So what's the state of SSBU leaks now that we know the second DLC pack will be an FE rep?

It won’t be a FE character
Just like they won’t add Sylux

Well, three houses has 0 reps so far, just have to twist the logic a bit to make it work.

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"These are going to be characters that are new to the series, just like Joker from Persona 5. Characters that you would not anticipate to be in Super Smash Bros. Ultimate."

I will fucking riot if these dirty gooks think it’s okay to put in another fucking androgynous anime sword faggot. Two nukes wasn’t enough.

so this predicted joker?

>it's not a FE villain

Two nukes was not enough

>Brave/Yuushaa means Hero
>Alm's promoted class is called Hero
Alm is our next DLC fighter

If it’s Edelgard, I’m not sure if I should be relieved because it’s not Byleth or pissed because she’ll almost definitely use a sword besides maybe a token axe move or two.

yeah by at least 2 weeks, and so far theres no real reason to doubt it other than the fact that edelgard is predictable and sucks

A FE spear/axe use would be new to the series and characters that you would not anticipate to be in Super Smash Bros.

>characters you would not anticipate
>”FE is assuredly in!”

if this predicted joker why wasn't more hype built around this leak? this seems like it could've been the real deal thee whole time.

>Edelgard
They won't put in a side character, if Three Houses gets a character it's gonna be Byleth.

It was mentioned more than a few times, it's just that Metroid Prime 4 restarting development kind of puts this up in the air.

no clue. its worth noting that sakurai tweeted out that dlc was finalized on the 6th of november.

Morgan time

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I swear to god, this had better be a coincidence. You just know that if another FE character gets in, the whole defense squad would shitpost in spades about how Edelgard/Byleth is, in fact, not a shill pick.

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i don't even own a switch

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>vergeben fucking blown the fuck out AGAIN.

why are the japanese like this

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if Brave is really gonja be a FE character, i really hope its a character from FE heroes, possibly shareena.

>Heroes got recognition in smash with a remix of one song from the game.
>the original codename for Heroes was 'Fire Emblem Brave' at least according to the very first datamining when the game came out 2 years ago.
>Shareena is NOT a sword user, shes a lancer.

if we are gonna rehash shit, then AT LEAST let it be a different kind of shit, thats what im saying.

Salty grinchfag, kys

my theory is that it could be the owl and she summons fire emblem fan favorites for her moves

If no one expects FE because it's over represented it'd still be unexpected.

Can we put the FE characters in their own game so they can stop cluttering up Smash?

I haven't bought it but I'm still gonna have to buy this shit anyways because I'm a retarded completionist.

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Based. Fuck FE

They still can. It's possible to wait until the end of the year to drop info about MP4 and then reveal Sylux.
A lot of people love to take Reggie's word literally when all it was all just safe PR talk to hype up the Pass. Even if they are to be taken more seriously, people assume franchises not in smash when it was characters that is the focus.

Didn't believe the grinch
I just love watching that smug faggot getting taken down like, 60 notches.
Steve's never getting in Smash, you fucking stevefag.

NO.
DELETE THIS.

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Smash Bros is shit.

Both mainstream and no mainstream Smash fanbase hate FE characters, and Sakurai saying is strategic picks just show a hard shill

It would be retarded for nintendo to make another FE characters,it would be more bad than good, hell Corrin is pretty much the most hated Smash character

>Shareena
She's probably the least likely Heroes OC who could potentially get in.

This

Neku and banjo are one of the few that would make up for another fucking fire emblem character.

just add my boy geno already

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Oh hey! A Seethe'n Steven.

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edelgard only deserves a jpeg and you know it

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All the girls in that image make my dick hard

kek

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>it's a FE character at all

>VERGEBEN FUCKING BLOWN THE FUCK OUT AGAIN

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Am I missing something? Why do you suddenly think the next character has to be FE related? Just because the FE Expo is close by? Wouldn't that make it more unlikely. We probably will get a tease for the next character alongside Joker's reveal or some time later. It makes no sense to do it separately, a few days after Joker's release.

Corrin is already the spear character based on Sakurai's interviews, and an axe doesn't really seems like something that would be different from a sword gameplay-wise, so I doubt it'd interest Sakurai much.

Byleth with the whipsword really seems like it'd be the most likely addition if we were getting another FE character.

This, we're fucking tired of more FE

It doesn't inherently mean a smash announcement. I'll wait for a confirmation before freaking out.

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What's the source on any of this
>m
Kill yourself mobile cancer

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The leak also mentioned Chrono and that would be Kino as fuck. If anything Edelguard uses an axe which would be cool to see. Axes are sweet.

How did anyone NOT expect a FE rep from three houses to release second, which would be right around the time Three Houses releases? It's so obvious that you didn't even need a leak to tell you that one.

I really hope we get a proper ass Fire Emblem fighter out of this. Hopefully 3D since 2D and arena are pretty crowded already .

thats the problem, atlus withheld the direct because Joker is a news tangentially related to persona 5, and theres gonna be a p5 concert in april 25th, joker is going to be announced there.

theres not gonna be a direct, and since the fe expo is right after the p5 concert, its obvious to guess the dlc 2 might be a fe character.

How fucking dumb are you faggots that you will continue to believe any sort of leak without video evidence of in-game footage?

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Neku would have a way better move set than him, but either pick would make me happy. And oh shit I didn't know he was an axe user. That changes everything; axes are dope.

>wait 4+ months to reveal gameplay for a character whose game likely won't even be on a Nintendo console
>immediately chase it with an 8th FE character

This would be more impressive than aggravating at this point

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this is not a leak (thank god.) this is a logical guess based on situation.

if theres no direct news this next week, then its more than confirmed that A: joker will be revealed on the p5 concert, and B: brave is a FE character.

Screw Medieval Teacher Nube. We foreheads now.

>Thing is confirmed with no actual confirmation.
This isn't how it works, you stupid fuck.

You CAN'T get refund on Nintendo since when you buy shit you are accepting terms and conditions, including your acceptance about losing any possibility of a refund :^)
THE NINTENDO DIFFERENCE

>this is a logical guess based on situation.
Yeah if you mean based on completel stupidity

>and since the fe expo is right after the p5 concert
You mean almost two weeks later. And the FE's expo date likely has more to do with FE marketing itself. Aside from the two trailers they've started making Three Houses reveals at all. It probably will start by the expo and then go on until launch.

No.

Concert Theory looks more and more true for Joker's release and 3.0.0 details. If that's the case, there's no way Atlus would want to let another character steal any thunder from their festival of "P5 sold more than OK so we're celebrating it as if it's the next FF7".

The next opportunity would be the FE Expo which is less than two weeks after the concert.

its Logic! in this case we dont need confirmation.

>theres a fe expo event in may 5th.
>the very first big fan convention sponsored by nintendo.
>as the very first one, something big has to be done for it.

tell me, wht could be bigger to wrap the very first fan fe convention sponsored by nintendo than a new smash fe character?

>pic
that isn't how you btfo out refusteves, this is how

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The most accurate or real leaks are always the ones that come in and leave quietly. Like piranha plant was just a guy posting a Nam Wojack a couple of times. I suspect actual leaks come from some inbetween marketing people since they always spring up when some marketing push or info is gonna drop. The Grinch one kind of knew that so it went with a realistic angle of attack but it was almost too on the nose to be real.

But is it really worth it when we're getting such a safe, boring rep?
I'd unironically take Steve over another goddamn FE character

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I hope if and when the hypothetical FE rep gets revealed, there is lots of booing and lots of dislikes on the trailer

That's rather tenuous logic considering there's an entire new game they've yet to really advertise.

steve is really not bad of a character when you actually think about it.

minecraft did earned its status as a big game and its the true digital equivalent of legos, i dont think hytale will ever take that from minecraft.

the problem is those leakfags and steveshitters that pop out daily.

>as the very first one, something big has to be done for it.
Who decided this?

Are you really this deluded?

They're announcing it at a fucking FE fan event, it's not gonna get booing.

Nintendo will probably disable likes on the trailer.

>Vergeben said Square would be first DLC
>Atlus did it first
>IT'LL BE THE NEXT DLC
>it's fucking Fire Emblem

Didn't stop Roy.

Or Corrin everywhere in the world but Japan.

>"A generic anime boy with a sword would make up for them adding a generic anime boy with a sword!"

people already knew about 3 houses like 2 years ago, that is not as important as smash.

nintendo, who else, you really think they wont think that a new smash fe character wont increase sales?

