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Quick Yea Forums, which starter zone is the comfiest?
We're finally going home
Owen Lewis
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Jace Williams
Dwarf > Nelf > Human > Undead > Orc > Tauren
Mulgore is so bland to me
Asher Myers
If they won't change raid attunements and class balance this game will be dead in less than a month.
Henry Thomas
human got comfiest start zone, meanwhile durotar makes me uninstall,fuck that boring ass craggy shitpile
Jose Carter
sure bby ;)))
David Hughes
Ever levelled in mulgore at night when the moon reflected in the water and the inns were sitting comfy at night fucking pleb.
I like them all except night elf. Never really liked those hippy fucks. Although fuck the echo isles.
Benjamin Rogers
Elwynn.... Home....
Daniel Long
At least it was before I fucked everything up
Cameron Roberts
Not giving a single cent towards koticks wallet.
Liam Morris
>Home
ENJOY YOUR GOLD SWAPPING SHIT-FEST
Christian Hernandez
I booked my holidays today, so we'll get a release date tomorrow.
Wyatt Sullivan
In terms of raw comfiness:
Dun Morogh > Elwynn Forest > Mulgore > Teldrassil > Durotar > Tirisfal Glades
In terms of how much I like the zone in general (for any reason):
Durotar > Elwynn Forest > Dun Morogh > Tirisfal Glades > Teldrassil > Mulgore
Including TBC starting areas, it's Azuremyst Isle > Eversong Woods > * on both counts
Connor Perry
I keep seeing this shit posted recently in classic threads and wonder just what are you "people" on about?
The kind of people that would want gold on retail WoW will never have play classic enough to amount a sizeable amount of gold to trade with others, plus even if there are people that want to swap gold, this'll only happen months after classic is released, so it'll barely harm anyone or anything.
Luis Price
who the fuck wants to play horde
literal mudhut niggers eating KFC in their designated nigger KFC huts in the middle of every zone (complete with every vendor, more quests then alliance and FP ofc oh and sometimes there is even a zeppelin or free transport thrown in) while chimping on anything that moves in numbers only despite rolling for pvp racials but never actually 1v1ing to use them
then porting into their literal mudhut nigger KFC city called "orgrimmar" more like ogreshit lol blizzard literally took some somalian shithole town and copy pasted it into wow to give that authentic nigger feel to the faction le monster races br0 check out these NO SHOES so whacky better name myself something fucking retarded like boogerbones to fit in btw get owned kid totally bg queued out of that 1v1 close one
you want a sick capital city to afk in br0? take your pick :
- literal sewer shithole with aids and feces everywhere
- some fucking retarded canyon thing where you fall off and die
- literal nigger kfc somali city
NO
SHOES
NO SHOES
N O S H O E S
N I G G E R
FUCK YOU HORDE NIGGERS
John Lee
You are fucking retarded dude. Retail gold has value because you can buy game time with it.
Jose Ortiz
based
Juan Powell
And? Explain how this will affect classic at all. So people will farm gold (woah unheard of) and trade it with retailfags for game time. Man the game is ruined now, how will I ever play it?
Hudson Turner
Comtext? If it's real that is.
James King
Retard.
Henry Flores
You've yet to explain how this will ruin classic or affect people that aren't poorfags and don't give a shit about your tokens.
Jace Morris
>Retail fags
No one needs to play retail you imbecil.
Matthew Gomez
>not fishing in Thunder Bluff
Top comfy.
Henry Jackson
>Lvl 1 Player A on retail buys Token
>Lvl 1 Player B gets traded Token on retail
>Lvl 60 Player A gets gold on Classic
>Lvl 60 Player B continues to play the game for free because subs are shared.
Here you go you retard.
Jordan White
You do if you want to buy and use a token with gold, or are you implying that Classic will also have an in-game store? If so then you're beyond any help at that point, imbecile (yes, it's spelled with "imbecile" with an "e" at the end).
Justin Flores
>Tirisfal Glades
All these years I thought it was Trisfal Glades.
Eli Johnson
Retard
Hudson Morris
You do realize that I asked you to explain how that will affect classic in a negative way, right? You haven't done that, you've just explained what literally everyone knows already. That's not a negative at all. How does some faggot that bought gold affect others at all? People have been buying gold in WoW for ages and it'll never ever stop.
William Cruz
Enjoy your pay to win shit game.
Jayden Brown
GIVE ME... CLASSIC... NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I SAID NOW!!! I SAID NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW! IT ISN'T FAIR! I'VE WAITED AND WAITED, I'VE ATE MY TENDIES AND CLEANED THE PLATE, LICKED IT CLEAN AND ATE THE CRUMBS, I'VE EVEN WASHED A FEW OF MY THUMBS! GIVE ME CLASSIC NOW! I SAID NOW! MAKE IT FASTER. MAKE IT BETTER. JUST BE FUCKING FASTER. HOW FUCKING HARD CAN IT BE TO JUST MAKE A VIDEO GAME!!! GIVE ME IT FUCKING NOW. I WANT IT NOW NOW NOW NOW. I'VE WAITED AND WAITED AND COLLECTED MY POINTS, NOW I'M SPENDING THEM ALL ON CLASSIC WOW JOINTS. IT ISN'T FAIR. IT ISN'T FAIR. I WANT IT. AHH..I--AHH GOD THAT'S IT!!! THAT'S IT.
*STOMP STOMP STOMP STOMP STOMP*
YOU DID THIS. YOU FUCKING DID THIS! YOU BROUGHT OUT THIS DEMON. YOU MADE ME A STOMP DEMON! I DIDN'T WANT TO DO THIS. OH WHATS THAT? A PLATE? WOOPS. YEAH, I'M NAUGHTY, I'M A NAUGHTY NAUGHTY BOY WHO WHEN I DON'T GET WHAT -I- WANT I SMASHY WASHY BASHY, CLLLEAN IT UP. YOU CLEAN IT UP. THAT'S RIGHT, OH ARE THE LITTLE PLATE SHARD PIECES GETTING STUCK IN YOUR FINGERS? THATS WHY YOU SHOULD HURRY UP AND MAKE CLASSIC WOW. DO YOUR FUCKING JOB! I'VE GOT MY DIAPERS ON I'M READY FOR A FUCKING ADVENTURE. HURRY UP! I'LL SMASH ANOTHER ON-- OH YOU THINK I WON'T? OH YOU THINK I WON'T? THAT'S IT! THAT'S IT! *BEGINS SPINNING AROUND WHILE STOMPING/FARTING FURIOUSLY*
NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW! GIVE ME IT NOW! I SAID RIGHT NOW!!!! *CRASHES HEAD FIRST INTO PLATES, CUTLERY, AND VASES, SMASHING EVERY SINGLE ONE* OH FUCKING CHRIST, OH FUCKING CHRIST PLEASE GOD N-- HELP ME, THE-- THERE COULDN'T BE MORE FUCKING SHARDS OF GLASS -- IP--PLEASE,. PLEASE HELP ME. PLEA-- I CAN'T SEE. I CAN'T FUCKING SEE. PLEASE. PLEASE GOD HELP -- NO I TAKE IT BACK, I TAKE IT BACK, I WANT-- OH FUCK THERES SO MUCH BLOOD. PLEASE. PLEASE GOD I JUST WANTED TO PLAY CLASSIC WOW. NOO NO NO NOT LIKE THIS, I'M BLEEDI--I'M BLEEDING OU--HELP ME. HELP ME. PLEASE--..plea--...h--… h--..
…
….
*a light stomp is heard*
Adrian Brown
This makes Classic pay to win though. And it’s not against TOS lmao.
Ethan Foster
Tirisfal Glades without a doubt
Brill is peak comfy
Colton Fisher
kek
Robert Harris
Dun Morogh surpasses kino
Andrew Hernandez
Have sex
Nathaniel Cook
Only the dead can truly know this pleasure
Nu-Brill is fuckawful
Nathaniel Collins
nu-Brill is a smoking crater now
not that I’m complaining, cataclysm ruined it along with everything else
Benjamin Morales
Copypasted more like.
Ryan Cox
so how desperate will people from live servers be once vanilla brings in more revenue than live?
what mental gymnastics will they use and how many of them will commit sudoku knowing that the thousands of hours they spent farming gigantic neon dildo mounts and toys was for naught?
Andrew Kelly
omg tranny is back
Brody Myers
Imagine watching anime and being virgin as a grown ass man.
Brayden Gonzalez
I can't decide from Mulgore and Tirisfal.
John Mitchell
feels good
Imagine not being able to appreciate anime... no I dont even want to imagine such miserable existence.
Jose Campbell
Steping into Silverpine forest for the first time is a fucking diamonds.
Daniel Ortiz
Pay to win how? You can buy blues or few BoE epics from AH. You are still going to get your ass kicked by players who have actually good gear.
Pay to win means that by paying you get advantage that cannot be gotten without paying.
Nicholas Bennett
>what are carries.
Holy fuck you’re dumb.
Daniel Garcia
Still not pay to win you retard.
Gavin Hill
Wrong.
Landon Turner
Again, you think that gear makes the player. That's not true. You can kill people half naked in this game if you actually know how to play. So you'll see some geared retards that'll likely end up booted from every serious guild that they try to join. Woah, game's right, innit?
Levi Martin
>Classic
>skills
Ay lmao
Lincoln Baker
>hating on Mulgore
Leo Morales
I bet that an actually decent naked rogue with grey weapons can beat a shitter with bough gear.
If you are talking about PvE then any even half decent raid group will instantly spot a shitter who's trying to get in with carried kills.
Josiah Miller
Since when can you trade wow tokens?
Camden Garcia
>he thinks that Classic will have a height skill ceiling.
Not even him but. You’re pretty retarded mate.
Angel Campbell
You trade the gold?
Colton Nelson
Home
William Wright
You can't. You buy 'em and shove 'em on the AH. Of course the shitposting autists don't know about this.
Carson Bell
Nearly perfect, except I would swap orc and tauren.
Ayden Harris
You will get like 100g in classic for a tokken if that.
Alexander Watson
>t. High school dropout
Leo Fisher
We will have to see. Exchange currency rates will obviously apply.
Adrian Collins
>They spotted a hole in my shitty post, better insult them.
Xavier Phillips
First you need to farm dat gold, then sell it. Its not getting OUTA NOWHERE EBIN))))))))))))))
Second is, fucking chinkchongpong gold farmers are always have been mostly since release.
