Sekiro help thread

I don't think I can do it Yea Forumsros, he's just too much ;_;

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I'm still getting my shit pushed in by Ashina Genichiro but I'm getting better. Soon I will be... GUD.

I would love a boss rush mode for this game

you just gotta git gud at parrying. i actually did both snake eyes and 7 spears before him and they forced me to become amazing at it.

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Tips for Owl? Genichiro was nothing compared to this imo. Only tried him a few times but getting absolutely stomped.

owl is honestly pretty simple, as he doesnt have a huge amount of moves. remember to dodge the lloyd's bomb and exploit his big overhead slash he does after throwing 2 stars.

don't thrust.

Well, I'm at Owl 2 phase 2 in NG+, didn't do him or Demon last game so I'm finishing the job.
I really don't see what the fuss is about, I mean sure he's tough but Owl 2 is definitely easier than 1, his openings are a lot more obvious and you don't have to deal with the anti heal bomb or his stupid stomp-backflip-shuriken posture rape/stall nearly as much.

Having a lot of difficulty with him too. Having Genichiro before his is fucking bullshit. Sometimes I beat him no issue and sometimes I just suck. Genichiro though I don't really know how to deal with.

Meant Isshin I don't know how to deal with

stop treating genchiro as a human and treat him like lanky kong or bull. it helps.

Genichiro always does the Mortal Blade attack first, so run up behind him and get some free damage in. Get up in his face and spam out attacks, throwing out a deflect only after he deflects. Near everything he does can be interrupted. When he does the jump attack that can't be interrupted, you gotta look real carefully if the follow-up is a regular attack, a thrust, or a sweep. Most of the time it is a thrust. When he does the flurry attack, back off and regen your posture.

Oh oops

You know what's pretty cool though, is blasting the Metal Gear Rising OST during the final battle. Makes it extra kino.

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Where is the mod to replace Sekiro with Jin.

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People still playing this game?

I guess I just need to learn his move set. He just hits so fucking hard. Kills your poise and health pretty quickly and has good range.

I have yet to finish it

Just parry him. It isn't hard. Stop mashing buttons and running around like an asshole and just use the mechanic the game is built around. It's not like he has anything unique, all his moves are taken from enemies you'e already had to beat to get here. I don't understand how so many people can get to this boss but then not be able to beat him. How did you beat the other bosses?

yes, nothing is more kino than low-tier buttrock

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>Die to Genichiro like 15 times without dragon rot
>suddenly get like 7 rot essences all at once
>Beat Genichiro in the next attempt

This game sometimes

Disagree. It's worth it to dodge his jump attacks to get in the free hits to lower his vitality.

I need to finish NG+7 hard mode first.

To be fair he does have a shitton of moves. Yeah, block correctly and that'll work, but there's a sense of panic to the whole fight

Legit advice:
All bosses in sekiro can be "pressured" to do moves you want them to do. They all follow a specific algorithm which is a lot more refined than older fromsoft games. This means all of them, including isshin, can be predictable and easily punishable. You just have to dedicate your time trying to understand his moveset first before trying to kill him. Same with any boss. After you master it, you won't even get hit by anything this guy throws.

I sprinted around and hit him during double shuriken>overhead slash and debuff ball openings for both phases. I was drunk, beat him on the second try and felt empty afterwards.

Just killed him today myself.

You can do it, user.

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Are any of the tools other than firecrackers worth trying to use on Isshin?

Emma says she does it for her master.

Why does Isshin want you to dick around his grandson?

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Literally how
I can't get past his first phase. I get him to about 75% guard break and I fuck up and die

His first phase is easiest, it's phase 2 that fucked me over constantly.

Isshin is a pressure fight. You should be swinging at him literally every chance you get. First phase especially. Remember to side step his Ichimonji strikes since deflecting them might cause him to do an Ashina Cross. Second phase is equal amounts pressure and deflecting. Most of his spear combos end with either a sweep or a thrust so definitely work to read which for Mikiri counters. Third phase is piss easy due to his over reliance on lightning moves. Lightning reflection is your friend here.

practice perfect parrying him, and make sure you're hitting him until he starts perfect parrying you. enemies lose lots of posture when they block the first few hits, but after that it makes a louder clang and they start perfect parrying which makes attacking them while they're guarding very useful when done in bursts.

>die to HE in his last phase with 1 thrust attack left in his hp
>eat shit at phase 2 the next 10 attempts

god damn it. glad i finally got him.

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People saying this game is easier than soulsborne are absolutely out of their minds. Orphan of Kos is a fucking joke compared to Lady Butterfly.

>almost all attacks against you do 50-80% of your HP
>bosses/mini-bosses take twice as many hits and sometimes have two healthbars
>dodge is nerfed to shit
>enemies have wildly different amounts of attacks each with a specific thing you need to do to counter, unlike in souls where you can just dodge everything
>you don't really gain anything that levels the playing field, most of the tools are just nerfed spells
>no summoning or overleveling if you're really stuck

I beat him today after getting my ass kicked on Saturday and Sunday, died like 40 times or something like that.

His first phase is easy and you can make him not take out the Lance during Phase 2.

>keep pressure on him, hit him until he parries you, block immediately to parry him back and keep hitting, repeat
>if he steps back he may do a dangerous thrust attack, just time it and Mikiri the fucker
>if he sheathes the katana, run around and wait for his two slash movies, then go back to punishing him
>if he holds the katana up high, dodge behind him and punish him

For phase 3, you can run and punish. His posture gets higher with every parry you do so try moving away from his most powerful attacks (ashina arts) and parry the weak ones. The one where he jumps and hits the floor, just dodge that and wait for the 2 hit follow up, those are easy to parry.

He has a thrusting attack on phase 3 as well, easy to Mikiri and cause a lot of posture damage.

Do you have the full image of that?

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You can deflect + counterattack him (cutting him and interrupting him) faster than he can continue his standard 1-2-3-4 sword combo. The counterattack seems to come out extra fast against him and he doesn't / can't block it.
Also during a lot of your attacks, you can delay your swing very slightly instead of just attacking as fast as possible and it will allow you to catch him in the middle of a windup or a jump-away move. And you can also swing as he is approaching you from already close range, right as he is starting to swing his sword; you will swing yours slightly faster and will again interrupt his attack. Depends on the move though

Orphan of Kos was extremely easy, you could come in and cheese him with being prepared with good gems but I can agree with Butterfly

If you take the same approach and consider Butterfly as an optional boss to fight until after Horse dude she becomes so much easier

Owl 2 is easier than Owl 1.
You can play safe in first phase and his second phase has so many opening it a cakewalk.

personally i got some use out of torching him with flame vent

burn status at the start of each phase gives a bit of breathing room without letting his posture tick back up before you knock down his vitality enough

i also got tilted and upgraded to an azurite axe just for him, but it just felt like i was paying spirit emblems for an ichimonji with no posture recovery.

Literally just press L1 and R1 and stop trying to dodge.
t. beat Butterfly charmless bell

I watched a video of Orphan of Kos and he looks 10x harder because of how fast his attacks are, the aggression, and the projectile spam. It doesn't look like you have defensive options in Bloodborne whereas in Sekiro knowing how to perfect parry makes you the most unstoppable god even level 1 with no upgrades.

Someone should mod in the Champloo ost, would be amazing. Not me though, too lazy.

>if he sheathes the katana, run around and wait for his two slash movies, then go back to punishing him
You can actually deflect this and get a couple of hits in. Press L1 when you see the second glint on his sword (first one is when he sheathes it). It's 2 slashes so you need to press deflect 2 times.

Popping in to say don't do what I did, don't fight the Ape before the Monk. The game just throws another bullshit boss at you if you do.

As other anons said, just practice. Just learn how to perfect parry his attacks or at worst just block them. Also learn which attacks you can counterattack after parrying so you can trade blows which really helps building posture damage. His second and third phases lack some of the trades but they still exist.

Godspeed and good luck, I believe in you user. He's more fun than Genichiro once you figure out all his attacks, just harder is all.

