Is there any vidya character who could realistically beat him?
Is there any vidya character who could realistically beat him?
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Kirby
Kaeru.
Fuck off, Boy.
>trunk
>vidya
Canonically Cell has killed Trunks in one of the timelines. That's how he got ahold of the time machine in the first place.
Canonically every single Dragon Ball Z character who has ever set foot on Earth has died
Why does his head look backwards
It'll always come down to yes they can be beaten and by Kirby, Asura, or Bayonetta.
Postin his theme
Dunno who could beat him at the time of Super.
I guess an SMT character or Asura?
Tarble never died
You know who
"Dragon Ball: Yo! Son Goku and His Friends Return!!" doesn't have a Z in the title
Beerus also doesn't count 'cause his story is pretty much retconed in Super so he's now a Super character
Satan is the only character from Z backwards that hasn't died if you don't count Dragon Ball Online in which he dies and is written by Toriyama himself
I know WHO, sure, but which Madara are we talking about, here?
Based.
Do I even have to say it?
Well from your picture it looks like you're talking about Edo Tensei Madara Uchiha, which is odd 'cause he's a joke compared to Juubi Jinchuuriki Gedou Rinne Tensei Uchiha Madara with the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan and Rinnegan doujutsus (with the rikodou abilities and being capable of both Amateratsu and Tsukuyomi genjutsu), equipped with his Gunbai, a perfect Susano'o, control of the juubi and Gedou Mazou, with Hashirama Senju's DNA implanted in him so he has mokuton kekkei genkai and can perform yin yang release ninjutsu while being an expert in kenjutsu and taijutsu.
off topic but all of the dbz art i've seen that's drawn like this is my favorite. idk what it is about it or if it's actually drawn by toriyama himself but it looks so good.
Nope, none of the art that has anime-like coloring is by Toriyama
This thread is making me want to play Legacy of Goku ll.
Trunks is the probably the coolest DB character
like mecha freezer and his daddy and some mooks show up and, goku's still in space somewhere, everyone else is shitting their pants then BOOM suddenly this slick motherfucker shows up with a sick jacket and a fucking sword, goes super sayian effortlessly rips freeiza's boipussy apart fucking slices king cool in half then blows up the fucking ship and the all the mooks up, then demands to speak to goku
I've never had a character introduction leave as much of a lasting impact on me as Trunk's did
He also had Dream Theater in his movie which was also the best DBZ movie.
yep the pic you posted is also exactly what i'm talking about. i wonder what the common thread is. they look perfect.
We're not talking about dying though, we're talking about being beaten/killed. Which Trunks was by Cell.
here's another
Freeza could explode planets effortlessly, and he beat freeza effortlessly. I don't think there's any video game character that can beat that.
Kinda funny how he becomes the ultimate ninja but is ultimately betrayed by the zetsu and absorbed into a literal god tier shinobi to be taken down
It took the biggest fish in the sea to take him down
Yamamuro before he turned to shit.
You got any based turles or garlic jr
Vegeta could destroy planets effortlessly too.
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Pure love for ears. Would pause this section of the game before Gohan headed out to his death. ;_;7
oh shit i'm gonna have to look into this, thanks!
I din't think there is a turles one with the same art mid to late 90s artstyle.
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>Chi-Chi is waiting for Goku and Gohan at the doorsteps of their home, only Gohan comes back
Heartbreaking now that I look back on it.
*blocks ur path*
I love how inconsistent Trunks' hair is, even as a child they can't stick to one super saiyan hair style
No problem.
It's sad to see how cruel the digital age was to his artstyle.
yeah something about that hand drawn shit makes a nigga wanna NUT
Asura?
You can play as stronger DBZ characters.
You can play as Goku, angry Gohan, or Perfect Cell in DBFZ. Not to mention Hit, Goku Black, Zamasu, and Jiren.
Besides that in some games there is god mode or you gain literal godhood.
Defend this right fucking now.
Takahashi did some fucking great work
Revival of F
God i love Goku SSJ2 so fucking much Jesus Christ
Context?
I've never seen super
Trunks pulls a spirit bomb out his ass and turns it into a sword.
Sounds like Trunk's refused to job
So who are the new big boie of DB?
Naotoshi Shida and Yusuke Takahashi?
Shintani too, but his designs arguably translate to animation the worst
His model sheets are some good shit though
He failed in the end.
The guy he tried to kill went full giygas and turned into pure unadulterated /pol/lution.
They had to nuke his timeline from existance to take that guy out.
Now he lives as another Trunks's double from another timeline similiar to his.
Whoever animated these Gogeta sequences
I'm kinda tired of Shida to be perfectly honest, his animation is too worried about being high FPS that everything lacks weight
I should say, "translate the worst" as in it's real easy for some of the detail such as slight muscle definition to get lost, especially when you're really putting in work with the animation, but his style isn't bad
To be fair that wasn't his fault
This guy almost did
A fairly interesting question with interesting answers. But first we must clarify if there is actually any character in vidya that cna beat Uzumaki Naruto?
I’m not talking 12 year old Uzumaki Naruto, Hell I’m not talking Sennin mode Uzumaki Naruto, I’m talking Uzumaki Naruto after using the tajuu kage bunshin no jutsu, yin-yang max tail release Kyubbi while activated in Rikudo Sennin mode with a futon choodama rasenshuriken. Keep in mind he can combine his futon choodama rasenshuriken with Uchiha Sasuke's enton kagutsuchi to create shakuton korin shippu shikkoku no ya zeroshiki, But first Uchiha Sasuke must activate his kekkei genkai Eternal Mangekyo Sharingan in order to possess Amaterasu so he use the enton release.
It looked pretty good in broly.
It had that late DB early Z toriyama going on.
