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sound understandable with ps4 but I was thinking psx-ps3 which would not happen

Sony said so themselves

Loading screens are still a thing?

They're just replaced by "connecting to online services"

>Console that is capable of playing PS2, PS3, PS4 and new games
Even with the censorship BS, would you still buy this.

Absolutely seething

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How far back?

>4 year old hardware

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have sex

>8k
I fucking hate video games

>supports physical disks
>very fast loading times
Does not compute.

>Backwards compatible
of how many generations though? I should be able to play ps1 2 and 3 games on it

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It's PS4 BC.

Why not?
PS1 and PS2 emulation is already working.
PS3 emulation with 4k upscaling/rendering on the PS5 would be a huge selling point. They could sell the entire PS3 library at launch on PSN.

>sell the entire PS3 library
desuga the best ps3 games were just ps2 ports

Would be an expensive console

how are they going to manage to get the pricetag under 600 usd for the ps5?

>PS3 emulation with 4k upscaling/rendering on the PS5 would be a huge selling point.
You really think it could run that? Nigga please.

Why the fuck are they still going after rediculous resolutions and dumbass memes like raytracing before they actually get the games to run at a decent framerate?

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Will the PS5 be backwards compatible with PS1-PS3? I heard it would be but I might be having a fever dream.

It's basically gonna be a PS4 Pro Pro isn't it?

For you

Article literally states the opposite

it's backwards compatible for the Nintendo Playstation too. OF COURSE YOU'RE HAVING A FEVER DREAM

>PS1 and 2 are easily emulateable on anything that isn't a laptop
>PS3's are super cheap and PSN still supports them
Why the fuck do you faggots need BC?

>States the opposite

So it's going to be dramatically different build and arcitecture?

I've got a laptop and those are easily emulateable on that, too. It's sad.

>extremely fast loading screen
So it has an SSD. Whoop-de-fucking-doo.
Truly cutting-edge technology.

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Cope

cant even maintain 1080 60fps on ps4 pro but already flaunting 8k support LMAO

B-but Stadia...

STREAMIN IS THE FUTURE OF GAMING

They forgot to add something
$599

stadiachads rise up!

> raytracing
On AMD graphics?
> been in development for 4 years
AMD hasnt even started mass production of chips for ps4.

Do not click this image
I am warning you
I am serious
DO NO CLICK THIS IMAGE

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There's no way in hell it has an SSD
Unless it's a tiny 32GB one and he's talking about fast apps, not games.
A 500GB+ SSD is way too expensive to go into a console.

zen2 and navi are going to be released in the next few months.

>> raytracing
>On AMD graphics?
This. Raytracing is an nvidia thing and if AMD had something like it, they wouldn't call it raytracing. Just like their freesync vs gsync.

>8K raytracing at 60fps
>people actually believe this

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>A 500GB+ SSD is way too expensive to go into a console.
This is so sad since I can buy one for 70-something Ameribux on Amazon

I'd rather have 1440p 60fps than 8k anything

But consoleplebs are retarded and want 30fps for some baffling reason

I think my 480GB SSD costed my around that a couple of months ago when I updated my PC, best purchase I have made.

>X doubt

>Cerny is still the chief architect
Knack 3 confirmed as the AAA launch title

Discs for installation user, just like now

>they wouldn't call it ray tracing
No you faggot, RTX is the Nvidia "branded" ray tracing. RT has been a thing since the 90's. Every GPU is capable of doing ray tracing. RTX isn't even full real-time ray tracing, it's a neural network creating fake reflections based on creating color blobs from minor pixel data.

- Not a PC

Alright good, moving on.

Cerny: “The raw read speed is important, but so are the details of the I/O [input-output] mechanisms and the software stack that we put on top of them. I got a PlayStation 4 Pro and then I put in a SSD that cost as much as the PlayStation 4 Pro—it might be one-third faster.”

They revamped the way loading in general works. It's not just a hardware upgrade.

there's still 0 sources about that shit it's amazing how gullible and docile people can be to write over in circle when it's about one of the brands that defines their existence.

Hopefully this one will actually have some god damn worthwhile games

>no PS1 games
garbage

This
Nani the fuck?
All 8K is gonna do is slow down game development to a near fucking halt and drive up the costs to “Fuck you” high.

This information comes from a Wired article where they got a presentation about the PS5 and did a writeup on it. It's not some random leak.

If BC is true then it's a day one purchase. I still am using my launch PS4 and PS3.

Although I cleared through my entire PS3 backlog.

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Pfff I’ll believe it when I see it otherwise fake and gay.

>extremely
EXXTREEEME!

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Seriously
The fucking 3DS had 60 fps games and that’s shits weaker than an TI-86 Calculator

when are consoles ever going to be anything other than slightly worse PCs / lagging behind PCs / PC wannabes?

Wrong
799$

>turdpiss AIDSfaggotSJWLGBTPQCensorcommiekikestation 5
>#thisis5thesubhumans

Thanks, but no thanks!

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Because Soap operas are at 60 fps and made extremely cheaply and on a very aggressive schedule
60 fps looks “cheap” to them

8k 15fps
cannot wait

And the current netbook-tier 5400rpm 1-2TB drives cost like 20 bucks in bulk
Next gen will be pushing for 4K and now fucking 8K above all else so everything other than the GPU is going to be poverty level.

>PS4 backwards compatibility
Feels good. I skipped the PS4. Now I'll just buy physical copies at a reduced price and enjoy whatever games I missed out on using superior hardware

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Marketing 8k is a huge mistake. They would be better off marketing 4k and adding 8k media playback as a separate bullet point

>backwards compatible
Nice. I hope it doesn't get priced at 599 US DOLLARS tho.
I avoided ps4 since it is a pile of shit, I hope it pays off like avoiding wiiU in favor of switch.

8k is 4x 4k , so 7.5fps to be exact.

Because I don’t like having to switch out my console or run to my computer to play certain games. It’s nice to be able to play everything in one place off one machine. Real question is what did it cost you?

The whole point of marketing is to make your thing sound more impressive than it already is
Plus 99% of people who own a console won't be able to tell the difference anyway.

>At the moment, Sony won’t cop to exact details about the SSD—who makes it, whether it utilizes the new PCIe 4.0 standard—but Cerny claims that it has a raw bandwidth higher than any SSD available for PCs.

wont come out before 2021, you can quote me on that.

>BB in 60fps
I can't wait, the dream is real

they already marketed a 4k console. if they did it again nobody would care

>Backwards compatible
via online streaming or some other bullshit. I doubt you can just pop disk in and play old games.
>Extreme fast loading screens
Marketing speak that means absolute nothing.
>physical disks still work
Could mean a lot of things. Likely a good thing though.
>supports 8k
Will maybe be able to run minecraft at that resolution. I hope games would run at acceptable framerates this time, but i highly doubt that.

what the fuck man

PS4 will definitely run on it. Other consoles not so likely, or they'll be curated and selected by per-title basis like the PS2 emu that they have on the store.

I don't believe for a second that any next gen console will be shipping with even a shit-tier SSD, ANY SSD, big enough to be a primary drive. Maybe an SSHD with just enough space to fit the one game/tech demo that was being played at the time.

how the fuck is a console gonna have an ssd big enough for all the multiple 150GB required installs will keeping costs down?

Too much to bother.

A dazzling 8k at 10 whole frames per second!!!

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>I should be able to play ps1 2 and 3 games on it
Literally no console has ever had backwards compatibility even close to that far. It's extremely rare that any have ever gone back two generations, let alone four.

The idiots who think a big file size means a bigger better game are fucking retards
A huge game should be no more than fucking 22 gigs if that

Soap opera effect doesn't work on games. They just don't understand framerates at all. Some of them likely believe that 24fps meme though.