The shill pick for this DLC should be from Astral Chain desu

>October 2018
>Direct near Halloween
>Warioware Gold just released
>Ashley Assist Trophy missing
She’s in guys!

People don't want Steve mostly because of the "fan base", I.E. kids, not stevefags.
Even though Smash is a kid's party game but whatever

Or, you know, they'd want to advertise their own games there. The point would be to advertise Heroes and Three Houses, not a separate franchise.

Something like popular guest characters from past FEs in Three Houses could easily be used as hype announcement for the event, and to make people more interested in Three Houses.

>all these dummies think Banjo should get in from Rare properties
>when these guys would make the best addition

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>nintendo, who else, you really think they wont think that a new smash fe character wont increase sales?
Why do you keep making up imaginary rules in your head and using it as justification for things?
Again, why are you so fucking stupid.

Chrono or Neku*
In any case it would absolutely slaughter any insiders who fell for the erdrick meme

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My fucking NIGGA. Battletoads would be the absolute best fit in a smash game. Imagine Smash attacks that change properties on full charges.
>Side Smash is just a regular donkey Kick.
>If fully charged, the range increases and changes into the spike boot.
Seriously, so much great shit could happen with battle toads.

The difference is that Sakurai gives zero shits about Wario or any of his games. They only JUST now added his shoulder bash but he's still ultimately a "brap haha" Mario clone.

We still don't have that much information on Three Houses in spite of those 2 years, and an entire game in a series an entire fan convention is dedicated to doesn't seem less important than a roster pick for an unrelated fighting game. This doesn't mean that a new FE rep won't be in Smash at some point - there undoubtedly will be - but quit jumping to conclusions that every Nintendo-related event must be related to Smash.

They ain't gonna handle the "dislikes" on social media

look, i dont want a FE character any more than any of you do, ok?

however as things stand right now, this is the only logical outcome, if theres no direct next week due to the p5 concert, then dlc2 will be a fe character, and will be revealed in the big fe fan event.

Nintendo is not going to push fucking Sylux.

Then a class action in the US and a hefty fine or ban in the EU because a private conpanies contract doesn’t supercede the actual laws of the land.

Imagine being this fucking delusional

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Sakurai wanted Banjo in since Melee, man.

Why do Smashfags think any event for any kind of video game means there's going to be some kind of Smash Bros. announcement? You are aware that other video games exist outside of Smash, right? Fire Emblem isn't just a name for those anime swordsmen you don't like.

How would you rebuild the Smash FE cast if you could?

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Honestly I'm surprised even Dark Samus got in. She's a better rep for the Prime series as a whole anyways.

>the very first big fan convention sponsored by nintendo.
It's sponsored by IS though.

intsys.co.jp/works/FEexpo/

Note the copyright on the bottom of the official page for the event. It doesn't even list Nintendo like most official FE products do.

In fact, I guess this makes it much more unlikely we'll get anything Smash related at all since then Nintendo would need to be involved too.

DLC 2 also could be revealed just right before release. They did it with Ryu in the last game. Or we could get a tease after the full Joker reveal or 3.0 video.

Why do you keep making things up in your head?
What's wrong with you?

> Sylux
If that leak is real, then Sylux was probably intended to be as much of a promotional pick as Edelgard before MP4 got delayed. Even with the delay, they might've been unable to change it and even then what harm would there be in adding Sylux?

Also based Banjo & Kazooie

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>Literally any Nintendo event exists

>IIIIIIIIIIS IIIIIIIIIT SMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASH

Can you guys shut the fuck up, not every single fucking thing Nintendo announces is smash related

You fucking braindead children literally did the same shitposting at the last direct when we got fucking nothing

I'm going to be in Tokyo on the 4th of May.
Is this thing open to the public?

>Sakurai/Nintendo revealing anything at random events

They aren’t going to reveal joker without the rest of smash bros 3.0

Stop being retarded

>7
Can anyone stop him?

dlc2 wont be teased in the freaking persona 5 concert. if theres no direct next week, theres not gonna be a direct this month!

VERO SUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUURGE!!!!!

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Keep Marth mostly the same, but make his specials briefly call other units for attacks in order to reference the game's battlefield commander aspect.

Counter could be a Doga Summon, Third jump could briefly Summon Caeda on a Pegasus with Marth holding onto her, etc.

And use that a basis for revamping the other characters too. I Robin would need a few normals changed to use his book more though if his specials were replaced by summons.

Anyway, Lucina could stay as a Marth costume swap like originally intended and Chrom would be part of Robin's moveset, no need for him as a another clone.

Sakurai never said that he wanted Banjo. All he said was that including a character from Rare would be unlikely due to legal reasons.

It doesn't need to be in the concert itself, just news around the same time. We're probably getting some kind of 3.0 video too and it probably could be there.

Why are you assuming Joker in Smash will even be part of the concert right now?

Why do people think Joker will be at that the P5 concert too?
Why do people think Joker is being held back by Atlus?
It's probably much more likely that Joker had a later or longer development time ala Mewtwo. Especially since Piranha plant almost certainly was made before Joker.

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Nah. He's in. We're going to win after all these years.

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why do you think there wasnt a direct this week?

Atlus have ALWAYS been a bunch of egocentric assholes, they are forcing nintendo to withhold any news related to their cashcow persona 5, why? because they want to release the news themselves to earn more fame.

the only way this theory is not true is if theres a direct Next week only.

sylux wouldnt even be that bad of a fighter. theres very little we know about him so they could do pretty much whatever they want.

his actual canon weapons are a continuous laser beam weapon and electric trip wires in place of the morph ball bombs

You needed to buy a ticket, but looking at the website, it seems like they sold out a long time ago.

>Why do people think Joker is being held back by Atlus?
Joker is supposed to come out this month, and yet we still don't even have a video showcase, which suggests pretty strongly that there's a marketing deal holding him off from being shown.

He doesn't need to be shown in that even itself though, yeah.

Becayse atlus are known for being control freaks to the point where cross tag has the original p4a characters (instead of p4a ultimax) because of atlus meddling
Delaying smash to fuel their p5r/p5s train doesn't sound that wierd for them

Oh too bad. Thanks for checking though.

while true that joker as a character is more complex than piranha plant...

>3 months should be enough time to have the character in a presentable state.
>official joker renders have been made, they wouldnt made those if the character wasnt finished.
>sakurai promised a feb2020 deadline for all 5 characters, and right now 5 months later, we only inow about 1 of those 5.

Memes aside, I really don't see Sakurai putting in another FE rep. Corrin got backlash when he was first announced and Sakurai himself even acknowledged that FE was overrepresented.

Chrom got in because he's just a copy of Roy without the hilt sweetspot and with Ike's up B, so no real problem there. But one of the five Fighter Pass characters being a new FE rep would cause a shitstorm of the century.

Reminder the very first thing Sakurai said when announcing the season was saying only buy it if you're really sure you think it's a good value.

The very second thing he said was Nintendo decided all the characters, not him.

>Nintendo can't make a direct because of Atlus
>Even though assuming they don't already have the right to reveal Joker at any point (which they most likely do) they could just not have him in it
Flawless logic.
You're really retarded if you think Atlus can just delay a direct for a company they aren't affiliated to at all.

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>The very second thing he said was Nintendo decided all the characters, not him.

He still had the final say.

Reminder that every single newcomer in SSB4 and Ultimate were revealed in a Nintendo Direct or at E3. The only times this wasn't the case were with Robin and Joker. It's extremely unlikely that they'll reveal a character at FEexpo.

Jesus, just fucking make a separate game called Super Fire Emblem Brothers.

joker and the 3.0 update are together, they cant reveal one without the other.

and that cant be done without a direct.

and a direct cant be done if atlus are being a bunch of phantom primadonnas.

>he will never get in
>A shill pick will forever take up his role, despite having next to no fan backing
Bros...

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The point is he introduced this thing and immediately went about playing it down and deflecting blame.

>every single newcomer except for these exceptions
Not a good argument, even if the chance of a FEexpo reveal is small.

Pac Man was not revealed in a direct.

And I'm saying even if Nintendo put a new FE rep on their list of characters for Sakurai to use, he could still turn it down and use someone else they suggested.

Who?

That was because of the Smash Ballot more than anything else, I thought.

Sakurai is working on multiple characters at the same time. He also said that Joker was nowhere near presentable is December. What the hell did you retards expect?

I do think that Joker will be revealed/released at the concert, but you're a fucking retard if you think that a comparatively small company like Atlus could have a giant like Nintendo by the balls.

