>make party game
>developer says its not a fighting game
>turn off 50% of the content
>"smash bros is a real fighting game"
Why do fans kill everything?
>make party game
>developer says its not a fighting game
>turn off 50% of the content
>"smash bros is a real fighting game"
Why do fans kill everything?
>Make party game
>People like it
>A few people out there want to play the game with less randomness to emphasize skill
>Turns out more & more people like it
>The way it's analysed & played, with different states & lexical field, make it ressemble conventional fighting games
Why do people get butthurt over something that doesn't affect them?
Smash is great as both
Explain the outburst over tripping then
Sakurai and crew should not try to cater to the competitive fanbase because they will never be satisfied.
>Here's final destination versions of every stage
>B-b-b-but the floor texture is too squishy on this one!!!!!!
Tripping was randomness that couldn't be turned off
artist?
Oh please tell me thats not a real complaint. Shit like that is why "Pro Gaming" is fucking stupid.
Tripping isn't fun.
>Color pallete is not optimal to bring the most out of individual skill
>Dust particles are lost in this stage due to how the stage was made, suboptimal
>Music selection on this stage isn't the ideal choice for the community, making it impossible to play competitively in it
>Background animations are too smooth for my eyes to pay attention to both the game and the cinematic behind the stage, banned
It was a complaint for the Mario Galaxy (Omega) stage in Smash 4. Not sure if they "fixed" it in Ultimate or not.
Competitive smash is like that aunt you're begrudgingly forced to deal with every Thanksgiving.
If the background of the stage is like an airplane flying wildly that causes motion sickness, it a bad thing.
peach is such a sweetheart
You've SEEN final destination though, right? Like you've clicked it and entered the stage? If yes, this is not a complaint.
Smash is uneven and little Mac is the worst character ever created
wtf is wrong with Peach?
>competitive Smash is autistic
>but playing a children's party game so you can watch Sonic get a power star and then punch Cloud really hard until he gets knocked off of Mega Man's stage is not.
throwing stones in a glass house, aren't we nintendies?
so just wanted to see her pantsu and butt user
Oof.
Based.
She is a princess from a wacky magic land who gets kidnapped by a turtle demon who love her every week and then plays go-karts with him the day after. Not really worth trying to understand her mindset.
>The way it's analysed & played, with different states & lexical field, make it ressemble conventional fighting games
>this is what smashfags actually believe
These can't be real. I refuse to believe such autism exists.
Bowser doesn’t have a dick
Babies come from storks, so that isn't a problem.
I know the music one is used (why not just turn the music off if Twitch won't allow you to stream the music)? Not sure about the others.
kill what? what are you even saying. The fans like the game. They're enjoying it. What do you mean they're killing something? What are they killing?
Of fucking course.
>Background animations are too smooth for my eyes to pay attention to both the game and the cinematic behind the stage, banned
Maybe I'm just getting old, but stages like Clock Tower and Final Destination are harder to play on with all the movement and visual clutter in the background. Especially if you get into a situation where you and your opponent are in the air and there's no point of reference other than the moving background.
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>childrens games are autistic
swamp pilled
>Smash Ultimate is easily the most balance smash yet with no matchup worse than like 4-6
>people STILL bitch about top/high tiers ft. Heavyweights
Why. Salem was right btw
People don't losing to other people.
Counter point: if they made an official project m, literally everyone would like it.
tripping was something that doesn't add to the casual experience while directly harming the competitive experience, so it seemed like a direct anti competitive statement instead of a pro casual one
Project M is better.
Maybe if they could actually make the "party" part fun again people wouldnt be so drawn to 1v1, the only reason to play FFA in Ultimate over Melee or 64 is for 8 player modes
Not even casuals liked tripping
They aren't, the closest is people complaining the Bayo stage's background is a visual clusterfuck but that's it, I know some music legally cannot be streamed though.
All Omega/BF versions of stages are tourney legal in Ultimate though. Why do casuals make shit up about a game they don't play?
meleefags would find an excuse to hate it because it's not "fox vs. jigglypuff: the game."
It says on the manual that you can play however you like
Thing is that they never did carter to the competitive playerbase beyond a broad memetic "no items, fox only, final destination", when acual competitive gameplay has you playing in different stages with platforms.
Because no platforms is actually unbalanced for some characters.
How am I supposed to play and learn match ups if there's more than 3 viable characters in the game?!
>with no matchup worse than like 4-6
Someone hasn't played Mac/Pac-Man, or Peach/Pac-Man, or Kirby vs best characters with disjoints, or K.Rool vs best rushdown characters.
>The blue strip at the top of her black yoga pants are actually her underwear
Nice touch
ss2sonic
>implying Sonic can reach ss2
Read ahead, it was a Smash 4 thing.
In Smash 4 all the Omega stages had different blast zones and ledges, someone could die at 120% on one Omega stage but live till 140% on another.
>Eric Lowery
Fucking hack.
