Hey wake up and be our strategist

Don't play the game at all. It's not good

That’s Panne.

Why did you post an empty image?

I wonder if Chrom is okay with me pounding his daughter in the next room.

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except half the girls links are all chrom related

>Not both

Low-tier Strategists

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why are axe wielders always so based?

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I realize that's a fetish picture but the logistics of it simply don't make any sense.
How are you supposed to have sex with them when their clothing is tied to them? Let alone the rope covering their genitals.
And that isn't even to say the position they're in. Again, they are bound together while also bound to the bed, in what appears to go all the way around the bed frame, so there would be no moving them from that exact position. Said position would make insertion, at any spot and any way, incredibly difficult. awkward and cumbersome.

It's just not logistically sound.

You masturbate to it.

I could actually imagine Robin saying some shit like that and ruining the mood.

What is the blank image for?

As shitty as the concept is in general, Awakening probably could have done the whole 'people you're born to vs the people who found you' better than Fates if the Plegians weren't worshiping Grima.

I mean the Nohrians besides recruitable characters are already evil as fuck so it wouldn't be a reach in the slightest.

Ok Chrom, I know Gangrel is right over there, defenseless, but I need you to stay still for 20 minutes while Olivia dances for you.

>not making a thread about the best 3ds FE game
YUGH

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this weirdo probably wears a chastity cage

You leave them tied up like that for hours until you sex them.

I'm sorry but a certain Hick gets Maribelle.

cringe

I'm going to marry Lissa! Making our sentai team pose with their cousins Lucina and Cynthia!

And then I'm going to send our son Owain to go fuck Kamui! Creating a child with Grima, Naga, and Anankos blood!

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imagine a fivesome with both of chrom's sisters and his two daughters

>hey stop playing video games, wake up and face reality

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This, it's stupid but it's worth it for the coolest Inigo

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>Wasting a Galeforce Dad like this
do you even strategy

based

Owain doesn't get MCs hair you triple retard delete this right now

kek

kek

>"I'm sorry Maribelle, he does this sometimes. I promise he's actually good at sex."

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Based robin

I'd molest them with my hands and tongue while they're powerless to do anything about it

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>not adding Chrom to the mix

Robin please I've given you two choices! You can fuck my sister or my daughter YOU CAN HAVE THEM BOTH Please you must carry on the Ylissean Royal Family!!! FUCK MY FUCKING FAMILY ALREADY GIVE ME GRANDCHILDREN

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I love autistic characters.

I-I'll marry Lucina if you become my daddy, Chrom-san...

Maribelle is for Gaius only

Chrom/Sumia
Robin/Lissa
Frederick/Miriel
Vaike/Cherche
Vision/Sully
Henry/Cordelia
Libra/Panne
Lon'qu/Olivia
Gaius/Maribelle
Stahl/Tharja
Donnel/Nowi
Fight me

>Robin/Lissa
lol no

>Robin/Lissa

lol yes

Sure, I'll fuck Cynthia.

Shame you didn't get with Cordelia, I would 100% would have fucked Severa if she was your daughter.

>Donnel/Nowi

Cool

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STOP IT

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He would want us to because he wants us to continue his bloodline

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im going to marry all the girls at the same time

HURRY UP AND FUCK SUMIA SO I CAN FUCK YOUR DAUGHTER

Based

Maribelle was 10/10 nearly every other wakening waifu falls short

>Chrom/Sumia
Worst pairing for Chrom

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>Libra/Panne
This is the only good one, letting the two most boring characters out of a cast of boring characters get together to limit the spread of monotony.

>Good
Robin/Lissa
Lon'qu/Olivia
Donnel/Nowi
Gaius/Maribelle
>Acceptable
Virion/Sully
Henry/Cordelia
>Disgusting
Chrom/Sumia
Frederick/Miriel
Libra/Panne
Anybody/Tharja

5/10, see me after class.

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#ignorethehaterslol

Why would he have a problem with that?

amazing

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Posted one of the worst axe bros, Vaike whole gimmick was just... meh
No surprise he never made into heroes or anything else for that matter

Sumia is the best wife for Chrom

he did make it into Nowi's hot dragon cunt though when I played

Sumia is the best wife for nobody.

>5/10
No that's 6/11

because she's a shit girl and he knows it

why waste your time on that flat loser when he has a perfectly good sister splattered on the Gangrel's lawn?

Amazing, literally the first time this post has ever had any merit

No way fag

What?

I don't really like her but she's his canon wife, it's out of my hands

How about I just fuck you

youtu.be/v8K87H3T1UU?t=26

What's wrong with Sumia?

I'm still bummed that sales were so bad, I just want more remakes and those poor sales make it much less likely

Sasuga Robin. That's why I made you bang your half sister

She really isn't.

The best wife for Chrom is unironically FRobin, followed by Olivia both from a game and a writing perspective.

don't know why they chose such a shitty game to remake

How would you feel about an Awakening reimagening on the Switch with an altered plot and so on?

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>Sumia
>canon wife

Aren't you forgetting someone?

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Denial play, m8.

>Henry is Cordelia's best support
>Severa looks stupid with white hair
It's not fair

FRobin doesn't exist in my universe

Her support with Chrom is abysmal, although most in Awakening are anyway but it stands out as bad even among them.

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Because the director personally loved the game even though nobody else did.

>minmaxing in the easiest fire emblem game
I hope you guys don't actually do this

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How could a non-canon character be his canon wife?

Can't be canon if there's no sequel to Awakening

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>t. never played Apotheosis

because it needed one that at least tried to mitigate some of the problems with the original

it's still not a great game and has garbage maps but the presentation makes it worth it.

She technically does since you can get one from the dragon gate.

Imagine if she had suddenly diarrhea, how does she undress that armor dress quickly?

>She really isn't.
She literally is.

>he best wife for Chrom is unironically FRobin
FRobin is wasted on Chrom. You want Chrom to have a second daughter so he can pass on Aether, not shitty Rightful King. Also you want FRobin to be paired up with a 2nd gen, not with a shitty 1st gen with shit speed. You suck at this game and you should stop having opinions.

tiermaker.com/create/fe13
post em

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Lucina and Severa.

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That's what happens when supports and children have become the staples of the series now. RIP

but I always use Ross and never use Seth

>non-canon
>following a literal spinoff made by a staff that doesn't even know shit about the game.

>Disgaea shit

Minmaxing is the only vaguely fun thing to do in the game.