This is a favor by Nintendo, not a force of hand.

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no, he was revealed at e3, a semi private event, but still at e3.

I'm still pretty sure Nintendo has the right to release gameplay of a character that's playable in a game they own, regardless of if it's owned by a third party or not. And I'm almost positive that Atlus cannot reveal anything Nintendo related without Nintendo explicitly there, regardless if they own the character.

> Pac-Man at some presentation or whatever
> Duck Hunt and Bowser Jr. trailers didn't come until after the 3DS version came out and people had unlocked them
> Joker at TGA

This would fall in line with Nintendo wanting to reach more audiences to get them to play Smash. I agree with you completely.

except the charater IS finished and ready, if the best buy renders shown 2 weeks ago are anything to go by.

Veronica bros, RISE UP!

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>He still had the final say.
No he didn't. Sakurai could only deny characters if he didn't think he could make them into fighters. And Sakurai can create unique movesets out of anyone, so Sakurai was likely forced to accept Nintendo's initial five fighter selection.

That was fucking bullshit. Sakurai decided to make his shitty character the “big reveal” instead of ending E3 with mother fucking Pac Man in Smash.

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People who think that Atlus is forcing Nintendo to do anything are retarded. The P5 designer loves Smash Bros too, so there's even less of a reason for Atlus to do this shit.

Considering that renders made on Blender aren't really synonymous with actual gameplay models, interactions, and rigging, they're probably not anything to go by.

There's nothing saying that the render means it's finished. The "render" of Mewtwo was also shown off months after his release.

>could have dropped duck-dog in the E3 presentation
>and pac-man at the invitational with a live audience

>shows his special girl at E3 and pac-man to like 10 journalists behind closed doors

hmm

The idea that Nintendo told the long-time Director of one of their biggest series who to put in with absolutely no input or decision-making on his part besides whether he could make them fighters or not sounds absurd.

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yeah, it could have been the ultimate moment if at the end of that e3 tournament pacman was not only being revealed, but also, the winner would have benn given the chance to give it a test drive.

sakurai did drop the ball a little there.

Palutena's gimmick was kinda tied with Mii's.

>his shitty character
Who?

I'm still pissed about that. Why end the E3 presentation with fucking Palutena instead of Pac-Man?

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>all this time people thought Brave was a DQ reference
>it was actually a FEH reference

he justifiably lied to get people to stop asking for goku on his twitter

he chose the cast and then ran it by Nintendo for the final approval, like always

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They're already in Killer Instinct.

>Brave is brave Veronica the brave princess
based

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Or an Echoes reference.

Nintendo still hasn't calmed down? Where the models at?

I mean, yeah, that's what I always figured.

Joker and (presumably) Erdrick both feel like characters Sakurai himself chose, especially the former since it seems like his game isn't even coming to Switch.

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I honestly had the same thought a while ago. Keep Marth and Ike in the roster, but the rest can go in their own spinoff. Maybe in the style of Bushido Blade or something.

I would gladly accept Edelgard if it meant my boy was in.

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I was hoping Smashfags would shut up once their party game released,guess you like being angry on the internet at a series "wasting slots" rather than playing the game you seemingly obsess over.
Maybe,just maybe the FE expo (which is totally funded and managed by IS themselves,Nintendo have nothing to do with it) is about fucking FE and its upcoming game,not everything revolves around Smash.

It doesn't sound absurd at all. Nintendo is the one paying Sakurai.

>Sword users everywhere
>And then there's Micaiah
Just fucking kill me already.
End my suffering.

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this. I can't believe people on Yea Forums are this retarded

Sakurai praised P5's menu design and it's probably why Ultimate's menus are actually decent.

There's no reason to doubt Sakurai's words at all. Especially when he outright said that Nintendo made the selection. Sakurai is rather honest.

If you bought the Fighter Pass without knowing any of the content, it's all your fault.

It’s not going to be Edelgard you fucking retards, it wouldn’t make sense to represent THREE houses with ONE of the house leaders. It’s the same problem Hector and Lyn have, they’re all secondary “lords” and not actually the MC.

i think a traditional 2d fightan could work for fire emblem as lons as they use AT LEAST all the different character styles, regardless of the game.

cavaliers, lords, mages, pegasus riders, manaketes, you can do A LOT with such big selection of styles. the reason fe is so hated among smash fans is not because its anime, its because despite the enormous variety of charafters, we only got lords (and 1 tactician)

>If any Heroes character got in it would be Alfonse.

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>REEE STOP TALKING ABOUT VIDEO GAMES ON THE VIDEO GAME BOARD Yea Forums IS FOR /POL/ AND WAIFU THREADS ONLY
By your logic no games can be talked about after release.

>Sakurai is rather honest.
He's wishy-washy at best.

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Joker and Erdrick are both characters that Nintendo would pick. Especially since it's very likely that Persona 5 is coming to Switch. And Nintendo has been doing a lot of shit with Dragon Quest on the Switch.

>Eirika over Ephraim
>Lyn over Hector

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I’m glad that I didn’t buy that shit.

Are you ESL? He never said that.

Sakurai is honest retards just misconstrue his words because they REALLY want some character in.

>Especially since it's very likely that Persona 5 is coming to Switch.
Shhh user don't let the Snoys hear you say that!

No, he's not. Do you think he's wishy-washy because he said Ridley was too big years ago and then changed his mind recently due to the quantifiable fan demand from the ballot?

The next DLC character is Erdrick, go away refusteves, chrononiggers, fireshitters and banjocucks. Your time's up.

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we dont know if p5 is coming to switch, while yes, the smash joker render also came with a p5switch tag, doesnt mean that p5 will be on the switch.

for all we know that might have been a fake leak.

p5s, as far as we all know, might be a stage show, since thats something atlus has done with all their persona games since 3

If it's Anna, all is well.

>this thread again
>every single year for this annual event
Whatever, just a cleverly disguised discussion thread

He said Villager wouldn't have a move set and that 4 wouldn't have paid DLC. He's also said multiple times that THIS game is his last game only to direct the next game anyways, not to mention Bayonetta blatantly cheating the ballot.

Based.

My problem with Steve is he isn't a character, he's just a skin. It would be like adding a default skin from Fortnite. Minecraft deserves representation but probably just as a stage or something

Same

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sakurai is one of the most honest and humble people in the industry right now are you a crazy person? hes always very transparent people just like to pick apart everything he says or any time he posts about a game because they think hes doing research for smash.

>Erdrick

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>Says Ridley won't get in for multiple reasons
>Put him in anyways
>Not wishy-washy

t. didn't play Dragon Quest

He never said 4 wouldn't have paid DLC. He said that he wouldn't add Villager in Brawl but then in 4 that he changed his mind.
>not to mention Bayonetta blatantly cheating the ballot.
Considering that he outright said that Simon placed really high on the ballot, I'm inclined to believe that Bayonetta placed high on the ballot too.

>2ch leak called him Erdrick instead of Roto/Loto
It was fake.

Cope erdrickfag
Your time is about to run out

i already got my money's worth

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steve is supposed to be (you).

it would be nice, assuming steve gets in, that you get the ability to use the minecraft skins you buy, or even better, that it lets you kake your own skin.

I If Anna actually gets in I hope they go full happy merchant with poses and taunts

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That's not wishy-washy. That's being stubborn for nearly a decade but then having a change of heart after seeing the fan demand. Changing your opinion over a period of time is not wishy washy, especially after seeing convincing evidence.

user nobody plays Dragon Quest and likes it.

This shit again? Learn how to read, retard.

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he said that melee/brawl/4 would be his last game because he thought they would be. brawl was announced by iwata publicly before he even knew he was making it

I want to play as him so bad already.

I played Dragon Quest and liked it

>p5s, as far as we all know, might be a stage show
there's no real evidence for it being a stage show

Can you imagine how unique the series's mascot would be beside not being another sword user?

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Why would they mention Erdrick at all you think cunt?

Imagine actually doubting the guy who leaked Cloud for Smash Bros. 4, and who once again confirmed the source saying Erdrick would join Smash Ultimate is in fact the exact same guy who called the most improbable character of all times.
Keep dreaming with your Western or Waifu shit, let grown men enjoy truly soulful characters.

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Whoever gets announced, at least there's a high chance at a quick turnover.

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Why not?

you are right, theres no evidence, but there is precedent.

again, as i said, we dont know yet.