Andrew Murphy
>can’t even extrapolate something as simple as trading the gold.
Lmao
Daniel Gomez
rolling for dwarf huntard
Brandon Edwards
Dun Morogh's music is the absolute best because of that piano, and if it wasn't for that awful troll cave it would be a perfect zone.
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Kevin Miller
Except that one is against TOS, the other isn’t. You should read more about basic economics before making shitty posts.
Colton Green
>40 man raids
>2 items per boss
>can have items for a class that isn't part of your faction drop
>main group members might also need a lot of items themselves
Yeah man, those boosts are going to gear up those shitters something fierce. They'll be fully geared from just one or two runs!
Christian Martin
and then DM farming will come out and it'll be 600 gold for a token.
Joshua Collins
>TOS
Yea, like anyone gives a shit about them. People have bought gold for more than a decade now from chinks and nothing happened to them.
Luis Scott
Seething
Henry Bennett
>his little fantasy gets shattered
>proceeds to post buzzwords
James Brown
>muh comfy
imagine being this pathetic about a dying game
Charles Gomez
Nobody's calling retail WoW comfy in here.
Nathan Smith
Not him but you’re in the wrong here. People will literally buy anything.
Juan Russell
>Except that one is against TOS,
No one cares about this fucking TOS, I saw advertisements of chinks all the time right in the chat throughout the classic and TBC, it just stopped a bit in wotlk. EU/retail.
Everyone was buying fucking time cards all the time, same as gold.
Seems like you're never played before.
Chase Rodriguez
>any mmo whatsoever
>skill
come on now, lets not delude ourselves
Carter Flores
Elwynn Forest, nothing like smacking murlocs away with a fishing pole while fishing after a hard day of questing and beating kobolds in the mines.
Lucas Myers
Who said otherwise? My point was that them getting fully geared and walking about in big dick sets in no time is very low. They'll have to buy quite a lot of boosts before that happens.
Wyatt Cruz
Okay faggot i want to see either mythic clears (WoW) or Ultimate clears(FFXIV)
Oh wait you have neither shut the fuck up
Nathaniel Rivera
classic is the same game as retail user, just configured differently
both are dying, because they are the same game
Benjamin Wright
Don’t listen to this retard.
Mason Watson
This is bait.
Jaxson Morgan
>mythic
Landon Wilson
memorizing a pattern and having a geared character is not skill, its memory and spending time at a click fest
dodging memorized and telegraphed attacks from bosses and having BIS gear does not mean skill user, its just you spending a ton of time at something that's built to feel like you have skill when you have none, thats the core of the MMO genre
doesnt mean they cant be fun though
Lincoln Lewis
Make several things in Classic take 3 times less time like retail and bam it has the exact same problems.
Carson Moore
REMINDER:
>Balance is viable in a PvE setting thanks to Aura
>Feral tank is viable for dungeon farming
>Feral deeps is a strong PvP candidate
>Resto is a fantastic raid healer thanks to HoTs limiting threat and Swiftmend for crushing
>BM is more than just a leveling spec
>Marksmanship is strong DPS against all raid bosses that rogues can't touch
>Survival is a high-intellect PvP spec that is rough to counter
>PoM/Pyro may be brain-dead but it works
>Rolling Ignites will always be the strongest DPS in the game
>Frost is more than just a leveling spec
>Healdin is the best single-target healer in the game
>Protection is viable for tanking high-level dungeons
>Retribution may be low DPS but it cannot be kited and counters every class in the game
>Discipline is one of the best healing specs in PvP
>Holy is the most-viable healer in all situations
>Shadow is fantastic in both PvE and PvP environments
>Assassination is more than just a raid spec
>Combat is more than just a leveling spec
>Subtlety is more than just a PvP spec
>Elemental has the best burst out of any caster class
>Enhancement is more than just a leveling spec
>Restoration brings both the paladin and priest class kits with them thanks to totems
>Affliction defines the meta for raiding
>Demonology defines the meta for WPvP
>Destruction defines the meta for BGs
>Arms is actually the best PvP specialization when pocket healers are factored in
>Fury has better DPS than rogues
>Protection is used in raiding because only a warrior can get uncrushable
>all specializations are viable no matter what private server "players" say
Julian Davis
Sorry Mythic+ or +5 or whatever the hypest shit is right now
But he doesnt have mythic clears either so not like it matters
Jack Martinez
You might as well get even more reductive and go full "no game takes skill it's just pressing buttons in the correct order at correct timings", you're already pretty close to getting there
Isaac Clark
What about arcane mage?
Blake Nelson
>feral druid is the best tank on Patchwerk fights
Brandon Brown
So what's with this shitposting and all the hatred for Classic servers anyway? Shouldn't retailfags rejoice over Classic servers as they'll increase WoW's revenue and thus end having better content on their servers with all that extra income? Blizzard confirmed that the team Classic team won't be that huge, so they won't lose any money there.
Why are people so against these servers? They can play on them if they want to, they don't have to pay for an extra sub. Why would you be against more choices when playing a game?
Kevin Sanchez
rolling for gnome warlock
Ethan Scott
Mulgore
Sebastian Reyes
If by dead you mean all the spastics like you have left, then yes, that will hopefully be true.
Parker Jenkins
It’s going to be pay-to-win, sadly.
Sebastian Cox
Ghostlands.
Luis Morales
That's what PoM/Pyro is you nonce, Arcane/Frost stopped existing after 1.11 and people were trying to make a tri-spec with mage before Elementalist got super-popular in PvP circles while Rolling Ignites continued to dominate raids.
Julian Harris
You do realize that nobody's buying your little fanfiction, right?
Parker Morris
What are you on about? Even Big Streamers/Youtubers are addressing this issue.
Jacob James
If you're talking about Gold Swapping, you can bet your ass that everyone here will do it. With or without Token.
Andrew Cox
>streamers/youtubers
Seriously, nigger? Take your ecelebs and shove 'em.
Faggots buying boosts won't affect the game one bit. If you're shit then no amount of epics will fix it. They'll get decimated by people that know their classes nonstop in PVP and in PVE they won't be able to stay in any good group for longer than a boss or two.
Isaiah Peterson
>Gold doesn't matter in Classic
>t.Never played Vanilla
John Sullivan
Rolling. Dwarf anything, please.
Michael Garcia
not at all: reflexes, pathfinding, planning, management and overcoming unexpected circumstances are at the same time valid vidya skills and missing from MMOs
pressing W to stand in a green area instead of a red area and then press 1 2 3 1 2 3 4 is not skill, cant you see the difference?
Christian Walker
>People thinking that mmo's require skill
That's funny enough, but the absolute delusion is:
>CLASSIC IS HARDER THAN RETAL
AhAHAHAHAHAHA
Isaac Perry
If you can't tell by taking a quick glance you might be autistic
Thomas Smith
reddit spacer be gone
Christopher Clark
Classic is leagues harder than retail.
Jason Parker
I heard that hunters peak in BWL and then stagnate while the other dps classes continue to increase their damage?
James Davis
Either you never played classic or you are blatantly lying in an attempt to provoke people.
Chase Johnson
These threads were so comfy just a week ago..
Dominic Jones
not enough tranny now
Brody Howard
Seethe harder.
Charles Foster
lets go home lads
Dylan Thomas
Never played this weirdo shit and never will.
Chase Peterson
Not gonna bother listing them out, but Elwynn is the best and I say this as a Horde player. It reeks of classic storybook adventure, but in a charming way. The worst is probably Tirisfal even though it really captures the feeling of being an undead.
Caleb Brooks
Adrian Garcia
>Grinding=/=difficulty
Ryder Torres
ecks dee
Eli Rodriguez
Kind of, hunters are almost never top DPS unless things aren't going well or other DPS suck, but they're still good, consistent DPS at all tiers. Hunters, and to a lesser extent Rogues, don't scale as well as some of the other DPS specs, so they'll start off higher in MC/Ony but fall behind in AQ40/Naxx. They still bring a healthy amount of utility to raids though so as long as you're smart you'll still be guaranteed a raid spot even in naxx.
Easton Jackson
It's just typical /v shitposters. Half this thread is filtered cancer memes for me which is also standard for modern /v.
Just play what you want to play and don't install quest arrows to railroad yourself.
>but old things are baaaaaaaad!
Joseph Nelson
Classic has more mechanics by default than retail.
Pulling agro, running out of mana, actual resource management, dead zones. I mean its actually easy to get killed while playing classic with a genuine fuck up.
Retail only gets "hard" when you activate difficulty level +7 to enable more things to deal with because the game is so casualized by default.
The sad truth is that getting to level 10 in classic is more of an adventure than anything retail has to offer.
Andrew Sanchez
>Classic has more mechanics by default than retail.
Luke Peterson
>Classic has more mechanics by default than retail.
oh no
oh nonononono did he actually...pfffftttttt HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH HOLY SHIT IMAGINE BEING THIS GUY RIGHT NOW OH MY GOD HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Kevin White
>Classic has more mechanics by default than retail
Daniel Sullivan
The funniest part of posts like this is that you think that raiding is literally all there was in vanilla WoW. Besides, Classic was all about the grind. It's not like WoW now where it just hands out gear like candy. Gotta earn that shit with investment. This is the kind of player nu-WoW has created.
Yea, Feral Druids actually make great tanks when there are three or less enemies. When it gets more than that, it can be somewhat troublesome to maintain aggro. Druids have a metric fuckton of armor and health, which makes them pretty good for small groups or boss encounters. IIRC one of their biggest weaknesses is you need a lot of rage (15? A warrior only needs 5. Massive difference) for their taunt, and they only have one.
Jordan Wilson
Dun Morogh
>snowing constantly
>HOW ARE YA?
>WOTCH YER BECK
>KEEP YER FEET ON THE GROUND
>beer rivalry
>dwarf taverns are maximum comfy
>IF best city, debate me and I'll throw you in the Great Forge
>shares zone with Gnomes so lots of casters running around so it's not just a dwarf sausagefest
>Gnomeregan is a charming hint at later game content
Chase Kelly
>Classic has more mechanics by default than retail
Asher Gray
>Classic has more mechanics by default than retail.
