Guild Wars 2 or FF14

GW2 is total garbage, as theme park and bland as FF14 can be it dwarfs that utter garbage.

14 is boring and gw2 is slow on updates

i disagree, gw2 is a good mmorpg, but it has shitty endgame.

I wish FFXIV had GW2 mechanics. The combat in FFXIV is dogshit and the content in GW2 is worthless.

Both shit Try Warframe

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It is F2P

>people hating gw2 only because it's "not muh"

>gw2 is slow on updates
It was bad before but it's worse now that a quarter of the staff got let go. No more expansions, all Living Story now.

The plus side is we might get more creative content now that they can't just keep making up new areas of the map no one cares about. The latest maps have been absurdly huge and empty.

the maps are a disaster anyway, like who thought metaevents were a good idea?
i'd just wish they`d hurry the fuck up on the living storys. its like 6 months+ for 1 chapter

GW2, the story is interesting enough to deserve playing the core content and it's free. GW2's biggest flaw is that there was no progression in the end game, until ascended armour came out the set you could get within about 3-4 hours of playtime was your BIS forever. If you're just trying out the game the new maps won't affect you since you'll likely drop it before then.
The issue with FF14 is that it's fucking boring and there's nothing that makes you feel like you should be spending your time and money on the game, it suffers the curse of subscription-MMO's that there's just better games on the market at a much cheaper price with much better gameplay.

Guild wars 2 was so bad i never wanted to get excited or play an mmo every again

HoT maps and their meta events were great though.
The complex z layer maps where a great addition to mmos in general I always had fun pushing through dragon's reach.

pvp in gw2 really is cancer

Heart of Thorns metas are basically all the endgame content I do now. The PoF ones and LS ones are trash.

I just want more maps like Dragon's Stand.

Haven't played GW2 for some time now.
Still love the dodging though

Classic.

FFXIV is free till lv35, subscription based after that
GW2 is free till lv50 buy-to-play after that

both have great soundtrack and decent art direction
XIV also has a good story, endgame and frequent updates
as for gameplay:

The problem with GW2 is that it is just way too easy and braindead even by the low, modern MMO standards. Leveling feels extremely unrewarding and weightless and there is no real endgame either to make the mindless grinding feel more impactful.
The reason the game got such a good reception is really just because for it's price (and no subscription fees) it has good production values and a lot of content, but all of that just feels wasted on weak game design.

XIV starts out slowly in the first 20 or so levels, but after that it starts to ramp up, gameplay and story too. You should probably reach lv35 in the free trial and see if it is up to your liking.

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Heard City of Heroes is pretty good

i'm primarily an ESO player but i sometimes log onto GW2 to play pvp, it's really arcade-y, builds are very simple.

It was tolerable before the expansions came out. But yeah, it's as been nothing but cancer ever since.

GW2 if you just want something casual to play. It struggles with lack of direction, but feels good mechanically. No sub is great. Recent staff cuts might actually help. Rumor is most of the studio were cucking GW2 for some now-cancelled side projects (mobile).

FF14 if you are willing to pay a sub in exchange for a dungeon treadmill with decent RP fluff like housing.

I actually like FF14 more

gw2 is an abomination. Do yourself a favour and never touch it. If you want a good guild wars play 1. It's still active and soooooo much better. Fuck anybody who worked on gw1. If you must though play ff14. Good game after 100h.

>Shit servers
>Shit pvp
>Shit performance
lol

it's ok to have shit taste but stop spreading it

all wrong, except servers.

>Good game after 100h
what the fuck

>all wrong
go ahead and tell us your experience in Cyro during rush hour.
And what is memory leak which brings down the even best rigs unto its knees.

Warframe is overrated garbage played by zoomers that feel like they are too intellectual to play Fortnite like their lesser peers.

F2p GW2 has no level cap. All the vanilla content is free with some limitations placed on your ability to send messages/mail and use the trading post.

wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Account#Limitations

I really don't see a gameplay difference between these tab-MMOs. What is this hidden layer of depth that supposedly makes FFXIV better?