I wish they would market it as a 60fps console this time around. That would make me at least a little hopeful.

PS2 isn't easily emulateable SONY's internal PS2 emulator barely runs and needs hacks to get most games working, also they have to hack the roms for trophy support for some retarded reason, same with the PC solution(though this one could've changed recently)

I wish console developers would stop already with the resolution meme, 4k is good enough, hell 1080p is good enough for most people, I just want a smoother experience

>supports 8K
>fast loading screens
Why do you fuckers always fall for marketing bait?

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Will it have games this time?

>physical discs still work
Yeah for giving you access to a code. The only one out of the big 3 that does physical right is Nintendo. The entire game is on the cart and if it isnt they put a bigass ugly banner to shame the publisher like they deserve.

Wasn't ps3 compatible with ps1 and ps2?
Isn't Xbox one compatible with x360 and xbox?

What are textures

>bloodborne on ps5
>loading screens are 0.00001 nanoseconds long
>still 30 FPS with frame-pacing issues
FROOOOOM

>extremely fast loading screens
lmfao, no. on ps4 pro EVEN IF YOU BUY A SSD FOR IT it still takes upwards of 50 fucking seconds to load any area in Witcher 3. Not happening.
>Supports 8k
maybe at 480p @ 10 fps

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>whatever games I missed out on
But user, the PS4 has nigger__

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now THIS is seething

If it's backwards compatiable then how are they going to sell re-releases and remakes?

either this will cost 1500$ or its bullshit and will never run native 1440p/60 or above

Bros, I don't know if I can handle Sony utterly dominating another generation again...

This argument is fucking retarded. Seriously, stop and think for a second.

It's not the hardware that dictates frame rate on consoles, it's what the developers choose to aim for with their visuals.

Sony can't just magically pick out a fucking piece of hardware that will always deliver 60fps with whatever you throw at it, because developers will always try to push the hardware on any given console and since most average consumers don't give a shit and consider 30fps just fine, developers will continue to use the hardware to get the best visuals they can at 30 rather than 60.

No matter how strong the hardware, this will always be the case unless the general audience for games begins to demand 60fps

Jesus fucking christ.

Yeah, I'm ok with discs just for installation, but discs just for unlocking the download sucks

>whatever games I missed out
there's barely any exclusives worth touching

8K is such a bullshit meme. They have had the tech for 7 years but sat on it to sell 4K. Unless you’re doing glasses free 3D, OLED + HRD in 4K is literally just as good for gaming on a TV.

They'll have some very pretty screenshots to post.

>Supports 8k
still

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The console's job is to make higher framerates possible without lag or freezes. Stop being an autistic and recognize they're saying that they've done their part this Generation.

If there's no real competition like this gen then obviously they will dominate, Xbox needs to get their shit together this time

it'll be likely the hacked together checkerboard method or something for "8K" just so they could market it, like they market their Pro console at "4k".

>lmfao, no. on ps4 pro EVEN IF YOU BUY A SSD FOR IT it still takes upwards of 50 fucking seconds to load any area in Witcher 3. Not happening.
This is directly addressed in the article.
>“The raw read speed is important,“ Cerny says, “but so are the details of the I/O [input-output] mechanisms and the software stack that we put on top of them. I got a PlayStation 4 Pro and then I put in a SSD that cost as much as the PlayStation 4 Pro—it might be one-third faster."
>To demonstrate, Cerny fires up a PS4 Pro playing Spider-Man, a 2018 PS4 exclusive that he worked on alongside Insomniac Games. (He’s not just an systems architect; Cerny created arcade classic Marble Madness when he was all of 19 and was heavily involved with PlayStation and PS2 franchises like Crash Bandicoot, Spyro the Dragon, and Ratchet and Clank.) On the TV, Spidey stands in a small plaza. Cerny presses a button on the controller, initiating a fast-travel interstitial screen. When Spidey reappears in a totally different spot in Manhattan, 15 seconds have elapsed. Then Cerny does the same thing on a next-gen devkit connected to a different TV. (The devkit, an early “low-speed” version, is concealed in a big silver tower, with no visible componentry.) What took 15 seconds now takes less than one: 0.8 seconds, to be exact.

Are you a retard?

500GB SSDs go on sale for $60 all the time these days, unless it's NVME.

Will PS4 games run at PS4 or PS4 Pro settings on PS5?

Better run at Pro settings.

PS3 had PS2 hardware inside and PS1 can be emulated on a Switch, so it isn't that much of a feature.
Xbox does it by recompiling the executables in a game by game basis and also manually, so it's not the same.

Fasten your seatbelt because they will. PS3 was an exception to the rule.

this it's a total meme, any fucking modern display has inbuilt up-scaling lmao, these fucking liars know exactly who they're targeting with their ambiguous bullshit and it's normalfags

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I see no reason why it shouldn't be running at Pro settings.

>a really perfect gaming pc
fucking kek that got me

>The console's job is to make higher framerates possible without lag or freezes.
Are you a CSI Miami script?

A console is a piece of hardware, in this case made to play video games. It's up to video game developers what they actually do with it, and that includes their target frame rate. There will always be developers that aim for 30fps just to push the visuals a little more, no matter how powerful hardware gets.

The PS4 is very capable of hitting 60FPS on all sorts of games. But devs don't care about that, sales don't come from 60FPS. They come from impressive graphics that wow consumers. So those same games that could easily run at 60FPS will have their visuals cranked up and overdone until it can barely run on the system, because it looks prettier. And it'll sell. How exactly is the hardware responsible for this?

>The AMD chip also includes a custom unit for 3D audio that Cerny thinks will redefine what sound can do in a videogame. “As a gamer,” he says, “it's been a little bit of a frustration that audio did not change too much between PlayStation 3 and PlayStation 4. With the next console the dream is to show how dramatically different the audio experience can be when we apply significant amounts of hardware horsepower to it.”

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>It’s nice to be able to play everything in one place off one machine
so........... a PC?

Games will have screenshot modes where they'll be 8k on ultra settings for that screenshot only.

Laziness.

This list is missing a serious amount of asterisks. Can't wait for the backpedalling to start.

omg these are amazing what the fuck

I'll be running Ice Lake and RTX 3080 Ti when this comes out.

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Is she getting fucked in that picture?

>but Cerny claims that it has a raw bandwidth higher than any SSD available for PCs.

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>extremely fast loading screens
? Did PS4s not use SSDs?

and a game now is almost 100 GB retard, after 4-5 games, that 500GB will be full, and a 1 TB SSD cost a lot, like 150-200$ . So stop sucking dick, until we see what they show us, and how much are just Buzzwords for the retards

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they have patents suggesting that ps1-ps3 bc is on the table. my guess is that they're probably saving that as a surprise announcement when they launch the ps5.

>$499
sony never learns do they

Thanos dies to Thor before the opening credits, but he has already destroyed the stones. The rest of the movie centers around using the Quantum Universe to retrieve the stones from the past timeline.
Natasha and Clint go to retrieve the soul stone, with Clint sacrificing Natasha to access it.
Stark builds a gauntlet to wield the retrieved infinity stones to reverse the snap.
Banner has become Hulk permanently, but retains his intelligence and memories as Professor Hulk.
Scott, Hulk, Steve, and Tony travel to the battle of New York to retrieve the mind, space, and time stone. Steve fights his past self.
Thor is living with Korg and Miek, getting drunk and not caring about what happened. Hulk and Rocket go to get him, and his beard and hair are messy and grown out.
Hulk tried to wield the Stark gauntlet, but it appears to be too powerful for him.
Steve dual wields his shield and Mjolnir, it’s unclear how mjolnir comes back. Thor still has Stormbreaker, possible meaning he’s become unworthy due to him neglecting his duties.
Sam is the first dusted avenger to come back, we hear him say to Steve “On Your Left,” then we see T’challa and Shuri coming out of a portal, and Sam flying out.
Big scene with all the Avengers, including Wasp, the Guardians, Spider-Man, vs Thanos and a revived Black Order. It looks like the big fight in Ready Player One, but we actually care about the characters
Stark reunites with Peter and gives him a hug
Carol gets the short hair she has in recent comics, and Peter Parker gives her the Stark Gauntlet

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>no inbox VR support at launch
FAIL

>supports 8k

I haven't even gotten a 4k TV yet. Do they have 8k?