Josiah Butler
>we're finally going home
do you really want to play wow even if it's classic?
it's not going to be the same, ever
we already lost that era, face it guys
stop wasting so much time in mmos
Jose Baker
Legolazxxl here comes
Dominic Martin
A reminder
Do not reply to obvious shitposters
Ignore the retarded bait post
And remember. We're going home.
Nathaniel Gray
>Rolling anything other than undead warlock
Hudson Nelson
>this level of denial
it's fine if you're okay with classic anyways but this is so fucking cringe man
Jason Morris
...
Lincoln Martin
No (You)s for you
Matthew Clark
Give me human male paladin. As The Light intended.
David Price
asd
Julian Rivera
anyone know when is classic coming out
Henry Diaz
Based.
Asher Sanders
You seriously cannot tell me you read your own post and thought that it wasnt the most retarded thing ever conceived (right after you) and posted it anyway
Nice try at creating the most forced, artificial tryhard double standard ive ever seen though
Zachary Barnes
>tfw know that Classic raids are simple as shit
>tfw know that you're still going to end up having to deal with complete fucking morons who manage to fuck up having only one thing they need to do in the entire fight
Adrian Phillips
Holy shit i got the holy Trinity of nub. Night elf (male) survival Hunter. Phear my raptor strikes
Charles Wright
Dun Morogh is comfiest starter zone. Nelf is worst.
Lucas Rivera
Now multiply that by 40.
Levi Brown
How the fuck will classic cucks EVER recover?
It feels amazing to be a BfAbull right now guys, not gonna lie.
Jaxson Richardson
Yep it is, that Croc may be dead, did you know butterflies are carrion feeders? look up ''butterflies dead fish'' I'd spare you the image if you don't want.
Jaxson Reyes
Elwynn is comfy
Ironforge is cosy
Tirisfal is atmospheric
all great zones, rest are shit
Owen Gutierrez
Remember when a top warrior in vanilla tried nu wow and got global #1 warrior in literally just a few months?
Yeah, retail is braindead. Aspects of vanilla that make it hard are things like not having raidwide full heals available or not getting resources shit down your throat
Eli Murphy
Bunch of retards. Retail hunters dont teach pet tricks, retail seals dont affect judgment in any way + many more mechanics abolished. Only shows they know nothing on the subject.
Lincoln Turner
I fucking miss heroic 10-man so goddamn much
Blake Reyes
>gold swapping
If I'm going to be using real money to buy gold why would I even bring retail into the equation?
Ian Long
Agamand Mills was when the game peaked. Why was it so difficult to find out where the family members spawned? There was always that one bastard who spawned right near the top of the hill behind a windmill, but after you turn your back for one second after you doubt yourself he spawns for someone to steal the kill.
Evan Morales
Its not dead.
Butterflies drink alligator and crocodile tears.
Leo Martin
>When you're a retail cuck trying to convince other people that you're a classic chad
youtube.com
Look at this cringe worthy shit.
Look at his face.
Look at his hat lmao
Landon Smith
It could be dead, or full.
Crocs and alligators, and their immediate relatives are all opportunistic feeders that are lazy as fuck; if they're full and it's not mating season they're usually pretty fine with hanging out with whatever is near them
Alexander Ortiz
I totally agree.
People can say whatever they want. That change alone was the single most damaging decision in WoW's history.
After this, the entire game's structure fell apart.
Parker Johnson
I am going to be a male Tauren restoration Shaman and there's nothing you can do about it
Juan Morris
Cope harder weeb.
Nathaniel Flores
huh, interesting. Tha fish is really dead isn't it? :D
Nathan Long
Based
Angel Sanchez
There's 0% chance of you getting banned basically.
James Parker
Weebs run this site, tranny.
Charles Jones
I am going to roll a Troll warrior and gain 5 HP per second and there's nothing anyone can do about it.
Ryder Walker
Teldrassil will always be home
Brayden Ward
G R E E T I N G S
Easton Martin
rolling for class, hope to get priest
Joseph Mitchell
Have sex.
Lucas King
No
U
Nathaniel Brown
I am going to go a male Orc Warlock or Troll Shadow Priest or Troll Warrior or Troll Elemental Shaman or a Troll Marksmanship Hunter and there's ~LITERALLY~ nothing you can do to stop me
Henry Parker
Did, madly overrated minigame. 6/10.
Andrew Miller
2 Girls don't count you pathetic loser.
Ethan Martinez
Based and redpilled.
Brayden Nelson
Nuh uh yeah they do
Isaiah Wilson
Based
Bentley Carter
>cringe
cringe
William Murphy
Oh wow, you sure showed him.
Lincoln Lee
Threadly reminder that if Hinterlands isn't your favorite Classic zone, then you're a shiteating pleb and probably an Alliancefag as well.
Isaac Foster
Ungoro Crater is where it's really at bro
Leo Walker
rollinnn
Christopher Collins
He showed himself
Aaron Jenkins
yay I love classic WoW I can't wait to pvp
oh wait
Lincoln Mitchell
Drustvar
Fuck boomers and fuck vanilla.
Lincoln Thompson
God Tier:
>human starting zone - good quests, close distances, very dense, single race starts there, connected to other good zones
Good tier:
>dwarf/gnome - okay quests, okay density, but 2 races start there and you will want to travel elsewhere later (likely to westfall)
>night elves - crap quests, crap zone, pretty dense, good followup zone, single race
>NIGGERS NO SHOES tier
>orc/troll = lot of walking, shit quests, 2 races start there, good follow up
>tauren = lot of walking, shit quests, single race start, near crossroads, bad capital entrance
>undead = good quests, dense, but shitty followup and shitty capital, and you want to travel to crossroads instead
Jose Ramirez
user its not OK to lie to yourself about what involves skill and what doesnt
Parker Mitchell
I cant make up my mind so ill pretend im going to follow this picture
Lincoln Murphy
>All these years I thought it was Trisfal Glades.
There is Tiris-Fall, and there is Tiris-Guard, so who the fuck was Tiris, and what were his guards doing when he fell?
Jason Ward
>Moving your fucking fingers is "Skillful"
Do you play the guitar? And no, I don't mean guitar hero
Jacob Carter
Farming (you)s from idiots who don't even attempt to counter you is fun though. Just shows how clueless most shit posters are and how little effort they put into things.
>stop having fun!
Have some pro Naxx raiding tips fellow classicfags.
Christian Edwards
Night elves dont have shoes
Oliver Long
I wish Yea Forums had a downvote button so I could downvote every single one of these pathetic threads
Jaxson Ramirez
Dun Morogh > Tirisfal Glades > Elwynn Forest > Mulgore > Durotar >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Teldrassil
Isaiah Bennett
>Undead
>Shitty capital
>and you want to travel to crossroads instead
Ryan Russell
tirisfal. no doubt.
Nathan Anderson
tirisfal and mulgore are the best
durotar is the undeniable worst
Michael Ortiz
absolutely patrician taste
Chase Green
Have sex change
Oh wait, you already did...
Nicholas Rivera
They have invisible silk slippers that give them +1% dodge.
N O S H O E S
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Elevators in capital are shit.
The multiple circles and having to run a marathon between any given 2 things is shit.
Silverpine Forest will NOT level you up enough, and you will only do the north part and leave for Crossroads.
Too many of the enemies are just generic humans, that are even less diverse than the Quills tribes in Crossroads.
>>>>>>>>>>the gnoll island
Lincoln Anderson
Only true list
Jeremiah Stewart
God I hate alliance fags so much.
Jace Sanchez
>Silverpine Forest will NOT level you up enough
t.skipped quests
Jonathan Bailey
hmm
Nathan Cruz
Aiden Clark
Caleb Watson
t. watched a whole season of his panty anime while waiting for named mob respawns
south silverpine is shit, and the gnoll island is shit
Brody Stewart
This man is in the know.
Julian Turner
I play a bit of piano and a ton of cello, but lately I've just lost all motivation for it. Currently I'm trying to learn Ableton to get into electronic music.
Brayden Sanders
Dun Morogh > First Half of Durotar > Tirisfal > Teldrassil > Elwynn > Second Half of Durotar > Mulgore
Nicholas Hall
>tfw horde virgin
>tfw alliance gets all the cute traps to destroy their guilds and attentionwhore
>tfw no cute trap to shower with gold
>tfw no feminine penises to play with
it's not fair bros why do alliance ALWAYS win
Leo Walker
>Troll hunter in beta
>Tauren hunter in vanilla
Brother was a warlock, it was great times playing together. Let's roll.
David Davis
which FUCKING class do I pick
Aaron Rodriguez
im still never going to do what you tell me but ill ''''roll'''' anyway
Easton Sanders
>tirisfal
>5/5 spooky ghouls trying to live life again
>elwynn
>4/5 noble warriors helping those in need
dun morogh
>5/5 dwarven hearts were warmed upon returning to the warm hearth of the inn
>mulgore
>3/5 bored bullmen enjoyed the beautiful environment
>teldrassil
>2/5 scorched elves enjoyed ashenvale v0.5
>durotar
>1/5 peons were motivated by the monotone desert of mulgore
Hudson Long
Depends.
Dylan Sanchez
That slight Tomb Raider vibe starting at 01:07.
Brayden Campbell
>female dorf BM hunter
Parker Ross
Shaman for maximum fun, and all 3 specs are viable in PvE and PvP
Jonathan Evans
Not really a starter zone but 1k needles was one of the comfiest zones in the game before they fucked it up by flooding it. That feeling you got when it opened up into the dry lake bed was amazing. Bonus if it was at night.
Then finding gadgetzan right over the hill through the cliffs was like you'd stumbled into some oasis after being in the desert for weeks.
This was when the game truly started for me. When I finished all the quests in un'goro I didn't know what to do with myself.
Jack Davis
Mulgore is a lot of monotonous walking but fuck I love that great plains aesthetic
I want to live in Bloodhoof Village just fishing at the lake all day
Alexander King
Got a question for you.
What's better, pseudo-rushing through the game with my first character so I have 1 level 60 just for the hell of it who can farm gold and whatever if needed then leveling alts at my own nice, slow and comfy pace, doing low level dungeons etc etc.
Or just going through the game from the get go slow and comfy without worrying about getting that quick level 60 character?
Grayson Lewis
lmao
Caleb Brooks
Nope. You cant raid as enhancement shammy, and you still cant raid as elem one.
But you still can be a godlike healer and get a good gear for elem/enh without a big trouble.