Honestly I can't even conceive of using prosthetics on him. I'm so focused on swordplay that I can barely remember to pop an Ako's Spiritfal from time to time.

You will understand once you git gud. Unlimited attack / movement stamina + being able to extremely easily block or deflect 100% damage from almost any enemy attack makes the game comparatively easy vs Souls / BB.
IGN's review said it first, and everyone thought they were crazy, but the longer you play the more you realize it's true: the game really is easier.
And then there's the whole revive system too

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You do have defensive options in Bloodborne though, it's called the dodge with extremely generous iframes that works against literally every single attack in the game. And even Kos, an end game optional boss only does liek 50% of your HP at most to which you have 20 healing items, compared to Sekiro where early game minibosses do 70% attacks and you have 3 healing goards. Also OoK aggressive? Lmao he does like one or two attacks at a time, some of the enemies in Sekiro do chain attacks that you have to perfectly parry each one or die instantly. Oh man I can only imagine how much worse it gets later on.

When he does his sheath + warning symbol and does the forward slash, NOT the thrust, is there a way to miriki/jump counter it? I usually just run away and make a big loop around him.

Not really. I was able to beat DS1 and 3 with relative ease compared to Sekiro. I'm fighting Sword Saint right now and I've been stuck here for days. I beat Soul of Cinder on my 2nd attempt.

youtube.com/watch?v=DAweYXFqHZ8 You can do it. Look at how shit I am at this game and I managed to beat him.

How hard is lady butterfly really? I just got her to half her hp of her second phase, but I don't have pellets anymore. Are those green bean things an absolute must?

If you run around for a bit when she summons the ghost boys they'll eventually despawn.

If you're rolling with High Monk, you can use it to completely dodge both parts of the attack and deal some heavy posture damage. If you havent unlocked High Monk then just dodge left and behind him twice when he uses each part of the attack to get behind him and use a charge attack on his back. You can also parry the dash and then jump on his head since he always uses the sweep directly after, I hope this helped and don't give up Shinobi!

>easier than a game where you can level up and kill bosses in 3 hits and/ or literally have another person do a fight for you

you are legit retarded

No. Just attack her and dodge the butterfly bullshit. She's a tutorial boss to see if you understand the game's mechanics.

Hesitation is defeat user

Hmmm, didn't know that, thanks user.

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I saw a few of fags bitching about how Owl Dad is harder than Isshin Prime, clearly they don't know how to Mikiri his Shadowrush.
Also I FUCKING DID IT NOW WHO'S THE DAD YOU OLD FUCKING BIRD, I DIDN'T EVEN GIVE UP A REZ

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SSI took me about an hour of attempts

but i'd rather fight a version of SSI with twice as much vitality/posture than ever try to beat pic related again

it's all subjective, is the point of this post

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>easier than souls
t.review from someone that didn't even reach Genichiro

I just need to beat old Isshin to get the trophy for beating all bosses. I think he's harder than sword saint.

sounds easy in theory but you have to play absolutely perfectly in sekiro or you will get two shot, even souls/BB is more forgiving since its gameplay is more simple

It really is easier in my opinion, Sekiro is simply based entirely on faster reactions than the ones you had in Souls/Bloodborne. From what I've found the best way to fight most of the bosses in Sekiro is by tapping the deflect button and counter attacking as is available. Building posture by doing deflects is the best way to kill almost everything and so you have to learn deflection timings on each enemy, it's like learning dodge timings for Souls enemies but by doing it right you can actually do damage from it.

Literally mash L1 and R1, she goes down like a bitch. If you don't have snap pods, just run around and jump around her apparitions until they vanish.

You are probably not parrying everything and are trying to dodge like you do in the Souls games you are used to.
Stop dodging and start parrying everything.
Dodging behind them and cutting them is good if you really know the move and the timing for it, but its much less safe than deflecting, and its only even useful at the start of the fight because vitality damage is only important in this game for making the posture bar easier to fill up. Killing a tough, skilled enemy (one who blocks and parries) via pure vitality damage takes forever.
Also don't mash dodge like dark souls roll-spam, just hit it once and hold it to continue it and run away.

I found DaS3 to be the hardest Soulsborne game by far, I've never even beaten Gael or Midir.

I actually agree with this post desu
game is a cakewalk once you really get it
t. doing bell demon/charmless and an "SL1" run

He's startling at first because he's so fast and because a handful of his moves are option selects based on how you react. Which, I might add, is fucking cool and I wish more bosses relied heavily on it. SSJ Isshin does it too but on not nearly as many moves.

just around a bit whenever she spawns these, try to kill a few ones that get in your way, when she starts sucking these for her kamehameha just keep running in circles around the arena

Also something I learned at, like, SSI is that if you hold your guard you recover posture faster than just standing or running around normally. After I learned that the game became a lot easier.

Better advice; when he sheaths for his patented Ashina Cross get closer to him, he does this pommel check that you can parry then he immediately sweeps which you can stomp because you know it's coming. Another user told me that and I never dealt with the Cross ever again. Also if he strafes off to your right he's probably gonna thrust, Mikiri it.
There, now you know both his Perilous moves, practice and you'll be bitching about phase 2/3 in no time

do it fagget

You can still get pretty far in the game by just attacking every once and a while and blocking/parrying in neutral. I feel like Isshin for many people is the realization of how attack pressure forcing out a deflect counter is how the entire game was meant to be played. Some people don't know what that is though or aren't confident in their ability to determine he enemy's deflect vs block

I wish phase 3 was a bit harder. No need to use Genichiro's cheap lightning tricks, Isshin!

Why didn't Ishi just fuck Emma raw instead of dealing with all the political bullshit. Dude just narey Emma, leave the country and get pussy.

Can you actually kill giganto snake in the canyon the first time you go through it? I just stabbed the thing in the eye and booked it out of there.

Is it possible to farm pellets early game? Merchants have limited supply, I have only beaten the horse dude and I am stuck at the drunk dude in the past

Midir has to be one of the toughest battles in the entire series i'll give you that but i feel Gael was a let down

fuck Friede though

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it's not even reaction times. You can have slow as shit reaction times and play this game fine. All you have to do is learn the enemy/boss moveset and you will recognize the patterns, attack-sequences and behaviors so well that you can anticipate the fastest attacks before they even start, just because you see the enemy is at a certain range and moving towards you a certain way.
Since the parry window is so generous and you still block 100% damage if you mess it up while mashing it, the game lets you experiment to find out what a new enemy's moves are without always having to die to them, too.

Anyone play hard more on NG+?
Saint Isshin phase 2 spear combo mean instant death for me.
Is there a way to manipulative his moveset so he dont throw that combo?

No. Only way to kill it is way later in the game.

I think the pattern for phase one isshin is three attacks then he parries and does a delayed casual underhand swing
If you keep on him he will get like a single chance to do Ashina Cross and a single chance at his quick lunge, which isn't that hard to mikiri.

Pop a possession balloon, and go farm Ashina levies. I think just about any enemy has a chance to drop them.

Ah alright. Thanks.

I broke down and looked at a guide and now I'm upset I missed Owl 2 on my first playthrough. Oh well NG+ it is.

Yeah having to fucking hold still while he charged his post-sweep GATSU slash was nerve racking, "do I go all out or just try to measure a deflect?"

that's one of the first tutorial prompts after you get your sword

i didn't like how some tutorials were buried in fighting your living training dummy though. i don't think doing a jump kick into a sweep attack for posture damage is ever told to you otherwise.

Perfect parrying Ashina Cross is big dick stuff. Its much more reliable to run right up to his side, cause he'll get pissed and do a dodgeable shoulder bash followed by an easy mikiriable lunge. He doesn't let Ashina Cross rip if you're too close.

what combo, this one?

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I agree, the deflection timings are way more forgiving. I was remembering the fast roll timings and, while I could be wrong, they were always even more generous. The iframes were always kinda insane.

When fighting this guy you have to put your self in his mindset.
You have to understand were this man is coming from you have to have your back too the wall

This a ZERO SUM FIGHT!!!
Go big or go home,You have to rise to the moment............If not then get the fuck outta here,

You don't deserve to fight him and he know's it!