The director was a big fan, although that's also the reason the map design and some other gameplay features stayed so close to the original.

There will be more Echoes games user. You've gotta remember that SoV had a much smaller budget, smaller team and was basically a passion project from a massive Gaidenautist at ISIS. Yeah, it didn't sell nearly as much as Awakening, Fates or Warriors, but it still sold enough to satisfy ISIS and show them there's a market for more remakes.

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I'd rather the same thing with Fates because Awakening's plot was fine.

Shit, just give me fates but all the same sex characters in each faction can A+ and I'd be happy.

You mean the worst 3DS FE game? Characters were shit, and it had some of the most god awful maps I've ever seen.

Based and Monkpilled

>Awakening's plot was fine

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I went for Cordelia, but Maribelle is literal perfection as well. Good taste, user.

Yes, it was. It was standard FE level retarded. Fates was multiple pairs of pantsu on head retarded in comparison.

No that's Cordelia.

Nu-Fire Emblem is still dogshit, fuck off zoomers.

*ahem*
Fates > Echoes > Awakening

Didn't say it was great, just saying that it wasn't abysmal garbage. It did have some good moments too, Chapter 10 alone instantly makes it better storywise then half of the series.

youtube.com/watch?v=iWO4ff1HXYY

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I want to fuck Chrom

Literally perfect

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Wow, how could anyone be so wrong?

Aether isn't that great a skill in Awakening, Rightful king in many cases is more useful. For Lucina FRobin is her best mother as it makes her a second Morgan, and also ensures that you can get Morgan much earlier. This is a godsend on Lunatic +. Chrom and FRobin pairup is also broken after S Support and Chrom reclaiming through the Knight classes.

Comparatively pairing FRobin up a second gen is also comparatively useless, even though it gives you a more powerful. Because it requires too much set up and you won't have Morgan for very long anyway.

Hey all. Cordelia here. I don't mind you talking about my Daughter (Lucina) and possibly discuss ways of making her into a woman. But please respect the wishes of her parents, Chrom and I, alright? She's just a little girl.

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Alm is fucking gay for not tapping this.

Awakening's plot is the standard Fire Emblem mediocreness, but it isn't offensively bad like Fates.

>Awakenshit thread
yikes

>It's okay because something worse exists!

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good taste but silque was my favorite from echoes. i have a thing for demure girls

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NEVER fuck the Yandere. NEVER.

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For me, It's Ophelia.

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>Not fucking them both at the same time
Smh

>Aether isn't that great a skill in Awakening,
Aether is the best proc skill in Awakening. It procs Luna and attacks twice.

> Rightful king in many cases is more useful
There is not one case where RIghtful King is more useful than Aether. It's a straight up 10% additional chance to proc Sol, Luna, Lethality, or Astra. That's garbage. Shit like +1 movement is infinitely better.

>For Lucina FRobin is her best mother as it makes her a second Morgan
Lucina doesn't need to be a "Second Morgan." She gets everything she needs from Sumia and Chrom.

>and also ensures that you can get Morgan much earlier
Who gives a shit about getting Morgan earlier? The main game is piss easy and you are wasting your time by training any child unit.

> Chrom and FRobin pairup is also broken after S Support
So is Chrom + Sumia, or Chrom + Sully, or Chrom + Olivia. It's the main game who gives a shit.

>muh Lunatic+
It's the same shit once you reset enough times to get beyond the first few chapters.

I want to grab F!Robin by her twintails and pull them as hard as I can while I fuck her doggy style!

Bitch deserved her misery.

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Not that user but Awakening's problems seem to stem from it not being very imaginative.

The game could use some base conversations, and the Valm arc wasn't necessary.

Fuck off Sumia

>choosing the female avatar
>getting cummed inside

NU-fe fags, I swear.

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which FE games should i play for the waifus and are playable on an emulator? thanks

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Awakening and Fates are the big waifu simulators, both are available on Citra

>Awakening's plot was fine.
You can't actually think this. It's so bad it shits on the original games

Who actually thinks these dogshit characters are good?

>Cherche so low
>Nowi so high
Delet

Better list, Miriel might be fun though a least.

Waifus as in marrying the girls, in which case Fates or Awakening, Warriors for the best models of the girls, or 7-9 for the slightly less 1-D girls that aren't marriable.

Or just hack/emulate the gacha to have ggirl the units you want

I said fine, not good. It's not offensively bad like Fates is. If anything, it provides more lore to the older games by combining the concept of the Branded and those with Holy Blood.

>Not protecting your virginity

Sinful.

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That's my granddaughter you're talking about

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On a 'orse

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Why is Lissa so underrated bros

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Way to go grandpa.

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Hot.

Were they going down a list of anime character archetypes, realized they haven't done the "cucked childhood friend" character yet, and made Faye? Because that's all she is.

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>Aether is the best proc skill in Awakening. It procs Luna and attacks twice.
It really isn't. All characters can attack twice if they proc their critical right and have enough speed.

>. It's a straight up 10% additional chance to proc Sol, Luna, Lethality, or Astra. That's garbage. Shit like +1 movement is infinitely better
Which is why it's better it gives a bigger chance of the character to proc their critical. Which when used in tandem with Galeforce makes it much more useful.

>Lucina doesn't need to be a "Second Morgan." She gets everything she needs from Sumia and Chrom.
So you're saying that Lucina shouldn't be stronger? What are you smoking? Are you seriously wondering why you would want a second version of the best unit in the game?

>Who gives a shit about getting Morgan earlier? The main game is piss easy and you are wasting your time by training any child unit.
Because Lunatic+ is literally bullshit. Also your point makes no sense. You're claiming that you don't need Morgan earlier and yet you're argument is that you should pair up FRobin with a second gen because it gives you a stronger Morgan.

>So is Chrom + Sumia, or Chrom + Sully, or Chrom + Olivia. It's the main game who gives a shit.
It really isn't statistically. Because Sumia, Sully, and Olivia aren't as good as FRobin.

>It's the same shit once you reset enough times to get beyond the first few chapters.

because everyone passes her up thinking she's the generic first come first pick and just go straight for Tharja's Tharjas instead, true patricians stick around however and find out that's 100% exactly what she is and her supports are fucking stupid and she has the best son who needs your genes to be any good so it's your duty to impregnate her.

If only they played the game she wouldn't be stuck as a bow unit

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Sumia is a fucking doormat

How cute, you think that you have a choice.

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I want more Sugita in FE games.