Cooper Brooks
Whats better is waiting 2 weeks, so that you don't wrestle for boars with the other nostalgic boomers, and then playing throw at a slow pace, letting it soak in, and enjoying now a bit developed market (for example being able to buy a wand).
Connor Thompson
you realize to swap gold both people would have to have the gold on both the right classic server and the right retail server otherwise their gold is worthless to each other
Caleb Roberts
Just get Herbalism and farm lots of money.
Enjoy pvp and "slow" ride to 60.
John Thomas
pic related.
this feel is what I'll be going back for
Charles Baker
>Doesn't understand that you can actually buy game time with Retail's gold.
Good job retard.
Kevin Fisher
go
Jacob Young
>what is Nightfall
fucking idiots
Jayden Stewart
>tfw son of arugal behind a hill
David Hill
>still needs to farm gold.
Matthew Gutierrez
>He still doesn't get it
lmao
Luis Nelson
You still need one fucking friend raid leader who will take you on raids. Because otherwise it does not work and you need only 1 shaman of this kind.
Aiden Parker
*blocks your path*
not him. explain it to me.
Jason Bell
>What are WoW Tokens
Ryder Adams
>you still cant buy gold from cashshops like other mmo do
Blake Wood
I know right? WoW Doesn't do this, at all.
Jordan Williams
I started WoW as a Tauren Hunter during 2007's Christmas, Mulgore was absolute top tier comfy for me as a 13 year old.
Jace Parker
>cant use it on Classic server
>still need to farm gold
John Martinez
is nightfall viable as an offtank weapon?
Tyler Cruz
See
Jack Ward
Muh raids
William Sanders
you mean offtanking as prot warrior? generally you need a fuckton of attack speed for 100% uptime on the debuff, which means you want a huntard spamming Wing Clip or an Enhancement Shaman
Noah King
>I don't like thing!
>How could people possibly like thing!
>REEE STOP LIKING THING!
Retail will still exist. People still have and will always have good and shit taste.
Ryder Perry
>Buy token on Retail and Redeem it for Gold.
>Trade Gold to another Guy so that he can pay off 30 days of game time
>This same guy gives me money on Classic for the service
Seethe harder cunt.
Brayden Perry
>nightfall as an ele weapon
even as an enh you are there for the meme, you're better off contributing to a raid as resto, especially as more horde dps is melee due to windfury
Gabriel Watson
name a more kino zone
Jonathan Anderson
>No space goat's
Into the trash it goes.
Jordan Lewis
>He still doesn't know that Classic and Retail share the same subscription
Kek
Ryder Russell
Yeah, why the fuck not?
Christian Allen
*AHEM*
Jacob Lopez
tirisfal is objectively more kino
Daniel Green
foreskin all the way. makes getting to other zones refreshing after the doom n gloom setting.
though fuck forsaken.
UD>Human>Orc/Troll>Tauren=NE
Evan Bailey
>no futafags shitting up the alliance
>no weeb elf fags shitting up the horde
I can't wait bros.
Classic will be amazing.
Hudson Thomas
>Retail will still exist.
lol not for long if BfA numbers trend keep going down
Lucas Ramirez
Based.
Cucks still deny that this will happen.
Bentley Lewis
Tyr's Fall, same guy who Tyr's Hand is named after. It's where a titan died.
Brayden Long
warlock pls
Adrian Edwards
Why does Yea Forums say that Mail has no spellpower?
Austin Garcia
>this guy still need to farm gold somewhere like a chingpong
>dat kind of service was always have been represented by 3rd party chink dealers
Hunter Cruz
>Farming in Vanilla was hard
Imagine seething this hard.
Brayden Rodriguez
>In other games when your pressing buttons in the right order it utilizes different skillsets.. such as reflexes.. and.. reacting to things (fucking lol by the way on that one)
>When you push buttons and move around in THIS game that's not what you're doing though
Fucking lmao
Elijah Diaz
>time cards was always selling for gold on any server by chinks
Elijah Stewart
Yeet
Jordan Morales
Lmao. Shut up liar.
David Harris
You're posting an item from AQ40 which is after blizzard (generally) got their shit together with itemization. Before that point most Shamans and Paladins wear some hodgepodge of mail, leather, and cloth because of bad itemization.
Gavin Rivera
>people actually arguing about some stupid gold and subscription shit
How fucking poor are you people?
Nolan Rodriguez
>Imagine comming up with non-realistic workarounds that will get you banned just to prove a point.
This happens in Runescape. It will happen in WoW
Kevin Nelson
>This same guy gives me money on Classic for the service
So what happens if he doesn't give you the gold?
Ryder Ward
Is this the kind of autists I can expect in classic? The alah ackbar dude was funny when he yelled it but other than that it was kind of sad.
Dylan Thompson
Unironically, Draenei and Worgen ones.
Aiden Baker
Why do WoW Tokens exist then?
People buy them don't they?
Jack Jenkins
Is this Cataclysm/Legion lore? Don't remember anything about it from when I played.
Ryder Fisher
Okay, let's do it, boys.
Austin Martinez
i aint playin classic but i'm curious
Justin Harris
Who cares if people buy them? Why do you even give a single shit? This doesn't change the gameplay at all and you're all austistic retards screaming about nothing.
Caleb Thompson
Carry runs were a thing during vanilla dude. A guild on my server even sold a dude a hand of rag(gave him the drop and crafted the hammer for him).
Josiah Hill
Orc warlock is probably the most under rated and best lock for PvP. Also troll hunter would be your best bet, that bow specialization will help. Troll priest racial are good for leveling and against melees in PvP, so if you want a le hipster class combo that would be my choice.
Mason Bailey
Your precious "Muh Vanilla" experience will have a Gold Buying Method. This is the same as having a token.
Cope with it.
Julian Diaz
This is it
Tyler Diaz
Someone still needs to farm the gold on Classic, and you won't get even 1/10th of what a token is worth on retail.
Also, it's such a convoluted and risky process, you'll have to find someone who;
>1. Plays on your server
>2. Is the same faction as you
>3. Wants to move money from classic to retail
>4. Has the amount of gold on classic that you can agree on
Point is, it would be easier for the guy to just farm up the gold on retail than it would be to go through all the trouble of farming it on classic to trade it over so very few people are going to go for it, and you're far more likely to just be scammed.
And, I doubt one player having an extra 5k gold is gonna impact classic server economy in the slightest.
Jack Lopez
So? Please explain why this fucking matters?
Adam Moore
Imagine how many streamers are going to legit die from doing dumb 36 hour long streams from exhaustion/blood clots during the AQ war effort just to get some more silithid chitin lmao
Hunter Wright
Your shitty knowledge of economics really is showing.
Isaiah Robinson
Despite being only 13% of the population...
Cameron Bell
>What are exchange rates
Please Ignore this retard. He knows absolutely nothing about this topic.
Ryder Rogers
I'm just gonna hide your post.
Luis James
Let’s see what’s it’s gonna be!
Christopher Perez
fuuuck, why are games so fucking bad now
Parker Watson
Lol, timecards was selling for gold even in 2005 and lots of people buy it, especially on EU, when it released.
You zoomers simply didnt know about chink memes from the "past".
Dylan Flores
This, I really don't get the big deal. Chink gold was never an issue, fucking time cards or tokens or whatever these stupid zoomer fucks are screaming about wont be either. 90% of the population wont even bother with that shit.
Jaxon Myers
which race has the most complete zone storyline progression? I want to take it easy when classic launches and actually read through the quests to soak up all the lore. I'm assuming night elf or human is the way to go?
Elijah Edwards
>Imagine being this proud about being a man child.
Have Sex
David Reed
Nice rebuttal faggot, how about you elaborate?
Christian Gutierrez
>Gold Buying Method.
It was always lol.
Adam Gutierrez
Night elf is absolute trash. Human has the most complex quest chain that literally goes through dozens of levels and multiple zones.
Camden Stewart
>storyline progression
Demon Hunter
Jose Davis
elwynn forest no doubt, but I think because it reminds me when I very first picked up the game back in '05, that summer was amazing, gaming with friends on wow, enjoying the summer, going out, getting drunk, getting laid for the first time. Good memories
Luke Parker
night elf is kino, teldrassil->darkshore->ashenvale is the best gaming experience a man can have
Xavier Adams
Why? Go to College you loser.
Andrew Peterson
What's the zone progression like for humans? sounds pretty comfy
Cooper White
Human->lakeshire->duskwood quests.
Benjamin Baker
>Hurf durf
You've got nothing
Jeremiah Scott
>Timecards
>2019
Good luck. ToS or non ToS it doesn't matter. Enjoy your "selling carries" and "Gear Score" shit show.
You will never go back to Vanilla
Grayson Walker
lol no it's not. It's absolute garbage
You literally fight your first Defias thugs at Level 1 and go all the way to the Deadmines to kill Edwin. There's also a 15? chain quest called the Diplomat which spans like 6 zones and 10+ levels. The whole human zone quest line is continuous and progressive
Isaac Nguyen
What's it gonna be
Gavin Lee
I still dont get why this matters at all? I still haven't seen a single argument this ruins gameplay
Brody Kelly
You still haven't said how the gold and game-time trading can change the gameplay, if it was (((always))) even from the release on US, chinks was a huge meme business on trading gold/codes/cards/time/mount/pets.
Brayden Myers
Imagine thinking vanilla chads give the slightest fuck about gold exchanging
Imagine thinking anybody who actively wants to play vanilla would ruin their time by paying for gold when they could get it themselves, which is what everybody has been waiting and wanting to do for fucking years
Imagine thinking chink gold sellers weren't all over retail back during vanilla days anyway
This is literally nothing new, your shitty little tokens do not change anything at all.
Camden James
ROLL
THE OLD CHARIOT ALONG
Joshua Clark
You're right. I hope they add Tokens to Classic Though. Don't want to pay for a sub to be honest.
Jackson Foster
youtube.com
OH WE'D BE ALL RIGHT IF THE WIND WERE IN OUR SAILS
Elijah Wright
It doesn’t, they’re just retailcucks who are at least deviating from their nostalgia meme trying to shit on classic to help them cope
Evan Wright
rolling for dwarf
Oliver Cook
Sub through farming a token on current WoW if you're that bothered about it, it'll take you less time.
A WoW sub gives you access to both versions.
Xavier Evans
rolling for dwarf warrior, Phister Ironballz!
