post one unpopular opinion for each era
>Mania Plus didn't even come close to reaching 3K's quality
>SA2's only annoying/boring part is the Chao raising
>Colors doomed us all
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Anthony Campbell
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Oliver Russell
Man, you just wanna START with conflict, huh? I'm game.
>Sonic 2 is good, but it's a 7/10 compared to Mania and 3&K's 10/10
>Sonic Heroes is better than SA1 and 2, but it wouldn't be if those games were just the Sonic Levels
>Sonic Unleashed isn't great, even with the day stages taken into account.
Lincoln Thomas
>Colors doomed us all
I agree. I played it the other day and it was such a piece of shit. Generations was okay since the level design was way better and they gave the 2D filler to Classic Sonic, but overall that fucking meme game cursed 3D Sonic with boost formula forever. This shit got old REAL fast.
Matthew Myers
I legit fucking love Chronicles to the point where I've replayed it multiple times and it's probably in my top 10 Sonic games.
In fact, the only Sonic game I legit didn't enjoy was Unleashed. And I've played Forces, 06, etc.
Kevin Brown
>Western Robotnik is better designed than Normal Robotnik
>Sonic 3D Blast is better than Adventure 1 and it captures the feeling of momentum better than any 3D Sonic to date
>Sonic Lost World was fun and I hope it gets a sequel
Logan Baker
>Sonic 3D Blast is better than Adventure 1 and it captures the feeling of momentum better than any 3D Sonic to date
Know what? Yeah. I agree.
Grayson Williams
3D Sonic can only be saved if they have Platinum make it.
Blake Hall
>Classic games were never good
>Dreamcast/PS2 era Sonic was it's peak
>Literally don't care for modern Sonic
Kayden Ramirez
Sonic and the black knight is a good game
People who think the Saturn version of this game has better music is dead wrong
Henry Cook
>Mania was solid but probably 6/10 at best
>Sonic Heroes was holocaust-tier awful
>The Advance series was shit with the worst level design of any Sonic games, worse than the fucking Game Gear Sonics I played as a kid
>Oh, and the music in Advance was shit, seriously, who do those game games even exist
>the Sonic 3&K soundtrack is the only one out there that approaches DKC2 in terms of sheer perfection
>the US soundtrack of Sonic CD is far superior than the Japanese version- the latter had it's moments but ultimately was disposable bullshit better suited for a shitty anime
>Sonic Spinball was shit but had good music and an entertaining amount of bugs at times
Popular? Unpopular? Fuck it, don't care, there ya go
Kevin Russell
>Sonic CD is the most overrated Sonic game ever
>Heroes was not that bad and way better than Shadow
>Advance 1 is the only GBA Sonic worth relaying
>Sonic Battle was a boring game and had weird character writing and horrible canon inconsistencies; Shadow waxing philosophical about being a "living weapon", Amy having literal hallucinations of Sonic, Chaos emeralds and the Master emerald casually being shattered, etc
>Black Knight was the best written game on the series, and captured the proper tone and characterization for it's story and setting.
>Unleashed had a boring story
>Colors was an absolute cringe fest
>Generations is the second most overrated Sonic game ever
>Every boost game is inherently shallow and a betrayal of what Sonic is supposed to be
>Forces was a worse than 06, since at least 06 was so bad that it forced Sonic Team to stop sniffing their own farts and actually put effort into their games again.
David Campbell
>Sonic 3 is the worst classic game
>all 3D Sonic games are shit
>who cares
John Miller
I unironically liked Sonic 3d Blast and was confused about people saying it was bad.
I also think Sonic R is secretly a good game that was only held back by the developer's lack of experience in 3d gameplay.
Saturn Rusty Ruin is quite nice.
Andrew Lewis
Just gonna state the obvious, no sonic soundtrack will ever come close to sonic R
Hudson Brooks
>Sonic 3&K & Mania are only considered the best because they're the easiest games in the classic series
>The Chao Garden isn't fun for me
>Forces is OK. Not a dumpster fire like 06, but nowhere near the quality of Generations or Unleashed
Jordan Russell
I love Sonic Mania but the "Plus" part of the equation is laughable. Encore mode's stages are barely different, the character switching system is abysmal, and no one likes mighty and ray.