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let me help you.

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They had a video on their channel where one of their staff beat Genichiro in his FIRST FIGHT. The one where you don't have revives, prosthetics, arts, health-ups, nothing but a dinky gourd seed. If they can pass the first stage of a mid-game boss at the beginning, difficulty really is relative.

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I don't remember that tutorial at all, I think I had souls-itis and just thought I knew everything before playing the game.But if it's part of the tutorial then there's no excuse, it's a good trick

Yes without kuro charm and demon bell mean instant death and i not good enough to defleck all that spear move.

I wish health upgrades weren't such a fucking lie
>0 health breads
>basic enemy does 20% health bar damage
>7 health breads
>same enemy does 20% health bar damage

Attack Attack Deflect! Attack Attack Deflect! Attack Attack Deflect! Shuriken, Run forward, Attack Attack Attack Deflect! Attack Attack Deflect! Attack Attack Deflect! Shuriken, Attack Attack Attack, Attack Attack Deflect Deathblow, dance in circles, run up and repeat same as above unless she does her ultra combo, then just run away and goomba at the end since it's always a sweep. GG

Well I finally got to phase two. Died immediately with 0 gourds, but it's progress.

That's too lenient. Second stage should be exactly the same as the first; you shouldn't be giving that witch time to breathe at ALL.

Keep at it brother, I had Genichiro and phase 1 down to a T but man phase 2 really got me for a while. My advice is to just play safe but don't do the run around method, just deflect as much as you can and be careful when making aggressive slashes.

Usually it takes 3 hits for me, if I'm keeping up with prayer beads. Two if one of them was a real heavy hit.
And then there is also the resurrection mechanic which gives you a whole second chance (which can go up to 3 revives) if you fuck up enough to die.

I've been stuck on owl for about a week now it feels like, I understand his moves, I parry and try to punish when there's an open but I still get fucked by one of his combos every damn time. Or he does his mikiri counter on me and I'm fucked... I loved all the soulsborne games but I'm about ready to give up on this. Feels like shit, I guess combat still hasn't "clicked" yet.... Although I feel if you can make it this far into a game and not have the mechanics click, then maybe they're not really well designed mechanics

He shoulda just pulled out the M249 instead
The forbidden ultra Ashina technique

>last hit the centipede fuckers at Senpou with Mortal Draw
>it still doesn't kill them
I tested this out with the zombies in the Abandoned Dungeon too and they still came back once before dying for good

How else are you supposed to kill the centipede priests?
I think I killed the first one I came across about 4 times before giving up and assuming they're unkillable so I thought using the Mortal Blade would be able to kill them for good

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Getting my shit pushed in by Owl (Father) lads.
Got through his 1st phase on my 1st try but the camera always fucks me up whenever he goes invisible owl in the 2nd phase.
Halp.

I can assure you any general with Sekiro would quickly devolve into Kuro shotaposting and rice loliposting, this is an actual discussion of strategy and support

So I'm endgame on first playthrough and got 50k+ Sen.
What is something worth investing it in so I don't end up dying and losing it all?
I used to just dump it all in Divine Confetti or mats for my Prosthetic but I'm on the last tier for them.

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there's a second deathblow prompt that pops up and you can kill them. they still respawn if you rest though

You do a second deathblow to finish the priests for good.

if you can make it far into the game without the mechanics clicking then youre playing the game wrong
This isnt dark souls, theres an intended way to play this game and if you havent grasped it yet, well, its probably just you

backstab them when they're down

>farm levels and become God
>use a shield and become God
>dodge straight through weapons with Iframes
In bloodborne there's videos of people one shotting bosses with certain builds.

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When he goes invisible just run to the other side of the room. Once you hear him attacked turn around and go back at him. A good attack to exploit is the one he throws his owl immediately mikiri afterwards.

Just run/dodge until he reappears, I literally just beat him for the first time myself, also remember to jump then mikiri when he summons fire owl.

unless something's changed since launch week, her AI cannot handle dodge attacks. after every one hits, she'll try to jump away but can't escape your sword.

or at least that's how i remember it.

In my experience she will sometimes still go into her sidewire ultra even when doing that, unless you get her into a corner of course. Its just good to know just in case you botch a string since its not advisable to try and deflect it on reaction when she goes into it since she throws two shurikens and four unblockable butterflies while prepping it.

keep trying OP, always go for the perfect parries and be into his face the entire time

>and i not good enough to defleck all that spear move.
you can do it. It's just a weird one because of the unexpected downswing attacks he does on the 2nd and 4th spear attacks before the thrust. It never seems like he should swing that many times but he does.
Just think of it like he is whirling his spear up->down at you twice, each whirl being made up of two separate hits

See, this is the weird thing about From games, for me Pontiff is fucking easy, but Sekiro (Owl in particular) is beating the piss out of me left and right...

fuck FUCK FUCK WHY IS ISSHIN SO COOL
I WANT AN ANIME ABOUT ISSHIN'S LIFE

Confetti gives you the highest ROI I believe. All my extra money went into confetti. Only ever sold scrap magnetite when I needed money though. Had so much fucking scrap magnetite.

Protip for any fags stuck on Guardian Ape: Oil and Flame vent first phase, Divine Confetti second phase. If you're really having a hard time spear his neck hole when he falls in the second phase. If you time the oil and flame vents well enough first phase it should be done in less than a minute without being hit.

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I'm a the last boss but I've been too busy to put in the time needed to learn his bullshit and push his dumb face in. Next weekend hopefully.

>i loved all the soulsborne games
Again and again, I'm seeing this trend; familiarity of Soulsborne games seems inversely related to competency at Sekiro. How aggressively are you going at him? Do you still find yourself reflexively running away or evading instead of pressing your initiative?

It is the first upward swing broke my posture.
I knows it is stupid to complain about difficult in hard mode when you dont play perfect but i hope there is a way to avoid this combo.

Just got to Ashina Castle and have been ducking around for a bit, am I supposed to be fighting this Seven Ashina Spears guy yet? Because he’s kinda tough, like to the point where I’m not sure if I’m supposed to go somewhere else

Fuck, I have no idea how I keep missing basic shit like this

I think he's cool because he kinda reminds me of my grandfather I'm legit but when i size my self up to him i fall sadly short.

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if he's mikiri countered you more than once, then yes, something hasn't "clicked" for you

owl's got a lot of openings for a few swipes, the most obvious ones are when he throws his "not lloyd's talisman" at you, his huge overhead slice, and when he tries to firecracker you

also most bosses with big mobility like owl can be cucked by fighting them with their back up against a wall.

I get it, but I just can't seem to pull it off... But thanks for being a smug asshole about it!

Reminder to everyone here that both an actual cripple and DSP have beat Sekiro at this point, if they can do it you sure can.

Owl feels like a somewhat dirtier Gen until you realise only one of his attacks can hit you if you run left or right and then smack him with Whirlwind Slash while he's open. You can just firecracker him if he starts charging straight at you faster than you can run, that's the only attack you have to worry about.

You're not Poirot or Holmes for noticing that, dipshit. It's just shitters trying to buy some credibility when they put out their opinion on the game. My favorite game is Bloodborne and I platted this game within a few days and now I can complete a run with all bosses in about 5 hours without rushing.

This, I've never finished a Soulsborne game in my life but I'm on NG+ having just beat Owl 2 without rezzing
This is a MGR/Ninja Gaiden successor

I skipped through the pop-up that told you how to loot enemies by accident. It took quite a bit of lost loot before learned the Shinobi vacuum technique...

yeah that first swing comes at you like a half second later than you'd think it would

I know, i know
Sorry, im actually working on owl myself on ng+ and im frustrated that hes giving me so much trouble, i guess i took it out on you

I've been trying being aggressive and only dodging the smokebomb but he breaks down my posture so fast I still seem to get rekt.

7 spears is possibly the hardest miniboss in the game but he's amusingly weak to just repeatedly jumping on his head and attacking him on the way down.