...so? Just consider it a different stage.
Like I said, NEVER pleased.
But then people who aren't them complain that tourneyfags ban stages even after a standardized one is made.
I have yet to meet anyone who thought tripping was a good idea.
>That time people tried to start shit over a video speculating stage legality for Ultimate
if you have 30 something legal stages that contain 24 that are pretty much identical with different blast zones then the counterpicking system would be completely worthless
>he hasn’t blazed with Sakurai irl
>thinks he’s a smash fan
Kek
Sakurai did it to piss off incels
>Never satisfied
Ss2sonic
In some places its sssonic2
That's retarded.
>"Hey do you wanna play on FD?"
>"Nah dude, I wanna play on FD but with edges on the side and a 3% bigger blast zone."
>"That stage is okay, but I'd prefer FD that's slightly smaller than normal with a smaller blast zone."
They should have been standardized from the beginning, now they are and people have no issue playing on the various FD/BF forms.
>I have no idea how comp smash works
nothing wrong with wanting more unorthodox maps legalized like Rainbowcruise and Halberd that Smash4 babies cant handle but what you suggest would just be needlessly complex
only reason i like smash bros is that they made wii fit trainer happen
>Aah, ssonic2, or some say, sssonic2. Do you hear our commissions?
>it's different so we don't play on them
>but it's pretty much identical so we do play on them
You can't have your cake and eat it too. This is why nobody respects you.
do you have any idea of how the counter-picking system in smash bros competitive works?
source? image searches got nothing but bullshit.
Only thing I know is you're a whiny bitch complaining about a slightly larger blast zone and how it both counts as the same stage and a different stage at the exact same time, and that you can't read when someone says Smash 4 instead of Ultimate.
At least with being never satisfied there's a 9% chance you'll ever get your way.
Doesn't matter if it's balanced if it's not fun
Fucking plebians are so bad at melee they cant even beat high-tiers with whoever they want
Get good before complaining
>say you never need evo
>evo says "lol ok" and boots you off
>cry because kicked out of evo
ITS NOT FAIR
so you dont then
Smash Bros is a perfectly legitimate fighting blg blubhllable blahnhumblum removal blebblubulla bolblebeleh luck.
Real reason people hate smashers is the stench and wanting 4 hour best of 5 top 8s
Was typo earlier, 0% chance.
I dont understand what that means
Stop making threads like this, anytime there's a thread on Yea Forums that even requires the slightest bit of knowledge on a subject, there's like 2 people in the thread that know what their talking about and try to explain reasoning, and everyone else just shits on them with out even giving a thought, Yea Forums is better off not talking about video games.
that's not even true, melee fags love smUsh
Krool doesn't have any 70:30 matchups retard
He means 3-7 ie Krool loses badly
It was apparently important enough for the devs to make blast zones and ledges identical in Ultimate so go fuck yourself.
>sssonic2trash
omega stages existed just for tourneyfags though so it would be silly if they didnt give into their demands
Didn't work since he removed it in the very next game and did way more to cater to comp players. So lot of good that 'epic trollz' did.
The fact that every Smash clone is irrelevant goes to show that no one actually cares about """""competitive""""" platform fighters unless it has Nintendo characters in it
Brawlhalla has 10k in game right now despite being really shit
What kind of idiot liked tripping?
Nice strawman, half of melee's roster is viable
Oh they'll find something else to complain about.
but they havent and people now use the feature in tourney as it was intended since that was fixed
Yeah they totally didnt ban stages because of streaming issues lol
But they don't complain, I don't think I've ever seen a competitive player complain. It seems like it's more so casual players who fail to understand why certain stages are favored. Hell, I've seen multiple stages used on live streams
I didn't know Trainer was that dummy thicc.
>He say that when a majority of Melee battles have been nothing more than the same 3 to 4 characters being use
the majority of stages dont have this issue and its not like its something that could be fixed
>I don't think I've ever seen a competitive player complain
Holy fucking shit just read this damn thread.
I give up, you're a moron.
yeah it's not like the music in ultimate can be turned off fucking lmao that would be insane
>implying everyone ITT isnt a filthy casual me and you included
the reason anyone in a tourney is going to pick one omega stage over the other is for the soundtrack though, has anyone ever picked one just because it looked nice?
ye boyo move that goalpost.
I mean, the entire reason smash even got off the ground was because it had Nintendo characters beating the shit out of each other. Call me a rosterfag, but the characters definitely come first and foremost, in fact, that’s the reason why they brought everyone back but cut so many modes. I wish they didn’t cut so much stuff, but it’s clear what the series’ main priority is.
You're not wrong. The biggest thing I appreciate about Slap City is how every character came from a preexisting game/series so Fishbujin could draw people into Ittle Dew or or Goddess of Explosions lets people discover Hyper Princess Pitch.
Its an identical stage, why would you want to play on one without music?
You mean this thread filled with casuals literally making shit up about what comp players complain about?