William Diaz
Of course, its cheese transcends cynicism and cuts to the heart. It is beloved exactly because it is cheddar incarnate.
Hudson Moore
Ray is optimal for speedrunning.
Mighty is useless though.
Nolan Long
>Sonic 3&K & Mania are only considered the best because they're the easiest games in the classic series
This is definitely true of Sonic 3. In Mania's case, it's more of a recency bias thing. And the fact that it's the first good Sonic game since 1994.
Logan Brown
3K is a great game, but I like 2, CD, and Mania over it.
Adventure 1 plays great really wish we had a game that played like it but really took advantage of its spindash.
Don't really have one for modern.
Kayden Hughes
I don't like Sonic at all
Except the fast food joint. That's alright.
Cooper Perez
So uuh.. What did S3&K do better than Mania except nothing at all?
Lincoln Watson
>Every "classic" game has pretty bad bosses, even Mania
>There's nothing good about the Adventure games, not even the Sonic sections
>Generations is far from a masterpiece, but it's the only 3D Sonic game worth playing at all
Nolan Hall
Story, soundtrack, level design, act transitions, bosses, more unique stuff for Knuckles' playtrough, Super Emeralds and overall not relying on nostalgic elements to make a fun game
Angel Miller
>Story, act transitions, Super Emeralds and overall not relying on nostalgic elements to make a fun game
These are next to irrelevant
>soundtrack
Up to taste
>level design
3&K is more varied in a way, but Mania is much more consistent and polished overall
>bosses
Neither of the games has good bosses
>more unique stuff for Knuckles' playtrough
Well, this is true
Matthew Reyes
>>Forces was a worse than 06, since at least 06 was so bad that it forced Sonic Team to stop sniffing their own farts and actually put effort into their games again.
Literally no games have come out after Forces yet, who is to say that this can't also be the case with Forces?
Brandon Brooks
>>Sonic 3&K
>>easiest games in the classic series
>What is Marble Garden, Launch Base, Flying Battery, Sandopolis, Lava Reef?
Kevin Perry
Glad I'm not the only one who replayed it multiple times, I have a headcanon that Chronicles lead into Unleashed thanks to Eggman having the huge fleet and emeralds at the start.
Adam Turner
This
Zachary Harris
>Sonic
>Story
I think the soundtrack in Mania was better by miles. I feel like the level design in Mania was good. Yeah I do agree on Knuckles run having more unique stuff in 3&K, playing as big nig echidn feels almost pointless. It's true that Mania relied a lot on nostalgia because it reused a lot of old Zones but I feel like the changed up the level design and music enough to make them feel fresh. The only Zones I liked in 3&K were Hydrocity, Ice Cap, Lava Reef and Final Egg though. I like almost all zones in Mania except Oil Ocean.
Jose Russell
>3K
Hyper form hype aside, it's worse than Mania in every conceivable sense
Juan Nguyen
Sonic 3&K is the most overrated sonic game and 2 and mania shit all over it
SA2 mech shooting and treasure hunting are a blast to play
sonic heroes is a glitchy mess of a game and the worst 3d game
shadow the hedgehog is fun asf and could've been so much better
Daniel Adams
>SA2's only annoying/boring part is the Chao raising
It's not an unpopular opinion if it's just outright wrong.
Zachary Wright
Yeah, no. The only thing that was holding 3K back was lack of modern QoL features but with 3 AIR, it made me realize I still like it way more than Mania. The bosses are much faster compared to Mania's slow and fucking monotonous, boring bosses. And Hydrocity is one of the best zones in 3K while it's the worst one in Mania.
Ryan Brooks
Mohawk sonic is his best design
Levi Morales
>Sonic 1 is the best classic game
>Adventure 2 music is not that great
>Sonic Lost World is a good game.
Michael Price
I find that 3&K is more difficult to complete, and more difficult to score well on. This is especially true for getting all the emeralds, and the giant ring locations in S&K are kind of fucked at times.
Sonic Mania has a more seamless, Sonic 2 (speed, fun) meets S&K (sprawling, gimmick-laden) approach to level design. There are only a few tricky parts here and there, which are easily memorized. Some of the Mania bosses are annoying, but they are far more memorable. Mania has less friction and less tension overall.
Is Sonic Mania more fun for me? By far. But I still feel like a noob at Sonic 3&K, as there are so many fiendish micro-challenges and odd decision points I still think about to this day.
