What is the one major flaw that stops this from reaching the level of acclaim of Chrono Trigger & FF6?
What is the one major flaw that stops this from reaching the level of acclaim of Chrono Trigger & FF6?
Jonathan Smith
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Samuel Wood
idk never played it
Lincoln Campbell
There's nothing good about IX. Everything it does was done better by a previous installment.
Kayden Jenkins
> FF8 fag is bitter & seething about FF9
Typical
Christian Rogers
Shit cast outside of two characters, sleep inducing combat, mediocre OST compared to previous and future games
Camden Gomez
it's better than VI, VI is a shitty game
Michael Cox
ff8 is so bad that leveling hurts you
Sebastian Lee
final fantasy 9 being in final fantasy tier is correct. It's the only game that carries the spirit the series set out to achieve. good list friend.
John Nelson
Discs 2 and 3 aren't finished.
Dylan Murphy
> 1. It's Boring
> 2. The Combat Sucks
> 3. Kuja is utterly ruined once you reach Terra
These are the only reasons
Liam Diaz
Characters like Freya stop mattering even before the halfway point. Also the load times were long.
Jace Jenkins
The battle speed, the Trance system, the last portion of the story
Jonathan Cooper
The ATB is slow even on the fastest setting and you can't hold on to Trances until you really need them.
Other than that, nothing. IX is a practically perfect game.
Luke Reed
Slow as hell random battles
Carter Taylor
Everything in final fantasy 9 feels very safe. There's a lot of things in the game that are good, but nothing really stands out which is probably why it was so forgotten
Also it goes to shit at the end
Hudson Garcia
Jaxson Price
This is correct.
Hudson Roberts
By being one of the worst FFs and certainly the worst of the 3D era FFs.
Carter Collins
Seething FF8fag, Cope more
Luis Scott
Slow story pacing, slow combat.
Otherwise it's perfectly fine, great even.
Thomas Long
>nearly impossible to minmax or 100% without suffering a nervous breakdown
X is my favourite because it's easier to play.
IX is a chore on a timer
Benjamin Turner
Combat too easy. Stuff like regen is just broken.
Ethan Evans
Why do you have to blame other games for the shortcomings of your own?
Christian Wood
enemies have small health pools.
Ozma only has like 65k hp IIRC
Eli James
Becuase assmadd FF8 cucks are the only ones who cry about FF9 being the "worst"
Mason Gomez
user's got a point. Anyone with a brain could see that XIII is infinitely worse.
Christian Davis
..and everyone else who recognizes the game for the shit it is.
Sorry, sweetie.
Jordan Richardson
You have to be mentally retarded to even imply a game that functions is worse than XIII and XV.
Cooper Nguyen
not many liked the character designs.
Carter Cook
it's not a shit game by any stretch of the imagination, it's the best PS1 title by far.
Chase Brooks
13 has a coherent story and challenge unlike ff9 which is a jumbled mess with cartoon tropes and a stupid setting (random furries??????????)
William Wood
>X-2 SS tier
>VIII S tier
It must be painful, being this wrong
Jace Gray
Kill yourself contrarian, it is objectively the best PS1 game aside from Chrono Cross
Aaron Davis
>coherent story and challenge
Liam Lee
Everyone acting like Kuja destroying the world would be sad while the two hippo mother and son are the only ones on the entire globe. THE ENTIRE GLOBE. THEY ARE ENDANGERED AND SOOJN TO BE EXTINCT.
They only way they can recover is through incest breeding.
Matthew Sanders
characters all look creepy/overstylized
story is absolute snooze tier that goes full-retard at the end
everything in the game plays out slower than it should, becoming extremely tedious as a whole
still better than X though, since X is the same except it's utterly a linear corridor in design, but made the characters anime-creepy so weebs lap it up
Alexander Diaz
>target demographic: everyone too young to enjoy a regular final fantasy title
>faggy antagonist
>characters only memorable because of their weird design choices
but
>good soundtrack
Alexander Torres
Why would anyone care about hippos going extinct?
Jacob Smith
Don't forget II and the weird crossover phone games.
Nolan Carter
Not featuring enough of the best character.
Caleb Carter
Did nier: automata 'defeat' the final fantasy series?