>normalfags will eat this up

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damn, you faggots kept saying next gen consoles wouldnt have ssds

It literally says so in today's Wired interview with the lead system architect of the PS5.

>Because it’s based in part on the PS4’s architecture, it will also be backward-compatible with games for that console.
wired.com/story/exclusive-sony-next-gen-console/

(That's not a direct quote from the Sony guy, it's a sentence written by Wired. But they wouldn't publish that unless they had confirmation of it.)

This. Sekiro is 20 GB.

Name one good PS3 exclusive game

- Still made for children who aren't grown up enough for a real gaming PC just like other consoles

amazon.com/SanDisk-SSD-PLUS-Internal-SDSSDA-1T00-G26/dp/B07D998212/ref=sr_1_5?keywords=1tb ssd&qid=1555426892&s=gateway&sr=8-5

$100, you cuck.

Reminder that the PS4 operates on 8GB DDR5 RAM working for the CPU and GPU simultaneously which is a faster solution than your PC probably uses.

>discs still work
Sounds good so far but much like any system, its gotta have modern/killer app games to make me come over
I didn't get a PS4 till 2016 because thats when it was finally getting games, i assume it will probably be just as long or more for me to get a PS5

Do they expect anybody to believe this?

Enjoy your ban jackass

nigga, having all games run below 60fps is just a given now with sony

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Playstation always had BC you retard. The only reason the PS4 didn't have it is because the ps3 hardware was a mess and it was impossible to make it work, and after that they just didn't want to pour money into a half assed BC with only having ps1 and 2 emulation.

>buy console for single player and indies
>buy PC for multiplayer so I don't get cucked by online fees for consoles
>tfw glorious idort
I often wonder what it's like to be dumb enough to actually be loyal to a brand/platform

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I've seen 1TB drives on sale for $80 lmao.

Yea Forums is so fucking and stuck in the past, do you s Brazilians even buy PC hardware?

This is why I don’t come to Yea Forums ever anymore.
DMC5 runs at rocksteady 60fps 1080p on ps4 and on pro runs at the upscaled 4k again at rocksteady 60. The console that doesnt run DMCV consistently is x1 S. Devs choose their priority, not the hardware manufacturers. Nintendo games run more consistently because their devs care less about the realism and resolution war. Only buy games from devs that prioritize responsiveness over resolution, and the industry will change.

Hell, even the devs know this. Naughty Dog said the FPS and responsiveness from the uncharted ps4 collection make the games way better and there’s no doubt 60fps makes a game more enjoyable.

What do shitposters say now that Sony has outright confirmed BC? They said Sony was too greedy for it and now they're the first ones out to confirm it for next-gen. What now?

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>PS5 coming next year
>has already won the generation
based sony

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>PS4 to out-perform PC for "years to come"
>the rest of the pic
sony is fucking shameless. completely shameless.

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how about these niggers have backwards compatibility with all their previous online consoles so I don't have to keep my PS3 around

hell, why the fuck can't I even play my digital PS1 games on PS4?

if this is porn give it to me

Because remasters look better, goy.
NOW PAY UP

8K is a fucking meme and I sincerely hope studios aren't actually wasting time and budget on it. You'd be surprised how few homes even have 4k televisions.

>3rd gen ryzen 2 7nm
>navi
>4 year old hardware

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because they have drones, they are the Apple of video games, people will their dicks, even if they are not wrong.

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You mean GDDR5?

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Every time it's the same bullshit and retards eat it up.

>RAM working for the GPU
huh.... tell me more of this magic user.

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>whatever games I missed out
All three of them?

The Wired article today states that the PS5 will play PS4 games. But it doesn't say anything about consoles before that.

>Because it’s based in part on the PS4’s architecture, it will also be backward-compatible with games for that console.
wired.com/story/exclusive-sony-next-gen-console/

It's probable the PS5 will play original PS1 games through emulation, though they'll probably only be downloads I would imagine. Maybe it will also play PS2 games through emulation. Sony has shown they're willing to use open source emulators (the PlayStation Classic of course uses an open source PS1 emulator).

The PS3 of course only achieved PS2 compatibility through hardware (not emulation), which was famously expensive, parly causing the price of the first PS3 to be so high. So the PS5 almost certainly won't have that sort of hardware-based backwards compatibility. Perhaps they could support select PS3 titles through emulation. In a downloadable fashion, like they currently have on the PS4.

>Xbox does it by recompiling the executables in a game by game basis and also manually, so it's not the same.
Er, are you sure? The Xbox 360 has as an OG Xbox emulator. And the Xbox One has an Xbox 360 emulator. Those facts are very well known. Perhaps you are just referring to OG Xbox games on the Xbox One, though? But still I would be surprised by that - I just assumed they had an emulator, but that it wasn't hugely compatible which is why so few OG Xbox games can be played on the Xbox One.

IT IS BORDERLINE IMPOSSIBLE FOR BUY A 1080P TV NOW

There are a few around $150 that are dog shit, everything is sub $100 720p trash and everything over $200 is 4k.

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>sata
Cerny talks about PCI-E, so it'll be even faster than standard sata 3

I can't wait until it's worth buying 2-3 years after launch.

Remasters have nothing to do with it. Copyright laws have.

>Sony is the Apple of videogames.
I am an idort and even i think this statement is fucking bullshit.

>when a 200$ machine has better looking games than your 1500$ skyrim mod machine
I would probably seethe too

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poorfag cope

>Infamous
>Infamous 2
>Ratchet and Clank CiT
>Ni no Kuni: Wrath of the White Witch
> Demon Souls
Would add GoW and P5, but those are on PS4

What the fucking shit, Xbros. They should have waited and done a proper E3 show full of multiplats and ended on a two minute teaser video with a bunch of shills spouting garbage about "highest quality pixels" like we did. It's not fucking fair!

based retard

I realize that but not every household upgrades their television yearly or something. I'd love to see stats of how many households actually have a 4k tv.

Though I guess if you'e at the age where you're interested in a PS5 you probably would own one.

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>when you're so poor you don't have both
I would seethe too

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>Cerny talks about PCI-E
source?

>my PC from 2012 was still more powerful than a PS4
>literally just upgraded the graphics card this year with a rx580 for cheap and I can run almost everything at 1080p 60fps with settings still higher than a ps4 pro

that's all I want, I just want solid 60fps at a decent resolution, not 4k cinematic shit.

GoW can barely be called a "game" though.

You guys are forgetting about the lobby menu that can be customized

It was posted by the official Playstation Twitter so everything in it is real.

They went for Zen 2 which is more than what people expected. I think this is going to be $500 at launch with Sony taking a considerable loss offset by their PS+ profits.

Next gen will last a decade.

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GoW is a great game with great gameplay.

Man I was hoping we'd get games in a good resolution running at a stable 60 fps but they're going to shove this 8k shit down our throats and still make every game run like shit.

cope

They will say PS is copying Xbox even though bc barely did anything Xbox, hell they haven't even updated the original Xbox list in at least a year
they gave up as well
Unless the next Xbox is just a very upgraded Xbox One this gen will have been a wash for them

OH NONONONONONONONO
HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH

It supports 8K on paper. Doesn't mean any game will run at that resolution.

seething

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No, but you could buy one and connect it externally. It barely did anything though since the PS4 hardware just isn't capable of loading in data that fast

And still begging for ports and seething about Epic exclusivity.

