Where did the dual wielding swords meme come from in vidya?

No shit. Rapier/gauche is for dueling, spear and pike is for soldiering. You wouldn't use a spear in a duel either because you get your ass kicked.

>You wouldn't use a spear in a duel either because you get your ass kicked.
not nececelery, they're pretty good for 1on1 too

They're way too slow. If a sword wielder gets inside your reach its over.

Shield plus anything rolls them, and so does gauche. It only beats stupid weapons like zwei/halberd, which it unironically loses to in formation.

Just the other day I watched a vid from the op guy full of one-on-ones where blade-users got beaten by spears easy

youtube.com/watch?v=afqhBODc_8U 3:00 to 17:00

post lindies

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I've already seen this.
These guys are all shit and don't know how to handle spear. Once you get used to spear and how small the kill zone is on it, it is extremely easy to trap and close.

>A shield is just too much of a boon to pass up.

Shield is the last thing you'll want to bring to a group fight, if you're serious. It's cumbersome, it blocks visibility, it's slow to use, it makes you passive, stops you from moving, the demerits are simply too many to list. You can achieve everything a shield can with another sword. The difference is all in your head.

I would only ever take a shield to a disciplined Roman style battle, where you have a squad you can trust, who all work as one, and never-ever break formation in an effort to look cool.

>larpers not actually going for the kill
Spearman being able to brush you with the point of his spear in some HEMA larp sessions doesn't mean in the field he would actually be able to drive it through you before you close the gap.

Also this. A spear is much more likely to glance and not make good contact.

They're going by unrealistic rules where if your weapon makes contact with the opponent its a point/win. In a real situation you would have to actually kill your opponent with the weapon, you couldn't do those gay ass rapid jabs with the spear and expect it to work. Spears are best for formation use where you're working as a team and can put weight behind your pushes with the weapon.

They're not slow. You can move the tip a lot with small movements because of the length. It's also not easy to close in, and even if you do the spear user can mitigate the disadvantage by pulling the spear back and holding it closer to the tip.

The primary disadvantage of spears compared to swords is that you can't wear a spear like you can a sword so it's often not as easily available, and with shield a sword is probably better as well. Armor can change the dynamic a lot too. But in an unarmored context without shields the sword user is probably going to get fucked.

From the real world.

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duh if one sword has 15atk you get +30atk by wielding two swords

Spear has a tiny kill zone, the weapon is more likely to glance, strokes are useless, you can't edge-bear, it's literally the easiest weapon to trap, and you have zero protection and expose yourself with each thrust.
It's a terrible duel weapon and needs a bunch of other dudes to support it.
Not him btw

I've never really liked dual swords in videogames. I don't know why, I don't really have as big an issue with dual wielding guns. I guess I'm not a fan of the 'lots of small attacks really quickly' thing.
Like lances and pikes and that. And flails. More games should have flails.

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Water dancing anyone?

>You wouldn't use a spear in a duel either because you get your ass kicked.
If the spear wielder has any longstaff experience (which he should), then a couple swift bops from two metres away will end any duel.
The pointy bit isn't the only bit that can kill you.

youtube.com/watch?v=UGv_UdgHeCQ

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Wielding two swords = very gay
Wielding two daggers = slightly less gay
Wielding a sword and dagger = okay, but ambiguously gay
Wielding any of them upside down = underage
Wielding a mace and axe = has a wife and kids and set to retire by his early 40s

The west largely went more with parrying daggers
Some dueling manuals dictacte usages for two swords, but there is little evidence of it in combat - there were a few duelists that opted for two fencing swords, but largely used the second as a pivot for a surprise move, and the act of the "parrying dagger" was common, where a smaller dagger would be used in the offhand to deflect a blade to then move forth with the main sword
on the east, some notable swordsmen invented momentum-based dual sword styles and used them to apparently great efficacy, mostly by using themselves as a pivot of motion
this is what for honor used as inspiration for their weeb character with two swords
and why he has that spin-like attack
these were very highly specialized though

>You wouldn't use a spear in a duel

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More than likely came from d&d. The vast majority of fantasy vidya shit comes from Tolkien or D&D. For better or worse.