I wonder if he'd have lost otherwise. If wish it could have ended with Madara instead of literal aliens from the moon
This image is so fucking comfy
You have me curious. What does the latest Goku drawn by Toriyama himself look like?
snake
By Super, Trunks is strong enough to pull any shit he wants to win.
Yeah, with Super looking like most of these for its enitre run, Shintani's style is refreshing
The real answer is any strong character with true teleportation. Teleporting completely messes up DB characters.
I like SS1 not being golden blond.
Peak toriyama art is just comfy in general.
The lead designer for the anime for the last 2 decade was this dude called yamamuro.
He draws goku in a certain style and all the other animators gave to adhere to that style.
He was great in the 90s as you can see in most of the images posted here, but the digital age wasn't kind to him.
For the new broly they let some relatively new dude take a shot at being the new lead designer which lead what you see there.
It's funny 'cause 1L is more comparable to 2R and 1R to 2L
Piccolo's cape is so damn cool, shame he always takes it off.
He only took the cape off once and never wore it again the little shit
Where do you get this art? I love the old DBZ style but googling isn't the best option when it comes to finding stuff like this. There's one classic image of SS Goku kneeling with his shirt torn off that I could never find in high resolution.
man I miss Z, super is kino and alright but i still miss THIS. you know?
I'm sorry but I have to.
Kai ost > Original ost >= Faulconer ost >>>>>>>>>>> Kai 2014/Super ost
Googling "gohan ssj2 cape" lol
I'll gladly take a non water mark verison of this one though
An alternative
why does the old dbz art have so much SOUL
>we only got a halfway decent SoL driving episode instead of a nascar miniarc
Now I wish they had taken inspiration from these cover pages for all the filler episodes.
Here you go.
I used my expert googlefu skills.
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Knock yourself out
Wonder if he meant that one or this, 'cause i can't find in this one with good quality for the life of me
I'd say one of the biggest parts is the color palette
>good proportions
>hand drawn and colored instead of digital
>attention put to linework
>shading that makes sense instead of looking like plastic figures
>flowing hair
The list goes on.
What about Baba?
Meant the second one but both are great, thanks a lot. Damn, SS was so stylish back on Namek.
is this one also yamamuro?
It's not done by Tori himself but it's made by DBZ production staff. It looks good because it's done the old fashioned way with traditional inks and paints. And art quality was just generally higher back then. Digital made shit easier to make and allowed less-skilled people to make it in. It also just flat out kills a ton of soul in the art.
Fuck she DID set foot on Earth instead of just floating
Then never mind me i suck cocks
Everything came together so well there, but they almost immediately forgot how to do it well in the android arc.
soulful and kino as fuck
glad the thread devolved into posting these
It's okay user, that was filler.
How about the time she went to kame house to show the saiyans fight to Bulma & co? Did that happen in the manga? If not then i can't remember of any other time she's out of the floating ball
You just had to go and curse this thread
SSJ looked a lot better with bleach blonde hair.
Here ya go
I wish they'd remake Legacy 2 and Buu's Fury, but don't change anything. Just bring it into a modern 3D. They could even go and make Legacy 1 not garbage.
>bang
It never ceases to amaze me how much SSG got saved, i hated absolutely everything about it on a conceptual level back in the day, but then when it got re-introduced in the ToP looking so good i couldn't help but get completely charmed
Yuya Takahashi is the only one who can bring 90s kino back on the menu.
i think you nailed it, that color palette is god tier. it's so 90s and so japanese
fucking super isn't canon if satan dies
I still dont know the difference between God form and Blue form.
Wtf? Soul/soulless: the post. Where the fuck is that image on the right from?
Think of SSG as a base form but with god powers, Blue is a super saiyan of that
amazing, just absolutely fucking amazing
He was shot on killed. You stupid
>obvious shill is obvious
SSG still looks fucking retarded
Toriyama limped to the barn with that form becuase he hates the very idea of a super saiyajin god and the ritual.
He retconned it out and made it so that ssj1 is the only thing that goku would need in the BoG movie.
But Toei wants money so they brought in that deeply retarded toriko tie in hair color ssjb thing and then ssg as a seperate form then they just started making up new stupid goddamned super saiyajin forms that are even dumber then the last since then.
NuBroly looks so good, goddamn. Toriyama can still draw up and 10/10 character
>most kino outfit
>used for 1 episode
>looks at the pic in the middle
>*sips*
>Yep smug vegeta just ain't the same anymore
Blue is overclocked more performance, less stamina. Goku putting KKfist on top of blue is where it stops making sense for me.
Some retard thought it was a good idea to remake the old movie covers for the re-releases
God form is just the base form with god ki and blue is going suoer saiyan with god ki.
Why SS God wasn't just called Saiyan God or God Saiyan and Blue was called Super saiyan god is beyond me.
I wish blue was never introduced. God was supposed to be this temporary, ritual induced state. They could have had entire arcs around trying to attain that power, but instead we got Goku and Vegeta becoming housemaids.
I'd have to check so I'm not sure. I don't think it added anything though so it probably was filler.
Is this official or some deviant art shit? Either way, its deviant art tier.
Shit, when you put it that way, trunks is pretty fucking based
Time to dump some big images
blowing my mind how kino this is. this is kinoer than kino. a new term needs to be coined for how kino this is.
That's where the nightmare comes in, they're official
Shitani's style obviously looks a lot better, but there's something about the shading/depth that just seems off.
It's the sexiest form next to SSJ2. Much better than Blue. I still don't get why they had to even make it?
And if they were dead set on giving Goku a new form, why do it in the next movie when they're still in talks for getting Super off the ground.
I have to confess my sins Yea Forums.
I unironically like SS Rosé.
