
Nothing more delicious than sorafags getting obliterated left and right after nonstop screeching and insisting that "Cuckmont" and "Kuc K. Rool" will never be in Smash.
Lincoln Adams
>i dont know how NDAs work okay i guess Aubrey didnt deconfirmed Steve, Cristina didnt deconfirmed Shantae/Edelgard/Velvet, Frank didnt deco firm Master Chief, or Itsuno didnt deconfirm Dante
Aaron Hughes
t. salty rosterfag upset that Kid Icarus got two characters in Smash 4 and stole a slot from their deserving character
Cameron Williams
>i like eating shit so everyone else should be forced to and pretend its a t-bone steak
Leo Martinez
Nice bait. Now go to sleep, kiddie.
Christopher Anderson
>Sonic from Sega >Snake from Konami >Cloud from Square-Enix >HURRRRRR ITS A NINTENDO GAME OTHER COMPANIES HAVE NO SAY HURRRRR Are you pretending to be retarded or are ou really retarded?
Imagine thinking a literal who from a low budget mini game collection would ever get in Smash.
Might as well start asking random NPCs from 20 year old multiplats games to be in, they have the same chance. Gosh i’d love that dude who sells shotguns in GTA 1 to be in Smash.
Lucas Brooks
Kid Icarus Uprising is a good game you wiener.
Kayden Lee
t. rosterfag SEETHING about their deserving character getting passed over by Fire Emblem and Kid Icarus characters
Adam Powell
I’m not against Erdrick
But we should consider the fact that Jack and Plant weren’t simple codenames
Adam Ross
i mean they dont get to decide if they have a character put in u sperg it isn't up to them retard
Colton Green
putting a literal who guest character in would not help increase sales, that's why youre not getting Shitdrick or a DQ rep in Smash.
Hudson Diaz
Crono fights with a notably very low stance, so it wouldn't be all that unusual for him to be at about Mario height in idle
Grayson Morgan
Anyone who defends DARK FUCKING PIT needs to get shot, kill yourself.
Lincoln Thompson
>Abel >not Eight boooooo take your stinky slut wifey and leave, Abel
Yusha isn’t a simple code name either. Some people just aren’t autistic brainlets.
Mason Reed
It's the same autist from the other thread, ignore him
Thomas Long
Everyone who's a console RPG enthusiast should know who Erdrick is. He's a notable character in several of the most seminal games of the genre, it's almost like not knowing who Sid is.
Chase Evans
Please stop using months old place holder stats that never meant anything and were removed from the game a long time ago as an argument, it makes you look retarded.
Jordan Rogers
>B-B-B-B-B-B-B-UT HE'S AN ECHO SO YOU AUTOMATICALLY CAN'T CRITICIZE HIM >*someone suggests another echo instead* >NO THAT WOULD RUIN THE WHOLE GAME
Tyler Cox
Kamiya said the same thing when 4 was out
Landon Lee
>shit analogies >wants more miyamoto advertisements cope and concede pikmin dog let the chad pit seethe you on the inside
Sebastian Morales
K Rool got in for 3 reasons
>Classic series >High in the ballot >Series is still relevant
We shouldn’t ignore Banjo being high in the ballot and that people still love and remember his franchise regardless of the relevancy.
Hunter Garcia
Yeah, Sonic, Megaman, Pacman won't ever be in S- Oh wait, you're just sperging non sense.
Joshua Watson
Flash 2 is fun, but I actually liked Crusade even more, though it was ugly as sin
Andrew Hill
If you remove Dark Pit from the game and don’t add anything instead, even an echo, Smash Ultimate would be a better game.
