Are there any other games that actually have unexpected twists that make you feel empty and cheated?

>teleports in front of you
>violently kills the little kid who's been tagging along with you for hours
>kills your entire party with fire
pssh, nothing personnel kid

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Yes, it is that bad. It's a miserable slog.

The only thing I liked about the game were the environmental effects. Using thunder spells to take out bridges, using ice to freeze over rivers.

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Lagrange Point

The scene in question:
youtube.com/watch?v=bmpFWBceFlE

I just think you're being overly critical of the slow engine. Bahamut Lagoon would make a killer game if it were updated with today's standards.

Why don't games do shit like this anymore? Or rather, why is it so rare.

Having children dying is a pretty easy way to get an AO rating.

There really needs to be more ways of making the player feel empty during story elements.

The whole game is bananas
>gay wizards
>can make dragons eat drugs, pubes, booze and even their own shit
>main character is a total sociopath who doesn't go to parties, is passive agressive towards his childhood crush's boyfriend, can hire assassins to kill his own crewmembers, gets high from eating dragon dung, steals from his friends and in the end fucks off with into nowhere on his dragon
>fire-elemental spear called Auschwitz
>main game is so broken that halfway through it turns from a turn based strategy game into what could be described as execution runs
>those special and secret dragon forms - Jesus Christ, what the fuck

Is this game actually good? I've heard it's popular in Japan.

Did you not play Nier: Automata?

>>those special and secret dragon forms - Jesus Christ, what the fuck
What are they?

>and in the end fucks off with into nowhere on his dragon
It still hurts, man. Imagine devoting your life to someone and then having it blow up in your face and you can't do anything about it because you're the world's hope at making the world a not shit place.

And also a victory orgy scene.

Here's an example.

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shrines.rpgclassics.com/snes/bl/common.shtml

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pretty much any
>le you were in a dream/the afterlife/coma the whole time.
plot. That shit is mad gay and robs the story of any purpose. Why should I give the slightest shit about your setting when it can't be fucked to even exist within the bounds of fiction?

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I miss RPG Classics. Whenever I got stuck on an RPG as a kid, I would go to the "shrines" there and look at their walkthroughs. RIP.

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This description is giving me Drakengard vibes.
Are the two at all comparable?

In Japan she's flat out known as part of Squaresoft's Unholy Trinity of Bitches.

It's a shame stuff like this doesn't happen more often. For as much as a smack to the face it is, it's at the very least extremely memorable.

Why this game has so much soul?

It's pretty good. Fantastic soundtrack, interesting setpieces. Easy to break too - there's a glitch that can get you 40 levels of EXP early on in the game.

See that little bit in the bottom left corner where it says squaresoft? Thats why.

Who are the other two?

Wtf,? How and where?

>I've heard it's popular in Japan.
Much of the notoriety comes from Oregi and the aforementioned scene. It's considered "childhood trauma" for a lot of people.

'Sup guys, I heard y'all like me?
youtube.com/watch?v=QE7bNMBtJUs

>Other people have played Bahamut Lagoon
Sometimes Yea Forums is not faggots
>Rush has become a man
>Truce has become a man
>Bikkebakke was already a man
And Byuu died a virgin

I bet one of them is the princess from Live a Live. My boy Oersted deserved better.

Alicia from Live a Live and Mireille from Makai Toshi SaGa.

After the liberation of that desert city where you get the assassins your crew gets to spend some quality time in the harem.

Best song in the entire game.
youtube.com/watch?v=9tX2PVaPdfc

I don't remember the plot for Drakengard I just remember it made me not want to play it after I beat it.
I also remember not having much trouble with the final boss which people often complain about despite the fact that I'm pretty bad at rhythm games and I don't play any.

>Alicia
Yeah that one's obvious in hindsight, blanked on that for some reason. Haven't played the first couple of SaGa games though so wouldn't have guessed that one.

I was listening to the OST on YouTube and it sounds great. I'll definitely check it out.

First off, Japan is kinda weird. The term is "Three Unholy Women", but there are actually four.

Yoyo is considered the reason the term exists at all. Everything bad that happens to everybody is her fault. Her pixiv page has a huge section just dedicated to shitting on her. Princess Alicia from Live A Live is just a cunt, so bad that the author of the game hates her too.