>when you're so poor you don't have every console
BASED

don't believe the specs until it's out and tested.
Also backward compatibility might be a red flag. It could just be a "ps4 pro Z ultra" kind of deal in the end.

I said good.

I would say that consoles have been left in the dust by how fast PC graphics card tech is developing, but then I guess nvidia are greedy kikes who are holding the industry back through a monopoly, so I guess not.

Why do you think I don't already own several consoles and a PC? GoW is a good game. Period.

it's a white people game at it's very core so it has mediocre gameplay by default

Cool, now I don't need to buy a PS4.

>At the moment, Sony won’t cop to exact details about the SSD—who makes it, whether it utilizes the new PCIe 4.0 standard—but Cerny claims that it has a raw bandwidth higher than any SSD available for PCs. That’s not all. “The raw read speed is important,“ Cerny says, “but so are the details of the I/O [input-output] mechanisms and the software stack that we put on top of them. I got a PlayStation 4 Pro and then I put in a SSD that cost as much as the PlayStation 4 Pro—it might be one-third faster." As opposed to 19 times faster for the next-gen console, judging from the fast-travel demo.
My fault, he didn't confirm it.

you people are fucking retarded

this just means it will support 8k output. For example interface, streaming, and maybe some indie games. It doesn't mean Sony will force devs to make graphics intense games in 8k resolution.

thank you user

Imagine saying this shit with a straight face. Sony is a horribly arrogant shit company.

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>no 8k anime titties
Fuck you, Snoy

Backwards compatibility and turning 15 second load times to 0.8 second load times sounds nice though.

Bigger studios have started using this whole "performance mode movie mode action mode" etc stuff more and more so maybe they'll continue doing both. 1080 60 or 4k30.

I don't hate GoW but I have no idea what I'm looking at there that's impressive? It's a bunch of particle effects but no gameplay that actually demands some decent execution.

Outta fucking nowhere they announce the PS5.

You say that but I can't think of a first party Sony title that doesn't run like horseshit. 30 fps or an unstable 60 isn't ok.

He was right because it's a deceptive statement -- Hardware surveys for Steam show that the vast majority of PC gamers are running on toasters their mom bought for them with only a small slice going for the enthusiast builds that PC gaming supposedly lives off of.

4k is now mainstream, but there's no way people will get 8k TVs anytime soon. Just because they say it will be capable of 8k doesn't mean they'll force that shit (hopefully)

ps4 is what, 10 years old and it still isnt worth buying

It's because 90% of PCs are simply work or for personal use and not gaming.

Who the fuck actually plays games on a television in the first place.

Silky smooth 15 fps at 8k

Doesn't matter how powerful PS5 is. They lost me as a fan with all the censorship BS.

What the fuck is the deal with pushing this 8k meme bullshit? I'd be willing to bet that most consumers don't have TV's or monitors even capable of 4k, let alone 8k. More over, there isn't enough visual media out there in 4k to even justify actually upgrading.

Rushing into 8k is complete nonsense. All it means is playing the same shit AAA games, but now with nicer looking screenshots and worse fucking performance.

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"I believe we made the most beautiful thing in the world. Nobody would criticize a renowned architect's blueprint that the position of a gate is wrong. It's the same as that." - Kutaragi on the PSP's shitty and broken square button

What else would you play them on?

Most of the time the bigger the game the shittier it is.

Forgot to mention LG 34GK950F monitor. Check up on that price, console boy.

meanwhile, in reality

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>still plays games at 30fps
>still worse than a computer from 2010

>8k

HAHAHAHAA
Consolets are NEVER getting 60 fps, it's not even a goal for these companies

Enjoy your 16k 25fps game in 2030 my dudes

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A monitor without input lag. Televisions are for wagie boomers who play like 2 hours of games a day tops.

>rumours saying that ps5 will have retrocompatibility
>mfw i skiped the ps4 and i'm losing nothing
>also ps3 titles are selling at banana prices
What a time to be a GAMER.

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It can output 8k, doesn't mean it will ever be used. The pro can do 4k but most games are still fucking 900p or whatever.

You're correct. GoW is a crappy arkham clone.

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Drop that 2 in the front for a true, cinematic 5fps experience only on (F)PS 5

You joke but if you buy TLOU2 or whatever on a ps4 now you're either retarded or you have an excess of cash AND time.

>PS4
It's fucking nothing. Call me when they get PS2.

Sony finna boutta get dabbed on hard next gen

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>slow-mo effect to make it retard-proof every 5 seconds'
great combat snoycuck

BLOODBORNE REMASTERED
IN GLORIOUS 8K
>30 fps

Something that doesn't have massive latency.

>Killzone demo was stunning and astonishing

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>everything stuttering without constant fps

fucking kek

I play on tv and input lag has never been a problem. I doubt it really matters that much. I also play games 12 + hours on row. Check mate.

Why buying a ps4 exclusive that i can watch it's entirety on youtube?

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>Just Cause developer said PS4 will outperform the PC
>Meanwhile JC3 runs at 5fps on both the regular PS4 and the Pro.
>Textures in JC4 look like dogshit on both consoles aswell.

Top kek. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

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WHO CARES ABOUT ANY OF THAT?
LABO AND SMASH ARE ALL I NEED

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Slow brains won't notice it, nor how inaccurate a gamepad is.

the most unbelievable thing about this is that they a re using an ssd hardrive

where are they cutting cost on this thing?

i understand it's using upgraded ps4 architecture so they are probably saving cost on r&d and maybe manufacturing but this thing can't be cheaper than 600 dollars

>BC
>with ps4 only
meh. all momentum to buy one suddenly fades. I was hoping for true BC w/ all systems, but I realize now that was a pipe dream.

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This actually
PS3 is dirt cheap right and will be for awhile
Might get a few low print pircey games over time that go up in price (see the Jojo All Star Games US release) but I guarantee you right now PS3 is a great system to collect/stock up for, especially since a lot of whats there, if it hasn't already been given an HD/upgrade port wont ever be backwards compatible
It also doubles as a good media machine, much better than PS4

Are we looking at 599 USD 2: Electric Boogaloo?

I can't see it being any better than the most budget of the regular market SSDs. Currently some low-tier 1TB SSD is somewhere in the 200$ range alone.

60 fps easy with modern cards.

>I'm a retard that plays on the level of a grandma, therefore the problem doesnt exist

>8k
7 fps.
Maybe less.
Imagine.

>8k
Tired of this sheeple bait.
OH MY GOD 8K BUT 25 FPS STILL WHOAAAAAAAA

They're willing to take a 100$ dollar loss, supposedly, 500$ is basically confirmed now which is still a hard sell in non-US countries actually.

Thanks Grimsby!

Even with 200$ dollar loss it would be a technological miracle if they'd deliver on even half of those claims.

>the most unbelievable thing about this is that they a re using an ssd hardrive
why? they'll throw some cheap 500gb SSD in it and call it a day.

>sony
>ever learning from mistakes
Oh yes, we'll definitely see a second FIVE HUNDRED NINETY NINE US DOLLARS and more comments from Sony how gamers are suckers who will buy it anyway.

>physical media
why?

>500$
completely impossible, if this thing is capable of ray tracing and native 8k output we're looking at a minimum of 1k

Yeah I'm skeptical too but I refuse to believe they are stupid enough to sell at 600$. Maybe they'll sell multiple boxes, one cheaper and one premium from the get go but that doesn't make much sense either.

>8k

1080p upsacaled to 8K. Woah...

They're claiming some "super advanced SSD tech" (which is basically bullshit) and 500 GB won't cut it in the slightest this time around considering the size game installations are taking up now.