Nolan Ward
>Eggman
>having the emeralds at the start of Unleashed
user...
Landon Sanders
>3K's shitty bosses
>its zones are so bad compared to Mania's that old boring Hydrocity is one of the best ones in 3K but modern and upgraded Hydrocity is one of the worst of Mania
wew
Xavier Rogers
Boost Formula isn't the issue. Wisps are the problem.
Joshua Powell
Oops, may have got that part wrong but it turns out Sonic and the gang return with the emeralds anyways since he goes Super for the finale.
Juan Baker
In retrospect I don't really like Mania that much, repeat playthroughs feel like a slog.
Sonic Heroes is probably the least enjoyable game in the series I've played.
Sonic R is genuinely fun to optimize playthroughs of, one of the only games I've considered speedrunning.
Lincoln Scott
>but modern and "upgraded" Hydrocity that removed everything that made the original fun in act 1 is one of the worst of Mania
Ftfy
Liam Gray
Also opened up a room for Sonic Battle/Advance games here.
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Lucas Baker
>The 2d games are overrated, pretty sure Mario runs faster in his 2d games
>Sonic Heroes is kino
>Unleashed is the best "modern" release so far
Landon Scott
>The 2d games are overrated, pretty sure Mario runs faster in his 2d games
Stop watching Game Theory.
Brayden Stewart
>original Hydrocity
>"fun"
Joseph Powell
A long but easy level, an easy level with some dickish enemy and hazard placement sometimes but only in the original version, you really think this one isn't easy? yeesh, a long but easy level, and the first level in the game that shows a little teeth but is still kinda easy.
Jaxon Thompson
That's not me saying this, every time Sonic 3 gets brought up there's always someone bitching about one or more of these zones. And more often than not people like Sonic 2 more for being easier as opposed to 3.
Even disregarding that, all the zones I mentioned have way more going on compared to the majority of Sonic 2
Leo Jenkins
Sonic 2 has Oil Ocean, Metropolis, and Death Egg so I consider it a harder game
Charles Morris
This.
The music and a lot of the 3D were crap, but I enjoyed the game anyway. Some of those tunes were still catchy as poorly rendered midis, I enjoyed the battle system, and regardless of what happened with the archie comics because of it, I enjoyed the plot elements and the backstory and worldbuilding it included, even if the story wasn't anything special.
I hadn't actually read archie, heard the original songs or even played many RPGs when I played this, so that probably made the game seem better than it really was.
The new game+ was still shit though, and the radio quality generic rock was honestly worse than the crappy midis of good songs imo.
Jayden Wright
(not same poster) To be fair I played 2 more as a kid, so that's probably why I consider it easier. Silver Sonic is a nonentity, and the final bosses of 2 versus Knuckles seem equally hard to me. Metropolis Zone I get. I honestly wish there was a Sonic game that's at the difficulty level of Scrap Brain/Metropolis the whole way through.
Asher Lee
>Sonic 3&K is arguably one of the greatest games ever. Just period.
>The Adventure games are literally god tier with god tier gameplay, god tier characters and god tier plot. it's only the animation and voice acting that's poor. Big the Cat is the biggest pleb filter of all time and the only stages I dislike are SA2's version of the Emerald stages and Amy being slow as shit.
>All Modern-era Sonic games post-Unleashed are way too fucking short and it's bullshit. Every game is literally one hour long.
Blake Anderson
I would've liked it a lot more if playing it didn't give me hand cramps. Just let me use the damn dpad in the overworld.
An RPG you can only play an hour at a time is pretty annoying.
James Thomas
>Triple Trouble is underrated and is genuinely as good as 2 and 3&K
>Sonic Heroes came closest to getting 3D Sonic right
>Silver is a shit character and the fact that they thought he'd be the second coming of Shadow is laughable at best
Logan Watson
>The Adventure games are literally god tier with god tier gameplay, god tier characters and god tier plot
This opinion is as alien to me as saying water is dry
Jonathan Hughes
I mean let's be real they're all pretty easy games but I find 2 harder to play well. I usually have around 40 lives at the end of a 3&K run, in 2 I have around 10.
Super Sonic being easier to get and not forcing you to transform helps too.
Dominic Gray
user, this is dry water.
Also, water is not wet.