Can he go five minutes without making fun of the French?

Another weapon slot. More options. Another gamestyle. No reason not to use it.

Post laughing gooks all you want, they were almost never used in duels. But most likely because they weren’t fashionable like court swords/small swords/rapiers and whatnot.

No. And he can’t make a single video where the focal point isn’t about how great [British thing] is.

Miyamoto Musashi, author of "The Book of Five Rings". He won like 50 something duals to the death and he always wielded two swords.

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tabletop

He actually didn’t always use two swords, nor did he mostly use two swords. And as you know, he even famously used a boat oar. He did all kinds of shit.

>court swords/small swords
You're focusing pretty narrowly on the renaissance period and later.
Medieval period absolutely duelled with spears for both legal disputes (trial by combat) and knightly tournaments.

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He wrote in his book that you should always train with two swords at least.

D&D
A lot of modern problems comes from D&D
Screw it

Musashi was also a massive troll and good at winning the duel before it started. He was defiantly a master and im not sure the 2 sword things mattered much at least in his case.

two swords are more than one.

Didn't he kill a guy while he was bowing before the duel?

He would do surprise attacks and pretend to not be ready to get the guys guard down and what not. He was not what we today think of when it comes to an horablu samurai. He also alot of times had to run away very fast after pulling shit like that after killing the other dude since his friends ussally tried to kill him. Though to be fair he embodies dueling best of all in my mind in that he realizes the most important rule. Win. Nothing else matters since if you lose your dead.

>everyone in this thread

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To be fair, he's right to make fun of frogs every five minutes

Based

What's his deal with Napoleon?

Musashi is a special case in that he's considered one of the best duelists of all time, and his game plan was psychology too, showing up late, making fun of his opponents, taking the piss, he got into their heads and had the advantage from the get go. It wasn't just because he had weeb powers from dual wielding swords

Slash a knigga twice
Slash two kniggas at once

He hates the french. The most famous frenchmen inb4 hurr durr Corsica is Napoleon icecream. So hating him is something he does. Kinnda wish he shit on DeGaulle more I fuckin hate that mother fucker so goddamn much.

>Wielding a mace and axe = has a wife and kids and set to retire by his early 40s
And the kids aren't his and wife will leave him

nigga has a sword, he cool.
nigga got two sword, he double cool

He also shat on Jeanne d'Arc IIRC

IM GOING BERSERK

>You can move the tip a lot with small movements because of the length.
But with great enough force to do serious damage? You're swinging a longer object around at the end of the day.
>It's also not easy to close in, and even if you do the spear user can mitigate the disadvantage by pulling the spear back and holding it closer to the tip.
Making it even more unwieldy to use, whereas being close with a sword gives you many more options than some dude who's throttling a spear by the neck.
>But in an unarmored context without shields the sword user is probably going to get fucked.
I really doubt that. All a sword user has to do is get by the point of the weapon without receiving a kill blow and the spear user is immediately at a serious disadvantage. If I blow by your spear point you're not doing to have time to reel it back to defend yourself poorly.
Again this HEMA bullshit is not representative. In a real battle you barely poking me with the tip of your spear is not going to end the fight, you'd be lucky to even draw surface blood with some of the gay scratches they use to end the fights with fencing style rules.

swordboo is SEETHING lads

Christ dude

I just like debating about random shit but if you don't want to continue that's fine m8, I'll go find another thread to pick a fight in

>Hating the French so he shits on Napoleon and Jeanne d'Arc
I can understand Napoleon, but why Jeanne, she was never France is great, she was God is great.

yeah but shes a french icon so she gets the sword

She was French and fought the British, that's all he needs.

well, I just looked it up online instead of asking bozos on Yea Forums and it looks like there's at least some historical precedent for dual wielding short swords

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Ironically autism is driving force of dual wielding.

Imagine this fast as fuck Chinaman coming at you with those bad boys.

how is he supposed ot be fast if he is like 160 cm?

If you can imagine a weapon it almost certainly has been used at some point in history though odds are they were very very niche. Fuck chain sword is a thing that exists.