Because of the backwards compatibility?

>supports 8k
Whoever is pushing this must be high as fuck. These consoles can't even maintain 1440p consistently, the logical upgrade from 1080p, let alone 4K. And now they're attempting 8? Fuck off. Anyone who falls for this truly is an absolute retard who simply likes big numbers.

What is even the point beyond 4K?
>WOAH I CAN SEE THEIR HAIR FOLLICLES. TRULY 10/10 GOTY MATERIAL
Absolute waste of resource and attention. Video games are the wrong place for anything beyond 4K.

Because its where most of the sales come from?

this
the downgrades have only begun to happen.

>supports
Doesn't mean it'll run all games in 8k, just it'll be able to play 8k videos or output to 8k.

You can get a 500GB SSD for $80. I imagine it's like $40-50 a pop for Sony since they're buying in bulk. Gone are the days of SSDs costing hundreds of dollars.

i'm done with sony so this doesn't mean shit to me. unless they miraculously have a halo infinite port

>PS1-3 will be behind internet PS Now streaming paywall
Fuck right off. With my PS3's disc drive starting to fail I won't be able to play my PS3 games anymore and will need a new console, good to see Snoy spitting in my face I just won't buy their new shitty console hope the competition destroys them

The PS4 has a bitchmade processor and underpowered GPU. even for when it came out and it can barely match the scale games are going for these days. graphics or not.

I use mouse. And i notice it but it doesn't bother me really, i also sometimes play drunk and i do still fine. Chekmate.

Got a kek out of me

>I CAN SEE
you cant though that's the thing, there's a point where resolution becomes irrelevant and that point is 4k for dekstop monitors and a little higher for in a living room

this whole thing is just marketing with bug numbers for the retarded normalfaggot movie game buying people to gobble up

>8k
ps5 confirmed 150 million seller, normalfags will fall for this like they always do, lmao.

The average person who plays video games doesn't typically think all that deeply about what they're playing, it's more something they throw on for a while after work or school. So long as it looks shiny and makes loud noises, that's often enough to satisfy.

many people are used to living mediocre lives in which they rarely faced with any real challenges or failures. As mastery of deep or complex systems demands repeated failure, these people cannot summon the energy necessary to invest and persevere through repeated failures.

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>you now remember

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the ssd will be at least 1 tb, man
i imagine they can still get a bulk deal to bring it close to 100 dollars, but that is still insane if they are really not going over 500 dollars

uh oh the snoy is getting mad and resorting to the deflection tactic

I don't think it'll have a 1TB SSD. I'm betting it'll be a 500GB SSD and maybe a 1TB HDD

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Nice, seems like Playsation will stay as the juggernaut of the industry. Kinda hoping for a new Infamous.

STOP POSTING THIS

Why not? The have sold like 100 million crushing the competence, if they put it at launch, that people will buy the ps5 which will make them to keep winning for all the next gen.
It's a smart move.

Being a pc gamer is sad.

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It won't be that big, the article claims they did engineered something specifically for the PS5. Probably some HDD/SDD hybrid.

Doomposting the PS5?
Surely this won't blow up on your like the PS4.....

Can they at least do 4k 30fps, or hell even 1080/1440p 60fps before jumping to meme shit like ray tracing and 8k. I'm primarily PC and I don't give a shit about ray tracing. I rarely even hear people talking about ray tracing.
Even when games like Metro Exodus and BFV were bragging about it, still once again nobody cared.

you can't have 8k or even 4k (4k will be pushed as the resolution standard) on a 500 gigs, man

Only if we're talking about the most budget SSDs out there. Forget about anything with NVMe tech so only sub-1k speeds

>bc with ps4
Thank god. Instabuy now

Nice to see that Playstation is still the flagship for console gaming. Also glad that I didn't get a PS4 Pro yet.

All that footage is from bullshot pre-downgrade E3 trailers though.

you can already get hybrid drives on pc and the one in the next xbox and ps5 will most likely be one of those. probably 1tb hdd with some ssd modules for like 20gb of super fast memory to load in assets really quick. kinda like amd storemi software,

>Zen2+Navi 7nm achitecture optimised for raytracing
wccftech.com/playstation-5-next-gen-q3-2020
So basically a summer 2k19 PC, I wonder how fast you'll start seeing emulation on PC.

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"look how smooth this runs" isn't as good a seller as "look how pretty it looks". even then, running smooth isn't as good a player retainer as general skinner box methods.

>a higher output resolution requires more storage space

I love it when consolefags pretend to understand hardware.

>console will be released with fairly recent hardware
Well this is a change of pace. Least it won't use a 4 year old GPU.

That thing is basically a PC anyway, it's AMD doing the hardware again.
see

Guess im skipping the switch pro

it literally, does even with compression

I don't own a PS4 yet but this actually sounds pretty decent for a home console, really curious how much they'll charge for it at launch, and I hope they actually prioritize the correct things or at least give more options because fuck chasing resolution I want my decent frame rates.

HOW backwards compatible, though?

PC gamers can't be this retarded?

>emuletards jumping the gun
The ps4 architecture is already very close to PC and there isn't a single viable emulator of it.

It literally does not. I can hack Half Life 1 to run at an 8K resolution and it won't suddenly take up more space on my computer. You are absolutely retarded if you think that's how it works.

But is it supercharged?

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>extremely fast loading screens
This isn't necessarily solved by an SSD. There are some games on PC where it takes the loading time down from 45 seconds to 3 seconds, but some games where it has almost no effect at all.

>PCfags clap, holler, and claim victory when years-late console ports finally come out whenever everyone else has already moved on
>Scream bloody murder whenever an upcoming console is revealed to have a leg up in some fashion, people are still in denial about the Switch thanks to its portability being a gigantic appeal that PC can't replicate, people are already in denial about the loading solution the PS5 is using in this very thread
>Majority of them are college students (or worse) living off of pennies using builds from years and years ago that will easily be compromised by a new console's appearance
>So dumb that whenever a game consolefags blazed through easily comes out it's built up as amazingly hard, or if it's an RPG, claims that grinding is the only way to progress will crop up because they lack any critical thinking skills past "big number beat little number"
The objective best way to currently play games is to buy PC ports of current-gen console titles if they exist and settle for the console version if they don't, but the community surrounding this is hilarious. If you mention Bloodborne everyone's hairs will raise on end to this day.

output resolution has correlation with gamesize or graphic fidelity.
but you do need better quality/resolution graphics to make 4k worthwhile, which they still haven't done for 1080p.

its because of shit like this why i never trust $ony. supercharged my ass. the ps4 was weaker than similar priced pc on launch. the 7850 was a garbage mid tier gpu and the one in the ps4 is lower clocked to lower power draw.

has no*
goddamn fat fingers

There's still a couple of decent 1080p models if you look around.

It's not anything new. X1X already has "Jaguar Evolved" arch which apparently speeds up HDD loading even with the same HDD in use between 1S and 1X

user, I'm talking about legit 4k fidelity (not just the plain pixels).

b-but stadia..

EAT SHIT SONYFAGS!!! NEXTBOX IS MORE POWERFUL!

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>backwards compatible
yeah, that's a lie
probably some kind of "put the disc in and get a 5% discount from buying the game on PsStore" kind of bullshit

4K is literally just a name for an output resolution. There's no such thing as "4K fidelity", that sounds like straight up marketing talk. Like said, if you want to benefit from such a resolution your textures will have to be high-res too, but I can pretty much guarantee right now that the vast majority of PS5 games won't run at native 8K. Hell, the PS4 Pro couldn't even handle 4K natively so you can bet your ass the PS5 won't have true 8K.

PS4 was x86, where's the Bloodborne being played on an emulator?
The OG Xbox was also x86 and look at that emulation scene.
Yea Forums-tards don't understand emulation.