Ayden Richardson
>chad >Literally the only and best argument people can only come up with to defend him is the "muh echo" argument >Even 99% of the people defending him don't even give a shit about him, just do it to defend Sakurai
lmaooooooooooo
Brody Hughes
jesus ur fucking retarded and don't understand at all
Cameron Watson
>with a character in mind
You have to be fucking retarded if you actually think Sakurai will purposely choose Steve
The relationship would have to happen between Nintendo and Microsoft first
Oliver King
but their leaker gods (Jon, Tansut, Ryce, Sabi, etc) say its no problem, so nobody is complaining also DQXIS has orchestra music now, so they all think Sugiyama became their bitch due to Nintendo
Fair argument but tell that to the guy I'm responding to, not me
William Mitchell
except they aren't and never will i mean its not like oh we want steve in smash now put him in that's not how it works u retarded sperglord >reaction pic neck urself
Isaiah Adams
Your assuming the ballot wasn’t also supporting Banjo
Isaiah Cook
>all that retarded sorafag and syluxfag chanting this will always be hilarious
Liam Williams
I’m still waiting on Pikmin 3 and Prime Trilogy cunts
Robert Kelly
Probably because you don't know how to communicate on the internet. You should have taken more English lessons.
Oliver Wright
No one gets what you're trying to say, you mongoloid.
Henry Butler
no u don't get what im saying and acting like ur in the right u faggot
Christian Ward
Nintendo gives Sakurai their selection and Sakurai can only deny characters he wouldn't think would work well in Smash. Then Sakurai approaches the company for their character and to work out an agreement.
We know this is exactly how it happens because the Persona 5 designer said so. He didn't know Joker was going to get added in Smash until Sakurai came with the invitation.
Jack Howard
What would represent Microsoft’s best on Smash?
I’m thinking a giant box with the words “paid online” and “DLC” inside.
Ultimate is a 30 second video of people jumping around like retards playing Kinect shovelware.
Thomas Perry
Syluxfags are the absolute worst, wanting Sylux not because of the character's merits but because they want to spite Ridleyfags. There is nothing more cancerous or worse than Syluxfags.
Nathan Brooks
>doomguy >shiteater The list was looking okay enough until then user
because nintendo of japan isnt going to put any western shit on that list and sakuri isnt going to approach them u sperg u just proved why no western dlc will ever happen
Andrew Diaz
reminder kuroganehammer kept the codenames a secret to Jam1Garner and insiders including vergeben because they wanted to investigate if Erdrick was Brave pastebin.com/pEYGazDe
also kept it a secret because they didnt want Nintendo to scrub out the names like with Roy/Ryu
Brandon Johnson
It's the guy who kept saying cope and seethe in the other thread. Ignore.
Matthew Reyes
I MEANT IF MICROSOFT ASKED THEM TO PUT STEVE IN THEY WILL NEVER ASK MICROSOFT FOR A CHARACTER U FUCKING SPERGTARD
see u didnt get what i was saying
Noah Martinez
You've proven for a while now that you are unable to process basic logic in your posts
Seek help
Cameron Diaz
Thing is, Dark Pit is such a low effort echo that I don't see a reason to be mad about it. Literally a recolor they changed one property to and added angrier sounds to.
It isn't so much that I wouldn't prefer someone more different, obviously I would. It's just that Dark Pit probably took only 1 day of development, not even I bet. Why bother getting mad about it, he didn't factor into anyone else not getting in.
Dominic Mitchell
the moment that one of the devs said that they wanted to remove naruto but he was kept in because of his unique playstyle was the moment that I knew that they were going to be faggots for the rest of the game's development
You’re missing the point about how one of those retards got the “Jack” and assumed Raiden
Nathan Nguyen
They literally went to SE to get Cloud in Smash, same with Kamiyama and Bayonetta. Why would they not ask Microsoft for a rep with the good relationship they have nowadays? And why do you keep typing like a retard?
Jaxon Morris
This isn't funny anymore, back to Discord.
Lincoln Powell
>why did they go to companies they have worked with many times before because they dont have the same relationship with microshit
Ryder Cook
Great investigation if all they ever did was come with the wrong conclusion of Jack being Raiden
Bentley Torres
They already worked with Microsoft. Crossplay between XBOX One and Switch in Minecraft. As well as Cuphead coming to Switch. Here, Microsoft and Nintendo worked together in the past.
Cooper Stewart
>wahhhhh muh discord rent free seek help
Liam Powell
>nintendo of america they don't have any say in this keep crying u shitter
Joseph Gomez
I still want kid goku with kamehameha, power pole, nimbus, after image and great ape fight me
Hudson Cook
Do you really think they could work out all of those things without any involvement from NoJ?