Then there's the aforementioned SaGa chick, and Rinoa from FF8 is sometimes considered one of them as well.

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Damn, I initially thought this thread would get no replies. Pretty awesome to see the discussion it generated.

I really want to fuck this YoYo, god damn.

That's too bad! You can go fuck yourself! She has General Chad's dick to ride.

I think that's why I loved it so much. The entire thing is bonkers. You forgot that there's a fire spear named Auschwitz.

Can you hire assassins to kill Yoyo

Only the best girls may be posted in this thread.

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It's right there.

Best thing was that in the translator notes Tomato spent an entire paragraph about how the translation may seem like the work of some edgy romhacker but none of this shit was his doing to spice up the translation - the game really WAS that fucked up.

You can but they'll only be successful when you choose to kill a random no-name crew member.

What's the point of assassinating your own crew?

Someone sell me on this game

This thread got me interested in playing Bahamut Lagoon, but when I tried the english fanpatch, for some reason a lot of the text (mainly for items) is just jumbled-up garbage or just completely missing. Any ideas what the deal is? I'm pretty sure the patch I'm using is fine. Does it maybe not work with SNES9X for whatever reason?

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Also
>main character can steal the lifesavings of a poor family and all he has to say about it is "lol, take a guess who won't make it through this war"
>is totally A-OK with torturing POWs
>can put his ear on the door and listen to Yoyo shlicking
>buys hardcore porn magazines from his pals

Honestly I did not enjoy bahamut lagoon at all, despite being a big fan of the genre. The battles were thoroughly unenjoyable as there's never any risk of losing and it's annoying that only your teams with light infantry can move. The dragons are also rather lame in practice, you just pump them full of shrooms and you're set for the rest of the game. The one cool thing was that elemental magic could affect the terrain (e.g. freezing water so you can walk on it). Also having the crew of playable characters you could talk to between missions would have been good if I didn't hate everyone.

Nothing
Just to further hammer down the fact that the main character is a humungous asshole.

It's just a gag.

>I'm pretty sure the patch I'm using is fine
Garbage text and broken graphics is one of the main indicators of a wrongly patched game. Open the patch's readme and see if you downloaded the right version of the game. The ROM needs the exact same filesize and checksum required. There's a gazillion variations of every ROM from different dumps out there.

Jesus, the stuff about this game sound fucked
Any other games that have shit like this?
Games nowdays beyond ocassional Yoko Taro or Suda feel so sterile and too safe when stuff like this was pumped out in the past

Ok what the fuck

I didn't see anything about using a specific rom in the readme file (outside of not using one that instantly made you level 99), although I did find info on the patch's romhacking.net page, although when I tried opening up a patched rom with the right specifics the emulator just said it was corrupted and it didn't work.
I've also tried downloading a prepatched rom and even that had the fucked text.

I think I might just be too retarded for this.

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>get the C ending on my first run where those two drunk faggots in a car run me over while I'm quietly laying down and contemplating an amazing adventure I just went on

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All I remember about that game is getting even more confused after each ending. Dropped it before watching them all.

I honestly can't think of any game as bonkers as this one.
With the whole drug, mushroom and alcohol deal, the "gather the holy dragons" plot, the pretty but also trippy and surreal graphics and environments and the life ruining events the entire thing feels like a giant "chasing the dragon" metaphor.

Anything even similar?
Someone earlier posted a child death in some game which is what I hold as a standard for "similar"

Seen it in local store, and sfter seeing it here few times I really should get it, despite knowing jack shit.
Some time travelling parellel universe plot, right?

I actually played this game like 20 years ago, when an english patch existed only for the menus. And still what I thought was happening is what was happening.

>why is the chick that looks like MC love interest having those long conversations with the dude that captured her?
>is that fucking wizard an old man or an old lady with long hair with a weird sprite that looks like a beard but its really his/her hair?

To whoever had the idea of putting cuck shit in this game, I hope he is burning in hell.

Square tried really hard to be the Sega to Enix's Nintendo back then, huh?

Death end re;quest if you don't count the true ending
even then the true ending still implies the normal ending is canon