Is Dragon Ball Legends a good time killer? I fucking hat getcha, but it looks like a decent fighter for a mobile game
holy fuck, these really do capture that aesthetic. based yuya
This. Even if Trunks were to somehow beat him the first go round the fucker would never stay down.
*Takahashi
They're both made by Yamamuro, it's just that for some reason he completely forgot how to draw when he got old.
Who looked at these and thought, "yeah, that's better"? Da fuq is this?
It's a cool looking form, why shouldn't you like it?
Fucking file size limit makes me have to resize these
The shading might be a bit off cause of the colors used
hnnnnnggggggg the soul man, the soooouuuulllllllll
whenever animators have to draw anything that is not goku in an orange gi standing motionless they start crying and shit their pants. It's how we got Jiren.
SSJ2 looks like SSJ1 but with lightning.
Not even toriyama knew the difference between it and ssj1.
It's an irrelevant form that is only cool when teen Gohan uses it.
SSG is faggot trash
SSJ2 is nothing
And SSJB was pulled out of their ass as a way to
1.Make a new form for "hype"
2.Tie it into the dying and dead moneysink called Toriko
3.Toy sales.
That's it.
There was no talk of a new anime.
They only decided to go through with it after they saw how much money that horribly written deeply fucking stupid clusterfuck of trouble ahead called RoF was shat out.
The image on the left is clearly pen to paper hand drawn. Does he use a fucking iPad to draw now?
PVP is so heavily abused at higher levels that it's not even worth getting that much into unless you really want the rewards. Other than that, the gameplay is simple and the story is somewhat interesting, so it's not terrible. I'd recommend Dokkan if you're more into strategy though.
But if the whole point of god form is more power for less energy consumption then why do they still use their super saiyan forms before going god? They did this in the tournament of power and broly movie.
I see, I'd definitely like to see his work hand drawn some time in the non-Broly style to see if it holds up to the old standard.
Well I like the way the bangs fall in SSJ2. I won't sit here and say it's the most impressive, distinctive, or useful.
It's pretty shit to be honest since it was kinda just a asspull for a single fight.
Because Black and his entire concept is literally some deviant art shit.
10 years before super aired you could find deviantart shit of an evil goku with pink ss.
It should in no way work, but that smug and that /fa/ as fuck turtle neck gi make it work for me.
I've tried Dokkan, but can you help a brother out? It seems like it's almost entirely luck based, in that what ever orbs are in front of you dictate your success. Am I missing something? I wanted to like Dokkan
Kirby can't swallow energy projectiles
>SSJ2 looks like SSJ1 but with lightning.
Whatever makes you sleep at night
>It's the sexiest form next to SSJ2.
>when SS4 exists
>J
SSJ3 would be alright if Toriyama didn't forget to draw the eyebrows.
I deleted it because its primarily a real time pvp game. The pve content is very repetitive and simple. It was fun for a while but online is full of cheaters, exploiters and laggers.
My sibling of african american ancestry
looks way more kino and intense without eyebrows
To be fair, even Super starts off drawing on pencil and paper first
It's just that all the talent, especially the actual linework itself, has degraded over the years
I wouldn't say dokkan is strategic anymore. Nowadays with the category leads and dupe system, you can just ignore things like type disadvantage and super attacks because a lot of damage can just be tanked/absorbed by into your giga hp stat and you can still deal some decent damage regardless of landing a crit with most damage dealing units.
I'd say that o.g rosé and vb or the neo-god leads was where it began to drop in difficulty.
>tfw GT is fanfic tier
>though it has so much more soul than Super
Spirit Bomb Sword is the fucking dopest shit, him putting the entire hopes and dreams of his dying planet into one final attack would have been the most kino ending to the Zamasu arc possible so of course it didn't end up working in the end.
The orbs fall in a specific way every time, but there are some variables like the placement of the ones you pick up and their color. You just have to play more to understand the patterns. You can also use a lead with ki support or a support unit to boost your ki up as well so you don't have to rely on orbs as much.
The thread is seriously missing the SSJ3 vs Buu webm with the freeze frames.
I like the young Leo cut Trunks most consistently had, but a lot of people like him with longer hair. Admittedly ponytail blue jean jacket Trunks is his best look
How is Trunks not a Mary Sue then?
All the strategy now is at endgame with sbr and battlefield, the only problem is that it's only in endgame now.
I kind of wish I'd played before the +3000 leads all released to see what it was like before though.
Here's a bit of an example - change the colors a bit and edit some shadow placement and it looks like Yamamuro's old art styoe
This.
This, though certainly something is lost when the drawing is converted to digital it still doesn't have a say on the animators talent, it's just that Super's production value was troubled to say the least and it's highs are few
Thanks, I may download it and give it another try. I always had a soft spot for Budokai 2, and I like how Dokkan has a similar board game thing going on.
why is GT so bashed and beaten? no retarded answers please.
There is absolutely no diffference between the forms. Not one.
Just the hair color and aura.
Both of them ass ugly and created to shill toys to idiots.
It's aesthetic as fuck, nothing wrong with liking it
the animation is pretty awful in most instances, the villains are for the most part terrible, and the characters are wholly unlikable
Oh God my heart
Is Shida the guy that animated some of the scenes of Goku's fights with Jiren? There were scenes with a distinct frenzied and rushed feel that I seriously couldn't stand. At one point, Jiren land on a rock and powered up all in one frame. It's so rushed-feeling, like he's in a hurry to get from pose to pose as fast as possible. And everything moves to the same "rhythm".
too bad he can't write one
Black had style out the ass, there's nothing wrong with liking Rose.
Takahashi is so fucking kino
He loses way more fights than he wins and is a dumbass, though he knows he's a dumbass.