Parker Foster
FF9 fans are the most contemptible.
>Pretend Zidane is a chad because he goes after the girl from moment 1
self-cucks all game and has the most pathetic emo segment of all protags.
>Pretend the cast is good.
All of the characters are pointless fodder with no purpose in the story other than Freya, Steiner, and Vivi for mere minutes
>Pretend the game is deep because Vivi has one minute of existentialism
>Villains are all one dimensional cartoon villains
>Combat is trash outside the 5 minute load times each battle
James Taylor
After the death of Brahne, and also what is also the end of the first part of the games conflict was about. Instead of staying home and helping fix the damage of the war, you continue to run away for absofuckinglutely no reason whatsoever. It's so jarring and nonsensical. Also Necron out of fucking nowhere.
Jace Rodriguez
FF9 fans, ladies ans gents.
Ryder Foster
Is this a copypasta?
It's definitely got misinformation going for it.
Robert Edwards
it's true. With all its faults it's still the best PS1 one.
Ayden Morales
Reminder that Zidane's emo moment lasts all of five minutes before he realizes he has loved ones who care about him and realizes he was being a dick.
Connor Hall
as weird as it sounds I wish IX was more linear. Whenever the game was linear I was very interested in it. Whenever there were a bunch of options to do I lost interest. I have still never beaten
Owen Cook
Steiner was the only character with potential and they turn him into comic relief.
Shit game.
Jeremiah Allen
Chocobo Hot n Cold and the treasure hunts were the most fun Chocobos have ever been in a FF game.
Connor Foster
rat thighs
Luis Butler
>the most pathetic emo segment of all protags
It was absolute kino and you know it.
Jason Howard
Gavin Thompson
this, I'll never understand the hate Chocobo Hot n' Cold gets, it was actually a really fun and rewarding sidequest.
Juan Cook
>"Remember the exact bland geography pictured? No? Fuck you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
Jeremiah Robinson
Each continent was pretty distinct. It wasn't hard at all.
Matthew Brooks
I like the creative characters in FF9. More than just edgy anime characters, it has, dare I say, SOUL
Levi Williams
FFIX would probably be my favorite FF if not for the fact that I'm extremely biased towards VII since it was my first. It just does everything so solidly, I'd say it's biggest strength is that it doesn't really have any major flaws
Nicholas Evans
this is the dumbest fucking tier list i've ever seen and i've seen a lot of tier lists
Elijah Brown
Both Final Fantasy VII and VIII are better.
Camden Wood
It's just too slow. Getting in and out of battles takes too long. If that wasn't the case 7 and 9 would be on the same level.
Leo Green
It didn't release in 1994.
That's literally it.
Aiden Green
Save lives
Owen Johnson
Dominic Cook
Carson Allen
Why is she so perfect?
Jayden Thompson
It's a gameplay tier
Mason Perry
ugly fuckrat
Daniel Williams
She's a badass warrior and 100% devoted to her man, even if it hurts her
Ryan Flores
Freya is wife tier
Joseph Brooks
I'm not sure I'd put XV in the FF Tier since you obviously meant it for the true ultimate definitive Final Fantasy game, hence why IX is there
Blake Gomez
ps graphics haven't aged as well as snes. beautiful backgrounds, but ugly blocky characters outside cutscenes. same is true of 7 and 8 with tactics as the iopposite (sprites > maps)
Dylan Evans
>most pathetic emo segment of all protags
If by most pathetic you mean greatest moment of self doubt and sadness ever displayed by a final fantasy protag than yes, I strongly agree
Josiah Bell
Real answer, being on PS1 fucked it. The PS2 was right around the corner from IX. If IX released a year prior it would easily be held in regards as high as those 2. Higher even, IX is just the an amazing game that suffered from circumstance
Daniel Richardson
>Amarant/Salamander
He's just not a very likable character in a cast of likable characters.
And the gameplay is a little slow. But that's all i can think of.
Nathaniel Morgan
Vivi and steiner?
Chase Myers
Are there any mods that speed up the ATB meters?
Eli Bennett
Elijah Campbell
Despite what Yea Forumsirgins say, it's a highly regarded game. I love the story, cast, art, and music, but the combat is so slow that the game can feel boring and tedious. I recently replayed VII and VIII and was surprised how quickly the battles played compared to IX. Why is IX so goddamn slow?
