Smash Bros Patch 3.0.0

What are your wishes for buffs and nerfs for the next Smash bros patch?

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>squirtle
>shulk
>mario
>cloud
>buffs

>Lucina
>Palu
>Marth
>OK

I mean, the first two aren't BUSTED, but they need to be slowed a tiny bit after some moves, I feel. Also, Marth could use a tiny buff. There's little reason to use him over Lucina

Robin needs big buffs, they are totally useless as they are right now.

Cloud should get nerfed even more.

Give Palutena viewable spats

*AHEM* buff k. rool and jigglypuff

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give metaknight a better uptilt hitbox and make upthrow kill earlier. maybe some range buffs.

i love metaknight and ive been waiting to play a version of him that isn't broken or ladder-meme incarnate, but he feels a bit too gutted

nerf ivy and buff squirtle + charizard

based chad

Palutena and Ivysaur aren't okay. Buffing Ice Climbers would be pure cancer, too.

Fix the FUCKING netcode.
Reduce input lag
Remove the current buffering system
Fix the ranking system
Rebalance the cast

Seriously, some characters are so shit that you'll NEVER see them used in any form of competitive play, in a game with 63 fucking characters. I don't understand why they continue to have top tiers that do every that mid-low tiers can do but better. Some just have better frame data for no reason

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they won't do that, rosterfags are the majority and they don't actually give a shit about playing the game

They wouldn't even have to try all that hard to fix her. She could use some minor adjustments that would easily add some viability despite her fundamental flaws.

Would be nice if they increased her initial dash speed, and gave her a better short hop. They should also adjust her sideB because it's use is a little limited in terms of combo potential and keepout.

If meta is going to be stuck with a dagger sword then he better have more hitstun on some of his moves, there's nothing worse than just randomly getting spiked in the middle of your combo

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They need to buff Ganon's down b so that it's not worthless against projectiles half the time.

>luigi
>buff
retard

This is just how I see it. If you're wondering why DK is at the bottom, it's because the z axis badly fucks him over when trying to do punch confirms. His arm completely curls around the opponent.

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I should also clarify certain shit about the "small nerfs" tier. In my opinion, I'd be fine with Lucina staying the same if Marth got buffed. Echo characters should be side grades, not better in almost every way.
I don't remember putting Young Link in, he's really not deserving of a nerf.
Ness is mostly fine, but his air dodge is a bit too good. That, and try getting out of PK fire at the ledge.
I think Inkling's ink should play a larger roll. In my opinion, their recovery shouldn't be as good when ink is low, and roller should at least use ink in the air.
Wolf just needs his back air nerfed.
Lightning loops are too good, but Pichu is fine otherwise.
Ivysaur needs to be more rounded out, she's too fucking good at absolutely everything. You have almost no reason to use Squirtle and Charizard if you're good enough with her.
Olimar speaks for himself.

>have the worst recovery in the game only just above mac and chrom
>loses every high tier matchup
>not in need of a buff

>character with incontestable recovery and OoS early kill options in big buff

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If they don't buff Kirby I'll shit on Nintendo HQ's porch

>forgetting his braindead combo throws

I want buffs for Captain Falcon, and Shiek. Also either nerf Lucina, or buff Marth. Really hoping for a meaningful Falcon buff.

throws that are tied to a shit tier grab that goes against his character playstyle

Just make every move have their Z axis be infinite.
In what fucking world should a 2D fighter ever have moves that are only able to hit the opponent on certain stages.
I shouldn’t be whiffing with DKs punch at point blank range or Pirahna Plant’s Uair when the opponent is next to you because I am playing on a 3D stage.
Why is there a Z-axis anyways?

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Buff Captain Falcon, don't care about anyone else

Very good listn only thing that jumps out at me is keep Wario as is: he's very reliant on his tools and only really oppressive in the hands of masterful players
Would also make an argument that Ice Climbers would be pretty nasty if they were a good character *and* had all of their crazy desync shenanigans that probably won't ever get fully patched out

the only busted thing about wario is his waft really, the only thing he needs changed is losing it after a stock or maybe only losing half the charge, because it has really no drawbacks for being as powerful as it is

Robin buffs.

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Buff Ridley's weight, that's all. That way he'll actually fuckin survive like other big bodies do instead of getting 0-D'ed by Young Link in the first 10 seconds of the match

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squirtle is useless besides unga bunga short hop aerial combos
shit specials, shit range, shit recovery, shit smash attacks

I can not figure out why they made him so light, Piranha Plant is heavier.

Probably because Sakurai&co were thinking of how skinny=light, instead of, y'know, thinking of how to balance the character properly.

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I want Ike to get a rework. Not a nerf or buff, he should stay as effective as he is right now. Just make him less reliant on nair so he's more interesting to play and watch.

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That still isn't how mass works though.

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Any changes are acceptible as long as they include lucina nerfs.

You think they care?
>Uhhh damn this dude skinny. Better make him lighter than a normal big body, the kiddies might get confused

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Who else is maining joker even if he's shit (he won't be).

>zelda
>kirby
>big buffs
put mac in that category instead of those two

Pocketing him unless his moveset turns out to be really uninspired.
it probably will be

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Have they mentioned ANYTHING about it, or Joker, since a month or so ago?

make the netcode not shit

buff characters i like
nerf characters i dont like

Based

Robin needs some buffs like and said
Make Falco's Dair good again
Make Shiek have at least one good kill option
Minor K. Rool Airspeed buff and less endlag on his aerials other than Nair
Minor nerf to Paisy's turnip damage
Minor nerf to Wolf's blaster damage
Unsure how to fix the rest.

>shit specials, shit range, shit recovery, shit smash attacks
if only there was some kind of inherent mechanic associated with the pokemon trainer in order to alleviate these downsides

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