Benjamin Morgan
>Implying they wouldn't pick Minecraft instead
Cameron Hernandez
yes fag i do no one in japan uses xboxs so they have no reason to get involved
look up sales for xbox one in japan basically no existent
basically all proof u need to know why they would never approach microsoft
Jordan Flores
>Kid Goku gets in >Leakers claim they saw an image and thought it was Erdrick That would be hilarious, it's like when Erdrick was deconfirmed because "Leakers" got Jump Force and Smash of all things "mixed up"
Eli Bell
FOR THE LAST TIME
LEGACY MATTERS AS WELL PEOPLE ASKED RIDLEY AND K.ROOL BECAUSE OF THEIR LEGACY, NOT BEING A RECENT BITCH. RECENCY DOES NOT DEFINE RELEVANCE RECENCY MATTERS AS AN ADVANTAGE IN THE PROJECT PLANNING
"TRENDS OF THE TIME" CHARACTERS GET INTO THE GAME AND DLC. THIS STILL HOLDS TRUE WITH JOKER FROM A 2016 GAME
READ THE FUCKING FE25TH INTERVIEW ON SOURCEGAMING
THIS IS WHY YOU FAGS DIDNT GET FUCKING BLANDANA DWEEB, DIXIE, KEKTAIN TOAD, OR FAGLUX IN THE GAME THIS IS WHY FE DIDNT GET A NEWCOMER FROM 2017 RELEASES, JUST FUCKING CHROM SOLE RECENCY DOESN'T MAKE YOU A LIKELY CHOICE
THIS FUCKING KILLED IT FOR ALL POST-2017 SWITCH CHARACTERS TOO
>Ignoring the recent collaborations that Nintendo has done with Microsoft >Ignoring how big Minecraft is in Japan yep he's in
Lincoln Reyes
Based Nuclear Kermit absolutely destroying and annihilating Refusteves with words.
Nathaniel Hughes
no it wasnt that was years ago before 4 even came out also people used that argument to defend shitty Dante rumors, which Matt Walker debunked
Julian Thomas
Based
Juan Walker
saw how low the sales are and now ur just spouting memes huh face it microshit will never be in
Joseph Brown
>finally undo the mistake have sex
Zachary Clark
Dark Pit increases the game quality Miyamoto garbo doesn't, which why he's a failed echo now kneel to Chad Pit's musky cock, Rock Pikmin cucks.
Owen Williams
put me in the memeshot
Carson Ramirez
>Dark Pit increases the game quality
Explain how.
Ryan Hernandez
>LEGACY MATTERS AS WELL Is this what you tell yourself about your irrelevant character?
Logan Bennett
this how does a edgy pit skin make it better?
Joseph Rogers
ridley is always relevant as long as there are metroid games you sperg
Jordan Ramirez
K. Rool and Ridley come from franchises that still get new games in the 2010's, of course relevancy is important, but not solely the character, the franchise as weel has to be alive. Castlevania got a new game in 2014, so did DK. Metroid got a new game in 2015 (Federation Force). Animal Crossing got a new game in 2012 (and is getting a new one this year). Pokemon... Well, it's obvious, same for Fire Emblem. Street Fighter gets tons of editions.
Luke Gutierrez
>being so out of touch that you didn't know /vp/ was already laughing at the Smashfags predicting Decidueye as early as spring, when Incineroar's first big episode aired
Aaron Reed
it's amazing how Incineroar getting in Smash over Decidueye was a big fucking meme on /vp/ and that actually ended up being the case
Nintendo will have their head off if they dont give Metroidfags anything HD Trilogy is pretty much happening gimme Hunters HD too damn it
Tyler Kelly
Finally, someone who gets it.
Luis Collins
Yes but for the sake of the argument I was mentioning games close to the year Sakurai chose the roster for Ultimate (in 2015).
Anthony Davis
yeah that they also thought Jack was Tekken-related according to a discord screenshot from their secret server
Lincoln Hill
Based.
Hudson Powell
except retro reps are an exception which is why we got 'irrelevant' characters like duck hunt and rob and (at the time) pit which is why even shit like banjo would qualify because of legacy and demand if sakurai can say that geno qualifies as a 'retro rep' and would be a fine addition as a result, and banjo only came three years after, he also qualifies as a retro rep sakurai loves those, come on. relevancy. isn't. everything. sure it doesn't mean characters like geno are likely but it means characters like banjo actually make some sense.