A lot of Trunks' appeal is that he's a no-nonsense guy with a sword. Unlike literally every other Saiyan who wants their enemies to get stronger he goes straight for the kill, he's the most ruthless of the bunch
This plus the fact that he leaves right after his arc means that he never outstays his welcome, so people remember his high points fondly, because the majority of his stay was all high points
The game isn't amazing by any standard, but it's a fun waste of time if you like db. Just make sure you start during a celebration so you have a better chance of pulling good cards and can reroll if necessary.
>I always had a soft spot for Budokai 2
I fucking loved it too being my first db game, especially with the jazz covers.
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Based. SSJ4 having a great design is the only thing that you can take from GT and say you liked without me thinking you're a spic of questionable intelligence
In the last fight he only animated one segment, when Goku Blanco gets pissed at him for firing at his friends up until Goku has him beaten on the ground
It's probably Shida's best work in Super IMO, liked it more than his Gogeta vs Broly sequence
Gohan going from SSJ1 to using a rage boost to create an entirely new form of super saiyajin isn't an asspull.
Vegeta getting ssj1 was an asspull.
If you remove the lighting it will just look like someone fucked up the SSJ1 form.
Toriyama himself doesn't remember SSj1 and when someone asked him to do ssj2 he drew ssj3. Because he actually likes SSJ3.
I think it's time you faggots leave the fandom.
You have shit taste and no one else likes SSJ2 outside of when Gohan had it.
Goku spontaneously becoming a flamming faggot complete with pink ssj hair does not work. Not on any level.
*Style, fuck
I'd say Trunks isn't a Mary Sue because for as cool as he is, he actually spends most of his time in Z actually being pretty ineffectual in combat, usually getting his ass handed to him by the androids in his timeline, and once by the androids in the present timeline and of course Cell also killed him across two timelines as well
Basically he really doesn't cause the plot to revolve around him or bend over backwards to demonstrate how great he is all the time
He literally shows up because he got his ass kicked so fucking hard that he had to time travel to ask daddy and goku for help.
I asked the same thing, but then I watched it again recently and I think it deserves the hate.
1. It was aimed at a younger audience and has a "kiddy" vibe to it
2. The first 20 episodes are a total and complete fucking slog
3. Goku, who beat Majin fucking Buu gets his ass handed to him too much to make sense
4. Pan is too edgy
5. It's a glib facsimile of OG Dragon Ball
The fuck happened to final form cooler. Why is his head so flat in the souless version
That is by far the best new art I've seen from the franchise in years. I'm surprised how much of a difference those simple edits made.
Now if we could just get those water color backgrounds back.
What a beautiful mistake
yes he can
This thread provides so many perfect examples of soul v soulless. Just refer every future Yea Forums thread on the subject to this thread. Done.
My nigger
What about the ending?
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>Turles close up gone
This is by far the worst offense in any of these redraws. Turles does not deserve to look so soulless on this poster
I love that they used Makafushigi Adventure in the score
Okay I'll give you GT's ending was a good resolution to GT
what the actual fuck happened to the right.
Takahashi. No contest. That guy understands shading and mimicking cel animation the most. He definitely did his homework. Even the actual drawing style is on point. It gets the proportions and intensity just right.
I fucking love some of the visual effects you find in Shigeyasu Yamamori's movies, the second Saint Seiya OVA had some great visuals going on but for some reason none of the cool shots are findable on google, gotta download that bluray again
>there's nothing wrong with liking Rose.
As long as you're only referring to the design.
Vegeta lookin breddy thicc
There is literally NO excuses for this
NO excuses
The design shouldn't work, but the pink aura over the baggy black gi, and that level of smug coming from Goku pulls it off
>Yamamori
wtf i mean Yamauchi
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man this is a great thread
he's a big guy
pls no more
who never jobs
The End.
Terrible. Just terrible.
I don't know who got more ruined by nu-DB designs, Trunks or Adult Gohan
At least Gohan got the opportunity to be saved for a split second by Takahashi, poor Trunks never had the chance
>if you only knew how bad things really are
This design was so good.
Yes, he can and not only that, he can consume realities on it's entirety
>these are the same person
Meanwhile in another timeline...
But what about uubi Jinchuuriki Gedou Rinne Tensei Uchiha Madara with the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan and Rinnegan doujutsus (with the rikodou abilities and being capable of both Amateratsu and Tsukuyomi genjutsu), equipped with his Gunbai, a perfect Susano'o, control of the juubi and Gedou Mazou, with Hashirama Senju's DNA implanted in him so he has mokuton kekkei genkai and can perform yin yang release ninjutsu while being an expert in kenjutsu and taijutsu after he's cast the Infinite Tsukuyomi and has absorbed chakra from the roots of the shinju?
Nu Trunks doesn't exist to me. How the FUCK can you go from the Trunks from the Cell Saga and Bojack movie (not canon, I know) to that shit?
>killed him 2 forms weaker than this
I akso like the light particle effect.
It gives off some dope ass cosmic space aura effect.
So is this one of those Soul vs Soulless situations
That is without a doubt the single dumbest goddamned moment in that entire fucking arc.
And that's saying something.
This was the last time we saw Trunks
What an absolute chad
Why did they turn Bardock into a pussy little buttboy? I loved Broly, but fuck everyone involved for fucking up Bardock's story
I had always liked the look of SS4, and put into context my original dislike of the change in Goku's gi colors from Orange to blue and dijon mustard yellow. Honestly, brown fur + orange pants SS4 would look bad, but the bright red fur and the mustard yellow pants looks pretty good.