You'd drop out of exhaustion long before your fat american legs gave you any advantage over tiny chink

Jamie pull that up

Morrow-ind is a bad game since you can't dual wield

From this nigger here en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miyamoto_Musashi#Teachings

as if gangly tall boys are any quick

You have two hands so there is no point in not doubling your attacks

Be careful using Chinese sources. A lot of their exotic weapons and fighting styles were developed for one of the later revivals of the Imperial Examinations, which was organized less for proper martial applicability and more to impress an empress who read one too many stories about ancient imperial examinations.

You ever try DMT? You should.

Dual wielding swords or weapons has been part of warfare for millennia. In gladiatorial combat in republican Rome over 2000 years ago there were dual-wielding gladiators inspired by barbarian tribes.

And to reiterate:

SHIELDS ARE WEAPONS

YOU ARE ALWAYS DUAL WIELDING IF YOU WIELD A SHIELD

You see that look on his face? He not coming home until those blades taste some white boy blood

People who think themselves history experts are some of the most annoying faggots on earth. Constantly berating anything that isn't exactly like some shit biased source or like some bullshit HEMA video that's just as good as your local LARPING group. People who bitch about combat in video games not being realistic are no better than that one faggot who dedicated an entire thread to the Romans in Rome 2 total war being slightly shorter than the barbarians

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But Romans WERE shorter than the barbarians. They even described them as "tall savages".

I watched the guy and he never stops talking about penetrating frenchmen
are all brits like this

Yes.

yes it does

The post was from this very specific autist in the twcenter who was either Italian or a Romanboo who insisted romans were actually taller than barbarians and wrote several paragraphs about this. I wouldn't be surprised if CA discards historical TW completely considering the way historyfags constantly whine about every little thing

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Math of course

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>posts "starterpacks" while complaining about annoying faggots

jej

>insisted romans were actually taller than barbarians and wrote several paragraphs about this.
kek
well he was most likely autistic and/or chinless

I always post this in any thread remotely related to history because it's easy (you)s. thanks

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he'd explode

>SHIELDS ARE WEAPONS
>
>YOU ARE ALWAYS DUAL WIELDING IF YOU WIELD A SHIELD
good point. I'm going to go ahead and claim that fists are weapons and even boxing is dual wielding.

Romans really were genuine manlet, their average was about 5'4 nearly a full foot shorter than normal humans.

Someone post the shop

Can reality?

>YOU ARE ALWAYS DUAL WIELDING IF YOU WIELD A SHIELD
the state of DnD fags

>gender history
oyyyy

If you do not have a low-key disdain for all religions that stifle the freedom of mankind then you are a villain.

Fists are natural weapons and have different rules.

If you love stats and character sheets it looks cool with two nice statted swords in your hands. Especially if they have set bonuses together.

lindy is a fun breaker
shad on the other hand weasels boobplates in plausible territory, so he is allright in my books

>pic
I feel attacked

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Holy shit why are you even coping?

>freedom of mankind
Mindless hedonism? No thanks.

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from dungeons and dragons, brainlet

Then I'm the villain boyo.

Kek dw I noticed (you) user

Seethe harder manlet

>seethe and cope
>accuse others of seething
I mean seriously, why are you seething and coping over Romans? Did they destroy your nation or something?

>But with great enough force to do serious damage? You're swinging a longer object around at the end of the day.

The point is that being able to move the tip fast makes it difficult to parry. You can feint low and hit high easily or vice versa. Also thrusting doesn't require much force against an unarmored target. A point will penetrate easily and with much less force than a cut because the force is all concentrated on such a small area.

>All a sword user has to do is get by the point of the weapon without receiving a kill blow and the spear user is immediately at a serious disadvantage.

The reach disadvantage is massive, the spear user will have a lot of opportunities to strike before the sword user will be able to do that, also it's not like he has to just stand there, he can also retreat as the sword user approach.

>In a real battle you barely poking me with the tip of your spear is not going to end the fight, you'd be lucky to even draw surface blood with some of the gay scratches

What makes you think the spear user would be just "barely poking"? Not that you even need to thrust that deep to cause serious internal damage, if anything overpenetrating and getting your spear stuck is a more serious problem - but not really in this context because it's 1v1 with such a reach advantage.

t.manlet

The Book of Five Rings is about his style of using two swords.