Anthony Green
It came out after FF7 so it doesn't get the bonus nostalgia points.
Jayden Hill
?
Kevin Williams
she's in a gacha and she's getting a figure
Jonathan Peterson
>19 years old
>doesn't get bonus nostalgia points
hipster
Leo Harris
FF9 may not be the best at any one thing but it feels the comfiest to me. Everything is just quaint and laid-back. 7 and 8 had a lot of contemporary and high tech content that clashed with the fantasy part of the game. 9 had just the right amount of each
Hunter Ward
The writing is on a level way, way lower than the plot. Reading a synopsis of the plot makes the game sound beautiful, but the actual dialogue is teen fanfic tier.
Anthony Ramirez
Animal people are the only way to express facial depth in an anime-style illustration without it looking off
Samuel Harris
best post.
FF9 fans are incels, mentally children, or furfags - of course, any combo of the 3 too.
Logan Sanchez
depends on the style
Grayson Perry
underrated
this is the actual answer.
Connor Torres
>tfw no burmecian gf
Adam Perry
Henry Walker
That's VIII, chicken-wuss
IX has some good stuff in, and some legit laughs.
Hunter Evans
Caleb Johnson
Asher Williams
slow ass random battles and trance being wasted during random encounters
Caleb Davis
you can tell the furfag that drew this is a fag
Levi Nguyen
Some of the non-Chocobo minigames are kind of bullshit as far as JRPG minigames go.
Jeremiah Scott
haha why would I want to marry Freya? Sure she's kind and intelligent and mature and has an underlying passion, but she's not human lol! Why would I marry her. Can you imagine? lol
Joseph Anderson
This is actually the best FF. Probably didn't do well because its overshadowed by Spiky Anime Haired titles before and after, but this is the most based FF with the realest characters, storyline, and gameplay.
Andrew Campbell
Was going to mention something else but the Freya fanbase seems reason enough based on this thread.
Henry Gomez
What if you did?
Joshua Thompson
Nothing it's better than FF7 in every way.
Crono/FF6 are just laced with nostalgia dust. From old timers that "Remember when dem games were gud, and nothing can ever be better!" I'm old, but I know when to leave the past in the past.
Oliver Wilson
Isaac Watson
I never saw it right either and it's too bad because she's pretty
>those eyes
Matthew Baker
The gags are good, but true of many FF games.
FFVIII has actual end-of-game plot details that are just pointless, plus the whole weird thing where the ugly yellow giant goiter people reincarnate as fuzzy dog-bois
Blake Bailey
Mason Johnson
I'd take Freya over the others. She's a nice person. Not human? That's racist dude.
Camden Harris
haha okay I'll play along
Well I'd take her to Lindblum for the wedding and we'd have the ceremony out on that grassy plain outside the city. Then we'd ride the cable car to the mountains, just the two of us.
lmao
Jack Wilson
Carson Jones
Nolan Phillips
Blake Morales
Wouldn't everyone think it was weird though?
Joseph Hughes
Yeah, who would want an fit, loving and loyal-to-a-fault nonhuman wife? lmao
Tyler Bell
Landon Jackson
Ethan Turner
Jayden Gomez
In that world, probably not.
I never herd anything about banging hot blue alien chicks in Mass Effect, or the Quarian I really wanted later.
I was railing Succubi in the Witcher, other than my other Witcher drinking buddies where like "Ahhh you horndog."
All context.
So, nah.
Jose Robinson
Isaiah Hall
Aiden Ramirez
Jaxson Perez
Bentley Miller
>official freya nude
sheeeit
Aaron Gray
Does anyone else love both IX and X? Their designs are fairly diametrically opposed and I rarely see someone specifically praise/defend both. Sometimes I fear it's just because they were the first ones I played
Easton Perez
>SS
>X
lol nigga you gay!
David Nguyen
Logan Ramirez
9 was the first one I played and only played through it once because I didn't want to miss anything.
Jason Robinson
The loading times and general slowness of the time. I recently finished it on Switch and I can't imagine playing it without the fast forward button, even then it didn't help with the loading times. The Trance system is also a downgrade from Limit Breaks. Zidane is also just a random brat and unlikable protagonist until the last quarter of the story.