Aaron Lopez
>Wholesome sea shanties got me a Human destruction warlock
Lucas Clark
>unironically hating on mulgore
BIG YIKES
Brandon Nguyen
I just don't get it. They literally didn't play classic WoW or TBC. Chinese gold farmers were literally so popular that news companies made mini docs about them and there was so much backlash for next to nothing because the game never changed
Nathan Cox
>it'll take you less time.
You have literally no idea about what your talking about. I can see now that the other guy wasn't joking.
Ian Rivera
>Enjoy your "selling carries" and "Gear Score"
Even this kind of shit was in vanilla. Still doesnt matter at all.
Gold still cant change anything, since you can get 20-50k in two weeks-month by trading on auc house like a schizo from wall street.
Dumping prices and the subsequent purchase of everything and overpricing by twice or even higher. It was easy to do, its gonna be easy now.
Jack Campbell
Tell me lads, what to do for semi-serious raiding? Dorf priest for fear ward, or female nelf priest for maximum healslut aestethic?
Jeremiah Brown
...
Brandon Flores
If you dont have a mic then healslut, if you wanna be kino then dorf
Leo Myers
This time, I'll play human. I've never experienced the alliance side of things. I heard they have many more quests and their quests are much better designed. The horde was apparently finished last and their quest areas were rushed.
I'm going to play mage. You can't go wrong. Every raid is going to need as many of them as possible and they're also great in PVP. I'd love to play Druid, but they are simply not viable. HOTs override each other, so you can only have 1 heal druid realistically, Cats are just worse rogues and you'll need to farm at least 30 MCPs per evening and you'll STILL not compete, Tanking as druid is not viable, they can't even tank the horsemen and finally, OOMKin is straight up broken - the weak kind of broken.
It's a shame.
Caleb Johnson
Kayden Foster
>it'll take you less time.
Please stop making ass-pull assumptions. If they added tokens to Classic, it would be the exact opposite due to the sheer influx of players.
Brandon Bennett
Vanilla WOW's bloom effects were fucking 10/10 comfy
Everything now is so muted and dull
Eli Gray
Semi-serious only requires functioning braincells.
Hell even serious raids only require that plus consumables
Lucas Watson
It's really clear playing through alliance that humans were designed first and their were the most fleshed out. After that it's kind of a crapshoot but you can tell Dwarfs were also one of the first races and zones and quests designed as well. Orcs and Undead are the only ones with any thought put into them at all on Horde.
Chase Miller
>Be dorf priest
>Get in because it's 'optimal' but you're nothing special because everybody is running the 'optimal class/race combos
or
>Be night elf priest
>Tell virgin guild leader you're a cute as fuck girl and you'll suck the cum right out of him
>You get priority on anything and everything, he'll even kick out his long term irl buddies for you if you command
The choice is obvious. In fact, it's not even a choice.
Hudson Sanders
I played a dorf from vanilla thorugh wotlk. One the one hand it's comfy territory for me, on the other hand I might want a change of pace instead.
But people have been spouting that fear ward is the absolute optimal priest racial spell and that I'd be a complete idiot not to go for it.
Ryder Taylor
No it's definitely old. maybe the whole Titans idea wasn't fleshed out in 1 or 2 but definitely 3. but Tirisfal was always named after Tyr's Fall
Eli Foster
Top tier:
Mulgore, Tirisfal Glades, Dun Morogh
Mid tier:
Teldrassil, Elwynn Forest
Bottom tier:
Durotar
I will still play troll though
Brandon Wilson
It is an incredibly useful spell.
However it's not so useful that they'll bar competent players if they've already got a decent amount of dwarf priests already
Charles Nguyen
Coom?
Elijah Hernandez
I've finally found what character to rp as: a human priest that became a witch doctor while trying to learn more about alchemy.
Grayson Sanchez
Boy do I have a blog post for you.
>tanking sunken temple the other day, clearing the patrolling drakes after Jammal'an
>engage one outputting the absolute most threat I possibly could
>huntard pulls aggro
>run after it and taunt
>immediately uses its knockback, sending me flying across the area
>towards the middle
>towards the hole
>bump against the side of the hole
>fall in
Jose White
>r you're a cute as fuck girl and you'll suck the cum right out of him
>2k19
>send nudes bitch
Jaxson Sanchez
They’re just running out of ideas. Notice how they can’t argue for why it actually affects the game
David Mitchell
The undead zone seems harder to level and then silverpine kind of sucks. I like the atmosphere though.
They fucking murdered my boy with the Scarlet Crusade. Last I heard they're run by a literal retard and irrelevant in the story?
Grayson Fisher
rollingg
Wyatt Smith
Human females > nelf females
Nathaniel Price
>If they added tokens to Classic
But they won't, so the argument is moot. The only way to get free game time is to farm the gold for a token in current WoW. If they added tokens to Classic then people would complain. And since there's already an easily accessed alternative that would encourage people to play the current content (which Blizzard wants), Blizzard has no reason to do so.
Juan Smith
But the flips when jumping though.
Nathan Long
Is i true that the world will be my oyster if I pick alliance and want to find qt trans players?
Gavin Bailey
You do understand that Classic Will indirectly have access to tokens right? Even If I don't care, that's the only logical conclusion of this whole discussion.
As long as there's a demand for Classic Gold, people will not need to waste time on retail. Not only that, people will not have to buy any more retail expansions.
Easton Barnes
How much of a fag am I if I roll human purely for the rep bonus? That is quite literally the only reason I plan to be a human pally, otherwise I'd be dwarf 100%
Zachary Martinez
Tirisfal glades > Barrens
Juan Roberts
Taking off specs makes sense because it gives you less of other classes and makes less competition for your other classes to gear
Brody Ward
Will big titted goth girls play forsaken?
Carter Campbell
The Orc and Tauren starter zones are dogshit it's not even funny. Nothing but featureless green and orange.
Charles Cooper
>Looking for WoW videos
>This appears in my recommended tab
B-based?
Angel Lewis
Jayden Rodriguez
>big titted
Yes
>girls
No
Leo Lewis
I only sold gold to in real life friends and got banned for gold selling. They paid me irl and I gave them the gold. How the fuck?
Justin Johnson
>Classic doesn't have pic related
And that's why it'll always be garbage.
Tyler Lee
>rolled hunter
>with that image
I don’t think anyone can top this.
David Adams
I hope the 1.4 mounts are in, even for just few months.
Nathaniel Perez
>Not Swapping
Ay lmao. You had it coming dude.
Henry Lopez
Mulgore is slow, but man it is comfy, I might say it the comfiest zone and this is coming from an alliance fag.
Colton Watson
rollin'
Tyler Reyes
I agree durotar is the hellfire of vanilla, its fucking shit! GO BOIL SOME BLOOD!
Caleb Miller
Lucas Butler
If Tauren are peaceloving hippies and earth mother huggers why do Grimtotem exist? Explain that.
Jonathan Campbell
Gimme something gud
Adam Phillips
Go back to Resetera
Jayden Edwards
Not that I care, but why do these monolithic sports even exist?
Lincoln Barnes
Parker Garcia
What does this mean?
Eli Reed
Why not?
Owen Phillips
Why do redditfags continue to post >LE like they are on their shitty website?
Samuel Wright
You only have yourself to blame with ironic shitpsosting.
Asher Bennett
so an extremely convoluted way of buying gold which has been possible in wow from the beginning, somehow that's new and a big problem? Classic will have many servers and getting gold on the right retail and classic server is still an issue which was the point of my post
Jaxon Lopez
>Replying to dead posts
What a fucking retard.
Noah Stewart
>it's so grindy guys
>you nu-wow babies are gonna wash the fuck out xD
did everyone somehow forget that wow was the most casual MMO on the market when it was released, and then got easier from there?
or are we just gonna ignore that
James Watson
Looks weird in a dress imo
Ethan Stewart
Based.
Adam Russell
Which rep you grinding
Oliver Gonzalez
what are you nutcases even talking about, the Forsaken zones are by far the best ones to come out of Cataclysm.
Ayden Mitchell
I was 5 when wow came out lol of course I'd forget
John Mitchell
I remember the first time one of them posted a >le on /v and was met with a dozen responses of people telling them to fuck off. Course we had a separate community and culture back then.
Now with (you)s in place its almost encouraged to bait and shitpost.
The real question is, what is the best horde race and why is it orcs?
Brandon Perry
I hope I get Boogerbones as a name.
Easton Sanchez
it was casual in that it wasn't like ultima online where the meta was to get skullfucked by roaming right wing deathsquads who'd take all your shit
Nolan Watson
go
Mason Young
>the meta was to get skullfucked by roaming right wing deathsquads who'd take all your shit
god i miss old mmos
Henry Bell
this would be ridiculously easy to detect for blizzard if they wanted to do something about it.
Nolan Mitchell
This makes Blizzard money so they won't do shit.
Dominic Johnson
Teldrassil. The music, the ambient sounds, the lore quests, the class quests. All top tier. Banethil Barrow Den will make you into a fucking man.
Gavin Davis
Vanilla WoW With Runescapes old wilderness where you lose everything but 3-4 items on death for your enemy to loot.
Easton Baker
VC > DM
Ryan Clark
Leo Hughes
I want to argue to you, but I don't have a good argument. Because back when Dire Maul came out the conflict between DM for Dire Maul and Deadmines was hardly a thing, people would generally spell it out because back then most people were on their first playthrough. And didn't get upset. In my eyes, DM for both dungeons works because I /who the person advertising and check levels.
Cameron Carter
How hard are raids in vanilla? Forget about clear speed, can you actually finish raids if you have a bunch of weird specs?
I've read a few raiding guides and the class variety sounds boring as fuck, the idea that I can only engage in 50% of the game if I follow a guide\build sounds terrible. I'm just wondering how much leeway there actually is, in Path of Exile for instance people are incredibly gung-ho about perfect builds but you can realistically do all content with lesser builds just at a slower rate.
Juan Garcia
Raids in Vanilla are nothing more than consumable stacking.
Isaac Phillips
There's a private server that does entire world as a FFA and when you die you lose 3 or 4 items that the other person can loot. You also choose which spells you want so there's no real classes
Ian Parker
bros why alliance girls are so hot how horde girls are supposed to compete its not fair???