>FE expo to promote cipher heroes and whatever the fuck they have there.
>REEEE smash

You retards have issues.

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Because the japs dont give a fuck about the localised name.

Can you imagine all the disappointment and fake reactions of folk mistaking him for kid Goku?

I’d like it if they did but Square would never let it happen.
Hopefully we get the costume back though.

The post says:
"Erdrick (Loto's name in the West)"
It's strange, but he didn't forget to put the Japanese name.

This.

He didn't add villager because he thought he wouldn't fit smash and did it anyways. And he explicitly said Bayo "won" despite that not being true at all.
Taking Sakurai's word as 100% genuine is never a good idea because he always changes his mind.

>every single Nintendo-related event will have a smash announcement
Don't hold your breath, rosterfags.

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They do if they were told the localized name, retard.

Remember when an FE character's inclusion (and Falcon) was loved for blowing out a leak? Crazy how things have changed.

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I guess Japan is nobody then?

Used goods.

what the fuck do you mean nigger? erdrick is basically confirmed

I'm aware and can read it.
I don't think a 2ch poster would acknowledge the name Erdrick at all. I believe that it's fake.

>And he explicitly said Bayo "won" despite that not being true at all.
SAKURAI IS LYING REEEEEEEEEE
Admit that Bayonetta was more popular than K. Rool and Banjo and move on.

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There doesn't need to be one every time, but right now some news is overdue.

saw it mentioned back but the guest list is gonna be characters from big, recent 3rd party titles that won't get a full Switch appearance. Namely ones people made a lot of noise when the console was released

smash x persona 5
smash x the witcher 3
smash x overwatch
smash x nier automata
smash x DMC5

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DLC #2 will be some random character that nobody on Yea Forums was speculating about, and then you'll all forget until the cycle repeats itself.

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Why are people so desperate to think this has anything to do with Smash? Is it literally just shitposting?

Thanks for correcting me. Nobody plays it outside of Japan and likes it.

Crono is one of the most unlikely picks. I just assume any leak with him is as fake as it gets.

I liked Bayonetta's inclusion and seeing so many people froth at the mouth in rage was great but we know for a fact that she was still rigged.

>He didn't add villager because he thought he wouldn't fit smash and did it anyways.
He did it after Brawl. He said that he wouldn't add Villager during Brawl and he didn't. And after Brawl, he realized he was wrong and added Villager. What's wishy-washy about this?
>And he explicitly said Bayo "won" despite that not being true at all.
You have no evidence for this claim. You can't even rely on bullshit fan ballots because those polls don't have Simon even though we know Simon placed high too. Just accept it.
>Taking Sakurai's word as 100% genuine is never a good idea because he always changes his mind.
Sakurai is allowed to change his mind of things. Like Villager's moveset or Ridley's size. But he's not going to change his mind on the fact that it was Nintendo that selected the characters.

Dante/DMC was already deconfirmed bitch nigga

nintendolife.com/news/2019/02/devil_may_cry_boss_addresses_dante_smash_ultimate_demand_says_series_should_be_on_switch_first

>following a eceleb leaker
Have fun when he turns out to be full of shit, just like all the previous """insiders"""

Yes and because.

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The event is after Joker releases, and there's no way we don't get a Smash direct by the end of this month with final details on Joker and a tease of the next character. FE Expo has nothing to do with Smash.

>we know for a fact that she was still rigged.
I don't think you know how facts function, because there literally is no proof that the ballot was rigged.

You don't think a person who claimed he got a foreign source would use a foreign name? Don't be a retard.

>All my top picks are literal whos
>one of my literal whos gets in
MONSTER HUNTER OR SOPHIA III PLEASE

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I agree with that BUT
>twitter meme

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they picked bayo only two weeks into the ballot, who knows how many votes other characters got after it was officially finished

But it has to do with FE
And so does a FE character getting into smash

nice conspiracy theory

No Nintendo credited on the official page for the event though, only IS. You'd think if they were using it as a launchpad for Smash Nintendo would be involved.

>nier automata

I wish.

Tick tock smashfags, your new indie rep is coming soon.

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sourcegaming.info/2018/07/03/bayo106/

Except from yknow
Her slot getting added in while the ballot was still going
sourcegaming.info/2018/07/03/bayo106/

Im just curious if everything will be third parties or if they'll sandwich some Nintendo IP characters in there.

Especially if there's any plans to do a second season with how many records Ultimate broke it feels weird that they'd toss out all the big names at once

>Developers adding a placeholder since they know they're going to add in a new character
>This means the ballot is rigged
???

We're obviously not getting B/C/D list Nintendo characters like Porky or Adeleine.

Honestly the only first party character that I can see happening at this point is a promotional Gen 8 Pokemon.

Crono would be one of my most wanted but I fear he would be boring, and/or have lots of restrictions like Cloud. Bummer.

They were going to add DLC characters, so they added a few placeholders, that's not a proof Bayonetta was forced in.
Or are you guys part of the people who believe we will get 30 characters as DLC for Ultimate?

Shit-Pick Erdrick
Cope and Seethe with Minecraft Steve.

I really want it to be Edelgard just to see Yea Forums seethe like crazy

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>witcher 3
Would be cool, but isn't it based on a book series?

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Why did so many people think the ballot could be "won"? They were pretty clear on it being a suggestion box.

This isn't a matter of being smart enough, it's a matter of not being dumb enough.

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It's pretty damning evidence user
The fact that they started working on her not even two weeks in the ballot clearly shows they were saving the ballot winners for Ultimate

>bayonetta actually won the ballot!

Yes, a character almost nobody asked for won a popularity contest where the obvious winners were selected in the next game.

Why the fuck would they have the placeholder name be an existing characters name that also isn't already in the game? Especially a character that isn't even fully first party?

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>placeholder data
>damning evidence
How? There's no evidence that she was worked on early either. Nothing in the files shows it. It's just placeholder data.

But user
IS is literally part of nintendo

yeah i mean Game-Witcher is so divorced from Book-Witcher that I think you can consider them different enough. I really doubt the masses are gonna get mad if a character from one of the most critically-commercially succesful games of all time gets in Smash because he technically debuted in a book

well anyways here's the bizarre wholesaler listing from December say Witcher 3 Switch except with weird product descriptions like Bamco and Pegi 12. They were right in leaking AssCreed 3 along with it

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You know FE picks are shit when the only arguments are

>haha I hope we eat shit because some people would be mad about it
>muh axe

They literally just copy and pasted character's data into a new slot.
>Especially a character that isn't even fully first party?
???

>All the insiders were right about the grinch leak
Sorry you didn't get your literal who's grinchie

I don't even think he would be boring, but his series is dead and buried and there are other Square IPs that are still alive, young and old, some very relevant to Nintendo. Like, I think even Geno makes more sense than him since you could possibly bring that character back to million DLC money for Square in future Mario games, and when we bring Sora, who is breaking records, or a DQ rep, who comes from an older series that has historically outsold Chrono in any platform the two IPs met... Bravely rep who is an active series or even Neku, who has a game in the works, all make more sense than Crono. So yeah, it sucks, but it's so unlikely I just brush off any leak with Crono.

Fuck smash, I want an anime.

Bayonetta was popular as fuck during the ballot. Kamiya got tired of retards bothering him about it too.

Simon never showed up on all those online polls and despite that placed rather high in the actual ballot.

HEY EVERYONE LOOK
IT'S VERGE "LINK'S AWAKENING" BEN!

It's pretty goddamn convenient that the placeholder has the name of a character that "won" the ballot instead of being named practically anything else.

Didn't the author of the books raise a stink about the games because he dicks-and-crows'd himself thinking the series would be a flop?

Whatever happen to them after the Joker reveal?

>It's pretty goddamn convenient that the placeholder has the name of a character that "won" the ballot instead of being named practically anything else.
What? The placeholder didn't have Bayonetta's name. It was just named Zero Suit Samus. SourceGaming is presenting their information in a really confusing way.

Then why doesn't it have the name of a existing character?
Bayonetta isn't in house either. Why would they pick her name over a character Nintendo owns completely?

not gonna be a fire emblem rep. it's gonna be erdrick.
pretty disappointing either way but at least erdrick has good reason to be in + a legacy and cool move set potential.
fe would probably just be more shill shit unless we get something based like hector, and you know we won't.

pleasantly surprised to see someone post geno without a load of shitposting. that's how you know the whiny zoomers aren't around. that said, fellow genobro, it's not happening, man. i'm pretty sure we'll get our costume back, though.

hes remained mostly quiet, but he still says erdrick is in.