>F!Robin will never be your daughter
How can I go on bros

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The pleasure of being Chrommed inside

Is it weird that I like Inigio with Henry's hair?

Genghis Chrom

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Oops, forgot to change something.

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Technically FMorgan is a younger FRobin.
Also
>not save scumming to marry her yourself.

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>best 3DS FE game
>posts not only the worst 3DS FE game, but the 2nd worst FE game after the game it's a remake of

Pairing up Lonq is always such a challenge, he has so many good supports. Always struggling between Olivia, Maribelle and Cherche. Lissa and Panne are pretty solid too.

youtube.com/watch?v=kpQel47JNqo
I don't even care that awakening was full of tropes and finished the day with the power of friendship, this was the fucking perfect thing to end it with. It's so good.

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I always end up going with Olivia, the fact that he manages to do that sword trick he's practicing in her S rank gives it a sense of closure.

That smug image is sort of wasted user, no point acting smug when Gaidenshit is the whole reason for the disappointment, most of us have wanted remakes of the good games for a long time now.

I always pair him up with Lissa, it just seems to fit.

Reminder that the best girls are
Flavia > Say'ri > Maribelle = (Awakening) Tiki > Sully >>>> Everyone else

>olivia
>lissa
>maribelle
he's got good taste

>Flavia

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Cherche has great supports with everyone too.

I really like her with Vaike. Their personalities are a good fit; Vaike needs a girl who can put him in his place when he starts with his macho bullshit. And Gerome looks good blond.

>Not having Lonqu play house with the dragon loli

From a writing perspective FRobin and Sully are the only girls that have a half decent romantic support with Chrom

>have Chrom marry Sumia
>Cynthia mistakes some random bandit for her own father
explain this Sumiafags

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I want to fuck my own daughter

>Likable
>Attractive
>Actually has a presence in the plot unlike 80% of the other girls
>Great support with Robin
>Get to be bros with Basilio and an important strategic ally for your main bro Chrom going forward
Yup, best girl alright.

>Sully has the best Chrom support but makes the worst Lucina.

Cynthia also acts as though she's an only child in her father supports.

Did anyone else pair them?

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How many people got Chrom'd

in my case, i know almost nothing about cherche, havent used her in any of my playthroughs or gone through supports yet

Aether is a valuable skill, because the name of the game of the hardest maps in the game, the Apotheosis DLC, is maximising the odds that an offensive skill (Aether, Luna, Ignis, Astra) activates. Once your skill is greater than 20, you're more likely to activate an offensive skill by having Luna and Aether on the same unit than Rightful King and Luna. Since the distribution of Aether is very limited, and it's strictly better than Ignis, Sumia!Lucina is generally accepted as the strongest pairing, for giving Chrom!Cynthia the one thing she can't get from Robin - Aether. In additon, by marrying either Lucina or Chrom!Cynthia, Morgan can also inherit Aether, resulting in a total of three units capable of procstacking the two best offensive skills in Apotheosis; Aether and Luna.

She's really stupid.

Panne is for the hick shota.

i miss the 'nothing personnel kid' crit animations from the gba series

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From a personality perspective, Sully and FRobin really fit well with Chrom, as they are the women that Chrom spends the most time with and likes doing so.

But it's a shame about Sully and Lucina though.

It's a cute support, but I don't know with the other supports I can kinda see how "love would blossom", but not with Lonq and Nowi it's seems so platonic. Plus Nowi is for me.

>not using them as handlebars to facefuck her as hard as possible

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Judging by all the porn of it, Robin cucks Chrom and fucks Sumia on the daily. It's no wonder the poor girl mistakes random men to be her father.

I just wish that they got to Gaius being more invested in their B-support. It felt pretty rushed, but I think they're cute.

My favorite animation of all time in these games remains the Berserker's dodge animation.
Just a tiny little backwards lean. So good.

>Not making your daughter your wife
Absolutely unbased

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I always assumed that Cynthia's dad/Chrom died before she could retain any memories of him.

>Cordelia only wants Chrom cock
>so does Sumia
>Tharja lusting after MU dick
>lonk hates womyn
>Panne hates humans

For a game based around eugenics, they sure made a lot of these characters totally fucking unlikeable for that purpose.

>Went for Maribelle first run
>Let her hang around Chrom too much, ended up getting cucked
>Didn’t even know that could happen, had to watch my oneitis get cucked away from me completely and utterly
>End up fucking his sister in retaliation, but don’t love her
>Marry her too, the whole shebang
>Imagine that Chrom is very, very upset by this development, but doesn’t say anything about it to Lissa because he’s never seen her this happy
>We have two kids
>Love them both
>Can’t help but think about how this will all come crashing down

It was fucking surreal. I had two children with her and everything, but I didn’t enjoy it at all. I mean, I love my son Owain, and my daughter Morgan. But every time I look at them, I think of their mother, and I think, “Okay.” Just, “Okay.”
I mean, I love the little bastards, but I don’t feel anything towards their mother. I don’t hate her, but I don’t love her either.
That’s not right, is it? Was having those children worth marrying a woman I don’t like at all? Is that fair to them?
Did I even get what I wanted out of this? I mean, I hurt Chrom, but I only did that because he took Maribelle from me, and I’ll never have her now. Plus, I hurt Chrom by dragging his sister into this, and I might end up hurting her, which will hurt the only part of this whole thing I definitely enjoy; my kids.
So I hurt Chrom, I might hurt my wife, and I might hurt my kids, and I did all of it out of spite because I’ll never get to love Maribelle.

What a tangled web we weave.

Chrom and Maribelle reached Support Level S.

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>Not posting the kissu version

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almost wish i can get into this level of roleplay and self insertion but also glad im not autistic enough

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Everything you said was wrong. First of all it's generally accepted that Chrom and FRobin is the best pairing and the second best for Chrom is with Olivia. Sumia is third place. This is because statistically FRobin and Olivia give you a better Lucina. The two of them are better at min maxing and Sumia.

Even if you consider Apotheosis DLC you can still go through it just fine by not having Cynthia have Aether. Also even with a high skill it's up to RNG to decide whether or not the character will proc their skill. Rightful King makes it so that RNG is more in your favor.

Besides that Aether is redundant on Cynthia since she can learn renewal and Luna anyway. Aether is just overrated.

post more like this

I like this autism.

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Chrom was the king he has portraits of him all over the castle.