Good PvE content based on holy trinity. Not a GW2 clusterfuck.

both are shit
play wow

>GW2 is free till lv50 buy-to-play after that
What? That's not true at all. It's f2p allt he way up to max level. I don't remember if core Tyria mysteries are locked behind Heart of Thorns but I think those are f2p as well.

ESO, or FF

Avoid GW2

...aaand wowfags come out of the woodwork. Nobody wants to play your shitty game anymore, not even diehard wowfags.

GW2 has better gameplay and rewards players for skill and class knowledge, encounters usually never play the same because it's heavily movement based and you can play wildly different builds on the same class to great effect if you know what you're doing. Level design is also easy 9/10, puts single player games to shame sometimes, which is a stark contrast to FFXIV where areas are all hallways or bowls with nothing special about them.
FFXIV is a better game if you're a complete casual and don't want to get into it, because the skill cap is incredibly low but still feels like you're working because there are a lot of buttons to push for incredibly rudimentary things. You play the UI most of the time, since any movement mechanics need to be forgiving as fuck because the game has built in lag to make the PS3/4 players feel less bad about playing on their parent's unprotected wifi. Content updates are very regular but 8/10 times are just fetch quests with walls of badly written text and engine rendered silent cutscenes. GW2's content updates are irregular as fuck (and far and few between) but when they do deliver they go all in with new maps, new mechanics, fully voice acted characters, etc.

tl;dr GW2 is a better game but you need to really want it, FFXIV will feel better if you just wanna go through the motions and need to keep yourself occupied while you get high

I wish we got more map metas like silverwastes where they're player driven rather than timer driven. It's so depressing entering a map and ignoring the meta because I didn't log on at the right time. SW is still fun to this day because I can port in, start doing shit, and EVENTUALLY people will trickle in and the meta will progress faster then the mordrem can take back the bases. I feel like I'm actually contributing, not just waiting for a timer.

FFXIV is currently the least worst popular mmo available. Decent time to start out since by the time you finish most of the current 'end game' content then shadowbringers will be nearly out.

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GW2 meta mostly revolves around having kiters/tanks, dps and healers/buffers. Maybe you shouldn't shit-talk about things you haven't played?

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I miss original GW. Was pretty good. Get to max level and best equipment instantly so dont need to grind unless you want better “looking” stuff and optional cosmetics. The dungeons and areas were interesting and I actually preferred the instanced world system. Made me think of diablo 2 online.

I played your shitty game from the day it released, you fucking faggot and I know what I'm talking about. GW2 PvE content IS and always WAS a clustefuck. Just because they've recently realized how fucked up the game without HT is and they've added "tanks" (chronomancers lol) and "healers" (stack and get healed by autoheal auras lol) doesn't mean the main core mechanics of the game are terrible. Just "evade" it bro, just spam invulnerability bro, just keep them guardian auras up bro. Great gameplay.

aren't terrible*

>evade is bad+spammable
>invulni is spammable
>"auras" are unique and specially meaningful to GW2
Just stop spouting shit, monkey.

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Seems like you're the one who doesn't play ShitWars 2

invuln is spammable, user. Chrono and Firebrand have been ez mode for all PvE content for a while now.

ff14.
GW2 sucks.

duno, my problem with metamaps are that they are shit easy, and the only reward you get is the same kind of trashbags you get everywhere else.
you can basicly go afk and still complete them because the whole maps are overloaded. they would do better if the metamaps were actual group content

It's actually okay, weirdly enough.
Sure, fans of the original games are gonna seethe hard (I sure did) but it certainly does a lot of unique things compared to the competition.
No sub fee also helps.

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I want to love ESO lads because I've always like the Elder scrolls but its just... shit. The combat has no weight to it, feels like im fighting with foam swords, the graphics are bland and the story is forgettable. I really did want to love it but its just fucking boring.