Luis Hall
>WoW pvp
>Pathetically casual
>Went from playing Lineage 2 for 5 years to playing WoW for 1
>Got max rank in arenas within that short time, smashed every BG, slaughtered everybody in world PvP
>WoW players are trannies and/or virgins who are so starved for attention that they let thots manipulate them completely
>WoW players in general were all garbage at PvP because they've never played a game were PvP was the primary focus
Meanwhile, back on Lineage 2
>Players are so hardcore that they went out and killed people irl from the opposite raid faction (video related guy did this)
>PvP was everything, there was a clear as fuck difference between a shitter and a kino PvPer
>If you wanted your character to have the Hero status you had to actually work at being the best of your class on the entire server because only 1 her could exist of each class, and if somebody else that shared your class beat you next season he would strip you of your hero status
>You could drop gear
Typical Lineage 2 chads -
dvp
Gustavs
youtube.com
youtube.com
WoW virgin 'eceleb' pvpers -
Swifty
Vurtne
How do casual WoWfags even cope knowing that you play such a baby mode game?
Post 2 WoW PvP videos that compare to those 2 L2 videos (which aren't even close to being the best, they're just the only 2 I found that weren't fucking deleted over the years)
Logan Brown
This one came from the stone age.
Eli Kelly
Raids are pretty easy in Vanilla outside of like Naxx. Most of them you have people running all kinds of wacky builds unless you're in a tryhard guild. Don't listen to the guides, one of the best parts about vanilla was class variety.
Andrew Gray
Elwynn > Tirisfal > Mulgore > Dun Morogh > Teldrassil > Durotar
Oliver Garcia
That was the right amount of casual to keep everyone in. Now it's just full casual so not even actual casuals care.
Ryder Myers
You're somehow older than a boomer
Adam Bell
there's actually no valid argument for using VC rather than DM because nobody runs or advertises a run as just DM (dire maul) there's DM East DM North, DM West and tribute runs, none of which you would say just lfg DM for
Cooper Wood
this
it's like at this point WoW only wants the "I don't even play this game" audience
Wyatt Rogers
Fuck off ancientfag, it's been like 20 years why are you still arguing about which game is better when they're both fossils?
Brody Cruz
>Kino
Mulgore
>God tier
Dun Morogh
Teldrassil
Silverpine
>Great tier
Elwynn
>Mid tier
Durotar
Brandon Nguyen
It's 2019, you have to let it go man.
Gavin James
I am not sure I agree with this, I also played lineage2 for a good 4 years before switching over to wow. It was different play styles for wow and L2. A lot of l2 world pvp was the unknow of how strong someone was and trying to guess based on gear. in wow you knew right away because you could see their level. L2 had some of the best group pvp ever. Doing TOI and wiping a group who was prepping for bosses then snaking their boss kills. L2 was more hardcore for sure tho.
Dylan Evans
okay, I agree with that.
Alexander Scott
Stop dude. It's pretty pathetic.
Xavier Ortiz
rallin
Nathan Taylor
Bro just because I mentioned lineage2 I am the same dude? Llineage2 objectively had better group based world pvp. compared to wow. Wow had better battlegrounds and arena when they came out.
Go be a zoomer somewhere else my dude.
Cooper Barnes
Nice paint skills.
Levi Green
>Played a private server called L2Extreme
>Always wanted to join Evil Council
>They had strict recruiting
>I was an absolute God at pvp
>Filled out their shitty little recruitment form
>Go to sleep
>Wake up the next day, excited as fuck, check the reply they sent back
>Declined
>I'm seething, end up finding where they were grinding
>They were in one of the catacombs
>I roll in on my Orc Overlord, there's like a party and a half of them farming
>Walked up to them and gave some monologue that would probably be cringy in this day and age about how I'm the one they turned down
>Opened up on them
>Killed them all
>Strolled out leaving a room of Evil Council faggots bodies behind me
And in that moment I was ~euphoric~
Thomas Lopez
Thanks
Grayson Barnes
In those 2 videos you linked, a guy is slaughtering people by pressing literally 3 buttons
So fucking hardcore
Joseph Evans
Troll hunter go
Ayden Barnes
L2Extreme brings back memories. I played on Staris I was in Old School if you remember those dudes, we used to face roll everyone p1ng the leader somehow had a +16 carnage bow.
Tyler Jenkins
thats pretty badass actually
Hudson Brooks
Undead > human > Orc / troll > Dwarf / gnome > nelf > Tauren
Levi King
I had the absolute worst luck with enchanting gear. I think I had like +6-+8 shit at absolute most. My irl mate was a lucky fucker though when it came to enchanting.
It was admittedly pretty fucking great, I have fond memories of that particular moment. I woulda looked pretty fucking dumb if I got bodied after my monologue though.
Lucas Smith
Don't worry man....I'm soulstoned.
Bentley Diaz
In sum, Durotar sucks ass. Good thread.
Robert Gray
in 2007 I learned there was a trick to enchanting that got patched in interlude, enchanting success rate rng was based on server time. I knew a guy who figured it out on retail and played the market, he had well over 5 billion adena. It was insane, but the dude was an absolute sperg, he botted 4 accounts and played the market all day. He sucked at pvp.
Juan Adams
What kind of fucking imbalanced shit was in place where a single player could legitimately 1vX and win against equal strength players
Jordan Martinez
Tab-target hotbar spamming is not PvP. If anyone thinks they're hot shit for any MMO PvP they need to fuck themselves off a bridge.
Joshua Wood
Dwarf > Tauren > Undead > Pornshire > Orc > Night Elf
Don't get me wrong, Teldrassil is pretty fucking amazing, but not for the hundred time when you just want to fucking do your pilgrimage. Dun Morogh is best at night with the comfy ass music and a snowstorm
Brody Parker
t. absolute shitter who has never pvp'd but always claimed 'he could if he wanted' LMAO
Austin James
>>>/retail/
>>>/moonguard/
Christian Thomas
Pure skill.
It's why people in L2 could go against their exact same class who has better gear than them and win.
Easton Torres
>Heh, this thing takes no skill even though competent participants would fucking tear my asshole wide open at it
Inhale buckshot faggot, you're literally that kid
Jaxon Nelson
No i mean mechanically, like give me a non meme answer, ill assume some skill is required obviously but that is not what im asking
What kind of tools did you have available that stopped you from immediately being CC'd and gangbanged to death by 5 people?
Lincoln Rogers
well... I saw some weird cheese in my day, there was an orc class that had no bow specialization but with their p.attack buffs and crit, they could destroy other pure bow classes like hawkeye or the silver/phantom rangers. It also took a lot of prep to do but it was stupid.
Asher Diaz
>What kind of tools did you have available that stopped you from immediately being CC'd and gangbanged to death by 5 people?
M8 the class I was playing has (and this is just off the top of my head, I haven't played in like 10+ years) a single target stun, sleep and fear and a retarded amount of AoE debuffs that range from - debuffing attack speed, aoe rooting, debuffing move speed, an aoe silence, aoe debuff enemies skill cooldowns, aoe hp and mana dot, and an aoe poison
The class had so many debuffs that you'd knock off all of the enemies buffs because there wasn't enough room to keep them all on along with the debuffs, you had so much CC and debilitating attacks that you could render everybody else useless and the BEST thing about the class was its one actual damaging attack, which was a spammable ranged life drain spell which heals you for 80% of the damage done.
So you'd go in, sleep the main threat, debuff the fuck out of everybody, silence the casters/healers (silence was hard to land though, debuffs in L2 aren't like WoW, if they land it's usually game over straight up, like things like silence last like 40 seconds, so mages can't do shit while it's up, necromancers had a fucking spell called Anchor which just straight up immobilized you for 3 minutes or something retarded and that was game over if it landed).
So yeah, run in, stand close enough to land your close range aoe debuffs, sleep the threat, , stun spam the healer while spamming life drain and keeping out of melee range of the now slowed as fuck melee fighters, then they should be sufficiently weak enough to not be able to break through how much you're life stealing.
Keep in mind the class I'm talking about is a debuffer mostly that had huge mana problems, but on private servers mana pots weren't as hard to come by so you could bypass the mana limit (along with everybody else though) which was the main thing holding it back.
Alexander Young
Mulgore >> Durotar > Dun > Elwynn / Teldrassil >>> Tirisfal
Jose Gonzalez
flip this list completely and it would be accurate
Dylan Baker
Other classes could pull of retarded things too though
>Play an Orc destroyer
>See a group of people
>Run away, aggro a monster and let it hit me to 30% of my health
>I can now activate an ability called frenzy (there was a few other abilities you could activate at 30% hp too, I think one was called Zealot?)
>Frenzy makes your attack stat sky high
>Run back down to where the group was before the frenzy buff ran out (1 minute or so I think)
>1 shot literally everybody with a single auto attack
Orc destroyers got a skill called lionheart which made them resistant to a lot of CC too so it wasn't as easy to pin them down, though they had no movement abilities and were slow as shit, so they were vulnerable to kiting which is why a lot of destroyers carried bows to use while frenzied which still hit for a ton but not as much as a 2 handed sword and the accuracy was horrendous
They also had a shit ton of health
I remember chasing some light elf archer for an hour and 20 minutes, he was kiting me so well, being extra careful, i was nearly dead but he couldn't tell since you can't see enemy health in L2
He made one mistake and got greedy and went for 2 attacks instead of one and I stunned him and killed him in an instant, lel
Justin Flores
I'm curious if they're going to implement what they make for classic into retail and give the option to do classic questing and cata questing through phasing.
William Long
did you also play on dragon network? I remember making mana potions with Orc fingers. Some custom drop mobs had.
Gavin Gomez
Oh okay, so classes had ways of just straight up instantly ending people basically, that sounds p cool
Dylan Jenkins
Yep, also when I mentioned that Anchor spell earlier and I said it immobilizes, I don't just mean it roots you in place but you can still perform actions, no, I mean it straight up stops you from moving, attacking, using any items, doing any action what so ever and you can be hit freely by anybody and it won't wear off like a Sleep CC for example. If that shit landed, you just died and it lasted fucking 3+ minutes or something dumb.
Also get this, the dagger using classes could 'lethal strike' their hits which would reduce the other players health to 1 instantly. One of the videos posted earlier had a duel between 2 dagger users and one of the dagger users got lucky and landed a lethal strike during the first 2 seconds of the fight and then still lost lmao
Nah, I don't recall playing on Dragon Network. I did play an awful lot of private servers though. Like an absurd amount, I just can't remember most of their names since it's been so fucking long, even though a lot of them were actually better than L2Extreme, that's just the most nostalgic one I can think of.