>Shonen protagonist only he fucking murders people and is objectively not a morally upstanding guy to anyone outside of his posse
>Young(er) Owl, young babe Phantom Butterfly, young Orangutan and Kingfisher all come in and out of his adventures
>Comfy sake drinking scenes and awesome scenes of Isshin developing the Ashina arts
I'd like it

>7 spears is possibly the hardest miniboss in the game

never understood this meme. spear boys are pretty free, if only because of the mikiri counter.

>Mikiri him
>He actually shoves you back and has a mixup of three different followups
>He charges a thrust
>If you go full retard and spam mikiri early he delays it and it turns into an attack grab stab that does fucking massive damage
>When you backstab him at the start of the fight he gives a jolly ass laugh like he's an excited old boomer who gets to put a zoomer down
He's great

It was Bussi, not Orangutan. Orangutan didn't build the prosthetic and it's not possible to drink sake and build a prosthetic at the same time with one arm.

I got stuck for like half an hour trying to figure out where I was supposed to go next because I failed to see the grapple point above the dried serpent viscera

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All good user, I'm admittedly a bit salty myself... 2 of my friends have beaten the game already, and I seem to be miserably struggling my way through, and no matter what I do it's just not coming together for me...

I don't WANT to give up, but it's becoming less and less fun to keep getting my ass kicked. I want to like this game, I've made it this far but, at a certain point I gotta wonder if I should bother.

7 spears has a bunch of other unblockables besides thrust and he can counter your mikiri which takes a minute to get used to

Mikiri doesn't work on him. I mean you can do it but he shoves you off.

I fucking hate the Mikiri Counter mechanic and am terrible at it. It goes against my every instinct to just stand there and hope the counter works when I press it

Oh there was a way out? I just Homeward Idol'd out.

It works if his health is lowered or his posture is low enough, chip away at him a bit first

How do I beat this boss? I've been stuck on him for hours

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If youre wondering that, its probably time to take a break...it took me a lot longer than i had expected to beat the first time because I often had to play/do something else just to get a break. Play something slow and casual, like rdr2

That's exactly what I did too at first but if you grapple after obtaining the viscera you end up in Ashina depths, which was the last place I needed to clear out to progress the main quest

Use your charged spear attack for a special reward.

STANDING

I'm no pro but the game clicks differently for some. I realized it's sometimes better to relax and let the enemy lay into you and feel out the parry timings on them. I was twitchy as shit starting off so I either react too early or press buttons when I should've just time the parry or counter better. Nerves are a bitch though if something hits you and you're trying to manage the attack strings they setup.

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Does anyone have that meme "What I Played What I Expected What I Got" with the Orge fucking drop kicking Sekiro in the final panel?

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Your meme is stale, but it is surprising how many times one of these retard flailers will run in from the side while you're fighting a Redhat or something a bit more threatening and just start wailing on you.

Which spear? I have them all

Not sure how helpful people will find this but
In Hirata Estate when you get the ax.
Jump off the next bridge (before the Shinobi Hunter Mikiri Counter guy)
And in the river you can grapple to a branch that takes you right before Juzou the Drunkard

Webm?

Got you, user

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You still need to go find Owl to get the key to Madame Butterfly's House of /ss/ though

youtu.be/XSRJGXUMBCs?t=2678
Yea Forums ON SUICIDE WATCH

>comments disabled
Loving every laugh

so these were fucking garbage, right?

the only time i tried one was """"lone"""" shadow vilehand to get rid of his gay dance partner before the fight.

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I don't know how to record myself doing it. Sorry.
But do you know the place? Right after you get the axe you kill the two shield dudes to practice the axe. If you jump in the river after instead of fighting the sub boss with the spear the river has a branch. Grapple and land infront of a cave then multiwall jump to Juzou.
Oh. I guess I'll have to back track then.

It's okay to hesitate.

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>doing my first replay of the game
>remember o'rin
fuck her

I have mixed feelings about the sugars. I feel like they should just last until you rest again or die. You get so many handed to you throughout the game that you can upkeep their effects no problem. In the end I sold a ton of them for nothing because I simply didn't need them.

I used to be like that and it took me a while until I got used to them but now it's my favorite shit to do in fights and it's so satisfying when you pull it off consistently

>everyone has the same pic with the mouse cursor in it

you mean the graveyard area?
yeah that one is mandatory if you want to enter the estate

You dodge into the spear, user. Like, press forward right at the incoming attacking.

30 HOURS IN AND I JUST REALIZED YOU CAN SPRINT
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Oh fuck you hombre now I can't unsee that. I'm assuming it's the picture from skyward sword that included it.

Not sure what the area is. Pretty much everything between getting the axe and the place it teaches consecutive wall jumps before Juzou.

>it took me 2 hours to beat Isshin and DSP just killed him in like 20 minutes
Is this the part where I kill myself?

Do High monk on her sweep, its hilarious

You cheated not only the game, but yourself.

You didn't grow.
You didn't improve.
You took a shortcut and gained nothing.

You experienced a hollow victory. Nothing was risked and nothing was gained.

It's sad that you don't know the difference

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This was pretty much my experience with Isshin too though. I beat him on my fourth try. Just attack and deflect lmao

the only legitimate thing DSP has ever done is jerk off on camera

i don't doubt that he did a lot of research to make that 20 minute kill possible

top kek

orin is pretty easy
just parry her and jump on her when she does her sweep attack

How do you tell Isshin's vertical 2 swipe attack versus where he charges it up and does a big circle swing? Am I just blind?

Wow, Phoenix’s Lilac Umbrella + Projected Force turns apparition fights into jokes. Just walked around taking zero damage from Shichiman Warrior and easily doing away with him.

The sneaky sugar is good. I like using it to stealth around. Ako is also good. But I feel like they don't last long enough.

This is the precise reason I rock Aged Mist Raven Feather in that fight, since you can have just gotten hit and it will still count as a dodge
But in truth, he charges a hell of a lot longer for the big circle swing

This
I had to stop browsing these threads for a bit because Guardian Ape became a joke after seeing so many tips from anons. The information is available and easy to find.

>Beat Headless
>Get a Spiritfall
>"Oh awesome, this will make me much more likely to use-"
>Costs spirit emblems
>Still have to do the pose
>Lasts half the time as the sugars
O-Oh, okay

If I die and leave the resurrection screen up took long before choosing to resurrect will it time out and choose for me? Want to know how long I can wait for enemies to walk away from jumping back up.

It's still worth the posture damage, especially after you deflect his follow up. He eve gets stunned then.

Dude's playing you. Owl mikiri counters all your thrusts.

He has a mixup on his followup so its not always that reliable, but it is nice to actually get the old ugly bastard to fall down for a second

How do you take on the two headless down at the bottom of fountainhead palace? Also, the final boss is really annoying.

If you leave it on that screen for too long it will automatically kill you.

I wish it had a counter but the death symbol gradually fades to red and then becomes permanent.

If you kill the none-glowy one the other one dies. Just swipe at him whenever there aren't any of those tracking missile shits around. The dash-stab does pretty good damage.

I need photo mode @@

purple gourd from the memorial mob at mibu village helps a lot seriously, fuck terror

but it's really just down to getting a few swipes in and then dodging away until the bullet hell is gone

once you deathblow one, they both die

awesome, thanks.

video?

oh the purple gourd, forgot about that, thanks for reminding me and thanks for the tips.

Just throw a Firecracker when you see him charge either and you don't even need to be able to tell the difference.

Is there a point to killing the headless beyond exp? The rewards are pretty lackluster. I hate limited-use things that could easily be wasted in a boss fight.

Fuck that shit. I got my balls ripped off for those stupid items.

A secret shinobi technique known only to those who played other FromSoft games.

But seriously, why do people not test out controls?

Isshin is the only boss I have left. Sword phase and Genichiro are easy, but when he pulls out the spear he starts fucking me up hard...

This, someone told me 'AA deathblow!' but you have to actually get near him for that with confetti on, meanwhile Umbrella just shits damage for practically nothing while also blocking unblockable moves

Imagine being worse than DSP.