Also while most of the fights were bad, the openings and endings had so much soul. While it partially seems like the ending was rushed, I do appreciate that Goku returned to his roots and visited the Kame house and Krillin, and such. It's a bit of punch in the feels that everyone continued to wait for Goku to come back from his journey with Shenron, only to never return (since he presumably passed away).
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The OP sort of betrays the actual anime. It looks like a grand space adventure. Tons of great art direction with those beautiful world designs.
4th ending is also full of feels of where Dragonball's come and where it's at over the years.
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People love to dog GT, but it's got so much more soul and 90's charm, even if it's not that great, I still feel it's better than Super.
Was it Toriyama or the lady who made Episode of Bardock that birthed the idea for Minus?
Bardock scenes got cut for time purposes. Toriyama said he did 3 hours worth of script. You can clearly see his armor broken and him injured while he's trying to stop Frieza's attack but we've no clue how that happened
Man, fuck Kai. I remember watching that episode on Toonami back in the 90's. Then it gets massacred and the fanbase tells me I'm objectively wrong for not preferring this abortion
It's not even the design. It's just that Yamamuro should have fucked off the DB franchise after the buu arc.
I still can't understand how can you lost so much drawing skills in merely a decade.
More Cooler for culture
Minus is all Toriyama.
He had nothing to do with the original Bardock OVA as far as I know.
He designed the characters, as he did for most if not all of the movies, but that's it
>I've never had a character introduction leave as much of a lasting impact on me as Trunk's did
Have you never read HxH or something?
Please, sir. I can't take all of this soul.
It doesn't matter what happened in those scenes. They ruined his characterization. Also, his premonition was turned into an intuition.
Who are you referring to?
god this is just terrible. why, just why??
I love it when characters fade into the background like Vegeta there
what are the best DBZ movies besides Cooler's Revenge?
>HxH or something?
No one really likes HxH user.
People just praise it because they want to seem more hip and with it then they really are.
Forgot pic
His power? Infinite.
Your chances? Zero.
The Galick Jr. one, Broly 1, Bojack and Janemba
Broly 2 is kind of a guilty pleasure of mine
Excuse me, that's my original character. Please stop posting it without my permission. Thnx k bye
yeah the retraced scenes were hot garbage, but everything else about kai was better than Z in my opinion
>"Well consider me the last"
>"THE NIGHTMARE IS OVER CELL, DIE"
Who taught this boy how to chad?
Fusion Reborn is a visual spectacle
Dead Zone and World's Strongest are also pretty good at keeping that late DB feel, especially with the Goku and Piccolo's dynamic
World's Strongest and Wrath of the Dragon are also pretty neat for having a somewhat different plot besides the usual "strong guy shows up, kick his ass" stuff
And of course Battle of Gods and Dragon Ball Super: Broly are top-tier, though your mileage may vary on some parts of the Broly storyline
Top Tier
Wheelo
Slug
Cooler
Bojack
Fusion Reborn
Wrath of the Dragon
Meh Tier
Garlic Jr.
Turles
Broly
Broly 2
Shit Tier
Return of Cooler
Android 13
Bio-Broly
Who could have it been?
WHO?
Future Gohan.
Attack of the Dragon is a classic too.
Super 13 should get a honorable mention just for final act.
Personal favorite of the old ones is Tree of might, then fusion reborn, Cooler's revenge and Broly 1would probably be next tier. NuBroly has become my favorite overall though, Shintani and Takahashi are geniuses
The script and voice acting are better by and large, but it's too much of a compromise for me to put up with the butchered score, retraced scenes, and Gohan's fucking voice. I also think Chris Ayers is way overrated as Frieza.
Last we saw him he was crying to Goku and Vegeta for help cause he was getting bullied by a gay kai.
>speedblitz you
*heh, nothing personnel*
>Watches tfs
>Friezas voice sounds gay
>Probs a joke on how camp he is
>Watches Kai
>It's based on reality
>They actually thought stewie griffin would make for a great villain voice
My fucking mug when.
I've never wanted a cartoon cock up my boy pussy more than mirai trunks
I got a soft spot for Wrath of The Dragon 'cause i fucking love Tapion, but i think that movie's pacing has some serious problems
Broly 1 also has some pacing problems, but every short coming in that movie is forgiven by the final clash, jesus fuck that was kino in a bottle
>Stewie Griffin
Holy fuck, are you me? Let's be honest, the original voice actor wasn't exactly stellar, but I thought she was way better over all. I don't give a fuck if its "more accurate".
man look at those lines,
it like if comic books pictures were jumping out the page. When hand drawn gets real HQ it starts to feel like that,and that's why I miss it.
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MistareFusion is pretty kino. He explains a lot of Minus coming from the perspective of a japanese viewer, such as release timelines of where the films landed on TV compared to the anime at the time, and such.
TFS did it first.
Besides I think it works.
Nip Freeza also speaks in a very polite manner.
So him having a posh accents works in my opinion.
You guys bought heroes right?
Never mind that, has God forms shown any feat that can finally make Goku beat Supes yet?
>not just watching sub
the fuck is wrong with you
He isn't that strong, some Digimon tier or higher characters could win.
Course I did user, where else was I gonna kick the shit out of Vegeta with SSJ3 Raditz and Nappa
Thats it buckaroo ride em cowboy!
It looks boring as hell
i was disappointed as fuck when i found out the gamestop near me didn't have it in stock. i'll get around to ordering it later though.
Vergil would body him.
At the very least, Ayres has one hell of a laugh
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BR Freeza is best Freeza
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You're missing out.
No. That silly universe destroying shit doesnt count and was never brought up again. God ki was such a massive waste.
Saiyaman outfit gohan is peak Gohan design only second to his cellgames look
Why didn't they ask him to go to the tournament of power. He's literally stronger than everyone that's not Goku, Vegeta and Frieza.