Nothing beat joining a private server which had donators on it with their +16 gear, boss jewels, and whatever else they bought with daddies credit card and fucking smashing them though despite having shitty +3 gear on yourself.
James Bell
Honestly why would you want to?
Even to this day you can notice the immense drop in quality of questing between going from the revamped areas to BC areas.
And if I remember correctly the classic quests were even worse with having to farm ~15 bodyparts of some animal were only every third or fourth animal drops one.
The only thing I really miss is old Tirisfall because the Forsaken just don't work if you aren't breaking free from the Lichking's controll
Connor Butler
I dunno the appeal of questing and stuff by myself is pretty appealing.
Having to get a group together to quest seems tedious.
Ryan Ward
Why are you playing an MMO then? Serious question.
Josiah Phillips
I did start with Vanilla WoW and then tried the New WoW and found it lacking now the Only one I actually play is Lotr because thats pretty much free.
Bentley Stewart
>wow
>needing to group
It was literally a design philosophy of vanilla that leveling alone was easily doable
Angel Nelson
In Nu WoW I defeated a quest boss by myself that took a small group to do the quest for in Vanilla.
Of course I'm always a rogue.
Ryder Bennett
I guess just to mix things up. Cataclysm questing is better mechanically, but I absolutely hate the lore for each zone which consist of nothing but pop culture references and jokes. At least on the Alliance side.
Lucas Cruz
>In Nu WoW I defeated a quest boss by myself that took a small group to do the quest for in Vanilla.
That's gotta pretty hard considering the entire world got revamped with Cataclysm.
And that's not even taking into account the 2 or 3 stat squishes that happened.
Depends a lot on the zone, I remember really liking the new Silverpine and Southshore on Horde. But then I've always been a fan of the Forsaken
William Fisher
Best I can describe the quest is that I had to kill elementals to gather materials to summon a large woman who spawns earth elementals and I was able to do the whole fight all by my lonesome.
This was in the Nu WoW.
Old WoW had the samequest but I had to group up to do it.
Cameron Miller
I am really looking forward to celebrating Classic WoW. To me the game is a great excuse to hang out with hilarious old friends. We've had adventures in retail with competitive raiding, 2900+ arena, and 2600+ rbgs. When it came to world pvp it didn't matter what server we were on, we were legends and alliance ventrillos were abuzz when we hit a city. Even with the obvious balance issues the game stayed interesting to us thanks to the heated competition.
Most of us started in BC so I guess I don't have the best perspective on what it was to be competitive in true Vanilla. I have however spent time experimenting on private servers and I have to say I'm a bit pessimistic about being competitive in the end game. To maximize the response to this post I'm going to use inflammatory language. I'm worried that I'll be lumped in with 1300 shitters who succeed because of the low iq combat. The difference between a brainlet and an experienced player gets blurry with Classic's low skill ceiling. On one hand I know I should get over it
and enjoy the adventure with old m8s. On the other hand I know once I'm in max level pvp I'm going to be frustrated that I'm effectively no different than the mouth breathing no lifer next to me. Were we playing at any time between BC-BFA they'd be forced to permalog from shame. For the record I played BC, Wrath, MoP and the first season of Legion and BFA.
In summary people who think Classic is difficult are delusional. A chimp could do end game raiding in Vanilla. If you can succeed in the dumpsterfire that is retail, you can be a god in Vanilla, just throw away all of your spare time. Esfand's highest rating ever is 2k but he's considered by many to be a legend in Vanilla. You see this a lot with big names in Classic pvp, just typing it makes me cringe.
Levi Barnes
How about you use actual descriptors what means old and nu in this context
Josiah Murphy
So I’ve always wanted to play wow but could never get much into it, the first time I played it was around pandaria then didn’t play much after, same story with a lot of other mmo
Can somebody tell me whats the appeal of classic and why is it better? I might wanna give it a try again
Aiden Moore
plus Barrens chat is dead. And Rogues dont get the old Thistle Tea quest anymore or if they do I dont know where to get it. I eventually went online to find the recipe. Spent a few levels travelling to find the vendor that sells it.
Luis Jones
Nu WoW means Current WoW?
Dominic Ross
And old means?
At this point Cataclysm is over 8 years old
Landon Lopez
>In summary people who think Classic is difficult are delusional.
Cringe. Vanilla is much harder than the more recent raids.
>hurr don't stand in the fire
That's TBC+ raiding comes down to.
Gearing up for each vanilla raid is more skill intensive than TBC+ raids.
Daniel Phillips
Old is Classic or Vanilla WoW in my terms.
Basically I found New WoW piss easy when it came to levelling and no one talked.
Julian Martinez
>Vanilla is much harder than the more recent raids.
By what metric? A fucking 5 man dungeon tank and spank boss in retail is more mechanically complex than most MC bosses
What makes the raids difficult? And no having gather up 40 people or grinding for resistance gear is not difficult. Only time consuming.
Brody Morgan
I'm a newfag who loves trying MMOs but never played WoW in any capacity until Nostalrius (a famous vanilla private server) got shut down. All the drama around that time finally convinced me to try the game on another private server and I fell in love with it. The best way to sum it up is vanilla WoW feels well rounded and polished. And by "well rounded" I mean it's a nice balance between the hardcore design of older MMOs and casual daily login fueled modern MMOs. Stuff takes time and the content can be challenging, but there are plenty of convenience features that make it pleasant instead of a total grindfest. PvE has interesting content, and there's multiple ways to enjoy PvP as well. Class balance is far from perfect, but the unique utility of each ensures that each has a use at all levels of content in both PvE and PvP. Now take all of that and add one of the world's most popular fantasy franchises with the associated world, characters, and lore. You now have a game that offers something to almost everyone at any skill level, without feeling like it had to make compromises to do so.
Dylan Cruz
I mean you just straight up couldn't have had the same quest because everything in classic got revamped.
And leveling in classic wasn't hard either, just more of a timesink because you had to eat every few pulls. Obviously it has to go faster in retail because Blizzard is following the philosophy that leveling from 1 to max level should take roughly the same every expansion
Jace Perry
elwynn forest > everything else besides durotar > durotar
Jacob Ramirez
okay smarty pants. the classes in retail are homogenized to the point of not having any specific use or identity. Classic has classes with identity and specific uses only THEY can do. Alrighty lets speed that up by three and....nope retails classes still have no identity and fast classic still has better classes. bing bang boom sucka dick retail cuck
Bentley James
I remember the quest fondly from Classic WoW and it was the same quest just easier.
Leo Murphy
but I pretty much played Troll Rogues and soloed stuff. Would team up for quests that had lots of adds mainly to keep myself from getting mobbed.
Evan Johnson
>And no having gather up 40 people or grinding for resistance gear is not difficult.
Yes it is. You don't get to decide what is and isn't difficult like that. It takes effort to get that gear, therefore it's difficult, you don't get to just hop from raid to raid like in retail. You want to run Molten? You get fire resist, you then work your way up to AQ40, but you ain't getting in straight away, you need to go out and earn your nature resist, same deal with Naxx.
>A fucking 5 man dungeon tank and spank boss in retail is more mechanically complex than most MC bosses
lel, no it isn't. I mean you're sat here saying working for your resistance gear has no difficulty yet another boss with a shitty 'don't stand on the burning floor' mechanic now constitutes as being difficult? But let me guess, needing to come up with a strat like using 8 tanks for the 4 horsemen isn't difficulty right? The shit people had to go through to figure out such a strat on a boss fight that was perceived as nigh impossible is testament to how difficult it was, people had to deviate from their normal raid group foundation just to deal with it.
That's actual difficulty. Moving out of slow easily viewable ground fire isn't. You'd have to be a drooling mouthbreathing retard to think otherwise.
Andrew Price
Guess you've never done mythic raiding. Naxx being overtuned isn't a great example for you btw, it's just bad design. Increasing the damage and health of a boss isn't the same has having technically difficult mechanics that involve your raid working together. The average player is just better now, raids were hard in vanilla because everyone was shit comparatively.
>Gearing up for each vanilla raid is more skill intensive than TBC+ raids.
>timesink=skill
ah nevermind this post is just bait.
Jordan Young
>the best starter zone is the worst
Nigga wtf are you doing
Henry Cruz
>the classes in retail are homogenized to the point of not having any specific use or identity
Define class identity please.
And use is just straight up wrong.
Mason Martinez
>BM is more than just a leveling spec
Nigga it's the best PvP spec too, watching some fag get ripped to shreds by your pet clifford is pure sex
Brandon Miller
timesinks don't require skill you mouthbreathing retard
Jaxson Morales
ssshhhhh, don't ruin my grift, man.
Parker Garcia
>needing to come up with a strat like using 8 tanks for the 4 horsemen isn't difficulty right?
But that isn't MC, and also was only done by a small number of people, which got their strat copied like everything else in WoW.
Caleb Howard
cow zone is best zone
Robert Harris
>Gearing up for each vanilla raid is more skill intensive than TBC+ raids.
This is your brain on private servers.
Joshua Fisher
>The average player is just better now, raids were hard in vanilla because everyone was shit comparatively.
Literally the most braindead post in this thread.
Give me one reason why there is no skill involved in gearing properly for something.
You literally can't you room temp IQ tranny.
Time to crawl back to retail you casual shitter, you're not even going to make it through Uldaman in Classic lmao
Isaac Rogers
>it just takes time, it's not hard
has there ever existed a more surefire way to spot garbage players than this line?
Sebastian Gray
i'm fairly sure they will be
Carter Morgan
Nu WoWs Auction House was all fucky too. Someone was trying to sell something for like a million gold I believe,
Stayed away from there and just picked enough flowers til I levelled.
Zachary Campbell
>Classic is going to have paladins for horde
>Classic is going to have transmogging
>Classic is going to have mage tables
>Classic is going to have sharding
They had one job and they fucked it as hard as possible.
John Sullivan
they're niggers, tauren only found peace and the earth mother after they exiled their nigger brethren.
John Brooks
>paladins for horde
dude what the fuck? link?