Is the trick to Mikiri Counters standing still? I seem to always fuck up when moving and only pull them off if I stand still and wait. Is that they way it is designed or just me?

1. The main reward is just not having to deal with the Headless being there anymore.
2. Do them late game where you can buy infinite confettis. I have 200 confettis right now.

Yes.

Dodge into the attack

The trick is to press forward on the Left Stick slightly while you press B/O.

Yes, moving will turn it into a dodge. Also, while googling Mikiri I actually saw a very helpful rebbit post, the guy said 'wait for the audio, not the rune. With some practice you'll be doing them with your eyes closed'
I went to Hanbei and did the Mikiri practice a few times and just as stated, within 10 minutes I literally beat Mikiri practice with my eyes closed.

I wish I hadn't killed him already.

If you move into the attack it will still do the counter, but sideways will become a dodge.
The trick is not to do the counter as soon as the danger icon pops up, that can be way too early for some enemies. Watch the enemy and do it when he actually thusts his weapon.

>finally get to third phase
>doesn't do a single lightning attack I can deflect
>fuck up and die

Yeah I'm mad

Good. They fucked up by giving you free hits on phase 3.

Get a spear guy to help you. Blue samurais in Ashina Castle also use thrust attack a lot.

this is how I won, I forced Isshin into his jump attack with his spear and got in hits running behind him, it was the only tactic i had since trying to perfect parry him was not working and he was too sporadic for me to read what he was doing next

First phase is easy, just dont get too close to where he can hit, backing off a bit forces him to do his ashina cross, 3 hit combo, or wind blade. you can easily get in hits behind him since he leaves a huge opening after doing any of those moves.

get the samurai in blue to help you with fat boy.

Nah, I'm not that invested in the game. I'm just play NG+ to see how easier it is, started day before yesterday and I'm already near fountainhead so I'm gonna stop and come back when the game feels new again. Having all this sen with nothing to buy is a downer

The headless spirtfalls are unlimited use though. Just use the ceremonial tanto and they're a free sugar buff.

Ako and Ungo saved my ass a good number of times when a fight was getting crucial and Gachiin helped with puppeteer hijinks, but other than that yeah. I never had a reason to use Gokan.

I wish I had known about this. It took me ages to kill that asshole.

I dont even think this fight counts. I've had 2 bosses fall of things before and I never "won" the fight cause when I reloaded they came back until I legit killed them.

Yeah I only used Gachiin when I ran out of the actual candies.

Lads, Owl in hirata is smashing my ass into oblivion.
need tips so i can git gud.

I just walked around collecting the heads like I was playing Pac-Man and letting him hit me with any spirit attacks he had, it was pretty fun.

I just beat the Ogre and found a Headless. Did I find an enemy I'm not supposed to be able to kill yet?

>mfw got him to orange in one Force just because the damage stacks so hard

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No, but you probably wanna run anyway since Headless are cancer to fight early game without divine confetti. I honestly didnt go Headless hunting till the near end of the game.

Yes, come back later with the Purple Gourd and Phoenix Lilac Umbrella

>SEKIRO HELP
>STILL NEED HELP AFTER GAME CAN BE
youtube.com/watch?v=ToGguTH30ZQ

LOOK AT ALL THIS CHEESE
Not even game jouranalist can complain anymore they just suck

And i beat the game legit before this video even dropped on youtube,but damn did Miyazaki dupe us good.

Not even Bloodborne can be chessed this hard.
You pretty much just have to over level your self to chesse that game or grind chalice dungeons for perfect gems for your weapons which takes fucking ages

Bloodborne becomes trivial once you know how Beast Blood pellets work.

Orin of the water is throughly raping me and I keep coming back for more. I might be getting way ahead of myself here as the last real boss I fought was genichibro. On the plus side I feel like I'm really learning how to nail perfect parries but I can't get her posture down.

They hurt like hell, fuck those annoying bitches. Little over-aggressive glass cannon dudes that wont fuck off with their endless lunging sword attack strings. The weak bandits with one sword or w/ a sword and a torch are the same way

Remember to stomp her when she sweeps, or better yet abuse high monk.

Try using that buddhist candy that boosts your posture. For some reason O'Rin really hurts your posture even with perfect deflects. You need to recharge it (by holding block) before she starts every combo
Also yeah jump slam her head when she does a sweep

here's my tips

EVERYONE PLEASE JUST WATCH THE DAMN VIDEO
user already gave you all the help you could ever need Games already been destoryed and broken down to what it trully is.
A gimpy mess.

No point in trying to even play the game legit like back when it first released.

I never fought Owl 2.
How do I go about this?
I defeated the Demon of Hatred tonight.
Is it too late?

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Holy christ Demon of Hatred is ramming my ass hard. Some of his moves I legitimately have no idea how to contend with them once I run out of spirit emblems for the Phoenix Umbrella.

Also, I'm at the end of the game and only have 7 necklaces. How many minibosses did I miss? I heard there's 40 necklaces in the game.

Genichiro jobs so hard he even loses to himself when he's not paying attention

Jesus, 40 necklaces?
You sure it isn't 40 beads?
That would make for 10 necklaces.

Just climb up the rooftop bro

See

Yeah 40 beads whoops
Nahhh I want to actually beat him, beating bosses is fun

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This is hilarious. Why can't From Software into proper path finding?

At least, put a damn invisible wall there so that the enemy won't fall down and die.

>go in totally blind
>download the fitgirl repack
>only grab the english files because hey i only speak english anyways
>1 second into the game it tells me the default language is japanese, had no previous knowledge of this
>forced to listen to a dub
Fuck. Should I just uninstall and reinstall with the japanese pack or does it not matter

That Owl 2 fight is literally exactly how you should be fighting though, that wasn't even cheese, just optimal intended play

He's much easier past the first phase I felt. I didn't realize how useful the firecrackers really were til now.

Don't run from her since her reach is so crazy. Just try to deflect well making sure to punish her sweeps with goomba stomps and grabs with damage. If you have red sugar consider using it on an attempt you feel able to win. For me on NG+ charmless/bell that sugar is the difference between acing a fight first try and a dozen attempts to perfect my reactions in the fight.

Those are minibosses, for this one you get the memory, the trophy and everything.

this video just confirms what i have been saying in previous threads.
Owl 2 is the hardest boss in the game.

You cant even cheese him the way you can with owl 1.
True corrupted monk is hard as shit too but they let you get 2 stealth kills on the bitch

Only hard bosses in the game:
Owl 2
True corrupted monk(if you fight her properly)
Demon of hatred(due to camera bullshit casue only way to hit him is to be face first in his ball sack)
SS Isshin and old isshin

How do people even discover shit like this in the first place.
Makes me wonder if the devs knew and it was intentionally left in the game.
What are the chances that you can environment kill 2 bosses in a game that is about fighting them head on

>tfw actually beat seven spears round 2 with ease
What the hell, I struggled at the tower one so hard.

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>tfw beat Ogre and no achievement
Really? He was supposed to be one of the casual filters.

Honestly hardest part of the Corrupted Monk are those illusions in phase 2. I thought they'd all pop after one snap seed but they just keep coming until you hop onto the branches or stealth deathblow her. She's really easy to raise posture.

He's a mandatory miniboss, I agree he should have an achievement because mandatory minibosses shouldn't be a thing.

You know what else is a mandatory miniboss? Mist Noble. I just find that funny.

Yes Owl 2 and Isshin(both fights) are optimal play and are beaten with pure skill and practice.
Everything else in the game can be cheesed to hell and back.
Owl 2 took me the most tries in the entire game of all bosses including SS Isshin

lol Guy sucks the fun out of the whole damn game with a video like this.
Sucks for those who took to long to beat the game or for those who see this video and decide to go try it.
Only thing that will keep them from achieving this is the fact that some of the moves he uses have to be unlocked and hes obviously doing a new game+ run so he has all items and techniques available.

Isn't Juzou also a mandatory miniboss?