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There's a fair bit more to the book than that

The original Sword Art Online anime adaption is the reason Yea Forums started making fun of dual wielding.

Musashi think he slick

lmao

Two hands.... two swords....
Do the math

Didn't read the thread, but there is some historical provenance for dual-wielding swords. It was mostly done as a show of prowess, but with enough practice it can actually be really fucking good. It's only for very specific situations though, like duelling or tourneys, you obviously wouldn't use it any time there could be arrows flying. From personal experience, I know one guy who's good at it, and even he says it's not worth learning for most people.

>t. SCAfag

dual wielding is probably pretty decent against a lot of sidearms and sidearm combinations that might have been wielded in a civilian context. Sword and buckler, sword and dagger, or longsword for example. They are also reasonably easy to carry, especially if you carry them in the same scabbard. It's just that if you just used the other sword defensively, you would have been better of with sword and buckler, and using both swords both offensively and defensively was somewhat complicated and required more practice while still not being obviously better than sword & buckler and probably inferior to rapier & dagger which became to dominate in that context.

prove it

He's forgetting the main purpose of a flail in combat
to disarm someone

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>gender history
hmm I wonder who made this image

>gender history
lmfao

Musashi was a fucking alpha, he wasn't even the toughest duelist, he was just the chad who kept his cool and psyched out his opponents.
>first duel at 13 against Arima
>musashi's uncle tries to apologize to Arima at the time of the fight, out of fear for musashi
>musashi says fuck that
>grabs 6 foot bo staff
>charges in screaming
>knocks wakizashi out of Arima's hands and beats him to fucking death

one advantage that dual wielding has compared to sword and buckler/shield is that grabbing either of the dual wielder's swords or arms becomes a lot less viable because it will not prevent him from striking with the other sword. then again that applies if you have dagger in your off-hand as well, it doesn't have to be another sword, and a dagger will be better at grappling range anyway.

Gender history is actually pretty interesting

no way

Have you even held a stick? A fucking broom will show you how wrong you are.

Go outside right fucking now and reconsider your stupidity.

Please tell me in which historical period humans had genitals other than pensises and vagenes

maybe later

maybe after my chicken nuggets

>dual wield swords
>less damage apiece
why do games fucking do this

Because that's not what gender history is about you sperg. Gender history is about the roles of men and women throughout various time periods and cultures.

That sounds totally credible and definite not a made up field

Miyamoto Musashi

>1340
>still using melee weapons

youtube.com/watch?v=EvKJcxa8x_g

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_history

"God" only exists as a cheap "feel-good" placebo. It calms the nerves of the believer.
It's kinda like santa, but for adults.

"After you die, and if you haven't been naughty, you will go to PARADISE!"

>not even a Brave Fencer Musashi mention

Oh it has a Wikipedia article this is DEFINITELY a credible field and not made up

That's just sociology you neon haired tranny.

>and if you haven't been naughty
Not how it works.

and you are a medival warefare expert? There's more kinds of shield than just tower shields, retard. And another sword would only get controlled easier.

A sword is cool and dual swords is literally double that.

>Mindless
Ironic...

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Even if that is true, how is that remotely even a bad thing?

literally how it works

And why not?

I don't like the current course of the sub-field as well (very strongly focused on women currently) but I find topics like the role of men and women through time and culture still interesting.

All you have to do is accept Jesus Christ.

Not that guy but no, that's not how it works. You are not saved by your works alone.

Sociology is a joke mate.

Miyamoto Musashi probably.

>sheathe sword
>sound of metal on metal

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It's just incredibly naive, and very childish.

Believe what you want to believe, I don't care.
However, what I do care about is violent and unethical actions; forcing your beliefs onto others.

>I don't care what you believe in but actually I do care

>I don't care.
Speaking of not believing.

Yeah no one gives a fuck about your personal beliefs or opinions on the topic either FYI

>hurr-durr you're absolutely correct and rebuttal your argument but i simply can't allow that to happen Scott free
>i will ad hominem your ass
>no it doesn't show that im petty

Wow he's doing the white face

Why does it matter if it's naive, or childish, if you do it in the privacy of your own home and sets your mind at ease and gives you just that tiny bit of extra bliss?