>So dumb that whenever a game consolefags blazed through easily comes out it's built up as amazingly hard, or if it's an RPG, claims that grinding is the only way to progress will crop up because they lack any critical thinking skills past "big number beat little number"

Name literally one time this has ever happened.

How expensive is it going to be?

It may support 4k at most and the loading screens will still be shit, unless they decide to use an SSD, which will most probably bloat the price. And I'm saying that having been using Playstation since 1999.

How will Microsoft respond?

>no exclusives
Thanks for the good practices Phil, but you've taken away any reason to not just be idort minus xbox, compared to full idort now.

>says Just Cause developer
Most of the quotes from the pic were made by 3rd party developers, not Sony. Learn how to read, baboons.

An SSD has already been confirmed by Sony.

why do you need a new console when you current one can do 4k?
you need games not a new console

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>Toilet Boy

God I hate that fucking cocksucker

Okay, guy. By fidelity I'm talking about the actual 'artwork' that goes into a game. You Hallife example does not make sense because the original artwork (assets) for that game were not produced at 4k.

what is going on in this image

Good, it's compatible with PSVR m1. It's the little things.

>8K
Gaming was a mistake.

that later year expansion is not a good thing.

Pretty fucking good for a console.

>backwards compatible with PS4
>meaning I can play ALL my games like KH3, Bloodborne, Sekiro, Persona 5, DMC5, etc
>super fast SSD
>more recent video card
literally fuck PC. fuck it. console all the way again

wake me up when they reach 1080p

I remember when PS2 could display toy story like graphics and PS3 is ten times more powerful than an PC.

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Large, if in charge.

>W10 Store

mad bcs he knows nextbox is more powerful and it got confirmed?

>produced at 4k

Again, there's no such thing as a game being "produced at 4k". It means nothing. It sounds like something merketers tell to laypeople who have no idea what any of these terms mean. You can make any game run at any resolution. Half Life 1 will look much better at 8K than at 720p, even though it was made in a time when resolutions like 4K or 8K or even 1080p weren't even close.

.twitter.com/Sony/status/1118165902682460164

Cocky Sony is back.

>Backwards compatible
>Only with PS4 games
Meanwhile Xbox One can already play shit from 2002 natively.

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>2020 (I THINK)
>Facts

point out where it says only PS4

Me coping if far more achievable than you getting laid.

it really isn't. this is all to be expected. ryzen processors have been amazing value on the desktop for ages now and you can get an APU which can play modern games at pretty decent fps and settings for like 90 bucks. this is just going to be the next gen of that. ssd's have been standard in new pc and laptops for years now and have been readily available on pc for 10+ years. this is just console makers finally getting their head out of their ass and providing a product we all expect rather than some shitty gimped console with laptop cpu and 5400 rpm hdd through a usb header like the ps4.

>Physical media
good can't wait for more region-specific versions of games instead of making one version that changes based on the system language.

cope

This.

>I've sent proof as to why I know Anaconda aims to be the the better performing device

"Aims to be" Nice parsing, Klobrille, you fucking bitch. Either shit or get off the pot.

>Backwards compatible
>softblocked
>have to rebuy the games digitally

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"physical discs still work"
Oh this is a feature to advertise now? This is the worst timeline.

>.twitter.com/Sony/status/1118165902682460164
literally only says PS4 Backwards compatible. No PS3, 2, or 1. Now buy the PS Classic

you're the one coping.
cope harder.

Sony wouldn't allow this gif on your Playstation

keep coping

He probably thinks the games will have 8k textures and shit.

Those have been a thing since the PSP? Are you insane?

i just opened that gif on my ps4 browser and got psn banned wtf guys

ray tracing is a meme

>Because it’s based in part on the PS4’s architecture, it will also be backward-compatible with games for that console.
wired.com/story/exclusive-sony-next-gen-console/

Consoles won't match the power of current GPUs because it would be too expensive to manufacture you defective mongoloid.

0.5frames per second
justification being so that players can screenshot that perfect frame they want without feeling the pressure of time

>seething this hard

cope.

seeth

Not so much advertise as state because it was other people who were building up that the disc tray was going away, especially with Microsoft's attitude. Clearing the air makes sense.

They still can't even get games to run in 4k now.
I get hyping up your new hardware, but this is silly.

Just you wait.

Someone post all that bullshit from PS3 pre release.

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Well sure, but considering that a $40 Crucial drive will give you a night and day upgrade from a 5400rpm hdd, I figured they'd just slap something really cheap in there.

I don't know if it's been proven false but wouldn't a spic version of a game still play in spic even though your PS4 is set to burgerland language? That's fucking retarded.

If we pretend Navi top end matches the 2080 Ti, the PS5 manufactoring costs will be over 1000€ while being decently able to do 4k 60 fps with raytracing. Yea Forums basedniggers will defend it of course.

>mfw I was right
>death stranding and last of us 2 aren't coming to ps4 at all

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Don't know about american games, but european games will always be set to whatever language you have your console on

>PS4 will have 8GB of GDDR5 RAM, while your regular high end PC only has DDR3 RAM

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Depends on the game. Japanese copies of Final Fantasy 3 for example would boot in English despite the fact that it was a Japan only release. All EU PSP and DS games packed French, English, Spanish and German languages that would depend on system language.

>I figured they'd just slap something really cheap in there.

cerny claims it's going to be faster than anything on pc so it either is a ramdisk or he's lying out of his ass as usual

99% of indie games need to be eradicated

>death stranding and last of us 2 aren't coming to ps4 at all
oof imagine that lmao, the perfect way to fuck this generation even more

literally how is this shit even sustainable there's so few worthwhile games coming out lmao, normalfags ruin everything

Oh yes, they will come, and FFVIIR as well. When they release they are going to be vastly inferior versions though.

They will be split gen games. People have been speculating that forever, even outside of the classic "90% of PS5 games will just be PS4 rereleases lol" which is most likely going to be true.

The PS5 is just going to be the Switch and Wii U all over again, they will just get a shit ton of ps4 ports and mediocre exclusives for the first 3 years, with the only worthwhile games being ones they had planned for the prior system

Normalfags are brain dead.

It's clearly just going to include an upscaler so it can output 8k with minimal impact on performance.

Oh ok. My pc shits on this still anyways. Nice attempt at advertising though.

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If he's right, I'm impressed. I haven't bought a console since the 360, but I've been keeping an eye out for 4k blu ray players. I might hold off until I get more info about this

>The PS5 is just going to be the Switch and Wii U all over again
You mean the ps4 right?
Or did you forget how it got nothing but ports until Bloodborne.

>PS3 emulation with 4k upscaling/rendering
I don't get it. Why have the PS5 do the upscaling when every single 4k TV has its own upscaler that is much more advanced than what a non priority feature of a gaming console would be.

There’s no money in the ps4-ps5 rerelease because of BC

>playing games for 12+ hours
Ooohhh... Go outside

>8k
FFs i just bought a decent 4k TV, aren't 8k TVs like $5k?

You're right, I forgot about that. I was ready for hundred PS4 Game: Super 4k Edition releases.

>Backwards comp
>FAST loading screens
>Discs still work!!!

How are these selling points? All of these should be a given.
>8k
Top fucking kek.

So are Microsoft going to pull the trigger on releasing this year to get an edge or not?