No, everything in Hirata Estate is entirely optional unless you want to go for the Purification ending.

no.

>Some of his moves I legitimately have no idea how to contend with them once I run out of spirit emblems for the Phoenix Umbrella.

Should only be using the phoenix umbrella for his fireballs if you cant reach him quickly enough after he does his unblockable dash attack that sends him half way across the fucking arena.

You are wasting spirit emblems when you should be saving them for phase 3 where you can just whistle his big ass to death with the hand whistle and spamming melee

yes because the fog barrier kicks in before he even shows up and only goes away after you kill him.

No because the entire Hirata estate is optional.

That dash attack is one of the things I haven't quite figured out. I tried dashing through his legs but I got stuck in between them and fucking got wrecked. It comes out so fast I'm not sure what the counter is

Lol Holy fuck you can force icchin to stay in sword mode after the first deathblow?

How?
Everytime he always starts his talk he has a blowback after the first deathblow.
Maybe you have to use a strong move that forces him to block and cancels the animation

I finally fucking did it my guys!
Now to wait for the DLC.

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jump up and to the left to avoid the unblockable watch this video casue he beats Demon of Hatred legit

Fight starts at 20:45

When you finish sekiro are you thrown straight into NG+ or do you have a choice?

The latter.

You do get a choice on every ending.

Just jump. I don't even think you have to jump in any particular direction, it seems just jumping let's you phase through it.

What's the most overpowered skill?

imagine being worse than dsp

If we wanna get cheeky then mikiri counter
But considering that should be a default thing anyway, to me its a three way tie between Double Ichimongi, Breath of Life, and Air Prosthetic Tools (since it lets you use firecrackers in the air, which is faster and lets you stay mobile and cover more area)
High Monk/Senpou Kicks is very good but I wouldn't say overpowered

firecracker him and he'll continue to fight in sword mode unless you give him an opening.

So you can beat the game with an ending, reload and get another ending without restarting?

I only Mikiri'd once the whole game. I'm annoyed that its bullshit to pull off but makes every fight less of a bitch, still beat the game though so idc anymore. I didn't have the balls to just stand and wait for the red kanji, I usually dodged to the side or jumped.

>firecracker him and he'll continue to fight in sword mode unless you give him an opening.
Ahhh didnt think of that

And his sword phase is the easiest phase so doing that basically lets you cheese him and not even fight him properly
Owl 2 really is the only true "get good" boss in Sekiro just as i assumed

No, the ending you get is the ending you get. Your ending is decided long before you fight isshin. Killing isshin just puts you in free roam but the ending is already made for you when you decide to NG+

I don't think so, it just goes back to before you fight Isshin.

Its funny cause Isshin and Owl 2 were the only fights I had left before NG+ and I decided on Isshin cause Owl 2 was horeseshit incarnate. I'd rather rage over something I know I have a fighting chance on.

Yeah the japanese voices are so much better, the characters change completely in the english dub. It's that bad.

>horeseshit incarnate.
There really is no way around him either.
Just have to get fucking good.

I barely beat him myself on my first playthrough and only managed to get the kill cause he did the fire owl thrust combo when i had no revives and no more heals and was one hit from death.

Unless you have third-worlder internet just re-download it friend it's worth it.

>NG+
>killed Owl Dad after skipping him originally
>destroyed Fountainhead in a few minutes
>but the I'm still afraid of the Demon because I never beat him
Wish me luck anons
youtu.be/jynTNYSKNuk

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Gachiin is pretty good for near-facestabs

Yeah Gokan is for posture tests, its acutally better in its spiritfall form so you can stack it with the other candies

In what order am I supposed to do bosses is there an intended path? Currently have butterfly lady and a bull on fire, recommendations?

There are a plenty bosses before Genichiro, try to do them for the beads and shit

>Snake eye twins
>Spear and sword general
>Battousai
>Loneshadow swordsman
>O'Rin
>Illusion CM

clips.twitch.tv/GoodCourageousCucumberYee
I'm stuck at this fucking boss, just one shots me, help

>I am shit at games so I must cheese them
You are pathetic.

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>just beat Owl 2 today for the first time today in less time than Owl 1 that I also fought today
Tell me what you struggled with and I will ease your suffering.

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>snake eyes
She's very vulnerable to jumping in and small backsteps to charged attack. She tends to do the grab a lot if you stay in close proximity.
>7 spears
Bait mikiri all day, not really parry heavy.

In Sekiro you have unlimited stamina. In Bloodborne, dodges and attacks come out of the same resource.

Fight him like old Butterfly. Shuriken tends to interrupt a lot of his attacks and the gap closer tends to stagger him. During his second phase, don't get hit by the anti-heal thing. Not because you need to heal but because he'll keep trying to use it on you and it results in free damage. You can sprint to his back during the animation. Sometimes he even does it after doing the smoke bomb.

The return ending is confusing the hell out of me.
It is needlessly convoluted.

Here's mine on NG++.
I often have trouble with that combo too, since it has superarmor, and I'm very counter happy after every deflect.

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The trick to phase 2 is baiting him into certain attacks, especially the one you can mikiri. Phase 3 is just baiting him into lightning so you can reversal. Last I beat him, our pattern was I attack - I attack - I parry - I parry - he jumps up to do lightning IIRC.

This game is so motherfucking hard, I've been stalling on Lady Butterfly for so long.

The Lady Butterfly fight isn't really cheese. The game literally tells you about dodge attacks right before the fight.

>parry her 5-hits, punish her only once
>she jumps up a wire? punish when she's about to jump off (and if you have the skill, attack to close gap easily)
>2nd phase summons? run on corners and bait until they become spirit projectiles, no wasting snap seeds for her
>dodge her 7-hit + perilous sweep, and jump-kick the latter for easy punish

>Demon of hatred(due to camera bullshit casue only way to hit him is to be face first in his ball sack)
Don't lock on. Makes the fight a lot easier. Applies to headless too and a bunch of others as show in the video.

>see someone who figured out how to play the game
>WAA WAA IT'S BROKEN

seriously. try to fight emma and isshin like he does.

Thank you dear user, I'm gonna save that in Onenote

You can actually do the Gyoubu thing to Demon of Hatred too. What's shown here in the demon fight isn't really cheesing.

NG+ is easier than NG

God damn counting that last thrust feels so fucking good.

thats what she said woo

Usually when you deflect an uninterruptible multi-hit combo you're "rewarded" with a perilous attack in the end. And both Mikiri and High Monk do a ton of posture damage when used to counter their corresponding perilous attack types.

Yep. I'm stomping bosses in 1 go that took me a couple days before I beat them in my 1st run. Kinda makes the game not fun cause I'm steamrolling everything.

I noticed that having higher fps helps a lot, so if youre playing on pc set the graphics to low (or put resolution Way Down if that doesn’t help). If youre playing on a tv, switch game mode on

Making these adjustments made owl go from kicking my ass to cakewalk

Reminder that journos needed easy mode for the Hulkster
youtu.be/pSbI04ELTYA

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If you run you can bait pistol into spear into 2 sword slashes combo.

Stop shilling your shitty video here.

Isshin doesn't want the dragon's power to be abused.

>>dodge is nerfed to shit
I am actually not even sure I agree with this.
Yes you can't rely on iframes in Sekiro. But your mobility is like 10 times that of the Souls games and Bloodborne. So you can actually avoid the attacks wholesale instead of having to dodge through them.

Make me, faggot

3 questions.
Where do I farm money and skill?(endgame, Fountainhead)
How the fuck are you supposed to get all the carp scale items?
Can I just savescum the endings for the trophies? Don't think I'll have the motivation for more than one NG+ directly after this one

>Is there a way to manipulative his moveset so he dont throw that combo?
Yeah. Keep your distance.

There are a fuckton of carp in the fountainhead. I ended up with enough to buy every item by the time I was done there.