A lot of Smash 4's newcomers used existing characters as a base. For example: Little Mac was built off of Captain Falcon.
The slot that would eventually go to Bayonetta had Zero Suit Samus's parameters copied over. The ones that went to Corrin and Cloud had Ike's data.

You guys really need to stop expecting smash for every single event in existence

I bet you think Trump is going to be a smash character because of the upcoming term

Oh they predicted the next, 3d Top Down Zelda Game would have nothing to do with Link's Awakening, and then said 'My sources 100% confirmed there's nothing related to Link's Awakening." and then it was Link's awakening.

But him and his lil faggot patrol swear it's Candance from Crypt of the Necrodancer and Zelda's crossover he was talking about.

If there is a Square DLC (which I'm not betting on anyways) Crono isn't the most likely. It would be neat since Chrono Trigger is a cult item that hopped from SNES to PS1 to DS to PC. But since a bunch of Final Fantasy ports are coming out on Switch I would only consider it possible if CT got rereleased with them.

>Bayonetta was popular as fuck during the ballot.

Nope. She wasn't even considered possible by 99% of people.

>Kamiya got tired of retards bothering him about it too.

Oh wow someone bothered Kamiya on twitter.

I doubt she was even in the top 30. With the exception of Simon the other ballot picks were characters with incredibly vocal online support.

You guys need to understand that Nintendo isn’t planning every reveal to certain events

It’s specifically Atlus that’s holding off Joker

Thanks for the update.

Okay well then fuck me on that and. But even then, it still uses the same data as Bayonetta regardless and I doubt there's another character that would match it so well.

Simon's an exception but Bayonetta doesn't count because you don't like it? Ok retard. Were you even here during Yea Forums when the ballot was happening? We had a ton of Bayonetta threads.

>we know the second DLC pack will be
You people need to seriously shut the fuck up. Not one of you have been right about a single thing about smash ultimate, stop trying to be prophets. It's like you all have a fetish for being wrong.

Bayonetta was a hell of a lot more likely than fucking Cloud.

So now when Grinchfags get called out they use Vergeben.
Funny. Can't wait for the French leak to end up real: this way all Vergeben's claims will end up true, and none of you faggots will dareto complain because you'll end up getting Banjo & Kazooie.
You'll all crawl back to your shitty holes, ashamed of ever doubting insiders who put body and soul into revealing exciting videogames stuff. You'll then all pretend a SE character was obvious despite Cloud only getting two songs, two spirits and Sakurai confirming it was difficult to bring everyone back (and it was obviously Cloud who created problems).
Then Minecraft content and, specifically, the Minecraft boss will happen. You'll all scream "HAHAHA! REFUSTEVES BTFO!" while carefully forgetting that Vergeben never said Steve was going to be playable, only Minecraft content, and specifically a boss.
You'll then, a week later, say that everything he ever called was obvious.
It happened when Snake and Ridley were revealed, despite no one believing Snake would ever return or Ridley ever be playable.
It happened with Simon Belmont, who was as often mentioned as Joker from P5, but was for some reason considered "obvious" AFTER August.
It happened with Incineroar and Ken, when for ten days all of you faggots fell hook, line and sinker to the Grinch leak.
You're all jealous.

Reminder

>Zero suit and Ike in smash 4
>used for Bayonetta and Cloud

>Bowser Jr was used for Piranha Plant

>Duck Hunt and Mii Swordfighter are being used

Banjo’s in

>"I believe it is the success of my books that significantly affects the popularity of the games," he returned. "That in reality, the games used this fact, as my success beat the games to the punch.

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>Simon's an exception but Bayonetta doesn't count because you don't like it?

The difference is for Simon they didn't go "THIS IS THE WINNER OF THE BALLOT EVEN THOUGH MAYBE 10 OF YOU AT MOST VOTED FOR THEM"

>Were you even here during Yea Forums when the ballot was happening? We had a ton of Bayonetta threads.

All made by you and maybe one other person. There was an Arle thread the other day but I doubt shes among the highest voted.

Trusting vergeben was at least less embarrassing than what you grinchfags went through.

Boss dlc will never happen

>Mii swordfighter had two Monster Hunter costumes
HE'S IN

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Which is irrelevant because Clouds reveal happened way after the ballot ended.

Maybe the developers used ZSS' placeholder data for the character they thought they would win? And that character would have been Inkling. They crawl like ZSS does for some reason and they use a gun, so it's not unlikely.

If it's an FE rep he'll probably cum from the rush of diarrhea sloshing down his gullet

>finally want to try out swordfighter
>they killed the mh costumes
I'm still mad

>Duck Hunt and Mii Swordfighter are being used
Are you still taking save corruptions that ended up being caused by faulty hardware as a fact?

>maybe they thought it was this character with a body size half of this character they based it off of

C'mon dude. You can still enjoy Bayonetta while admitting that she didn't win shit.

>western picks bad
ahem
HEY, PLUMBER BOY

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user we both know that's one hell of a reach considering inklings don't even come close to zss proportions

That's not a reach at all since Piranha Plant used Bowser Jr as a base.

Saplowski is eternally butthurt about taking a lump sum instead of a percentage so he deludes himself into thinking his books were massively popular already and the games had nothing to do with it expanding outside slav land.

You have to be a stevefag. Lmfao

It's almost as if the FE criticism is actually because it has too many characters rather than an arbitrary hatred towards the franchise like FEtards claim it is.

Bosses aren't on the DLC counter, Seethe Steve.

They both sit in something and have a closer height. Which is more similar than ZSS and Inkling

>also thinking that bayonetta beat inkling in a nintendo focused poll

Big differences are:

>everyone was expecting boring old chrom because of the gematsu leaks
>fire emblem didn't have nearly as many characters as it does now

your axe would work exactly like swords, FEnigger

that hasnt even been proven, though. peoples shit corrupted even if it was legitimate.

Vergeben also said the minecraft content would be in the base game, as a boss.
Do you see any minecraft?

By now its evolved to the latter.

Chrom should have got in over Lucina.

Fire Emblem fucking sucks and Japan's fetish for it over superior titles is borderline disturbing. Weeb taste is garbage.

Nah, FE is shit and so are it's two retarded fan bases of jaded boomers and waifushitters

Lucina was planned as a costume for Marth, Chrom wasn't, that's why she got in.

fuckin BASED

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Nope. Every common criticism FE receives is completely deserved.

Also entitled little shits. I swear they could release a compilation of every game for free and they would still act like they're the most mistreated fanbase of all time.

Piranha Plant's and Bowser Jr's similarities begin and end on the fact that they're riding in something. They're 100% different otherwise. Little Mac was also confirmed to use Captain Falcon as a base, so they're a height difference. Inkling and ZSS are both humanoids, so it wouldn't be hard to use ZSS as a base. It would explain why Inkling can crawl, because I don't remember crawling in Splatoon but I may be wrong.

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That's why its never going to happen. EVERYONE expects a Three Houses rep and it was specifically stated by Reggie Fils Amie back at the 2018 VGAs when they announced Joker for the Fighter's Pass that they are going for characters you wouldn't expect in Smash Bros or something to that effect. An 8th FE rep contradicts that.

Another FE character is unironically far preferable to literal whos like Erdrick

>Duck hunt
>Fast, but small, quadrupedal character + wings
Yeah, I think he's in.

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Where is your proof of this? I need some convincing proof since rosterfags have been riding on the save corruption glitch.

Nintendo could easily make a Soul Calibur with the Fire Emblem cast, boom.

Are you pulling claims out of your ass again OP? Regardless if it's any FE character at all I'm not buying it. I'm buying fighters individually and not the pass because I don't want to end up paying for characters I'll never play again. I regretted buying Roy and Lucas in SSB4. I intentionally didn't unlock Chrom or Lucina in this one either

>I intentionally didn't unlock Chrom or Lucina in this one either
How does that work? Do you keep killing yourself after every challenger approaching?

This is why I believe the 5chan leak, a character like ryu hayabusa would literally come out of nowhere. And doomguy is a never ever since he's from the west and no one thinks western shit is getting in. Even erdrick is surprising to a degree, the reason he's so talked about is cause of the brave leak. If the nintendo didn't allow that info to leak erdrick would've been a surprise to see. Steve is the only iffy one.

Are you this guy by any chance? He hates FE so much that he intentionally didn't unlock any of the characters.

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You'd have to be a fucking moron to buy in after they opened with Piranha Plant.