Dragon ball is not a card battler
No, i pirated it
I certainly didn't expected to have so much fun though, so if i do end up getting this one job i'm auditing for i might buy it, though the price in my country is kinda absurd
graphics remind me of shin budokai and i loved shin budokai
Those Budokai 3 models make me all kinds of happy
Wait for it die down, there's a fuck ton of dlc on the way.
What's stupid about it? Trunks did nothing but train every day and he's as strong as one of Goku's old forms.
Fuck, DB Color is fantastic
time fuckery
He went back to his own timeline or some shit, and Gohan is still stronger
TALL
You don't have a good grasp of how fun card battlers can be
Time/space fuckery, shit steps right into Goku xeno territory.
Why didn't they just bring cell and lop him into the time chamber with one of the saiyans? The tournament would have been over in a flash.
Same reason buu was not in
>The script and voice acting are better by and large
No, it's far worse compared to the later parts of the Android/Cell arc and Buu when they figured out what they were doing.
>the butchered score
What did he mean by this?
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This guy gets it. Dragon Ball has always been, at it's very core, a card battler
(Laughs)
It's literally impossible to reach Trunks' future with a newly made time machine, Trunks future became like another dimension because of the different events, if they built a machine to go to the future they'd just end up in their own future with everyone alive and well
>Same reason buu was not in
Trunks didn't fall asleep
Yeah it's great.
now here's the fun stuff
The transformation with the tiles lifting in the air is one of my favorites.
That's bullshit and you know it
Cell's soul has probably been purified. The only thing keeping Frieza from being purified and his soul sent back out there to become frieza's version of Uub is because he was seething so much that his soul was too angry to go away. So Yemna just chucks him onto his own level of hell and leaves him there out of his hair.
I miss when DB had good choreography.
Man into the Deadzones choreography was stellar. Still holds up to this day
I fucking love those slower paced fights
Well that's what happened, Buu fell asleep. Trunks wasn't going to participate but then fell asleep right beforehand, I don't know what you're trying to say
Beerus would flip his shit.
Stop being obtuse. You know full well what I mean about the butchered score. First of all, Yamamoto was b tier compared to Kikuchi. Then when Yamamoto got caught being a blatant plagiarist, they re implemented Kikuchi's score with piss poor editing. Don't get me started on the Final Chapters' garbage score. Kai definitely has something to offer, but its overall presentation is a Frankenstein monstrosity.
I just want to say it warms my heart that Yea Forums can have such a comfy Dragon Ball thread and we even used Soul vs Soulless properly. All you guys are great
wait I posted the worse one
Beerus wouldn't give a shit if it helps him not get erased from existence
What did you think of the DBS broly movie Yea Forums?
You did watch it right?
No amount of training will make Trunks SSJ2 be stronger then Goku's SSJ3 without Trunks base form becoming ridiculously stronger then Goku's base form.
That's not how SSJ forms works. You just can train then all of a sudden SSJ2 will be a stronger form then SSJ3.
If that were the case then SSJ1 would be the only form that goku would ever need.
It would be the only form any of them would ever need.
This comic changed forms from a necessary thing that is a milestone of power and personal progression to a stylistic choice.
Shit, super forms in db are now less meaningful then super forms in sailor moon.
Shit nigga.
Card captor sakura's outfits are meaningful then every super form in goku's rainbow pride hair color event
Where is this shit from?
No problem friendo
Toriyama didn't want to draw him, was a pain in the ass.
Shit you not.
Right before that page Trunks says he wasn't aware about SSJ3 being a thing but was never satisfied with the power SSJ2 offered to begin with, what he's doing there is in one way or another another transformation, may be similar to the different Grades that SSJ1 had going on or something else, i dunno, point is it's not a regular SSJ2
No, but if Trunks base form was outrageously powerful, his second form would be stronger than Goku’s third form.
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I honestly wasn't considering the re-added Kikuchi score since that's the original and the 2014/Super score never crossed my mind.
That being said, Kikuchi's score is only better in fight scenes with the one exception being the piano playing when Namek is about to explode.
Broly best boy, he pounds his green gf every night.
If Broly gets proper training his power would be MAXIMUM and not even Gogeta could do jack shit about it.
The last decent fight in DB before Goku SSJ3 vs Kid Buu.
>That fucking spinning shot
There were lots of alternate options, so I doubt he'd take the risk of letting present Zen-oh know of the future timeline.
Yeah, but its not
I'll chalk up Yamamoto/Kikuchi up to different preference, but what Kai did to Kikuchi'a score was unforgivable. It's actually hard to find Kai with Yamamoto's score in tact these days.
It's been nice having a thread that doesn't have crossboarders from Yea Forums arguing thoughtlessly and spamming shitty memes.
Based soul poster
I prefer this change where personal strength is more the metric instead of which powerup a character has unlocked.
Zeno is borderline retarded though, and one of them is from Trunks' erased/fucked timeline in the first place isn't he?
K I N O
say what you want about the entire buu saga but the last fight with kid buu was kino as fuck
It's just super saiyajin 2.
Trunks doesn't know how to hack his ssj forms.
He knows "ultra" and that's it.
His base form is not stronger then Goku or Vegeta's base form.
His SSJ2 becoming stronger then SSJ3 was them throwing out all established canon for a stylistic choice.
That's it.
Worst part is that it didn't actually mean anything. It added nothing to the story.