Wait for NG+2/+3 to farm the exp. It's really not viable on NG, because skill points start to require like 80k+ exp each in the end.
That aside, just backstab the okami women near the bridge/pot bonfire in Fountainhead, or better yet the Ministry dudes in the Outskirts (after Divine Dragon). The latter also drop Fulminated Mercury.
You can savescum endings for the trophies (only 3 of them though), but you need to get Shura and non-Shura endings on the same file for Man Without Equal, so you need to do at least NG+.

>True corrupted monk(if you fight her properly)
What's properly?
I just stayed out of reach and ran in to stab her whenever she missed, because her recovery is super long on the vast majority of her attacks.
She might hit like a truck, but just don't get hit and that's no issue whatsoever. Her reach is long, but she herself is extremely slow relatively speaking.

She is super easy.

Actually. Can you even get Owl's bell if you haven't even beaten Butterfly?

Where do you find Black Hat again after meeting him in Mt. Kongo?

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The snek cave, then back at the castle.

Should have done a charged attack after dodging the wind blasts. You would have the time for it, and as is clear from your webm you don't have the time for more than one non-charged attack anyway.

I often forget it exists. Pretty much never used it, since most enemies will just deflect it anyway.

If you don't want to (or can't) death blow her second health bar, just run to the entrance and face the bridge. Her apparition shits don't spawn behind you and you can just deflect when they pop up.

But really just deathblow her second health bar if you can.

That just bought me to around the 12 I needed for the mask fragment, but I definitely still need the lapis Lazuli

Yeah I'll probably do the Shura ending on my next run to get all of them and then stop playing for a while

Anybody figured out yet why some attacks do little damage while some attacks do a lot? It seems like there's a graze mechanic or bonus damage depending on where you hit.

I know he's going back to Ashina Castle, but where exactly?. I'm on my fourth playthrough and I swear to God I can't find him.

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There are 6 Lapis Lazuli total per every single playthrough. You need 10 to max out all the tools. So that one requires NG+ as well.
There are a couple of side quests that give you plenty of carp scales. Feeding the carp as well as giving the Mibu Priest the Fountainhead Sake. Other than that - you just have to hunt down all the treasure carps in the game.

Near the same spot you met him the first time. He's not inside the house now though, but on a cliff under it, overlooking the bridge leading to Outskirts.

>Yea Forums calls Sekiro hard

*blocks your path*

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Use your umbrella for deflects if you're not good at handling normal deflects. Use your firecrackers, that's free few hits.

Fella can't do those without passing the bull.

You can do either. After butterfly you're done with Hirata for quite a while. Bull is a tedious fight, but you'll need to get through for the game to open up.

The game basically is a boss rush. You can easily run past every enemy and finish the game under 2-3 hours once you've played the game once.

ez game

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I sell everything, I only ever used the prosthetic arm for Demon of Hatred.

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>some threads ago
>sabimaru is supposedly effective against the descendants of okami women who live in the sunken valley and gun fort
>get it and try it against snake eyes
>zero effect
>user tells me that sabimaru "wrecks snake eyes when fully upgraded"
>come back with fully upgraded sabimaru
>still doesn't poison them after a full combo

I find it a lot easier because every boss fight can be played like a guitar hero game. I don't have to think about my positioning or manage my stamina. I just stand in from of the boss and parry/jump/mikiri. The few attacks that you have to dodge(grabs and shit like Owl firecrackers) are so telegraphed that it's not an issue at all. My own posture is a joke since it can't be broken so long as I parry correctly. I guess different people find different things hard.

>My own posture is a joke since it can't be broken so long as I parry correctly.
I never knew this because the game never told me. And considering how much your posture can be damaged when facing off stronger foes/bosses, I simply decided to not deflect that much to begin with. Since I assumed posture damage equalled death.
Changed my entire playstyle into not being hit at all. And now it's hard to play the game any other way.

Yea at first I was scared shitless about it too. Then I realized that most of the time they break you and they don't do anything. Then when I learned that if you actually deflect they can't break you even if your bar is at 100% the game became a cake walk.

Honestly they should have just made it so that you can get posture broken on a successful deflect.
Only that if you successfully deflect when you're being posture broken, you'd deal extra posture damage to the enemy. And if you're both being posture broken, then it's a stalemate and you both recover and all of it continues. But if you get posture broken and they don't, they can punish you even if you deflected successfully.

The way you can just deflect perfectly and win without even having to think about your posture bar is kind of lame. Especially with all the great movement options and posture recovery mechanics that are kind of interesting.

>game journalists saying that Sekiro and other games not having an easy mode is about exclusion
>if this were the case there would be a large group of people demanding that games with easy mode stop being made/remove easy modes after the fact, but this simply doesn't happen
>game journos still playing the exclusion card and using people with disabilities as a shield

I know journalists have always been stupid but this shit really gets under my fucking skin.

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I remember some user saying he worked in that industry for awhile and game journos are literally just cucks who couldn't get a real writing job and are resentful they have to play video games for a living

streamable.com/y8mcm

I did it for a couple months and it's true. They're miserable people.

>Kill big snek by dropping on it from miles above
>go down
>some stupid nigger tells me "oh no don't go over there, big snek live there he gon eat you"
>haha little do you know that nigga is dead
>go in
>big snek body that's moving
>huh weird guess they didn't expect you to come here after killing it & it always moves or some shit
>there's another fucking snek
fuck off

just skip every boss lol
youtube.com/watch?v=X3Mt6YRSlHQ

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>speedrun
yikes
>any%
oof

They didn't use to be this way. I worked for one in an Asian country and we just loved games super hard. We never got review copies, so we made sure to buy them as soon as we could and play through them as hard as we can. Funnily enough we went under, but that's because some faggots got into the upper hierarchy and completely screwed up the workplace with their incestuous fucking and nepotism. They also fucked up managing our ad revenue--we were displaying ads for games that had been out for years and we weren't even getting paid for them.

I miss it, it's the one job I ever had that I actually looked forward to waking up every day to, absurdly low pay be damned. We had banter and such, but it was all in good fun and we were all bros there. Now it's gone and defunct, all because a couple of faggots couldn't keep their dick in their pants long enough to manage our ads efficiently.

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Can't kill the snake in the cave.

I fucking hate speedrunners. Yeah it sounds autistic but it feels like disrespecting the damn game.

why the fuck are there multiple when it's basically regarded as a god

>a god
>why are there multiple
You're not very sharp, are you.

is the meme that people don't know there's multiple and for that reason attribute all of it to a single entity
cause that shit's gay

>have butterfly lady and a bull on fire

Bull interestingly isn't a bullshit fight, just get your deflect timing down and its alright:

>run ahead and get ready when bull dips its horns down the ground
>deflect as soon as you see its head rise up again
>wait a moment as it staggers and turns around, its head very open for a couple strikes
>rinse and repeat

Play the game, user.
And don't forget to chew your rice thoroughly.

No, it's that it's common knowledge that jap religion, particularly shintoism, has a metric fuckton of gods. That you've somehow come this far without knowing some of the most basic bitch shit about Sekiro's setting is laughable

Fightng the sakura bull later on is so satisfying becaus eit goes down with absolutely no trouble no matter how long it took you to kill fire bull.

Spam nightjar skill for first round, or try the slash- dodge to side -slash
2nd round, run around when she summons things till it becomes projectiles then dodge those. Spam nightjarr again but occasionally parry or jump away to avoid some butterfly attacks

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it is only really effective on shirahagi when you can get her down the pool; but then again, might as well just do simple deflect/punish at that point.

>THE serpent god
>not A serpent god
>THE serpent god
obviously there are a lot of gods, but that is ONE of them

there wouldn't be 3 serpent gods that sit around in just about the same place that look the same & do the same shit
that's fucking retarded

Protip: you get a dried snake viscera, the same kind you get from killing a living huge snake.

well not exactly

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Well, one is old as shit.

>get through & jump out the other end
>end up in area I've already been
>literally just was for the viscera
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>enemies can parry AS THEY ARE ATTACKING

fucking epic game!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So can you.
You can cancel your attacks into a deflect or a dodge during the startup frames. The fact that they cancel their attacks into parries lets you trade blows with them easily, instead of having to deflect their full combos (although now after I've cleared the game a few times, the latter might actually be the preferable way to play).