By the way, Steiner is underrated as a character, imo he has as much personality and character development as Vivi.
James Cooper
Nathan Taylor
>and only played through it once because I didn't want to miss anything.
I'm not sure I understand what you mean by this
Andrew Morgan
Loved 9, Tidus sucks. Hated 10 the art design was shit, it was just a bad game.
BLUE HAIR ANTLERS!
Andrew Gomez
>What is the one major flaw that stops this from reaching the level of acclaim of Chrono Trigger & FF6?
Look at what constitutes the majority of the images posted in this thread and you have your answer. Even the devs knew it'd be problematic and left it off the cover.
Henry Morris
There are things you can miss in the game once you go to different disks
Dominic Rogers
My nigga....
That said, back in the day I never really noticed Freya but now? Yeah, I'd bang her. I guess she's the one that got away though.
Ryder Green
Uh... you look good. Never thought you could look like a proper lady though.
Eli Gomez
So you mean you did a completionist run
Surely you don't mean you played it once and then never touched it again, r-right user?
Joshua Wood
Yeah, reunited with her "friend". But it was a good ending for her, story arc was pretty well done.
Gavin Walker
Sort of yeah. I'm just too lazy to go back and do all that shit again. I want the best items for everyone early on. I do like the game. Bought it on PS1 and PS4.
Ryan Hernandez
>Excalibur II
Xavier Watson
Camden Miller
You can't even use it that much once you get it.
Liam Moore
I kind of know that feel. I do a playthrough every 1-2 years but kind of conked out on my last run because I was trying to do the stupid minmax level strategy to mix things up and it just got too damn tedious constantly switching out everyone's equipment
Zachary Gomez
The combat is boring as fuck. This is my number 1 all time favourite game of all time for nostalgia reasons but I remember playing Chrono Trigger for the first time afterwards and being amazed at how much better the combat was on an older game.
Jeremiah Cooper
But the elephant in the room....
What in the unholy tranny hell is this? I guess it's not as bad as blue hair antlers but cone on!
This is the only thing that made me sit back and scratch my head.
Aaron Roberts
bragging rights
mastery of the game and its systems
Did you know it's possible to 100% the game and get Excalibur II in one run? It's extremely time constraining and RNG dependent on getting the drops you need early game so you don't have to farm too long, but doable
Luis Sanchez
>slay Hilgars and steal the Fairy Flute
>she gives you this look
What does it mean?
Dylan Perry
Steal rate alone disqualifies FFIX from being the top.
Sebastian Reed
Not enough gaming humors.
Caleb Stewart
The combat is too slow, even when you set it to max speed. The default ATB rate needed to be higher and the animations needed to be a bit shorter. That said, it's a very serene and comfy game to be played when you are a child during the summer and don't have any responsibilities.
Austin Peterson
Jackson Bailey
>59 posters
>145 replies
>its all 1 or 2 faggots spamming their furry fetish
can you see that you single handedly lower the quality of the threads you enter
Ethan Adams
That only applies to like, two battles though
Asher Hall
Stole the Fairy flute.
That explains why this guy is mad.
Ayden Wilson
porn aside they draw really cute snooters
Camden Perry
Freya officially never has her face drawn.
Christopher Young
Brandon Ortiz
tetra triad was the best final fantasy minigame. fucking fight me.
Kevin Miller
Alexander Russell
John Wood
>X-2
Thanks for the bait man
Hunter Brooks
I've beat this game dozens of times and play the fuck out of the card game each and every time and I still don't really know what the fuck is going on.
Luke Mitchell
Considering I'm right at the end so far for the first time, I'm not quite sure
It definitely has one of the WORST licensed players guides ever but so far I think it might be one of my favorite Final Fantasies
I'm not gonna read the thread for too long since I just started disc 4, but, i can't find many flaws so far
Ryan Adams
An opening so boring that I never managed to get past it
Carter Powell
good backgrounds
Levi Campbell
>ywn make her happy
hold me lads
Caleb Kelly
I enjoyed both a lot, although I do prefer IX over X, but that's not to say X is bad. If anything I enjoyed X's suerbosses more than in any other Final Fantasy.