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There is no challenger approaching after you lose the first time in Ultimate. You have to use the door on the blue menu. They won't ever bother you playing vs mode.

if you try to source where the "sd cards might be the issue" first came from, you'll only find reddit threads. all the news articles link back to it with no real evidence for or against the cause.

nintendo cant replicate the glitch which could mean they are using a different build where its fixed or the glitch is just a random occurence.

Literally 10% of the roster is gone. Yikes.

Not that guy, I did unlock Marth and Ike

Actually you're wrong, e3 ended with Dark Pit, or Pittoo as I like to call him :^)

Didn't they say all FP characters were going to be from series new to Smash?

It was free, you just had to find that email to activate it.

He did not. Go look up the video he says nothing like that. Everyone just decided he meant something completely different from what he said

>nintendo cant replicate the glitch which could mean they are using a different build where its fixed or the glitch is just a random occurence.
Why the fuck wouldn't Nintendo use the current build? That's retarded. The fact that Nintendo can't replicate it and nobody else has means that the corruption isn't related to the software.

Oh look the Smashtrannies are crying like little faggots again over nothing.

English is hard

Based and redpilled
Fuck fe and the waifufags that infest it

It's amazing how much more diverse the roster looks.

Is this autism?

>take away anime people with cape and sword
>the total average of uniqueness goes up

>He can't ignore what he doesn't like
legitimate autism

Why are smashies so sensitive

Now this is a balanced roster.

Unlocking Roy is required to beat World of Light iirc, so he gave up beating the Adventure mode for this cause. Absolutely based.

He can though, by not unlocking it.

Actually, the riding thing isn't even the end
Plant literally has bowser jr animations in his files twitter.com/Meshima_/status/1091183862967726080?s=19

>On the character select screen, something you have to see every time no matter what game mode you play
>And a multiplayer game, where other people can pick whoever
>"Just ignore it!"

to be fair world of light gets pretty boring, i doubt most people got very far in it

Might delete my save and do this too

Fucking this

Why do Stevefags pretend that Virginben never said Steve would be playable?

Remember when Viriginben said Steve would be announced at MineCon?

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He never said Steve would be playable.
He onyl stated there would be a Minecraft boss.
If he said otherwise show proof.

If everyone expects it to happen then by saying the releases would be unexpected then people would no longer expect it.

>Is the pokemon trainer for FE heroes
>One of them is Xander

that was one of his bad sources that he never uses anymore.

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I shouldn't want to fuck this version of Peach

It will be my cute wife

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i'm glad that your lolibait got deconfirmed after the fact that wario's shoulder bash is back, warefag

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Imagine being this butthurt over the existence of FE

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It's an excuse

No shit, user? What do you think those motion files are referring to?

I like DQ. Then again, I don't go to plantfags looking for good opinions of any kind.

The only nintendo franchises that have sold less than FE are Splatoon (no surprise because it's brand new) and F-Zero

So why the fuck does it have almost as much reps as Mario and Pokemon? It doesn't deserve them.

Nice to see you're missing the point completely user

lemonade

Pikmin.

Your series sucks and is only alive thanks to waifu pandering and autistic gatcha faggots.

"We can't reveal the characters but hope you'll buy the Fighters Pass trusting in its true value."

"Our picks are shit and only retards will buy it and get scammed."

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Splatoon actually passed FE in the most recent report they released

> Star Fox
> F-Zero
> Pikmin
> Xenoblade
> Punch-Out
> Mother
> Earthbound
> Kid Icarus
> Ice Climbers

>So why the fuck does it have almost as much reps as Mario and Pokemon?
Because Fire Emblem has never not had a new game in development. It's one of NIntendo's biggest series by the sheer volume of games it released. That's why Fire Emblem has so many reps. That and Fire Emblem having so many characters to easily turn into Marth clones.

>3 games
>compared to FE's 20

Sakurai is an FE fanboy iirc

Splatoon has to have outsold it by now. It's still going strong

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Probably Intelligent Systems demands given two of them literally plugged games that weren't released.

Similar to how TPC requires a new Pokemon character each game.

I doubt it. He didn't know that Ike existed during Brawl and Ike's first game had been out for years. It seems like he only got on the Fire Emblem train on Awakening and was aware of it being a long running series during Melee.

They way that was worded and Sakurai saying he understood if you didn't want to purchase it without knowing really set me on only buying individual fighters I actually want and not the pass. If in the end I want all 5, it's only $4 extra spent and I think that's worth it for the safety net of not risking buying more FE, Undertale, or Steve

>Similar to how TPC requires a new Pokemon character each game.
TPC doesn't require shit. Sakurai is the one that actively wants a new gen Pokemon each game.

>Actually following shitty nintendo rumor mills

Half the Fire Emblem series is still Japan-exclusive so it inherently sells less than everything else.
The Japanese fanbase goes back to 1990. Everywhere else there were none until 2003.

If quantity of games is it then DK, Metroid, and Kirby should have more characters and KI would still have 1.

>gives FE the same number of characters as Pokemon in 4
>"nah he doesn't like it"

> He didn't know that Ike existed during Brawl and Ike's first game had been out for years
What? Brawl started development the same year Parh of Radiance came out

It's been getting consistent releases since 2003, it's been longer non-exclusive to Japan than it has been exclusive. And having Japan exclusive games is better than not having releases at all. That excuse doesn't work especially since even the best selling FE games don't even come close to Nintendos best sellers.

I still want more DK desu. Dixie feels like a must to me, and Funky as a DK Echo instead of a 4th fucking Marth would've been cool. That'd be enough for me, though Cranky would be based as well, and Lanky as a meme.

>Dixie feels like a must to me
god no

>Square would never let it happen

Am I missing something, because everyone talks about Square like they hate Nintendo and would never work together with them, meanwhile tons of Square Enix games are releasing on Nintendo consoles.

If they were okay with a Geno Mii costume, I don't see why Geno himself is somehow off limits. Not like they're using him.

>took 10 years of begging for Sakurai to add in a reasonable character for DK

We'll never get another one unless Sakurai gets to direct a DK game.

Based and Toadpilled

>Ninja Turtles ripoff

yeah sure kid

Dixie almost made it into brawl as a duo character with Diddy. She deserves a spot. I’d argue maybe funky at least as a dk echo and cranky as an original character too.

>She deserves a spot.
lmao

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Brave is Banjo & Kazooie.
"Brave" is not the name of Erdrick. Erdrick and Loto are. Yuusha translates to Hero. It isn't brave.
Brave is also the Pixar movie where Merida's mother gets turned into a bear and the entire movie has a bear motif. Japan is crazy for Pixar.
It's a codename. Just like "Jane" and "Jack".
If you've been paying attention, Banjo is obvious at this point that it would not even be a surprise. Your precious "leakers" know this too.
But you dont have to take my word for it. You have already seen Brave's stats. But more importantly, its height. If you think Edelgard is a midget like Mario then stay delusional.
You guys voted for your stupid bear and it is the MOST voted character at this point so you're going to get it.

Fuck you
It's sad how poorly they treat it. Low key Nintendo's 4th best selling IP (5th depending how you count Wii stuff). Diddy Kong was a Melee tier character, and Dixie and K. Rool should've been both in by SSB4, regardless of which order you chose to add them.
I only would argue Funky as an Echo, he could be made unique but if you're making a 5th DK character it should be Cranky. But Funky would have been a much better use of Echo dev time than Chrom for sure. DK is maybe big enough to deserve Cranky as a 5th. If we go by FE logic then DK should get every single Kong ever.

>Not wanted to own every fighter, regardless if weather you like them or not
Come on man it wasn't that much, and I'd rather own a complete game.

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>not thinking dkc 2 is the greatest platformer of all time

Overdose on tide pods zoomer faggot

Holy shit Banjoids are delusional
t.Fulgorechad

Fuck sakurai
Fuck fire emblem bros
And fuck the janny

>willingly paying for something you won't like

?

reminded me to get the fighter pass thanks.

I had that mentality with Smash 4 DLC. I ended up deeply regretting that decision. Fuck any notion of a complete game, I'm only buying what I want.

That would require making 3 new Fire Emblem characters, plus she can’t summon heroes. Just give her a tome and her brave staff and she’s good.

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>Another staff user

He only disagreed that Dixie doesn't deserve a spot, he literally didn't talk shit about DKC2 in anyway.

Prime 4.

>some asshole sells you a mystery box for $25
>get mad when you open it and find a flaming bag of dogshit

>Don't think Dixie 'deserves' a spot
>This means I don't like DKC2
???