Except their attacks continue after they parry.

Nope, they don't. They either cancel their attack into a guard, or they just don't guard and superarmor through your attack.
If your attack gets DEFLECTED they will do a quick counter attack, which you CAN deflect in turn. But if you keep mashing attack after your previous one was deflected (not just guarded), then you will eat the counter attack.

I was the opposite. Killed fire bull 1st try, died on sakura bull about 5

Bosses like Genichiro can infinitely block during their attack animations.

I did it Yea Forumsros!!

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based

First time fighting Owl 2, on NG+. Getting my asscheeks caved in holy fug

What do you mean by "infinitely" and "during"?
Again, as I said, the bosses will almost always cancel their attack animations into a guard, whenever you try attacking them during their own attack. Unless:
A) They're in recovery animation from their previous attack, in which case they won't block you, and you will instead hit their Vitality directly.
B) They're doing a specific attack combo that has superarmor, in which case they will not block and take vitality damage, but they will not stop attacking either, so you trade hits. Most likely not in your favor, especially if you end up not deflecting the rest of their combo, after you took the first hit.

Holy shit dude, how?

freide is the only boss in the whole series i haven't beaten completely solo. i used that npc summon and still barely beat it.

For me it's Midir. I just didn't feel like playing around his AoE spamming and rampaging through the arena.

>that picture
Literally every casual streamer ever

Midir just hits really hard and has a lot of health, so you get punished very hard for every mistake, but it's not like not making any mistakes is that hard to begin with.
Friede is a mechanically harder fight, probably the hardest in the series. But her attack and health values aren't as inflated (at least on the early NG cycles).

I defeated him solo the first time using the Black Knight Glaive you find near Champion Gundyr after trying almost every STR weapon in the game.

Does anyone actually enjoy the ape fight?
I didn't even die to it but it's just so fucking tedious

Okay seriously, how the hell do you beat Isshin? The fucker hits like a tank, fast and nimble, and has three phases ON TOP of fighting a boss just before him. I don't understand his spear phase at all.

It's my top 3 fight in Sekiro preceded by SS Isshin and Genichiro.

My second fav fight in the game, why?
If its tedious youre most likely fighting it wrong and trying to parry way too much, you can avoid tons of attacks by literally just sprinting behind the ape. Just be aggressive

But I loved that fight and found parrying the attacks was much more engaging.

None of the boss fights are tedious if you parry properly, you're probably running all over the places hence taking you forever to kill him.

>you can avoid tons of attacks by literally just sprinting behind the ape
he's got a near instant turnaround attack that hits like a fucking truck.
From what I found during the fight, standing behind him was literally the worst spot you could be in

we are talking about headless right?

Well no, I was talking about normal monki. If headless then yeah, parry is the way to go for the most part, with the exception of the bloodborne shark lunge move.

It is easier. And therefore shorter. There's no question about it. Once it clicks the game rarely puts up a fight.

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no, nobody has trouble with the headless version, come on now. Just parry his slow ass swings and he lays there exhausted for you to wail on him, then run away for a sec when he does his scream that he always does after you hit him too many times

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>sprinting behind the ape
If you stand behind him he will BRAAP in your face and throw poop on you.

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Remember that consolefriends are playing with sub 30 fps, so intentionally parrying every attack like we do on PC with our zero input lag and 144fps might be very hard for them, hence the parryspam and trying 30 times until stars align.

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why is he take so much less damage on hits than I am?

i started a fresh new game (so no item/ng+ stats) and gave the charms to Kuro, what am I in for?

Is this DSP's redemption arc?

The number of dabs represent the number of attempts it took DSP to the final boss.

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Round 2 kicked my ass hard because my stupid ass got to used from the regular thrusts, Oniwa just delays it so hard you end up doing the Mikiri to early.

Well I still don't understand how you can enjoy normal monki since he's just buttonmashing
I was afraid of this guy since everyone was talking about it being such a hard fight or whatever and I saw that clip of >ninja who supposedly spent hours fighting monkey & then found out there's a phase two
Was I just way too far into the game or something?
I killed normal monkey first try, then bone'd out since I was almost out of heals & I already knew he had a phase two, then on the second try I killed normal monkey with 7 flasks left & killed headless first try

>so these were fucking garbage, right?
>can stealth kill ogre with it

The ending usually gets decided once you kill the Divine Dragon.

>I killed normal monkey first try, then bone'd out since I was almost out of heals & I already knew he had a phase two, then on the second try I killed normal monkey with 7 flasks left & killed headless first try
wow user you're so good
>already knows the entire game and every boss patterns because he watched streamer
>wow this game is easy

I didn't know boss patterns, that's why I used the majority of my flasks
All I saw about it was clips.twitch.tv/BlightedLightGrassBibleThump because I'm a filthy degenerate & watch streamertv's twitch clip compilations

>wow user you're so good
not exactly, I died to that "oh no why won't you tell me where my husbando is" slut like 10 times
I even died to one of those white monkeys in the poison swamp shortly before

after beating Owl 2, Isshin is not that big of a deal

>ninja
>these are the people I'm arguing with
God I'm done. Fuck this board.

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But summoning Gael just bloats her hp and it's kinda annoying especially past NG+ iterations. Killing her solo is the easiest option that I have available. Especially Midir which is a nightmare if you summon with all that HP and if you fuck up even one dodge it will cost you.

hey, I don't get to pick what gets put in those clip compilations

try watching some real gamers
clips.twitch.tv/NastyTsundereCheeseMikeHogu

I'd rather watch some REAL gamers like you, user

first phase is really easy once you get to understand how his move works
>jump over his unblockable sweep
>mikiri him when you can, do not do it too soon or you'll get fuck
>do not parry his double ichimonji/shock wave, just dodge past it and get a few it
>learn to deflect
that's all you need for phase 1, phase 2 is much harder but you need to get a lot of mikiri here to to make it easier
phase 3 is just as hard but if you can get consistent lightning reversal it will be over quickly

Easiest way to kill his phase one is to jump on his swipes, he gets some insane posture damage from them.

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>NG+
>Decide to mod for fun
>Use mod that makes everything not use emblems
>No Kuro charm
>Puppeteer for maximum chaos
>Freely use Combat Arts
This is fun and still challenging. The chip damage and posture damage increase really make you gitgud

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I've gotten to phase 3 a few times but he never uses fucking lightning moves for me, and the 2 times he has I wasn't expecting them because of how seldom he pulls them out
At this point I kinda feel like I'm fishing for RNG, and I don't like that

If I've killed the Divine Dragon and gotten the secret pass key, is that the end of the game? Should I go back and get stuff that I missed?

careful you're only a few more mods away from turning Sekiro into Nioh

get a mod that turns every enemy into chained ogre and you basically have Nioh

As long as it's fun and still hard

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>most of the time they break you and they don't do anything
It seems like they stop their combo the moment they posture break you.

Can I save-scum after the Sword Saint Isshin fight to get the three main endings?

Somebody needs to mod in the better Maria.

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How do I get up to this cave? It looks like theres a grapple point but I cant find anywhere that triggers it.

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DSP beat him. And this game. Think about that .

Just grapple there from the top of the stairs.

I found the grapple on the other side of the stairs from there. Didn't go where I thought, though. I can't figure out how to get to the great carp area and I feel like I'm overlooking something obvious.

i have been stuck on two final bosses over 10h now

DSP got fucking top 4 at EVO

I'm really tempted to install the mod that reduce emblem cost.
>Ceremonial Tanto can now be infinitely, as long as you have the health for it.
>Reduced the cost of all combat arts by 1 spirit emblem, with the exception of Ashina Cross which is now free to use.
>All 3 ninjutsus now cost 5 emblems.
>All prosthetic upgrades now cost the same number of spirit emblems as their base counterpart.

Just jump from here and grapple.
As for the carp feeding area, you need to get past the Palace's main gate first. I.e. you need to swim past the carp before you can feed him.

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