Brayden Rodriguez
...but that's so taboo!
It's an Active Time Event
Julian Howard
>game tries to explain the card game
>finally get to the CITY WHERE THERES A LITERAL CARD COLOSSEUM
>"what do the extra numbers and letters on card mean"
>LOL PLAY MORE LEARN FOR YOURSELF
I found combos that naturally work and just win every game with a final combo over but damn I felt butt hurt
Game is kind of easy though, still, i like the story and characters, not sure if ill do all the side quests
Lincoln Gomez
The other characters are just fillers. Amarant, Freya, and Quina felt like they're just bolted on the game. They felt more like henchmen rather than characters themselves. Each one in FF6 and CT have their own richness they could be the main hero in the story.
Hunter Cruz
It is generally agreed that Steiner is a boss, its just he is chained at the hip to Beatrix who is a very love or hate character.
Caleb Evans
>level of acclaim
Absolutely nothing is keeping it from reaching the level of those games since it surpasses them. Before you get your underwear in a bunch, I'm talking acclaim, not quality. Hell, IX would have to be hated by most of the people it sold to since it has almost double the sales as VI and more than double the sales of CT referring to each games main release and not subsequent releases. It has always been a vocal minority pushing the fake popularity of the other two and especially so for CT. Again, popularity, not quality...
Hunter Ross
It's a gate keeping event to keep out shit-tier fans :3
Angel Fisher
Beatrix was too much of a bitch for me to sympathize with her when she finally turns against the Queen. Steiner is a character that I think you appreciate more in later play-throughs and perhaps as you get older. FFIX really has some great characters in its principal cast.
Dagger, Vivi, Steiner, and Freya are all excellent.
Jacob Johnson
This is me ^
one more question before I dip out and do a little end game grinding before the final dungeon,
are there any really fun/extra story bit side quests or is the main end satisfying enough,
I've enjoyed the game overall despite some flaws, just wondering how much else I should do
Luke Perry
Freya is trash
Jace Moore
>Amarant, Freya, and Quina felt like they're just bolted on the game.
Freya? You're crazy. Amarant, Quina, and Eiko, yes. Freya had a lot of development though. The problem is that she and Steiner get dumped out of the plot for an entire disc so that new characters who can come in who aren't as interesting and don't grow much. The three I mentioned should not have been party members.
Caleb Lopez
There's an optional boss who's way harder than the last boss, and a lot of chocobo grinding you can do.
Henry Campbell
Even monkey boy had his moments. Unlike Tidus who is always an insufferable moron.
Luis Thomas
I wouldn't say EVERY character in FF6 could be the main hero but it says alot that 6 has double the characters of 9 and only like 3 feel as superfluous as the non-Zidane/Vivi/Garnet/Steiner characters
Dylan Garcia
I'll keep that in mind. I found the players guide at a thrift for a few bucks and its as bad as I had heard and ill just use a gamefaqs guide but its wild that the old playonline site for 9 doesn't even exist anymore, actual useless guide beyond a basic story road map and some ability charts
Mason Gray
Because it's not a game as much as just a tribute, everything is just a reference and nod to the previous games. That's why it'll always be shadowed by the previous games.
Joseph Clark
I flip-flopped between preferring X or IX for a long time and eventually settled on IX. It just kinda worries me that after having played most of the other ones, I feel like the series as a whole goes something like IX > X >> power gap >> the rest, with no particular standouts among them. It smacks of nostalgic bias.
While I agree that the latter part of the game was a bit rough around the edges and a lot of characters get dropped/are never particularly relevant to begin with, I think deeming them outright "filler" is kind of dismissive. The real intent with IX imo was a basic exploration of existentialism(which is also why Necron appearing at the end makes sense from a thematic, if not necessarily narrative, point of view). Each character brings a different take on the basic existential crisis to the table, as exemplified by their character quote(i.e. Zidane's "You don't need a reason to help people," or even Quina's "I do what I want! You have problem?!")
David Morris
Battle tempo.
Everyone is waiting around like an additional minute and a half after haven gotten the order to do something, sometimes even getting attacked in the proces. In the previous games you press Fire and you fucking do a fire attack.
Anthony Collins
I wish everyone rating FFX above a C-tier would put bamboo shoots under the nails and hammer them in. By the way, this is the worst tier list I’ve ever seen for FF.
