Negative Reviews

>price their game lower
if you price your game lower you get less profits

game priced at $60 with 30% Steam's cut = publisher gets $42 per sale
game priced at $50 with 12% EGS cut = publisher gets $44 per sale

what price are you more likely to buy the same game at, $60 or $50?

>if they exclude absolutely all reviews, including those that aren't review bombs, then yeah that's pretty fucked
They do you fucking retard, why are you defending them without even knowing how the thing works?
If the system detects a lot of negative reviews in a short period of time then ALL reviews in that time period are thrown out.
What if the game changes a lot because the devs did something stupid and pissed off the entire player base
Under the new law that doesn't count as legit reviews.
>however most negative reviews removed during the review bomb period aren't going to have that big of an impact on the game's overall score if the game is like 96% positive anyway,
>So if we just like remove all the negative reviews then like the game has a positive score anyway
Wow, genious, did you come up with that on your own?

>so this is a better solution than allowing these emotionally-driven reviews affect the game score.
I rather see those right off the bat to know if the company did something to piss people off or not, after which I check on if it still applies to the current game or not.
For the customer, negative reviews are important.
But who cares about the consumers, right?

man, you're stupid

are you going to put your game exclusively on epic

>game priced at $50
too bad 99% of the market share is still forced to pay $60

no, it's already released on Steam, but because EGS cut is only 12% as opposed to Steam's 30%, I'll be pricing it at $8, as opposed to $10 on Steam once EGS becomes available to all devs

in other words, people that haven't got the game yet will be able to get the same game for less, while I get the same amount of money per each sale on EGS

>i have nothing to respond with after getting BTFO
>better call him names
hmm

metro: exodus sells for $50 on EGS in the US as opposed to $60 while it was available on Steam.
you can come up with as many straw arguments as you can, but the point still stands, and one game has already used the smaller cut per sale to their advantage of pricing the game lower :)

>arguing with an emotional fanboy
>btfo
nah, the only things I hear from him are "2k bad because they dared to defy Steam", so there's no point in arguing since that's the crux of what every brainless fanboy repeats ad infinitum

They have to price it the same everywhere. Their website, stores, steam, etc.

They can't charge $50 at epic and $60 everywhere else. Many countries have laws against that, and the countries that don't then the platforms themselves will just ban you from selling games there, and you lose millions of customers.

well that's fucking ridiculous

Reviews that don't talk about the game are removed. Amazon would also remove a review for a TV if you were talking about a different TV than the one listed.

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>nah, the only things I hear from him are "2k bad because they dared to defy Steam"
Okay now go on and point out where I said anything close to that, or even mentioned 2k.
Go on I'l wait. But the reality is that you are literally creating a strawman right now because you don't have an argument.
also lol at the "fanboy" you know to call me that you need to point out what I am a fanboy of at least.
But then again you are in damage control and just throwing around words.

Not really, imagine you're a store selling a product, (And it's direct selling, so you pay cost of housing the product and marketing, but the manufacturer pays you a percent of the sale) and you discover that the products maker made a special deal with your competitor to sell the product for cheaper in their store, but you still have to sell it for more expensive in your store.

You'd kick the company and their products to the street and tell them "If you like my competitor so much, go earn all your money from them"

steam already fixed reviewbombing

I'm not making any arguments I'm shilling my video

>metro: exodus sells for $50 on EGS in the US as opposed to $60 while it was available on Steam.
It also pissed those who bought the game for $60 and Europeans off.
When you're selling a game, you do not want to piss off your customers

>full price in every country other than the US
Pricing it at $50 probably pissed off more people than it made happy

Not exactly, it only really applies if the two stores are competing for the same customers, i.e. the people who can go to both stores.
But yes, that applies to Steam and EGS.

The problem with steam reviews is the rating system. It's basically either 5 star or 1 star so the only people who review it are the ones who really fucking love it or really fucking hate it.
That's why a vocal minority can skew review scores so much.

>steam only decided to curb on review bombing after the chinese attack on taiwanese games

You realize most people hate epic for pushing for exclusivity right? No one's giving the outward devs shit for having the game on steam and EGS at the same time, people just don't want to use EGS and when they're forced to use EGS or wait a year or 6 months for a game to not be exclusive they take out the frustration on the devs. People don't think devs are cunts for looking for a better cut, they're cunts for enabling the idea that 3rd party devs can be bought into exclusivity arguments and doing so on a platform that is strictly inferior to several platforms including origin and uplay just makes things worse.

Personally I would rather pay more money than give EGS any, their client is shit, their security is shit and Tim Sweeney puts more time and effort into buying exclusives than having a product that people want to use, is sucks that's where the money is for devs but I have no interest in supporting that store financially until EGS sorts its shit out.

>strictly inferior to several platforms including origin and uplay just makes things worse.
how can you be fucking worst than origin

By being EGS or the windows store (UWP makes denuvo look like a godsend). It's like they saw the motto 'if you build it they will come' and said fuck that shit I'll make them come without building anything.

Are you an actual fucking brainless? Sure seems like it.

The system is in place for anything that is an outlier from normal review trafficking. If a game is just released, it's not gonna be forced into that position.

If a game is recently updated, the system will look for any keywords staring anything in blog post or in the reviews themselves.

I'm sure the system isn't perfect, and I know we will see it have some hiccups without a doubt, but quit being so fucking blissfully ignorant when somebody tells you how something works.

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The one that's on steam, because I'm not interested in losing my account the next week to some chink trying to steal my credit card info.

>Are you an actual fucking brainless? Sure seems like it.
>continues to damage control
okay fagit

I seriously hope that tweet was a fucking joke

What do you mean continues?

I have not spoken to you once nigger, and yet you talk like you just had a full blown conversation with me.

Are you okay, do you need some help? Yea Forums ain't for everyone, even for some of the autistic.

If business decisions of developers/publishers affect a person's decision making process when deciding whether to buy a game, then why shouldn't that topic be fair game in a review of the product? Are you afraid that the vocal minority that's angry (and informed) enough to vocalize their anger might sway people who otherwise wouldn't have known about what ever issue reviewers are upset about? I see assertions that review bombing is unfair as both blatantly wrong and blatantly self-serving.

What's the name of your game, internet tough guy?

Not always
Sometimes it only means that some people want to see the world burn
Search any smt game on metacritic and tell me why a few people sperging out about something should affect an entire series
Before someone jumps to conclusions, that happened before the Catherine Full Body thing and Joker in smash

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So you're saying customers should be silenced in the name of selling games that "ought" to be selling? No other industry asks for customers to be disallowed from publishing their reviews in hopes that no reviews is better than bad reviews. Why does the video game industry alone deserve this privilege?

And why is the video game industry so fragile? Nike gets eviscerated for their business practices and they still sell shoes because their shoes do the job, even if they're made by little slave kids in china. Video games that are fundamentally good should be able to survive review bombing over far less substantial complaints. Well, I know the answer to that question. The video game market is flooded and one is about as good as another. People already have 100+ games in their backlog so they don't need much incentive not to buy your game. So you're really just mad that review bombing prevents people from making impulse purchases? I don't feel much sympathy for you.

Nah, just the off-topic reviews
Having bad reviews is really important when they actually talk about the game
If any retard can shit on Nocturne without any reason besides showing how big your e-peen is he needs to neck themself and it shows how metacritic is a flawed system in this state
Shit on Nocturne as much as you want, but give me a good reason to avoid it
metacritic.com/game/playstation-2/shin-megami-tensei-nocturne

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There’s a difference between a recent game patch breaking shit and the next game in the series being on a different store .