You choose a male Robin in FE13 because kids stats are linked to the fathers.
You choose a female Corrin in FE14 because kids stats are linked to the mothers.

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>You choose a female Corrin in FE14 because kids stats are linked to the mothers.
Wrong, you choose male so that you can marry your sister.

>cucked childhood friend
He did it first

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i want my daughter to bully and belittle me

>Olivia
>Good taste
Shadow of chaos please go and stay go.

Try her if you ever play through it again, on top of being a decent unit by herself she's a good fef boost to Lonk or transporter for Kellam

>Plot preference is a plus in choosing a waifu
Why is that?

They get their stats from both parents in Awakening.

You know you want to recruit me...

You sure you're not talking about fates?

>Sun
You know you want to add me to your army...

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Why do I get the feeling this is talking about tharbage?
Anyways, my friend killed her rather than recruit her.

You make male Robin for two kids, then

>cucked by girl's twin brother
The odds were against him.

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>First of all it's generally accepted that Chrom and FRobin is the best pairing and the second best for Chrom is with Olivia. Sumia is third place.
This is worth disambiguating: Are we talking about the best mother for Lucina with respect to Lucina (in which case, I'd agree with you), or with respect to your overall Apotheosis squad (In which case, having three units capable of procstacking Aether and Luna is probably the single most important thing for qualifying for the secret difficulty run, by clearing the first map in less than five turns)

>Also even with a high skill it's up to RNG to decide whether or not the character will proc their skill. Rightful King makes it so that RNG is more in your favor.
This is just objectively wrong. Lets consider two otherwise identical Lucinas with 30 Skl; one with RK and Luna, and the other with Ae and Luna.
P(Luna|RK) = Skl+10 = 40%
P(Luna OR Aether) = 15%[Ae]+30% of 85%[Lu] = 40.5%
(1/2)

You mean you marry FRobin to someone besides Chrom?

Nice

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Ah shit negro, this guy gets it.

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I'll straregist my way right into your pants Chrom

Your friend is based.

Wrong.

Most optimal strategy involves fucking his daughter.

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She's too pure for gross shit like incest user. She deserves respect and protection from a good father figure

It's not fine you delusional fucking retard. It's a plot hole ridden mess of unexplained shit and doesn't know what it wants to do with itself
>If anything, it provides more lore to the older games by combining the concept of the Branded and those with Holy Blood
LOL.
According to Awakening literally anyone can hold weapons that are specifically tied to bloodline heritage.
According to Awakening there are time travel portals that supposedly allow access to literally any reality related to the FE series, but can't even mention the possibility of what is currently happening in another continent over despite the "progress" of 3k years.
According to Awakening a possible creator Goddess is completely irrelevant while a fucking ghost of a dragon can asspull a revival after Robin's sacrifice.
According to Awakening, despite a living dark dragon that needs hosts to survive in another continent, or the dark dragon that has actually plagued the continent repeatedly in the past which Naga AND Tiki have specific history with, there's some random dragon asshole that was 10 times more successful than both to the point of also fucking around with time travel.
Ah, and don't forget, if you go with Fates' own ties to Awakening, despite the above incidents an entire other continent with asshole dragons are "rumors".

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>marry future Lucina
>dump her for present Lucina when the former becomes old and busted
Robin truly is a genius.

>so that you can marry your sister

But you can't do that.

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He's talking about Echoes

Why would you want to marry a fish?

Imagine doing oyakodon hahahha

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What the fuck are you even talking about? Speak coherent english instead of having the start of every line be "According to awakening" for the extra LMAOWNED points.

The breakpoint is higher than I remembered, due to the way FE13 determines how procs work (They're checked in order from Lethality -> Aether -> Astra -> Sol -> Luna -> Ignis -> Vengence), but above 30 Skl, the probability that you'll activate either Luna or Aether is greater than Luna and RK. Ergo, the RNG is more in your favor with procstacking, not with RK.

>Besides that Aether is redundant on Cynthia since she can learn renewal and Luna anyway.
To an extent, you're correct. Sumia is the second best gen 1 unit after Robin, because she already has all the toys she really needs (Galeforce, Luna, Lance/Tomefaire, Limit Breaker/Filler, Filler). Cynthia with literally anyone as a father is a top tier chils unit, so it's all a question of "Who gives Cynthia the most that she's not getting from Sumia already?" If you agree with the logic from the pairings threads from Serenes Forest, what most would consider the leading authority on FE Charop, the only things Cynthia (and Morgan!) really wants are another offensive proc. Since Aether is just Luna+, and Luna is the best offensive skill for Apotheosis, and Chrom is the only father that gives Aether, Cynthia's best dad is Chrom, above even Robin.
(2/2)

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The "lore" that fucks up the original

I tried playing this game once but I dropped it because I hate how their feet like.

>This is worth disambiguating: Are we talking about the best mother for Lucina with respect to Lucina (in which case, I'd agree with you), or with respect to your overall Apotheosis squad (In which case, having three units capable of procstacking Aether and Luna is probably the single most important thing for qualifying for the secret difficulty run, by clearing the first map in less than five turns)
I was talking about both. Having characters with the best parents with five them their best key stats is the key to Apotheosis. And even then it's not as set in stone Game Faqs makes it out to be.
youtu.be/eVkUblYxsVI

>
This is just objectively wrong. Lets consider two otherwise identical Lucinas with 30 Skl; one with RK and Luna, and the other with Ae and Luna.
Yeah that's bullshit.

>threesomes with milf Lucina + loli Lucina at the same time

IMAGINE

>Missing out on Noire which then means you miss out on Severa's 2nd best support/3rd best support depending on if you're a Daddyfag or not

Now that's strategy

Could you please expand on why my simple explanation of procstacking versus RK is incorrect?

No I'm certain he's talking about fates

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Presumably this would also result in three generations of Morgan.

>Tharja and Cordelia that high
>Nowi that high
>Miriel and Kjelle at the bottom
>Your own fucking daughter at the top

I’m gonna kill you

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Ophelia's Musk!

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That's not a nice thing to call your sister.

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based

Remember about that fate dlc...

Because you're relying on Serenes and Game Faqs who have a habit of being wrong but also being too much of an echo chamber to be corrected.

Why is Kjelle so high?

I'm basing this on personal taste not in the game support

>Valm arc wasn't necessary

It wasn't good, but I appreciated the thought of actually having a mid-game so you had time to play around with specs and classes a bit instead having to beeline for certain builds if you wanted a well-rounded party before the end-game without grinding, (or in the case of most of Fates, finishing the fucking game before you even use more than a couple of master seals). Best part of these '''games''' is the beginning and middle, the endings are always bland shit.