On PC your have compression turned on your games will be smaller and as long as you have a semi modern Pentium and a SATA SSD compression is about the same speed as uncompressed

>Backwards compatible
Very believable due to how similar the PS4 architecture is to a PC
>Not releasing in 2019
Also very believable, PS4s are still selling well
>Extremely fast loading screens
This basically just means they put an SSD in it instead of an HDD, which is predictable as fuck
>Physical discs still work
Probably just for BC or copy protection
>Supports 8k
Fucking retarded but Sony is also heavily invested in the movie market so I wouldn't put it past them to make the system capable of outputting an 8k signal just to futureproof it for future movies and shit. No game will be running in 8k on the thing, they'll probably just use their checkerboard upscaling from 4k or something.
>Been in development for 4 years
Obvious

This seems pretty believable all in all. Sounds like your standard mid-tier gaming laptop of 2019 except with 8k video output, which is about what I expect. The fact that it's backwards compatible might make me buy it, since I passed on the PS4 this gen since I'm not buying a console for literally one game (Bloodborne).

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Only backwards compatible with PS4, wake me up when it can do PS3 and before.

They are talking about games internal resolution.

>entire PS3 library
Like what? Talladega nights?

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You realize there's more to your equation than ram speed lol, my CPU has about a 2ghz lead on your PS5 already and my GPU has GDDR6 so your console is obsolete now (as if it wasn't in 2013)

So is any of this from an official Sony press release or is it more ","""leaks"""""

It's from the guy designing the console showing it off to Wired.

Based

ps5 2021
xbox next 2020

most likely

Makes perfect sense.
Sell the base version with an extremily tiny SSD.
Sell overpriced inhouse HDD.
Do not allow third party storage.

Seething harder console fag, I never lost sleep when you guys got the even worse than moblie version of pubg, yet when normal people (not most PC gamers because we got plenty to play) want to give money to the devs you claim are so great you cry like little bitches, go back to worshipping your corporate overlords and spitting in the face of your fellow gamer. Me? I'm go run a game at 144hz

What is 2160p?

>8K
Is there a tv that supports such a thing?

Back in the day devs used to give a shit and wanted people to play their games in the future many games from 2007 have 8K textures and almost every game will look better at higher resolutions because of the higher pixel count

We'll be lucky if it can run native 4k.
It having 8k output is mostly future proofing for when people watch movies in 8k towards the end of its lifecycle.

Giving up your liberty to play on a console, you could just buy a 100$ SSD and a 500$ GPU that will shit all over the PS5

It's cinematic goy.
Also screenshot mode.

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imagine being THIS poor

Wrong
youtube.com/watch?v=AOnj0DRwba0

I straight up didn't know 8K was already a reality. Kinda makes 4K already look like a gimmick

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>1tb ssd
That shit is the same price with ps4 slim in my place. Doubt it will go down that fast.

Had it on my PSP

the sony drone delusional circle will happen again:

-2020, ps5
- 8k, 20 fps
- defended to the death, "fps is ultimately useless, 8k is amazing!" (note: internal resolution was always looked down upon since this moment, now it's great)
- "w-w-w-w-we get to play bloodborne 2 in 12 fps with motion blur!"

- 2023, ps5 pro
- 4k, 60fps (tetris will run on 8k@60)
- "framerate is what always mattered, now sony has a machine stronger than a 2020 pc!" (has bought 2 systems for $1000 so far, which the latter will be obsolete 2 years in, whereas maintaining a top of the line PC costs less than $300 per couple years and is both cheap in the long run and immediately upgraded upon release of new tech, doesn't have to throw away 95% of the hardware)
- "w-w-we get to play a fromsoft game at 60 fps! woah!"

>backward compatible
Oh, I might actually CONSIDER buying this.

>A seething Xcuck actually typed all this out

Time to use that noose you prepped.

Because Sony has had the highest % of BC consoles? PS4 is literally the only exception.

Let’s not kid ourselves, you would have called anything he said shit or else it wouldn’t fit your narrative

Just emulate them later

He's mostly right lol y'all act like PC costs an arm and leg and yet buy the console a d it's variants and pay for their online some of yall claim this is your "hobby" and buy all 3 and their variants then judge my 1300$ PC that shits all over your 3 consoles

They didn't even try. They say it's 15 seconds vs 0.8 because of SSD jew tricks

>ps5
>8k

have you even seen the state of sonys hardware team? it's a fucking shambles. the ps3 was a literal joke, they lucked out with microsoft fucking up the xbox one specs (and by releasing a literal xbox 360 2.0) but then sony fucked up again with the ps4 pro which is a horrible, horrible console in every way. mark cerny is one of the most incompetent hacks in the whole industry.

>It's this shill again
Say Xbone.

>s-shill
>sony apologist calling anyone else a shill

who are you quoting? you should quote yourself, cuck. you want to see my ps4 exclusive library? sony are a joke and this console will bomb if nintendo or microsoft are even remotely competitive next gen just like in 7th gen.

MotorStorm and Pacific Rift

>8k

Yes, lets make videogame dev time even longer

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you now remember sony shut down the motorstorm devs

Never said anything about Sony, you seething shill. Say Xbone.

how could you forget motorstorm 1 and 2 user

Xbox got dabbed on a month ago though

>post about sony
>shill (you) gets asshurt calling other people shill because of post about sony
>basic logic indicates you are mad that sony isn't being mentioned like the 2nd coming of jesus
>gets mad people call xbox one by its brand name

shall i start calling the ps4 the PoS4 as well? if i'm going to do one i'm going to do both.

>ssd hardrive

Wrong. It's already in development.
youtube.com/watch?v=AOnj0DRwba0

Old architectures are too complicated for new employees to work with. Like how Windows is nothing but a big patch over Windows XP/Vista.

I called you a shill because you spat out the usual seething butthurt and called it by its retail name like only Xcucks do. Say Xbone.

It would have to be weaker than the one X to not be able to run a PS3 game in 4K

>I don't know guys. I mean, this could just be a bug. Plus in real life you cannot even see stuff in the distance. Like in a racing game, I don't stop to look at the stuff... I am too busy racing.
holy based

disprove anything i said in that original post. the ps3 was known to be massively overpriced and garbage hardware wise. the ps4 literally was a complete shift for sony and pretty much a copy of the 360, a complete change from their ps3. and the ps4 pro is also a very badly designed console seeing as it's bigger, hotter and louder than its nearest competitor whilst being 40% less powerful. all facts that can be backed up by digital foundry for example.

xbox one.
cope.

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they deserved it after that abortion Motorstorm Apocalypse

>muh few decibel louder fan noise
>runs as cool as the Xbonex does
Back to R*ddit with you.

nigger it was so loud sony released 2 more revisions after the original to decrease the fan noise and even then it was loud enough that people were opening their ps4 pro's to replace with this specific brand of fan off ebay.

t. actually helped a friend change his fan and thermal paste and have done it on my own ps4 og twice

Learn how to read, retard.

>Been in development for 4 years
The fuck are you on about? It's console that uses AMD off the shelf parts. Do they mean that they worked with AMD for four yours?

Imagine spending all that money developing and producing this level of console only to piss off your primary consumerbase at every opportunity and destroy any consumer goodwill your company has

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The wait for Infinite is killing me.

>Halo 6 by Bonnie Ross
hahahahahahahahahah

>primary consumerbase
You mean FIFA players, because they are by far a more solid returning base than weebs are.

is a reality that it will be able to play everything from 1 through 4?
or just PS4 Compatibility?

>Other consoles not so likely, or they'll be curated and selected by per-title basis like the PS2 emu that they have on the store.
>implying a 10tflop machine can't run a cycle accurate ps2 emu

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Nooooo, I need my Switch!

Bonnie Ross never really had much if any involvement with the games.

Consoles need to die. No improvement in the last two decades except muh graphics. Literally a PC but you need to buy a new one and older games won't work on it (backwards compatibility isn't common) instead of just changing some parts from time to time and having every game ever realeased.