Jason Perez
>he doesn't remember for how much the spectral tiger sold and still sells
Michael Jones
We're tranny's because we think mindless grinding takes no skill? A bot could gear for vanilla raids, bots do gear for vanilla raids. You would really love runescape. Wrath+ raids have dynamic fights that take some time to master, it's not just "get enough gear to down the boss." On top of that, combat rotations have come a long way. Bfa and Wod were steps backwards but compared to vanilla they're rocket science.
Dominic Price
I know I'm not a WoW veteren as I eventually grew bored but I never knew a spectral tiger was a thing.
Austin Hernandez
Ion confirmed a bunch of shit in the last Q&A
Andrew Carter
dang u showed them
Bentley Robinson
He's baiting and got you to bite hard. Lurk more and learn the signs of obvious shitposting:
>not replying to anyone
>greentext
>list of mostly outrageous claims with no source
>opinion that goes against that of the thread it's in
Christopher Howard
>Wrath+ raids have dynamic fights that take some time to master, it's not just "get enough gear to down the boss.
You can tell this is the exact type of nigger who cried his eyes out begging for Cthun nerfs.
There's nothing dynamic about 'dude just don't step in the fire lmao', that gimmicky garbage does nothing to increase the difficulty.
The twin emperor in AQ are far more challenging than any raids in the past 5 expansions. Their gimmick actually serves a purpose and directly increases the difficulty.
Benjamin Murphy
>Literally the most braindead post in this thread.
Yeah players who've played WoW for over a decade haven't gotten any better at the game. At no point has them getting better forced blizzard to raise the skill ceiling. Mythic raiding in BFA is easier than Vanilla. You are truly enlightened.
Reading shit like this might actually save me from playing.
Thomas Robinson
Pretty much agree except for Tauren being so low, I'd put them above or below Humans, not sure.
And Dwarf/Nelf are pretty much tied for me.
Levi Gonzalez
I thought you were joking the first time you made the "don't stand in the fire" joke. You should actually read up on what happens in mythic raids now, it's several times more difficult than anything in babymode vanilla. This is from someone who hates BFA.
Levi Thomas
MMO skill is based on your social abilities not your characters actual actions. Before dungeon finder came along you were pushing any content unless you could talk to people
Mason Mitchell
Honestly more excited for starting zone and early/mid game questing than endgame content. Can't wait to make and quest with tons of new characters in these old zones
Andrew Wright
AHEM.
>comfiest environment
nelf/dwarf
>best questing experience
undead
mulgore, elwyn, durotar are some of the blandest zones in the game.
Christian Scott
Man that sounds fucking cool and i kinda wanna play it now but it seems its degenerated into a F2P whalebait game now so that is unfortunate
Here is hoping i will get to experience a Lineage 3
Ryan Fisher
>Reading shit like this might actually save me from playing.
Hopefully it does. The less skilless retail shitters we get bawwing about needing to gear appropriately to run the definitive WoW raids the better. Go back to your clown raiding on retail
>Slow fireballs hitting the floor in massive rooms with plenty of time and space to avoid them
>Conveyer belts for maximum wackyness to attract people who share your toddler mindset
>'the boss is weakened hero! run to the button to activate the discombobulator spickity sprocket ray to fire at him'
Pure cringe tbqhwy.
AQ40 and Naxx are peak WoW raid difficulty. NuWoW raids can't even match BRD in terms of difficulty.
Christian Perez
>AQ40 and Naxx are peak WoW raid difficulty. NuWoW raids can't even match BRD in terms of difficulty.
Imagine actually being this retarded
Eli Jackson
>>'the boss is weakened hero! run to the button to activate the discombobulator spickity sprocket ray to fire at him'
My sides
Christopher Robinson
He's right though.
Cameron Brooks
Wrath raids onwards were vanilla mechanics dialed to 11 though? How can you call them easier when they literally import the mechanics but add more on top of it?
Matthew Morales
OLD HARD
NEW EASY
Samuel Barnes
It's nice of you to make it clear that you're braindead
Zachary Lopez
Either this is bait or someone needs to call an insane asylum ASAP. Imagine joining a guild and realizing someone this stupid is going to be raiding with you. Imagine listening to this idiot unironically say this shit in voice mid raid.
Chase Sanchez
>Guy claims WoW is easy
>Can never post his ahead of the curve
Like clock work
Kayden Hughes
>The chad Classic raids
youtube.com
The virgin nuWoW raids
youtube.com
>SEETHING retail trannies
OH NO NO NO NO LMAO
LOOK AT THE TOP OF THEIR HEAD LMAO
Time to go back to your crib playing your toddler NUblizzard approved handholding raids to make sure nobody dies
Chase Perry
>Retail cucks actually trying to pretend that any raid in the past 10 years has been hard
Yeah thats gonna be a big yikes from me I'm afraid.
Jonathan Martin
>1 attack
>Wipes out 3/4 of the raid
>Entirety of Garrosh fight
>Nothing happens
I'm glad I stopped playing after Wrath.
Gavin Davis
Connor Green
C'thun
youtube.com
Jaina
youtube.com
Also take a second to think about how much more difficult damage rotations are in retail when compared to babymodevanilla.
Leo Harris
i just buy mine for 150k every time hehehehe
Owen Carter
Nelf=Dwarf>undead>human>orc>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>power gap>tauren
Connor Turner
He chose the end boss in WoD for a reason, lumping every expansion after Vanilla together. Weird how opinionated people who've never done retail fights are about the comparison between Vanilla and retail. I hate BFA but I'm not going to pretend it's easier than Vanilla.
John Cox
Literally every Mythic raid in MoP, Legion, and BfA is lightyears ahead technically from anything in Vanilla. Youtube boss guides on them and weep.
Jackson Miller
WoW raids are always fun, I don't see why people are cherrypicking ones they don't like.
Camden Diaz
Wasn't Garosh the endbos of Pandaria?
Jaxson Gutierrez
>C'thun
>Based, difficult in all of the right ways, can wipe you instantly from the most mildest of mistakes
>Jaina
>Gimmicky garbage having you doing random trash throughout the fight to do two things.
>1. Distract you from the fact that the fight is trash and that nothing is even happening.
2. Give the illusion that doing more thing (regardless of how piss easy and dull they are) throughout the fight equates to difficulty
I'm gonna have to give this one to C'thun
Youtube boss guides do nothing but reinforce what I've said, that nuWoW raids are garbage filled with gimmicky trash to make toddlers clap because they don't have the attention spans to be able to pull off the classic raids which give them far too much trouble.
I bet you're one of the shitters who complained about C'thun when he was released.
Luke Price
Cataclysm made nearly all group content soloable. i took screenshots (long gone) of my lv 40 dwarf warrior in Wrath vs Cata and he could do 3x the dmg after the patch
many quests were virtually the same. copy pasted into cata, not EVERYTHING got redone
Tyler Rodriguez
Fuck off frogposter
Jaxson Myers
>cleared naxx fortee
>grand marshall
>glad season 1/2/3/4
>cleared kj mythic
>3k m+ score legion
>3k m+ score bfa
seething noobs itt
Joshua Miller
>things are happening to distract you from nothing happening
Did you fry your brain at some point?
Samuel Barnes
>Based, difficult in all of the right ways, can wipe you instantly from the most mildest of mistakes
You realize the same thing happens in mythic raiding right? The difference is if you fail literally any mechanic you wipe.
From the way you argue it sounds like they could literally release classic branded as "retail wow" and you'd call it gimmicky shit because it's labeled retail. It could be the exact same fight and you'd say it's trash and nothing's happening.
Jose Roberts
Look up any class rotation in Mop and then compare it to what you're doing in Vanilla.
Tyler Roberts
If you honestly don't see how backwards your reasoning is you should talk to a counselor.
Jose Nguyen
I'd love to see your "argument" how Conclave of the Chosen has nothing happening either
Chase Long
>We need to activate the 'insert literally any dumb piece of machinery/vehicle from nuWoW raiding here' to stop some garbage from happening
That is a textbook example of fuck all happening.
>The difference is if you fail literally any mechanic you wipe.
Pretty sure nobody has ever been braindead enough to fail to press a button or attack a catapult on time.
Colton Price
No I mean you called him the endboss of WoD when he was an expansion earlier
Benjamin Cooper
>Pretty sure nobody has ever been braindead enough to fail to press a button or attack a catapult on time.
I guess I'm talking at a wall, you won't acknowledge the actual retail fight mechanics so we can't really have a conversation about the differences between them and vanilla. Get well soon retard.
Christopher Rogers
>Conclave of the Chosen
youtube.com
>First thing the guy says is 'A lot of this fight is just don't stand in the bad'
You cannot make this shit up.
The absolute state of retail clowns lmao
Retail has non of that garbage. It's just you vs the boss, not you mildly dealing with the boss while attending to some minigame trash.
William Harris
oh my bad
Wyatt Bennett
Assuming that you mean the ballista it literally adds more movement and necessary coordination with other raid members.
Nathaniel Jenkins
CLASSIC* has non of that garbage
Fixed that up before one of you spergs shit the bed.
Angel White
So you're going to cherry pick the easiest fights to post? If we do that vanilla it's tank and spank so maybe don't go that route.
Blake Torres
>not stand in the fire
That's 2.5 out of 11 mechanics
Nathaniel Ortiz
>Retail has non of that garbage. It's just you vs the boss, not you mildly dealing with the boss while attending to some minigame trash.
Are you ignoring all of the fight mechanics on purpose? Will this conversation really end in you saying you were just pretending to be retarded?
Henry King
What are the other 8.5 mechanics? Humour me.
I'm taking the fights you fags are recommending yourselves, then as soon as I pick them apart piece by piece it's cherry picking? lmao come on now.
I'm ignoring gimmicky trash which doesn't add to the difficulty.
Adrian Martinez
> insta kill lazer beam is cool
> other insta kill attacks are gimmicky trash that adds no difficulty.
Ok I'm gonna have to tap out, no one is paying me to be a tard wrangler.
Grayson Sanders
I didn't know that instakill lazer beam had me doing non fight garbage like pressing switches, running on conveyer belts, jumping in vehicles, pressing switches, messing around with ballistas or anything.
Oh wait, no, that's right, it doesn't do any of that trash. You just have to avoid it. What a fucking novel concept.
Nathan Nguyen
This is not a nostalgia bias. Played Tauren/Troll for the majority of the game.
nelf > dwarf > human > tauren > undead >>>> orc