She is stinky

m8 you know brands first appeared in Genealogy right? all awakening did was connected the branded to the holy blood brand

Kjelle a good tomboy.

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>tfw I thought she was gonna be an option to romance since I thought she was cute
>ended up being a small dragon thing
>ends up fucking dead
Dammit

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Lyon never had a chance onisama is too handsome and manly

>If you agree with the logic from the pairings threads from Serenes Forest, what most would consider the leading authority on FE Charop,
Using Serenes to form your opinions. If you wanted to prove that you didn't know that you didn't know what you were talking about you just proved it.

I mean, this is a simple argument from how the game's mathematics works. I'll admit most of the remainder of my argument is from Serenes Forest, which I've used as a resource for a few Apotheosis runs of my own, and I can understand that. However, the mathematics of RK versus Procstacking is not a matter of opinion - Once Skl > 30, Aether + Luna will proc Luna more often than RK + Luna! Unless you have some source to believe that the skill activation formulas found from SF's examination of the game's mechanics is incorrect?

Pic related. The brand of Lopt on Julius's forehead. All the characters with Major Blood have a mark, it's just not visible on most characters, Dierdre has one on her forehead covered by her circlet, which is how they were able to determine in story that she was definitely Prince Kurth's daughter.

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>Corrin can tank half the map by that point in the game
>still has to kill herself herself with no emotional impact to 'save' them

youtube.com/watch?v=qO6LWQhvzRw

At least Fates managed to have maps that werent open fields

The problem with Serenes is that a lot of their own analysis come out of their own ass rather than the game itself. That includes the math. I remember in the past they used to swear that it was impossible to get through Apotheosis with FRobin and/or a 2nd gen Morgan and they were proven wrong with video evidence. Hell the people didn't even do anything crazy to achieve it. Though that didn't stop Serenes from insisting that it was impossible even though they were wrong.

Basically, Serernes is really biased.

>Not Robin/Severa
>Not Frederick/Panne
>Not Lonk/Cordelia

Donnel/Nowi is top tier though, if only for a galeforce Nah.

>dies in Birthright
>dies in Conquest
>does nothing in Revelations
>does nothing in Heirs of Fate

Did they just forget about her or something?

underrated

Crude, brutish fighting style is a natural fit for larger-than-life personalities, which everyone loves.

you mean robin's daughter

In response to being asked for anal

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Honestly it just feels like they didn't know what to do with her character. Killing her off and not doing anything was fucking retarded when there was no purpose of doing that. Fates really didn't know what to do with it's character. Which makes me mad because fem corrin was extremely cute but wrote the protagonist to be a fucking mongoloid

>>Miriel and Kjelle at the bottom
They're fucking trash. You married a bag of trash.

I like you

Not that user, but the actual game's math doesn't lie about Aether/Luna being better than Luna + Rightful King so Serenes being biased doesn't really make a difference at the end of the day.

Also, with regards to marrying Chrom off to Olivia, you're basically wasting Chrom as a unit as well since Olivia is generally better off being left unpaired in order to perform dance utility where as Chrom wants to be paired with someone to take advantage of his excellent backrow kit.

Say'ri, Cordelia, Nowi, Noire and Olivia would definitely

people itt still using 2011 minmax guide lmao

lmao, gold star my user.

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That's a fair cop. Apotheosis isn't insurmountably difficult, especially if Rallies/DLC/Limit Breaker are permitted. There's a lot of solutions, and I'll admit that SF can be slow to acknowledge new strategies. IIRC, this also includes the very procstacking vs. RK argument we're having right now!

In any case, because I'd really like to put this one issue to rest, if the procstacking math doesn't work the way it's commonly described on SF or GameFAQs, could you please show me how it does work, so that we're on the same page? (For the purposes of the argument, I'm otherwise assuming the proc math works as described here: fireemblemwiki.org/wiki/Offensive_skill#Awakening)

>Chrom wants to be paired with someone to take advantage of his excellent backrow kit.
And there are only two 1st gen units that are Apotheosis-acceptable who can pair with Chrom, Sumia and Girl Robin. Since Girl Robin should never pair with a 1st gen, Sumia would've been the best pairing for Chrom even if her skill set and stats were not the best, which they are.

Robin/Sumia
Donnel/Lissa
Frederick/Miriel
Gregor/Cherche
Virion/Sully
Stahl/Cordelia
Vaike/Panne
Chrom/Olivia
Gaius/Maribelle
Henry/Tharja
Lonqu/Nowi

Lucina/Gerome
Cynthia/Owain
Noire/Brady
Inigo/Morgan
Kjelle/Yarne
Severa/Laurent

For my first time just going by feeling or whoever was left.

Serenes is not a single entity. Saying Serenes said this or that is just as stupid as saying Yea Forums said this or that, or Yea Forums said this or that. Basically you are really stupid.

Objective taste coming through

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These are too fun to make

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Nah, Serenes is full of faggots so it's safe to say that.

Statistically Olivia gives better children and because she can learn Galeforce she can both Dance and attack. So Chrom isn't being wasted.

Though with the amount of second and first gens that can learn Galeforce you arguably don't need her to be a dedicated dancer anyway.

The problem is that I don't trust Serenes for the games maths.

But if you marry Tharja, Morgan is also your daughter.

Are you sure you didn't flip this by accident user?

>This is just objectively wrong. Lets consider two otherwise identical Lucinas with 30 Skl; one with RK and Luna, and the other with Ae and Luna.
You wouldn't compare 2 Lucinas with 30 Skl, you compare them with ~80 Skl, at which point stacking 2 procs blows RK out the water.

Great job.

That changes nothing?

>Statistically Olivia gives better children and because she can learn Galeforce she can both Dance and attack. So Chrom isn't being wasted.
Olivia's children are worse than Sumia. They get worse skill (Astra), have worse Skl and Spd modifiers which are the most critical skills in Apotheosis Lunatic, and one of them doesn't get Aether.

It's not like SoV was the first remake. They probably just wanted another crack at making prior entries in the series more available and modernized. Shadow Dragon was fantastic.

Just like Yea Forums

>The problem is that I don't trust Serenes for the games maths.
Then what do you trust? The gut feelings of a retard (aka you)?