Brayden Howard
I remember not liking it too much at the start when I was a kid since my first FF was 7. The traditional fantasy setting really grew on me though and Vivi's still my favorite character in the entire franchise.
Also Eiko and Amarant were pointless characters and nothing would've really changed if they removed them.
Adrian Williams
What do you not like about X?
Jason Rivera
Is Freya a rat?
Cameron Carter
Probably le epic "linearity is bad!" meme and HA HA HA HA meme
Brandon Myers
Almost everything. The Story. The protagonists. The music. The atmosphere. Everything was trash in FFX except maybe the battle system. Blind nostalgia fuels its place in some people’s tier lists.
Landon Hall
Since people are talking about X, I will likely buy X on the Switch eShop and play it for the first time once it comes out, anything I need to know and is the game bearable to play without fast forward?
Jason Lee
A cute rat
Juan Campbell
Nolan Gonzalez
I implore you not to buy the remastered version because they fucked up the faces beyond belief and have only progressively made it worse by tacking on more and more idiotic post-processing crap on every subsequent release
William Miller
field mouse or something
Angel Harris
Well since I'm up I might as well play the game again and not be so OCD about missing things.
Jose Cook
STAY AWAY
FROM THE SUMMONER
Asher Price
Freya isn't lewd like that
Joshua James
Honestly the lack of an overworld map to explore almost ruined the game for me. I kept playing hoping one would open up but all you get are menus to places you've already been to.
Dylan Evans
>those thighs..
Oh my... oh no...
Nathan Parker
Because IX is the Undertale of FF games, the fanbase is full of weird pedos who jerk off to cartoon rats or something.
Jayden Roberts
>mediocre OST
>literally spent the most they ever have on the production
Isaiah Ortiz
Xavier Sanders
>Freyja's bloomerish undershorts
Amazing
Landon Howard
I'm going to marry Freya!
Gabriel Lewis
Zidane doesn't do any cool shit
>attack
>steal
Im on disc 3, lv.32 and he hasn't changed.
Owen Butler
>mediocre OST
THIS. What the fuck is up with this?
Christian Diaz
How so?
Adam Nelson
>*throws self to floor in defeat for the 50th time
>muh fratley
Really nigga?
Levi Thomas
Why does that matter?
Kayden Gomez
Jonathan Young
I used to think the story sucked when I was little and was too dumb to read between the lines.
Now I understand it better and it all fits together perfectly.
Chase Perez
Nah
Gavin Harris
Brandon Thomas
Liam Powell
>the last portion of the story
>Also it goes to shit at the end
Not sure why people say this. The end wraps everything together quite nicely.
I feel like the only people who say this are emo fags who wanted all 4 discs to be a sappy love story about garnet and zidane and sperg out once all the actually interesting ancient alien shit starts
Bentley Bennett
4 is better
Joseph Lopez
Xavier Ross
Its lackluster, it being the most low selling title is proof of that. also tired of most of the Muh High Fantasyfags who only played this shit complaining FF is ruined cause it isnt another Dragon Quest clone
Chase Taylor
You are forgetting one thing: many peoples first experince with the series was VII. Then VIII gave them even more modern realism. Then an actual legacy FF came out and no one could understand why it was so cartoony and light hearted. Then X went right back to modern realism.
Liam Davis
I mean I kind of agree with you but calling FFX "modern realism" is a bit of a stretch
Leo Sullivan
>doesn't get the bonus nostalgia points.
I bet you think RE4 is a "modern" RE game too. Time waits for no man user.
Benjamin Clark
James Turner
Ian Nelson
Yes but almost all the art i see makes her race look like some sort of dog instead
Jose Nguyen
jesus that does sound like the undertale fanbase actually
Cameron Jones
>mfw Steiners Trance model literally had buzz lightyear colours
Josiah Jackson
>Zidane acts as a father figure towards Vivi
>Tries to swoop a princess
>"""random brat and unlikable protagonist"""
Aiden Thompson
Yeah. I saw the TAS for it. As you said, very high RNG requirements as well as managing missables so you can deal with what you can't miss after you get Excalibur II.