Liked it a lot, though there are some issues that always makes me wish to skip some parts, mainly the CGi bits and everything with the green chick and orange dude after she breaks the controller, almost every single piece of dialogue they have after the controller scene is talking about how pure muh-Broly is and that his father is a shitshow, like.. I get it lady you already said it like 4 times you can stop now
Also, while i liked Broly i still think the old one is better for now, he's more sympathetic for sure but the price for it was all the menacing presence he had going on and i'm not sure that was a fair price, if they handle Broly well in the future then the change can be justified, but if he joins the group of useless sideline characters while Goku and Vegeta runs the show then it really won't have paid off
>Zeno is borderline retarded though
The real problem is the grand priest who habitually orbits him.
>and one of them is from Trunks' erased/fucked timeline in the first place isn't he?
You just said he's retarded.
I don't understand the hate for the Buu saga. It harkened back to everything that made OG Dragon Ball great, while retaining some of the heavier Z elements. I feel like people who hate on Buu are wanting something that takes itself straight faced serious and don't really understand the series.
>It's just super saiyajin 2.
I'll trust the manga more than i trust you
soundtrack goes hard
>Legendary high class warrior, please hear my call! In the name of every cuck that came before, I now beseech thee! Awaken, mighty Bejita-sama, and rid my wife's lips virginity.
Why was this movie such shit? If they wanted to put out an abridged Dragon Ball, it should have climaxed at the 21st Budokai. Not cut Krillen and skip to the Red Ribbon arc. That said, what incredible animation.
Super forms are not costumes you can put on and get arbitrarily more powerful because reasons
That's bullshit and breaks any ability to believe anything about the story.
Each super form has a set limit of power.
Trunks does not get to say that his ssj2 is as strong as an ssj3 because trunks looks cooler with ssj2. That's gay bullshit.
If they want trunks to be as strong as a ssj3 then he goes fucking ssj3.
It's good enough for present trunks, it's good enough for the better liked and now more marketable timebreaker trunks, it's fucking good enough for him.
Turles is basically a cooler Goku.
How do we know? We can’t compare the two? Maybe Trunks been doing so much fighting that his base form is outrageously powerful now.
>It's actually hard to find Kai with Yamamoto's score in tact these days.
I'm pretty sure that this has the original Yamamoto score. kissanime.ru
He just powers up and randomly becomes stronger becaue reasons.
That's fucking it.
It's motherfucking bullshit and breaks canon for no actual in story reason other then as a pissing contest and to piss on ssj3.
Everyone in toei and shushu hates ssj3. It makes no goddamned sense to me.
Never did.
It's fucking wierd.
Almost everything from the moment Evil Buu absorbed Fat Buu to the moment he regresses to Kid Buu was utter garbage.
>Trunks been doing so much fighting that his base form is outrageously powerful now.
No one remarks about his base strength at any point in either the manga or anime.
He just has a super duper strong SSJ2 form for no reason.
no but i'm going to watch it with my wife tonight. this thread is so great right now btw
Whoever made the image on the right will not get into heaven
Since you said it's the dumbest thing about that arc does it mean this form is more okay with you?
Giorno with GER
Is that top image from habbo hotel?
No one should because its just Toei fanfiction retardation.
I was shocked to find that almost all of the shit that made me think Super was fucking retarded was exclusive to the anime. Its really fucking weird having the anime and manga come out simultaneously while also being almost entirely different aside from the framework of the plot
>Saiyaman outfit gohan is peak Gohan desi-
What's wrong with him just training SS2 to be stronger? Goku and Gohan trained SS in the time chamber so it shows that form training is in the realm of possiblity.
Sorry, I meant dubbed. I actually have it subbed with Yamamoto. The real draw for Kai is the better script and voice acting in English. The Japanese voice acting is in all ways a step down compared to Z
"in that case, let me introduce you to a world you never even knew existed"
kino
And a few more pieces of artwork cause why not
I fucking love the track that plays for his transformation, who the fuck is working on Super and what dumpster did they fish him out of?
>I AM SON GOKU, THE SUPER SAIYAN
God what a good track
They were made by the same man :)
I remember seeing this episode the day it came out with a friend high as fuck. Was kino as hell and anyone who hates on it are faggots.
>Son Goku
>Son
Man, that line did not work in the English dub. They never mention a family line at all, so it seemed so out of place. Not to mention the delivery of that particular line was pretty bad.
-gn
I stand by what I said.
>The Japanese voice acting is in all ways a step down compared to Z
How come? I know Nozawa sounds more grating now, but I never noticed a difference with anyone else.
It was fine, but he's still much less powerful compared to the other three adult saiyans.
>What's wrong with him just training SS2 to be stronger? Goku and Gohan trained SS in the time chamber so it shows that form training is in the realm of possiblity.
Then Goku and Gohan would have been as strong as SSJ2 while in PSSJ1.
But they weren't.
And that's not how SSJ forms work.
>Someone drew this
The line made no sense because the dub team was literally told to make him like Superman, altruistic and focused entirely on being an arbiter of good and justice, which is of course completely, 100% out of character and made no goddamned sense.
This. He just has super saiyan 2 grade 2 or something like that.
Dragon Ball is an anime of peace
But, it's why Goku is popular in the west and why there are so many Goku vs Superman fights and he's seen as Japanese Superman.
Problem is...that you're right.
Goku has the hilariously out of place voice of a shrill middle aged..sorry, 90 year old woman and is a bit of an ass.
In DBS and DBGT he's a scenery chewing cocksucker that no one likes in the fandom.
there will never be another anime with better art than dbz. i'll fite anybody who disagrees
That's not so much the case with Kai though. They distanced Goku from that whole Superman characterization in the Kai localization
Half are stronger than pure
I want to like some of the Faulconer tracks in this fight out of nostalgia and the atmosphere they had, but every other score was much better.
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One armed future gohan is the most kino thing in all existence
>This. He just has super saiyan 2 grade 2 or something like that.
No grade will give him a power boost like that.
That's bullshit.
Muh dick
Only in the case of Gohan.