Brandon Johnson
except they aren't going to put some character in as paid dlc that's a "legacy character" especially someone like banjo who alot of people don't even care for its different with base roster but as a paid character no way fag
Adrian Carter
The best part of this picture is that Genofags have just accepted their fate
Brody Taylor
Duck Hunt, R.O.B. and Mr. Game & Watch were picked for the same reasons Piranha Plant was, not because they were retro. Pit was basically an excuse to take an old character and give them a makeover.
Nintendo is also picking the characters this time. And they don't really have a reason to pick a wacky character like Sakurai usually does.
Evan Cooper
Not for DLC, though. With the four veterans excluded, the DLC of Smash 4 are the main character from the latest FE, Ryu, from a popular and relevant franchise, Cloud, from a popular and relevant franchise, and Bayonette, from a freshly new and popular franchise. With Joker and probably a DQ character, it seems we are getting once again relevant and popular franchises. Which is not the case of Banjo.
Aiden Brooks
>Sora screaming in the most assdestroyed manner possible So accurate.
Chase Perez
>relevancy matters >unless if they're REALLY old then they can arbitrarily be assigned as "retro"
Juan Hernandez
recency is not main factor of "relevance" legacy is not "irrelevance" and too matters to relevance
he's correcting you retards not saying K.Rool is "irrelevant". fucking accomplishments, not appearing and do nothing noteworthy
Nicholas Allen
Why would it be a codename though
John Wood
this banjo will never be dlc and thats the only characters left
but i will be honest ken and ryu were stupid characters to add why add characters from fighting games like half the appeal of smash is using characters from games that would never be in a fighter also they are boring
Camden Collins
As someone who actually wants Dragon Quest in Smash it's funny to watch people against it come up with all these silly arguments for why it can't or why that would be a bad thing. They can't use the 'literally who' or 'it's not relevant' arguments since the franchise is still around and quite strong, so they have to turn to stuff that's proven to not matter or that Sakurai doesn't think about when making characters. Deep down I think even shitposters know he's very likely.
>coping >don’t kys and end all the pain and suffering
Dylan Phillips
I didn't even mention k.rool only ridley you dumb shit
Daniel Miller
i bet u think dark samus which is bascially just a black skin also made the game so much better huh if they add a pokemon and it's a starter from the newest gen im just done with this fuck nintendo fuck game freak fuck hackuri
Isaiah Ramirez
>recency is not main factor of "relevance" Having a recently released game is a big factor in relevance, though. There are a lot of factors that make a character and their series relevant, recency is just the one most people (and Sakurai) care about.
That user is retarded.
Adrian Reyes
>Square >Caring about Crono HA
Cooper Hill
>Lara Would her final smash be getting fucked by a horse and then she squirts the semen onto the enemy?
Aaron Hernandez
>lara croft
lmao never ever
Levi Robinson
>lara croft you have to be at least 18 to post here
Zachary Collins
see legacy also matters in relevance just appearing in games isn't relevance
Good Example: >Ridley being the adversary of Metroid series for 30 years and did some cruel shit to Samus and is the sickest recurring boss of the series >Galactic Federation is one of the driving points of the series and is Samus' affiliate until Fusion exposed them as shady fucks. Bad Example: >tanabe is making throwaway hunters antagonists for a game or 2, then on to the next. rinse and repeat.
Matthew Myers
the fe fag is enough to never trust nintendo with anything again
Turns out the only way to incite commenting is to just call out random shit without proof and to make up outlandish shit lol
Xavier Morris
Truly the worst threads on Yea Forums, you guys make smashfags look bad
Henry Nguyen
Literal samefag
Landon Jones
relevancyfags are autistic
Aiden Lewis
>Having a recently released game is a big factor in relevance, though. not it isn't nothing ahead of the project planning influenced the inclusion aside Pokemon, which is an official exception since moving set in stone things can be catastrophic.
that's why Sakurai said "trends of time" were he looks into previous generation releases and prioritize those who were viable there for the base game. DLC is another story since its essentially confirmed both Ultimate and 4's DLC are different
Jose Brown
its just i like the idea of a new pokemon rep but not one from newest game and not starter its like they have to default on one for some reason i dont get it its not like people will care for them that long like??? theres a ton that still really popular and more intresting seriously why no eevee would have unique mechanic because the evolutions covers alot of the gens a fan fav obviously still in spotlight (was just on the cover of the latest pokemon game)
u can't tell me people like greninja or wrastle cat more than the eeveelutions
they literal have an idea for such a unique character that would be really well liked right before them but just won't do anything with it are they actually retarded?