Joseph Gomez
Feels like being in your own village whether it's not your town.. this song has magic in it damn beautiful
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Lincoln Collins
Because it didn't release in the same time frame as Chrono Trigger and FF3/6, meaning the people who hold *those* games in such high regard didn't get the chance to play FF9 during their formative years, like those other games.
It's better than both in almost every way, it just released at the wrong time.
Cameron Stewart
>Each character brings a different take on the basic existential crisis to the table
How high are you on farts right now?
Look I like FFIX dude but like half the characters are straight up garbage.
"""existential crisis"""
wow yeah quina talking about how hungry it is every 4 seconds in broken english, so fucking deep dude
Alexander Watson
>Shit cast outside of two characters
This is a big problem. None of the characters are particularly likable and only a few of them are fleshed out beyond an origin story. Some are obnoxious (Vivi, Eiko), downright repulsive (Quina), while others feel like a complete afterthought (Freya, Amarant).
The character design is also a big hurdle imo. I avoided FF9 for a very large portion of my adolescence despite enjoying FF7, 8, and 10 very much, mostly because it looked like a children's game. Human characters are strangely proportioned, almost super deformed. Amarant and Freya's designs are almost incomprehensible in the mess of polygons that construct their models. I didn't think Amarant even had a fucking face until I saw some fanart. Also, furfaggotry abounds, which is much more offensive and noticeable in detailed 3D than it was in, say, FF6.
Christian Young
Both are great, and I love both equally.
FF9 was a fantastic last hurrah for the "classic" style, and 10 is probably the closest that the FF series has ever come to striking the golden balance between art direction, technological ability, and gameplay. Every game since went too hard in one of those three categories to the detriment of all else.
Blake Harris
If it weren't for the Great Crystal FFXII would be the perfect game. Also, imperfect steal gambit being a design choice.
Christian Rogers
A lot of the music in FFIX has an indescribably "nostalgic" quality to it that doesn't necessarily have to do with nostalgia for the game itself. It's like the game tries to embody the concept of nostalgia itself independent of any specific reference.
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Lincoln Ward
How the fuck is Vivi obnoxious. He barely says anything besides his little arc where he discovers his origins
James Wood
I don't expect you to get every single reference(some of them are admittedly a bit reaching) but you're an idiot or a child if you don't get that the overarching theme of IX is emphatically existentialism. Like, it's not even slightly ambiguous.
Hunter Hernandez
I generally hate Eiko but I did actually almost cry when she helps you at the Iifa tree and then you go back to Maidain Sari and she finds out that someone has stolen the treasure her deceased grandfather told her to protect while everyone was gone.
And then Zidane promptly bursts in and tells her to man up essentially. She's fucking 6 dude.
William Watson
>le philosophical video game man
back to ribbit
Kevin Thomas
it was released after 7, so the fanbase that flooded the series won't accept anything that isn't CG fap material
David Ortiz
Alexander Jenkins
neogaf.com
never forget square lost the original hi-res art for the backgrounds
Camden Fisher
>garnets ass
>beatrix tits
>not CG fap material
Kevin Nguyen
>ooh soft
it's okay ai upscaling will save us
Liam Brooks
>lol philosophy is for tranny sjws
>r-right guys? do i fit in yet?
Sebastian Myers
>anything that isn't CG fap material
>implying Freya didn't turn me into a chronically masturbating furry
Jaxson Ortiz
put yourself out of your misery
Jackson Sullivan
No I'm busy jacking off
Eli Garcia
i love the story and characters of IX but it's too slow. way too slow. it somehow feels slower than VII and VIII even though that wouldn't make sense. definitely not as fun to play as chrono trigger or VI, but i would rank it about equal with chrono trigger and above VI based on its story and characters alone
Austin Jackson
All I'm saying is Freya would be more popular with artists if she was a fox like Renamon. Contrary to popular belief rodents aren't that popular. Especially rats.
Leo Cruz
how do you explain this entire thread then
Jason Lopez
What about this thread? Freya in general doesn't have very many pieces of art. In fact a short lived character like Lola Bunny's Classic Design or Krystal have more porn and art. Freya is from the globally popular FF franchise and has more screen time than at least Lola and she doesn't get much. Not even re-releasing FF9 multiple times has helped her standing.