Remixed for Smash.

Because DK isn't a character focused franchise. Everything after DK and Diddy besides maybe Cranky is scraping bottom of the barrel.

Being one of the main characters in one of the best platformers of all time. We have an oversaturation of literal who’s and Dixie is an actual significant Nintendo character.

>"This box has some of the best food ever"
>"wtf there's shit in this box"
>"Why did you buy it if you didn't want shit????"

>and Dixie is an actual significant Nintendo character.
Don't go full retard.

Any fan of the game would want her in smash

How old are you

And she's the star of her own game, which was still pretty good though it didn't hold a candle to DKC1 and 2

Nobody's asking for shit like a kremling(although that wouldn't be too ridiculous in a post plant world)

What makes Dixie for example more scraping the bottom of the barrel compared to pics like Palutena?

But I like Diddy more. Don't care for Dixie at all, since she's just Diddy's sidekick.

Exactly I like dkc 3 but many don’t care for it.

She literally had her own game. Now if I asked for kiddy in smash I’d be retarded. No one likes him:

>Palutena

Hey SS angel fucboi, we need to save the world. By the way the series is named after me that's pretty cool too.

>Dixie
INCOHERENT MONKEY NOISES
PROPELLER SOUNDS

You have no excuse when we only get Pikmin games once every N I N E (9) FUCKING YEARS.

To be fair when I bought Corrin in Smash 4 I was expecting to end up hating him since he was FE #100, but he was super fun. Bayo was the opposite I loved her games but didn't enjoy her fighting style in Smash.
I have no regrets on buying the complete set, because I won't be certain until I actually play as the character.

>What makes Dixie for example more scraping the bottom of the barrel compared to pics like Palutena?
The fact that Dixie only made her comeback very recently. And she wasn't even a main character, just one of Donkey Kong's sidekicks.

Her own game that everyone forgot about and she's lost all her relevance since then.

Can't you buy the fighters pass after they reveal everyone? There's literally no reason to buy it this early when you don't know who's in other than Joker

>By the way the series is named after me that's pretty cool too.

Palutenapologists always bring this up as if it had any influence in her inclusion. Also Dixie's game has her name in the titile.

>implying character depth has anything to due with inclusions
>implying that Palutena isn't a 2 dimensional character at best with her personality only being there due to localization

Don’t even act like it’s something so prevelant in Smash that it would be an issue. Literally only Palutena uses one.

>Dixie gets her own game
>Subsequently gets dropped from her own series and becomes irrelevant as fuck
rip Dixie's chances at ever being in Smash

Just like king k Rool is irrelevant. Dixie was in tropical freeze and both the Wii U and switch version sold millions.

Palutena was in a game made by Sakurai, that's why she's in. Dixie is not.

>The fact that Dixie only made her comeback very recently.

Unlike Palutena??????? Especially since she's not even playable in her own game?????? And we're not ever going to get another KI game????

>And she wasn't even a main character, just one of Donkey Kong's sidekicks.

"IT'S OKAY WHEN KID ICARUS DOES IT"

K Rool at least had fan demand backing him. Dixie doesn't have shit.

That gook is a fucking hack. Too much favoritism to characters he works with or created.

>Dixie was in tropical freeze

Yeah as a glorified power up. The only reason people ever asked for Dixie in drag is because K Rool wasn't in the game and people wanted arbitrary DK representation. Now that K Rool is in, theres no reason to have girl Diddy, certainly not as a DLC character.

Palutena is more important to KI than Dixie is to DK please cry some more. Literally NOBODY cares about Dixie outside of Smash season where suddenly she's some diversity pick because "Dk needs more characters and I don't care how boring they are".

>Palutena never gets her own game
>Was never relevant outside of Smash to begin with

That's blatantly obvious to anyone who isn't a Sakurai apologist. The argument was about how Palutena wasn't scraping the bottom of the barrel but Dixie somehow is.

It's one of Miyamoto's pet series, he won't let it die for good. It's just said to be a lower priority.

this would actually be kind of fascinating. if yuk got in over underhertale.

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>glorified power up

Someone never played hard mode. You can pick any of the Kong’s by themselves. She plays unique to anyone else.

Tropical Freeze was released too late for it to have any input in Smash Bros. And Dixie wasn't even a major character in it, she has to share the spotlight with three other characters as DK's sidekick.

>Palutena is more important to KI than Dixie is to DK please cry some more.

She's a supporting character. Dixie was a main character(which according to FE fans, means you're automatically entitled to be a smash character) in a game that sold more than all of the KI games combined.

> Literally NOBODY cares about Dixie outside of Smash

Imagine defending Palutena and saying this unironically.

>"Dk needs more characters and I don't care how boring they are".

Donkey Kong has had excellent diversity on it's characters while the Pits and Palutena are some of the most basic characters in the entire series.

The point still stands. You could take Dixie out of Tropical Freeze (and even DKC 3 for that matter, considering you can just play as Diddy the whole time) and the game would be unchanged. Kid Icarus doesn't work without Palutena.

>Donkey Kong has had excellent diversity on it's characters
But we're not talking about those characters. We're talking about Diddy but a girl.

Where did this notion come from that the next DLC pack is Fire Emblem?

>the year is 202x
>the next smash bros is coming out
>Yea Forums is still seething over FE
i cant wait

SEETHING Dixie Kong furfag

Smash autism.

>Tropical Freeze was released too late for it to have any input in Smash Bros.

Dixie existed since DKC2. If Sakurai liked DKC we'd have had her since Brawl.

>And Dixie wasn't even a major character in it, she has to share the spotlight with three other characters as DK's sidekick.

>saying this when Palutena and Dark Pit are in the game

based
Why are people defending some bottom of the barrel monkey? Is it because they want to fuck a stupid monkey?

People that WANT to be disappointed

I honestly hope the remaining 4 DLC characters are Edelgard, Steve, Fornite guy and Sans JUST to spite you faggots.

>Dixie is a "main" character

That doesn't do anything besides monkey screech and just serves as a tool for the player to interact with the game world, then immediately disappeared because nobody cared about her.

Even the most basic Fire Emblem lords have character arcs and a plot that they engage in, Dixie is nothing besides the gameplay she provided years ago.

Sakurai did like DKC if he was apparently planning on adding Dixie to Diddy's moveset. But Dixie has fallen pretty hard and become irrelevant since her game. Her only recent relevance through Tropical Freeze was released too late to make it into Smash Bros.

the assumption that an expo might be the place for a smash reveal trailer, but in reality if they were to do that they may as well make a smash related announcement for the people who are not con-goers in japan.

>We're talking about Diddy but a girl.

Even then she could still be an echo. According to the Uprising apologists we're not allowed to complain about Dark Pit because of that but funnily enough they always act as if literally any other echo would ruin the entire game.

Even then she could be her own character if they wanted to maker her one, they did it with less to work with on other characters.

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Are you saying it’s okay to remove Diddy then?

Palutena is kind of a Zelda case since the series is named after her in Japan and Dark Pit is a glorified color swap.

Dixie was almost added to Brawl as part of a duo with Diddy, but the plans fell through and by then she was too old for Wii U's newcomers and lost to K.Rool in popularity for Ultimate.

Cranky would be 10x better than Dixie anyway, i don't know why this furfag is sucking Dixie's dick so hard.

The reasoning is kinda retarded but
>if we don't get a direct next week, and joker does indeed get dropped on the concert with 0 gameplay beforehand, there might be a legit chance they could reveal fighter 2 at fe expo

>I bought the pass
I want access to all characters. I don't really care if they were my preferred choice or not. I've been playing smash since 64 and creating themed battles is still one of the best parts of the game. I'm not rooting for more FE and I'll definitely be upset if it's not a villain, but I still want access to the character.

$20 for 5 characters stages and multiple songs is more than worth it for me.

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>Palutenapologists always bring this up as if it had any influence in her inclusion.
I'm pretty sure that's part of it. Zelda was included in Melee before Ganondorf, and even had tow movesets to boot, while Ganondorf only made it in as a last minute clone.

>Even then she could still be an echo.
She could. And she could have been an Echo Fighter if there was enough fan demand for her. But Daisy beat her. Even Dark Samus beat her. Shit, Japan wanted Chrom over Dixie. She's fucked forever.