Who is a fucking mutant.
Those crazy Toriyama drawings reminds me a lot of Metal Slug for some reason
You're talking about the original dub, the Son Goku line is from Kai which gets rid of the superhero characterization. Also I liked the delivery, I have no nostalgia for the english dub and I like Schemmel.
Never been a fan of Faulconer, some of the tracks are good (like Vegeta's theme) but don't fit in my opinion, mostly because I watched DBZ with the original score first. That said, the SSJ3 transformation scene is better in english and the Faulconer music actually fits it really well.
>watching RoF with the spanish dub for the first time
>mfw Frieza sounds like a very polite gay stereotype
>mfw the voice actor was talented enough to pull this and Golden Frieza changing his tone of voice to a mode dominant one without changing his mannerism too much
Honestly the mexican dub is the best
He might as well be at that point. As a kid he's not much like Superman but by Namek there are quite a few similarities
This thread has been a daily dose of soul
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>Trunks couldnt save that fucked up future which was probably the original one
>has to live in a future with another Trunks
>he had to see everyone die, even his mom by the hands of a childhood friend(kinda)
Torankusu's life is hard. Cant wait for the the Future Goat to fuck his world too
Is his jacket orange or yellow? It's always inconsistent.
Send Agent 47 after his ass. All he needs is either...
>Emetic rat poison and a nearby bathroom to drown him in
>Legit instakill poison
>Piano Wire
>Pretty much any other opportunity/tool
I would add the silenced pistol but according to the lore, most saiyans are immune to bullets.
>both versions
Based.
How bad is it that I can sing the opening part for both by heart?
Goat is a arc for fat buu who was not allowed in galatic budokai
Use rock
DOKKAN DOKKAN TSUITERU
>No grade will give him a power boost like that.
But Super Saiyan Grade 2 is stronger than Super Saiyan but stronger.
You just hate the idea of 2 being as strong as 3.
I remember me and my cousin having all these DBZ posters plastered all over our walls, specifically the ones with Cell saga Gohan and Gotenks. Those were simpler times...
Post more Chadtzu
the new art is... passable, but holy fuck that composition deteriorated bad. That would be easier to fix with digital, but what the hell?
Gotcha right here
I first watched Z through tapes of the end of Namek, so it means a lot to me. I can't ever decide if it's better than the sub because of that and the occasional high quality track.
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>I'M A GENIUS
>OH NO
DOKKAN DOKKAN PARADISE
I want more Goku bonding with his kids T_T
When I was a kid I vehemently defended Z being just as good, if not better than Dragon Ball. I was even hyped for Super.
Goddamn what a disappointment. I feel like no other series has gone from such quality (Dragon Ball) to slowly getting worse over time. Early Z was pretty good, but fuck.
I always loved how the movies were just "what if we take the climax of the current arc and do something different?"
Also still haven't watched anything past Buu/GT other than the movies, up to the Broly one. Does Buu get some love? Are the rest of the Z fighters just bystanders, like in the Buu saga? I heard Roshi did some cool shit but I'm sure he couldn't keep up with baddies that are on par with Beerus
We need a time machine to get prime Toriyama back
Did Toriyama suffer brain damage after he ended the manga?
Roshi fights in the Tournament of Power and fucks up several fighters
Buu also gets a good exhibition match before the tournament too
That doesnt stop from Future Goat happening in DA FUTUCHA
GENKI DAMA GA
Goten's black and orange gi looks so good.
The actual answer why Cell has not been back is because he costs too much to animate due to all of the little details on him. Japan has turned into mega-jews over budget since the 90's and no longer strives to put out good looking shit on shoe string budgets. The animators hate keeping track of that shit to boot, so he's never going to come back unless he gets a new spotless, simplified form right away
In the last arc Gohan, Roshi, 17 and 18 gets some highlights, but outside of that it's definitively the Goku and Vegeta show
*ahem*
SSJ4 >>>> SSJ blue
Step aside small fry
Good thread
>remove dots
>say he got new color due to Freeza and Saiyan-genes the moment he was revived
Yeah, that's very hard to do.
New form>>>>>>>>>> recolor
Man why cant Super have that intensity?
HAJIKE TOBUZE GO GO LET'S DO IT
Even Gohan and Piccolo had their moments. Piccolo moment with Kami and Nail was great
17 clearly had best moments. Tenshinhan and Krillin were fucked hard, especially Tenshinhan
I still don't get why they don't just make his body transparent and then put a pre-made texture with the damn spots if it's really such a trouble.
Because it was confirmed the directing was literally "do your best!"
CUTE!
>Piccolo moment with Kami and Nail was great
I fucking loved that
Vegeta going SSG in the movie was kino
>The SS10 mod is just him screaming as if he's in a constant state of pain
I was laughing the entire video.
I always felt bad for Turles, he got asspulled hard.
>Toriyama wants to do gag manga over more story-driven stuff.
>But he's probably the least funniest man to ever live.
(Raughs)
DORAGOOOOON SOOOOOOOOOOUUUUUL
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This opening gives me feels
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>inb4 gt rap
soul and canon
With how ludicrous his power is, Broly attaining SSGSS would make him the most powerful mortal character in the entire series, including fusions.
Indeed
>complete fused Namek gets his ass handed to him
What's the point?
i JUST WANT DRAWN OUT BATTLES WITH SHIT LIKE AND FOR CHARACTERS OTHER THAN GOKU AND MANLET GOKU BEING RELEVANT
Here's one more thing
How come Bulma is so damn sexy? afro looks stupid tho.
>Thic Bulma clone
>everyone turning into demons, even Chichi and Bulma
Dick came buckets, as much as in og DB with all that ero shit
Poor Veggiechan T_T