James James
That's hardly the case when it's been cited the only reason Ridley/K.Rool are in Smash was because of the ballot.
Jaxon Robinson
Dark Samus is my jellyfish wife dont you dare insult her
and yeah she did, shorter reach hitboxes and better dodges turn Samus into sex
Samuel Phillips
Holy fuck based
Eli Wright
the pokemon roster for smash has always been ass. only 1 fucking legendary, no darkrai, deoxys or literally anybody? Nope. Here's your shitty shillmons, and starters.
>Talking to Square for Sora Nope, only Based Mouse's permission is required for Sora
Nolan Moore
I want Byleth because he's actually pissing off FEfags in the process no axe waifu, no SHAMONE, no noodle hair. just a smelly teacher who's rent free
bring on the otomeshit
Christian Wilson
This just in, people who say they datamined the word "brave" have no evidence despite that a datamine should be able to be replicated by anyone with the tools. No person who actually works on datamining smash has confirmed it.
>fans voted Ridley and K.rool due for their legacy gee, i wonder why?
Jason Miller
ok. now this is cope!
Nathaniel Perry
>Even after getting in Smash, no one still gives a shit about Incineroar Even Zoroark didn't fail this hard
Adrian Reyes
>This just in, uh, "nuh uh"
Jeremiah Powell
It's actually been pretty bad as far as representation
>Jigglypuff being there only due to convenience >Pichu as well while also being the only gen 2 mon >3 shillmon, one not even particularly popular in its own generation >Some have human like movesets, which is a waste from a series about monsters/beasts
i know >one of most popular series to exist roster is gen 1 pandering and dog shit yikes
they should just cut it back to pikachu, mewtwo and lucario and rework it and add 3 more in like darkrai for legendary blaziken for starter and eevee and u have basically all the gens covered i guess pokemon trainer is okay to but give maybe like the gen 2 starters as well and one more i guess from the newer gens like mimikyu
Nathan Watson
Why aren't Geno or Isaac playable then? They had tons of support.
It's because of neither of them matter nearly as much as K. Rool or Ridley
Brayden Cook
Does anyone think Smash news is coming this week?
Kayden Torres
I just want Miku
Samuel Stewart
>they got in due to their legacy in relevance is this too hard to figure? maybe i should've exemplified the idea that a spinoff title didn't influence their inclusion in the roster misleading roster fags
Tyler Parker
More people were definitely vocal about rool and ridley.
Also "why isn't EVERY popular character in if it was based on popularity" isn't a good argument.
David Torres
Not expecting anything is the best way to approach things at this point
Not picking Erdrick for Dragon Quest would be like not picking Cloud for Final Fantasy.
Bentley Baker
Their legacy had nothing to do with it, otherwise at least one of them would've been in since Brawl.
Ryan Diaz
Good thing Dragon Quest isn't coming then :P
John Wood
April 25
Benjamin Roberts
post the >30fps one if you have it, i know that was you.
David Carter
>having no argument other than Pepe edit You lose, good day sir
Camden Wood
i did cause i played the original trilogy. i suspect anyone who grew up with a snes also knows him
Jackson Miller
You can smell the asshurt and passive aggression from that emoticon
Ayden Lopez
they were litteraly memed in its not that they were the most wanted but rather had the loudest backing of autists who needed there way ridley is fine because metroid only had samus up to this game and its still getting games and he still has regular apperances but rool is dead character that has no reason to be in ridley was probably going to be added eventually anyway
Nicholas Moore
user, are you forgeting about Sakurai's retarded 2big agenda? also Pit was a legacy pick as well