>because she can learn Galeforce she can both Dance and attack.
t. never played Apotheosis

>liking furries, flaties, or dumb tsunderes

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They don't have any feet. The game was a complete hackjob of bad design

No, I'm speaking from experience, Serenes is full of shit. They're echo chamber.

This guy
Is right, fucking Chrom's daughter from the future is way more optimal

Yea Forums is full of fags, not faggots

I thought Lissa was Chrom's gf for the longest time.

>Say'ri support
>ok tier
its dog shit

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It's both. Notice how this thread is a Awakening one and very active. Yea Forums has shit taste. They are faggots.

Of course I rather trust myself over a bunch of faggots online that I know are biased, and have been proven wrong.

I'm either having her dancing or attacking but most of my units have Galeforce anyway.

>mfw there is absolutely positively NO WAY to satisfactorily marry off all the units in Fates
I could do it in Awakening, barely. But it's impossible in Fates. Problem number one is that there aren't enough vaginas to go around. In Awakening they had the decency to give you a couple extra bachelors so you had some leeway in picking husbands for the moms. But in Fates that shit is strictly 1:1. And if you're playing male Corrin he has to marry either a Corrinsexual (none of whom are good matches for him) or 2nd gen (which is fucking weird) or else you won't have enough girls left over to marry all the potential dads.
Playing as female Corrin removes this problem, but you've still got precisely one spare girl as your margin for error. The problem now is that there are simply not enough good supports. Ideally we want a marriage that both feels realistic based on the support dialogue, and also generates a fitting hair color for the child. This is simply not possible to do for every couple. These fucking blue haired bitches are the worst component of this work because there are almost no kids who look good with blue hair. You either end up with kids that look fucking stupid, or soulless marriages between people with no chemistry. This could all be fixed if the game would simply let me choose to have the kid inherit the father's hair color. Instead I am doomed to an eternity of madness.

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Actually Olivia can also pass on Lethality, and vantage

>Rutger on C
>Ryoma and Shiva only on B
>Ethlyin on A
Nani!?

Ryoma is shit for everything not gameplay

Marrying Olivia is bad since Inigo is almost impossible to recruit until late and the Lucina loses out on stats due to Olivia's low bases.

I'm speaking in regards to using DLC and Spotpass.

robin so based

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What's wrong with it?

I understood your joke

>Marth now has a brand
>And his ancestors were blessed by Naga in addition to just receiving one of his/her fangs to forge Falchion
>but this changes nothing

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>Apotheosis acceptable
youtu.be/Ym4akPpAjtk
youtu.be/eVkUblYxsVI

>>Marth now has a brand
You do know Marth isn't the first exalt, right?

That's not even relevant to the conversation. Chrom is his descendant, and he passed down the brand, which is required to wield Falchion.

Are you dumb? Girls can't wield the Falchion as established by SD and the holy weapons can wielded by anyone for zero reason. They fucking killed FE1-3 more than Jugdral anyway.
>Zofia became the land of weeaboos and everyone started speaking fantasy Japanese for someone
>everything relating to FE3

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>Girls can't wield the Falchion as established by SD
That's Shadow Dragon ruining the lore, Awakening fixed it.

It's relevant because Marth DIDN'T PASS DOWN THE BRAND, that was the first exalt. A brand being requiered to wield the falchion was most likely a result of the first Awakening.

You fucking stupid, m8.

It's not you dumb Awakeningbabby. Awakening fucked Archanea beyond belief. The entire game reads like someone's failed fan fiction of Suikoden + SAO repurposed into an attempt at resembling a Fire Emblem game.

>Wasn't in the lore until Shadow Dragon came along and was the worst game in the series
>BUT AWAKENING RUINED IT

>it's-a me, merlinus
how did nintendo and king arthur not sue?

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nice

Not that user, but Marth didn't have a brand. Awakening retconned it to say that he had one to reference Jugdral.

>finished Conquest last night and actually enjoyed the ending
I'm definitely going to play through Birthright but I don't know if I'll shell out for Revelations or just youtube it
I do want to know more about this slime monster/demon Anankos

>Wasn't in the lore until Shadow Dragon came along
Yeah because SD extended it along side it's original game
>was the worst game in the series
Yes Awakening and Echoes is bad but that's not the point here
>>BUT AWAKENING RUINED IT
Yes Awakening fucked Archanea beyond belief.

Arent you more of a tactician

Hey there

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Absolute retard, lmao.

>awakeningbabby btfo
Defend the raping of FE3 right now.

What a way to out yourself as a total retard.

holy fuck, i just found my new Smash Main

You'll need to play/read Revelations then. Birthright does just as little about what you want to know.

FE3 was never good in the first place.

>thinks Shadow Dragon isn't the worst game in the series for how badly it raped FE1
>somehow I'm the retard

Just play Revelations instead. Birthright is basically just Revelations with less characters.

Oh I knew that already, but last night I played through the tutorial and up past the split in Birthright and actually found the setting and characters different enough to warrant a playthrough.

>FE3 was never good in the first place.
Nice try Awakeningcuck. You got btfo then now just say
>i-it was shit
LOL
>thinks Shadow Dragon isn't the worst game in the series for how badly it raped FE1
>somehow I'm the retard
Yeah you are. Not only that true Awakening is pure trash. Cope

Youtube revelations than. Pretty much no one enjoyed that game after all. And you'll probably hate yourself if you paid money for the story.

FE3 was shit. Javelins having 20 weight is retarded and completely fucked up how Book 1 played, and Book 2 and its silver axes can fuck off. I don't even like Awakening, lore additions aside.

fewer characters

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That's what I said, less characters.

>Javelins having 20 weight is retarded
That's a good thing. It stops the over-relevance on 1-2 range and makes archers and mages more prominent than just staff stacking
>completely fucked up how Book 1 played
Yeah can't have Hardin stand then anymore raping everything with a Javelin.
>book 2 and its silver axes can fuck off
you can't even use sliver axes
> don't even like Awakening, lore additions aside
>awakeningbabby likes failed fan fiction of Suikoden + SAO repurposed into an attempt at resembling a Fire Emblem game
>awakeningbabby likes how Zofia became the land of weeaboos and everyone started speaking fantasy Japanese
>awakeningbabby likes how there are time travel portals that supposedly allow access to literally any reality related to the FE series, but can't even mention the possibility of what is currently happening in another continent over despite the "progress" of 3k years
>b-but not a fan of a bad game. promise!!!!
LOL

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I want Sugita to marry me. Is he actually still single and desperate?