>DUDE EPIC SALT XD FIRE EMBLEM GANG TROLLS U AND DRINKS UR TEARS ROFL

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Well thats what you get for listening to GamingIntel. There was never supposed ot be a direct recently. Now you guys are stucking making conspiracy theories. Just be patient and let things happen for gods sake.

Sounds like someone's upset.

Kill yourself Wojakshitter

>1st DLC is literal who edgy anime dude
>2d DLC is literal who anime swordman #568
Damn, I wouldn't like to be the guy that bought that shit.

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>i'm totally not seething guys let me post this wojack to show how much im not seething

Based FE absolutely DABBING on the Smash faggots.

Nope, they're actually a separate company. They aren't even partially owned by Nintendo or anything (Although Nintendo does have a take in the FE franchise itself).

She quips the whole time and adds very little to gameplay. Completely unnecessary. It’s just sakurai circle jerking.

Dkc 3, which stars Dixie, sold more units than the whole kid Icarus franchise.

Crone or Neku are two welcomed characters beloved by all. It would seriously make up for another shitty FE rep. Also BK is for dreams so I hope he is in, even Master Chief as long as Steve isn't in.

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>MUH CHARACTER ARC
>in a crossover game with mostly one dimensional characters from games that don't have a story focus

Just admit you masturbate to Palutena and couldn't get past the first stage in any DK game.

>Sakurai did like DKC if he was apparently planning on adding Dixie to Diddy's moveset

Over a decade later and he hasn't even bothered to make her an echo.

>But Dixie has fallen pretty hard and become irrelevant since her game.

Just like every KI character.

>Her only recent relevance through Tropical Freeze was released too late to make it into Smash Bros.

Ultimate released 4 years later. If the standards are low enough to add Palutena/Dark Pit there's no reason not to add Dixie.

I don't pay any attention to gamingintel but sure, go off

Microsoft rep uh? Yep, I'm thinking he's in.

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Imagine buying something when you have no idea of its contents and no refund.

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>Palutena is kind of a Zelda case since

The only damsel in distress characters that got in are from 2 of the biggest franchises.

>implying this was it
>after Uprising got treated as if it was the biggest most popular game of all time in Smash 4
>implying if literally anyone else in the world directed the game the idea of Palutena even would have crossed their minds

More people wanted her than Dark Pit.

>stars Dixie

You say that as if people bought the game because Dixie was the main character. People don't give a shit about Dixie people just wanted to play as DK. Im sure many people were sad that DK wasnt playable yet again in fact and they had to play as a bimbo. It probably even hurt the games sales

Based

FEfags are a sensitive bunch, they're up there with Pokefags.

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>Over a decade later and he hasn't even bothered to make her an echo.
No shit. Because there hasn't been enough fan demand to add her as an Echo Fighter for Ultimate and Tropical Freeze came out too late for 4.
>Just like every KI character.
And the only reason they're back is because everyone is here.
>Ultimate released 4 years later.
And Ultimate had to add heavy ballot hitters and Nintendo characters from the biggest Nintendo franchises because there weren't going to be able to add a lot of characters. Dixie didn't stand a chance, especially since K Rool was going to be added and there wasn't enough fan demand for her to be an Echo Fighter.

And it still sold more than Uprising LMAO

> PALUTENA BAD
> MONKEY GOOD
Kill yourself

I bought it, if Banjo is in then I don't care.

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>Yea Forums constantly shits on Western games and claims Japan is better then them constantly.
>When it comes to Smash, it's all the Japanese characters with the anime aesthetics that get shit on the hardest, and Western stuff is valued more.

Fuck Smash. I just want more Ike alts in FEH.

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>More people wanted her than Dark Pit.
Dark Pit was added during Smash 4, not Ultimate. He's back in Ultimate because everyone is here.

based as fuck

>No shit. Because there hasn't been enough fan demand to add her as an Echo Fighter for Ultimate and Tropical Freeze came out too late for 4.

Where was the demand for Dark Pit?

>And the only reason they're back is because everyone is here.

I'm going by your arguments against Dixie, they shouldn't have got in the first place.

>And Ultimate had to add heavy ballot hitters and Nintendo characters from the biggest Nintendo franchises because there weren't going to be able to add a lot of characters

>believing this when plant and baracat got added before le epic grinch posters show up i like these characters but you have to admit the demand for them was non existant

How low is the collective IQ of Yea Forums? Even if we were getting another FE rep, why the fuck would it be Edelgard over the actual protagonist Byleth? That leak only had her cause we never saw the avatar character yet and this """leaker""" assumed the game would be like FE7 with 3 different protags. Holy shit you guys are retarded.

No matter how hard you seethe it wont change the fact that paluetena got in and Dixie will literally never be in. And even if this game was directed by someone else, they still wouldn't have put Dixie in cause shes an irrelevant trash monkey

Get fucked and good night.

>YOU HAVE TO BE THE MOST POPULAR VIDEO GAME CHARACTER EVER TO GET IN SMASH
>unless if you're from uprising there shouldn't be any standards for them

The idea of a western character in smash was laughed at until recently

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Remember what the fire emblem shitters say
They think they need more, because it's not enough that a fucking 2 times dead series with garbage sales has more reps than every other franchise excluding Mario and Pokemon, they want more

At this point the whole concept of a Nintendo crossover fighter should be scrapped, and replaced with Fire Emblem Fighters, the exact same game with only FE characters. Mario and Link are unlockables, every one else is cut from the game because the devs apparently only care about the mediocre tactical RPG Fire Emblem.

>Japan is anime and nothing else

fucking weebs

Tellius!

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The only western characters in Smash now are still just from western developed sequels to Jap franchises.

So you should still be laughing at the idea of western characters in smash

Dixie is in the subtitle. The game came out after the n64 and still outsold uprising. Dk and Diddy aren’t even seen til the end of the game. It’s Dixie’s game. She deserves a spot. And sakurai had planned her a spot. She was cut.

>believing this when plant and baracat got added
I wasn't aware that Piranha Plant and Incineroar weren't part of Nintendo's biggest franchises. This is news to me. What games are they from then?

Double based for also dabbing on insider faggots

>And sakurai had planned her a spot.
Not at all. Dixie was just going to be part of Diddy's moveset. Nothing more. Nothing less. She's not significant enough to get her own spot on the roster.

Technically Diddy was the first western character in brawl

Because "they wouldn't add yet another FE blue-haired swordie, they would go with a different weapon this time". Which I think has some merit, Chrom wasn't added in 4 because they thought he wasn't different enough from Marth.

The original claim was that Dixie would be scraping the bottom of the barrel but literally nobody responding to me could come up with a reason why Palutena isn't. Despite Dixie's game alone having more people play it than every KI combined.

>The original claim was that Dixie would be scraping the bottom of the barrel
based as fuck claim

I don't disagree with that, I disagree with:
>and Western stuff is valued more

>I wasn't aware that Piranha Plant and Incineroar weren't part of Nintendo's biggest franchises

>Heavy ballot hitters

I mean from what I understand they aren’t changing much about MP4’s story, which means Sylux is still the central antagonist

Brainlet

>And Ultimate had to add heavy ballot hitters and Nintendo characters from the biggest Nintendo franchises
>and Nintendo characters from the biggest Nintendo franchises
nice reading comprehension, retard

It also claimed that a character from a much less popular game somehow wasn't. It's like saying 5 dollars isn't a lot of money but having 2 dollars somehow makes you rich.

Source?

the only brainlets are the people who think Dixie isn't scrapping the bottom of the barrel

>and Nintendo characters from the biggest Nintendo franchises

like DK?

If Dixie is considered bottom of the barrel then we’ve dug way past the bottom at this point

Those characters aren't appealing to a different fanbase, though.

Marth to Lucina to Chrom are three very different fanbases pleased with basically no work needed to add the latter two.

Do you know who they had to get Shovel Knight from?
nintendolife.com/news/2018/12/video_watch_the_amazing_moment_yacht_club_games_discover_shovel_knight_in_smash_ultimate
hint: Americans

>Comparing DK to Splatoon, Mario, Pokemon and Animal Crossing

>bottom of the barrel
>characters game still outsold every KI game combined

LMAO what does that make Palutena then? Fucking underneath the barrel HAHAHAHA

Seething Monkey fucker, Dixie is never getting in

lmao@salesfags. A character isn't automatically better than another one because "but the game sold more" otherwise Ness would never even be in 64. It's also about cultural relevance and in-series importance.

>Marth to Lucina to Chrom are three very different fanbases

>anime guy with a sword, anime guy with a sword, and anime guy with a sword appeal to completely different people