You ain't fooling anyone retard, Ps4 pro can't even run DMC V cutscene at a staple 60 Fps

youtube.com/watch?v=4IpW3Pr5aq4

DUUUUUUUDE WHAT IF LIKE... EVERYONE GAMED ON PC HOLY SHIIIIIT

Consoles historically had graphics hardware that could do things consumer PCs did poorly. The Famicom's smooth scrolling in 1983 wasn't matched by any IBM PCs or compatibles until like 1989. Similarly, the 3d capabilities of the N64 in 1996, with its perspective correct 3d textured polygons with texture filtering being out of the reach of all but the most expensive dedicated graphics cards.

I can see the next generation of consoles focusing on smooth 4k and RTX at a more consumer friendly price point than equivalent PC gaming rigs.

What about the games?

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahah

>head of the studio doesn't have any involvement with the games her studio makes
Is this your brain on snoy?

>people still buying sony after last gen
Would it kill you to broaden your horizons? Like just try another platform for once.

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Consoles won't die because of convenience.
Yes I know there are ways to stream your games on your TV but the average consumer won't do that. They'll buy a console that can just play any game made for it no need to worry about specs, then sit on their couch and play.
People who work on computers all day are also much less likely to sit on their chairs to play than on the couch against a big tv.

My PC is Silent (:

Yes consoles used to be inhouse hardware like the PS2 now they are shitty PCs with AMD CPUs and GPUs

It's gonna be some kind of SSD/RAMDrive hybrid.
On boot, it will copy the drive contents to the fast RAM Drive. With a direct Bus to the RAM, it can copy over the contents at 2-2.5GB/s in the background.
As long as the PS4 doesn't lose power, it can hold the data in RAM indefinitely. With an internal battery of some kind, or maybe a Super-capacitor, it could probably hold it for several hours without power.

I know, but these "generations" are becoming more usless everytime. At least this one seems like will be backwards compatible, but your whole system is still becoming obsolete. If PS5 has everything OP pic (on other site I also read ray tracing) says I don't see any need for new generations aside for improving VR.

She just runs the fucking company you dumb fucks, she didn't change the art style that was Kenneth Scott, she didn't fuck the story in the ass, that was Brian Reed. If anything she's actually pretty based compared to some of her employees.

You are drowning in your fanfiction there

I agree casuals will keep consoles alive for atleast a little longer, but they deserve to know that PCs have HDMI ports and steam big picture mode is at least the 2nd best console UI available

>If anything she's actually pretty based
Fuck off Frank, she's not going out with you no matter how many footrubs you give her.

Even then, having less to run in addition to games makes them cost effective for most consumers.

Please stop saying RTX will be on Consoles, the tech is Nvidia exclusive & Consoles are using AMD hardware, by the way it's mid range AMD hardware they are using

Sadly, you're right. The average consumer will just look at the graphics and won't care about anything else.
I hope someday some says "look how good this 32K power point looks".

Frankie is one of the ones I was talking about being unbased.

>P5A is going to be censored

Nigga checkerboard generously-round-it-up-to-8k-still-counts! in some static photomode with 12 meters LOD and 1 model rendered

what's the competition?
>Xbox 360, literally one of the most unreliable piece of hardware in human history. Then advertise their next console as an always online DRM system that spies on you.
>Nintendo. Weak overpriced trash with gimmicks and no 3rd party support. Every gen the same shit.
Sony don't even has to do shit to easily trample all over these 2.

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Oh I see, still in highschool are we?

Microsoft Released a Direct X Raytracing API for both AMD and Nvidia to use, now on PS5 I do not know if it will actually get to use this API but bet Xbox does, nvidia doesn't "own" Raytracing they own the RTX branding, this tech is "old" (not as in obsolete but as been used in Hollywood and shit)

If I put it on sale, will you buy?

You should return to 5 years ago.

>fast loading screens
Woah, snoy will finally introduce SSDs to their poor peasants in 2020? Amazing.
No more 50s+ loading screens.

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DXR is fucking useless, the performance is trash even on a 1080 Ti

The PS4 has nothing to offer besides "muh exclusives" most jap games come to PC or Switch so weebs can't even defend it so the only argument is "it's popular" likely meaning you play with your friends, and that's fine but you and your friends can save up your Christmas money and build PCs about 700$ and you'd be having good fun RN let alone closer to 2020, and you're parents will be happy to see you using your time more wisely as you'll be saving them alot of money and you'll have more games on steam

You are horribly ignorant of how NVRam functions, or the read speed of NVME.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NVDIMM#Backup_power

Everything I said was 100% within the realm of possibility, and fairly inexpensive to do.

Since the PS4 spends 99% of its time in standby ANYWAY, keeping the RAM Drive powered is a small amount of energy, and simple super-capacitors can keep them powered for several hours in an outtage scenario.

If the ram drive is lost, the PS4 can just rebuild it on the next boot, like it would during a power failure anyway, except it will take 5 minutes instead of 1 minute.

You don't even need to make a 1:1 mirror of the hard drive. Just map some space for the OS (say, 8GB) and 56GB for games on a 64GB ram drive. Even old, cheap DDR3 ram is faster than an SSD.

You're right, I shouldn't use RTX and a generic for raytracing. Still, it doesn't seem outside of the realm of possibility to include a dedicated GPU for raytracing.

I agree that RTX cards are designed for it with those RTX Cores, and the consoles are gonna be shit at it, my guess it AMD Navi cards are gonna have to have dedicated hardware for DXR but will the consoles get the same treatment? Naw

>The PS4 has nothing to offer besides "muh exclusives" most jap games come to PC or Switch so weebs can't even defend it so the only argument is "it's popular" likely meaning you play with your friends, and that's fine but you and your friends can save up your Christmas money and build PCs about 700$ and you'd be having good fun RN let alone closer to 2020, and you're parents will be happy to see you using your time more wisely as you'll be saving them alot of money and you'll have more games on steam
It's cheap as fuck and tech illiterate retards can just plug it in to a TV and play without needing to "configure" anything.

And have a cheap notebook / smartphone to use the internet.

>unnecessarily going for 8k
>still not openly admitting VR is for pr0n
>not focusing on FHD@60FPS
PS5 is DEAD before it even started.

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It is for $500

>>unnecessarily going for 8k
You don't understand how marketing works.
When you release the same shit over and over again like Iphones, you HAVE TO make a bold claim with something "new and exciting" to attract retards and MAKE THEM PAY. Even if it doesn't fucking work properly at all.

8k, my ass.
There will be 8k photo mode for 8k screenshots and that's about it, mark my words.

CUTTING EDGE REVOLUTIONARY NEVER BEFORE SEEN TECHNOLOGY

You are probably right but I just want an imouto simulator.

Sony might bank on it and sell at a loss like they did with the PS3, and hope that the install base of the PS4 carries them.

Or we might see 4k and 8k in games without raytracing support, and raytracing limited to 1080p titles to reduce the burden. It still seems plausible if they're really trying to have a serious impact in a next gen "wow factor" way.

That's the argument for consoles in general tho, i mean what does the PS4 offer directly vs its competitors, why wouldn't you want an xbox one X for the power alone when they have nearly the same library?

A single tweet sent Yea Forums into a tizzy.

AMD doesn't have any ray tracing tech, the GPU division got gutted a while ago

facepalm.png of your choice

>3
bloodborne is one, what are the other 2?

The fist of the north star game made by the Yakuza devs is the only game Playstation has that I lose sleep over and its not worth spending 400$ on lol

>Dreams is finally out
>Bluepoint basically confirming Demon's Souls complete
>Days Gone less than two weeks away
>Death Stranding presentation is four days after that
>Insomniac teasing another Ratchet & Clank
>GG indirectly confirming Killzone V
>Horizon: Zero Dawn 2 already far into production
>God of War week
>PS5 info dump
All this news is so sudden. What's happening?

All these things are positive but days gone is gonna be ass

Hahahahahaha Xcucks are fucked. I love it. Screeching bastards gotta wait another two months for crumbs.