Whole lot of projection there that I've never once said.

Single, yes. Desperate, no. He just pretends so his fangirls think they have a chance.

Projection?
>lore additions aside.
You like the bad worldbuilding and the raping of the original games. Cope. And offer a real argument

Have an argument other than greentext and cope and maybe we can have a discussion.

Rate

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>Hey wake up and have my two children

How can one man be so based, and redpilled?

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I fucking miss Kozaki

I have made a list which lists the character’s best critical hit quote

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You don't seem to understand.

>I like this
>OH SO YOU LIKE THIS OTHER THING?
>no not really
>OH SO YOU LIKE THIS OTHER THING?
>not really
>OH SO YOU LIKE THIS OTHER THING?

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Zofia's queen fuck Kamui
Kamui's son kill Alm and co and take everything
This is why Walhardt is a conquerant

>miss
isn't he still working on the FE series designs?

>buzzword
You lost

Well he's doing designs for Heroes's Book III.

No, and thank god he isn't. The newest artist isn't that great but Kozaki is shit.

Are you the guy from that Chrom NTR image?

>Marrying FRobin gives Chrom control over Plegia.

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>Donnel/Nowi

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This has happened to more people than just me?

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I did. Counter the points. Oh wait you won't. Reply, doesn't matter. I already won

Nice try Awakeningfag. Literally haven't play any other games

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>I like shit thing
>why it's shit and here's why
>NOOOOO THAT DOESN'T COUNT
Kek

I don't care about fe
CHECKMATE HAHAHAHAHAHA

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What a way to out yourself as a total retard.

Dont use Ashley while shitposting faggot

"cope" is not a point.

Greentext and "it's shit" is not a point.

Chrom is notorious for unexpectedly NTR'ing MaMu's or Chroming inside FeMu's against their will who play Awakening on their first play through.

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>writing perspective
chrom literally asks a girl he just met to marry him, do keep in mind that the only way to even get them to marry is to make sure chrom doesn’t talk to or even stand near any other potential wife or you have marry off that potential wife before chapter 13, essentially meaning that chrom barely interacted with women with the exception of his sister and any other women he interacts with end up thinking of him as friend and marrying someone else (probably getting cucked by Frederick, that sexy beast) to the point where he uses his power to force an innocent dancer to marry him

Is chrom an incel?

Oh no a retard

Cynthia is Chrom's only other child who makes good royalty.
Except maybe Morgan, but you don't play as F!Robin like a queer, do you?

Saying why the "lore" is shit and objectively proving that it ruins the original games is a argument. You have yet to offer a rebuttal. Literally not an argument

My daughterwife is so cute.

>getting this btfo
LOL

Fuck you

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It doesn't, because you're counting fixing a retcon from a remake as the original game's lore. It's not.

There's no reason Elice couldn't wield Falchion. She just chooses not to. Similarly, it's fine that Lucina can wield it, and we know from her generic sibling support that her siblings can wield it. SD adding in a bullshit retcon that OH ONLY MEN CAN WIELD FALCHION is retarded.

It's a shame we can't have proper FE threads without people going full retard. The 3DS era was a pure mistake and things aren't improving.

>lol

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Don't worry, it's almost over and it's about to get even worse.

4channel was a mistake

To be fair, there is no proposal scene to Olivia in chapter 11 and there's also the 2 year timeskip. That gives Chrom plenty of time to at least get somewhat close to Olivia before popping the question and having Lucina.

It's still really fast, but not as fast as you're putting it.

>Cynthia is the only other child who makes good royalty

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Post some feet to kill the thread

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>proper FE threads

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Marth can have a brand and it not be an important plot point.
He might also have brown pubes instead of blue but it isn't relative to his story.

Severa is at her best when she's YOUR daughter.
And you fuck her.

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>The 3DS era was a pure mistake
The thread was perfectly fine, until a schizo gramps walked in though.

It's not even all that much faster than the others, since chapters 1-11 only take place over a few months at most, with the chapters immediately following Emmeryn's death all seeming like they follow each other immediately.

nice, fairly similar to mine

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You are an OP-tier faggot

Got her!

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Is this really how this all started? Wanting a fates remake over an awakening remake?

Because I'd agree. Awakening is fine as is, Fates needs more work.

>imagine being a mainline FE fan and having to minmax eugenics so you can beat or become the chaos dragon
>when you can just be a secondary fan of the musou
>where anybody can get the ideal astra, galeforce, luna, lethality, trample skill combos
>where you can become strong enough to ignore the weapon triangle entirely
>where only the top, best, most relavent characters are usable and there are no stupid shits like Lon'qu or the Fates lesbian

I still want to know why anyone expected anything but the main characters of each game to show up. It's a miracle we got Cordelia instead of Sumia.

*marries Cordelia*

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It does. It's a extension of the original games lore. It's not fine that Lucina could wield. It's a retcon that's pointless. Nice job not only ignoring not only everything but just saying a point only I brought up so you can defend Awakening raping shit.

It really doesn’t

That is one fast man

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My brother

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>55%
Ready to miss and get slammed by that crit rend heaven?

>liking boring one dimensional retards
K

If there's one thing I learned from playing the Hoshiboo route, it's that nothing ever misses Hana, regardless of what the hit chances are.

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Also, they crit.

if im a brainlet who loved fe echoes and awakening should i buy fates too?

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Play whatever you want, don't let others sway your opinions

yeah but i dont want to drop 40 bucks on another one when im okay with replaying them once in a while

FOR FUCKS SAKE, STOP ALREADY! The reason Lucina can wield the falchion and the reason women can't wield in FE3 coexist.
The rules that apply to awakening Falchion are different because Naga performed a blood pact with the First exalt just like the Crusaders did in FE4, this resulted in the Falchion now being blood locked and not men locked.

>ywn fuck Lissa and then get fucked by Chrom

Yeah, go for it.

That's not what blood pacts do but okay.

This but in reverse

if I'm a retarded awakening/fatesfag is there a chance I'll enjoy echoes?

Conquest Hana is a completely different monster. Even on hard her stats are so good that the only thing that changes to lunatic is S in sword proficiency instead of A. Rend Heaven has 42% chance of proc.

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>Even on hard her stats are so good that the only thing that changes to lunatic is S in sword proficiency instead of A.
That's most enemies in Conquest from Hard to Lunatic.

I married Sumia

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But there's no conceivable way for this to happen. Is that why she's shit?

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Make way for best unit

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Good Wife/ Cute Famry

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Pretty much.
Thank god for smutfics though

It's a shitty game. But if you wanna play it then power to you user. The music and alot of character designs was my favorite part, just wish they weren't wasted

Is FE:Fates also like this?

>Awakening is fine as is,
Yewh ignore the bad story and gameplay and it really is.

No Conquest is actually good, well for FE standards. Awakening is just bad all around

I gave her to Donnel. Something about a poor kid getting to fuck rich pussy just gets me going.

im having fun replaying awakening and none of you can make me feel bad about it

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You will always be a shit eating retard

I don't marry any of my characters.

im still having fun bro

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>Font and background colour for Kellam
Based
I would say I bid you farewell is probably Cherche's worst one though.

I lost where my copy is but after I finish RD I'm going to play that, 4, 5, or 6 again

Based and imoutopilled

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Why does Sakura look so much older than Elise even though they're supposedly the same age?

>is chrom an incel?
kek

Elise's retarded hair inadvertently makes her look younger

I mean that Chrom and Olivia could be seen as a political marriage. Chrom and FRobin was just Chrom being thirsty.

Actually it does. FRobin is the daughter of the King Regnant of Plegia making her the crown princess and therefore also puts Lucina in line for the throne. So, even in the ending where FRobin temporarily disappears Lucina is the only living heir to the Plegian throne. Making Chrom, FRobin's husband and Lucina's father the King Regent of Plegia.

That's some Eliwood tier keikaku.

You expected Sumia?

>Sends me and my right hand man out into the battlefield while he and my sister hang out in the background
>Gets married to her like a week later
Robin was a good friend

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I love Tharja and Noire as my Daughter.

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>liking boring one dimensional retards
I put Severa and Sayri at the bottom though

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Yeah for real. Noire is the cherry on top the tharja milkshake

Which is why the Chroms that marry FRobin are the true tacticians.

Top tier taste except for changing lucina and tiki.

Yes. I just want to protect noire from her mum by fucking Tharja's brains out.
I also find the supports cute.

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>Stahl a husbando
Literally the most boring character in the game.
Gregor, Brady, Lonk, and even Kellam would be better choices

>If Noire is unmarried she becomes Tharja's assistant/glorified servant to save young Noire.
Strange how that would play out

>Wanting a shitty mother for your children

Stop strategizing with your dick.

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Kozaki must really hate drawing necks between these two, and the toilet bowl cavs

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Are they? I thought Sakura was like 2-3 years older

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Based

I always thought the royals were all supposed to be the same age as their counter-parts.

Stahl is just a nice, kind and thoughtful guy. He doesn't have to be anything else.

I like to think MRobin marrying Tharja just means that the two bond. Or maybe Noire just becomes a babysitter for baby Noire and both morgans.

Marrying her yourself is to ensure she becomes a good parent.

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go on, tell me how shit my taste is, i dont care

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For the males that seem to be the case but I feel like Sakura is meant to be a few years older than Elise while Camilla is a few years older than Hinoka

>Marrying her yourself is to ensure she becomes a good parent.

It didn't work the first time.

>tfw FE threads have to be made on Yea Forums because Heroes killed /feg/

a man of taste, I see

It happens, nothing to be done about it.

What's weird is Heroes is all /feg/ talks about but Yea Forums has way more general FE threads now, but the Heroes threads on Yea Forums are all but dead now and rarely ever hit bump limit anymore. Strange

Thank god, Yea Forums is also generally more helpful with actual gameplay question than /feg/, I hate going there to ask a question only to be ignored because everyone is a fucking secondary.

And everyone also fucking died the first time. Things can change in the new timeline.

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I finished Birthright Lunatic today. I'm going to start Conquest Lunatic now.

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Why is Archanea filled with so many storylines of failed/unrequited romances?
>Catria
>Palla/Est and Cain
>Nyna and Camus
>Hardin and Nyna
and there's probably a few more I'm forgetting

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she's too precious how could you even think

No one fucks my sister but me.

>sister

lmao

I want Elise to cutely bully my dick

You are going to buy her game, right Yea Forums?

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Yeah, can't wait to pound her.

Does this game come out this year? I'm worried if so, the recent gameplay and graphics so far look super unpolished

only if she sits on my face

How can I marry the dragon if she's in my head?

>Husbandos
>Male!Morgan and Chrom

Based.

>Female!Morgan, Tharja
>Best girls

Not based

Considering we already had Frederick and Lissa revealed, yes. Sumia is marginally more plot relevant than Cordelia (in that she actually appears in a cutscene) and is considered to be the canon pairing for Chrom because she has the most priority if he has no supports with any other viable female characters.

I didn't WANT her, I EXPECTED her. Her and maybe Vaike since he could be a rather easy rework of Lissa, In the same way I expected Fates to have all nine of the Royals playable and fuck all else.

fuck you guys made me want to play Awakening again

Which girl should be my wife this run?

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nice work user

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I've been burned twice by nu-FE now, Yea Forums. How shit is Three Houses going to be? I just can't be excited for it after how embarrassingly shit Fates was.

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Yes, it comes out on Juy 26

Good don't be excited, that way you won't have high expectations. At the very least it's looking less weeby than fates.

Three Houses isn't even a Fire Emblem game. It's a generic strategy RPG with the brand attached.

Play as FemRobin instead

It comes out July, but the animations are being done in part by Koei so even if it wasn't being realeased by 2025 the models would still look like shit

Hyrule Warriors roster had all kinds of curve balls like Agitha, and Darunia.

Follow u're heart. Is there any A support you like, but haven't married yet?

Get Chrom'd

Just started again with my male Robin

which one will give me headpats and lap pillow?

>Hyrule Warriors roster had all kinds of curve balls like Agitha, and Darunia.
Because each Zelda game has less relevant characters that aren't Link and Zelda, and those aren't even included because you have the generic HW versions of them, giving more room for off the wall characters. It'd be like expecting a Link's Awakening story but getting no Marin, or an OoT story with no Sheik.

You can't do Awakening without Chrom, Robin and Lucina at the very minimum; you can't do Fates without Corrin and the Royals, and not including Azura was retarded because Corrin/Ryoma/Xander just magically waking up was absolutely retarded; and you can't do a Shadow Dragon plot without Marth, Tiki and Caeda. And that's most of your fucking roster right there.

Aversa, Tiki, or Maribelle would be the most likely I would guess.