I fucking sleep with 3 full-body sized pillows because it's comfy as fuck and incredibly relaxing after a hard day of work, I like to curl up in my blankets after a shower and just lose myself in the cleanness of the sheets. If you saw me you'd probably think I'm fucking autistic, but who cares man?

I fucking hate people like you that can't let others be happy and have to "akchtually" every facet of their lives. I think death is interesting personally, I'm not afraid of it, sometimes I'm even eager to finally know what's on the other side, but I can totally understand someone seeking solace from the fear of death in reincarnation, or paradise, or anything.

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What I mean is you have the right to believe what you want to believe.
Even if you want to be retarded and delude yourself into believing in God.

That's your right.

I understand, friend.
The facts and truth can be VERY scary for some people.

Just leave the talking to the grown ups, alright?
Thank you.

Musashi actually recommended dual weilding as an effective strategy for fighting multiple opponents.

>you can believe in what you want but ur dumm lol

>one random fedora sperging out
This was supposed to be a lindy thread

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>long sword and shield

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Because Japs didn't have shields due to their piss poor island with its piss poor metals, holy shit you weeb.

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It didn't originate in vidya though. Pen and paper RPGs have had dual wielding in. I imagine its always been a meme, because in your imagination it can come off as cool as fuck.

shields are made of wood you dumb dumb
and they did use shields in the Heian period
they didn't use shields after that period due to culture/doctrine

>Why does it matter if it's naive, or childish, if you do it in the privacy of your own home
I have literally zero problems with that, do what the fuck you want (just as long it isn't immoral). But it doesn't change the facts.

>but I can totally understand someone seeking solace from the fear of death in reincarnation, or paradise, or anything
That's because humans aren't rational by default. The simply truth is: nothingness is what happens after you die.

>just as long it isn't immoral
Now I know this is bait.

Nobody knows what's after death and nobody will ever. Paradise has as much validity as nothingness.

It is. But it's still your right.

>if I call my baseless assertion a fact enough times it will become one

>The simply truth is: nothingness is what happens after you die.

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God exists as a deterrent. People are inherently self-centered and so the only way you can stop that is with by playing on one more thing people are inherently. Cowards. "Do that and you're going to be burned alive for eternity." It was a much more reliable tool to get people to better themselves when we had inquisitors ready to remind people what hell would be like with thumbscrews, the rack, and worst of all the caveat "This isn't even as bad as what hell has in store."

I'm an Atheist, but by fuck do we need religion to stop some people being entitled cunts.

>The simply truth is: nothingness is what happens after you die.
That's your belief. Your faith. And you're hoping it's true.
You're basically religious yourself.

Man, can you imagine if an eternal afterlife is true? Imagine being conscious forever. It sounds terrifying to me.

>Th-that's because *burp* humans aren't rational by default, Morty. The simple truth is *burp* n-nothingness is what happens after you die, M-morty *burp*

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When you consider the real, physical world, it's absolutely retarded and thus irrational.

I don't understand why people can't take the reality of death. It's literally nothingness; you feel nothing like you did since forever before your birth.

fuck off proxyhohol

I like how lindy brings up the gauche in one of his videos and is then like, nope duel wielding is a myth sorry.

Yeah but if you go to heaven you could just want for a memory wipe of all your time in heaven and do it all again without any knowledge you did it all before and enjoy your fifty third first time down the milky slide of big tiddy goth girls into the arms of your waifu. as you retake her virginity over and over.

The whole ETERNITY IS SCARY argument against heaven falls completely apart when you remember amnesia. Meanwhile that makes hell utterly terrifying instead. No, what makes the concept of heaven terrifying is that it's got no milky goth girl tiddy slide, or anything fun. It just has praising God all day because he is as egotistical as any desert rat.

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No, he's not. Religion is the belief in supernatural beings, artifacts or other elements like this. Do you even know what the words you use mean, you fucking smooth brain?

It doesn't take a brain scientist to know once your meat computer shuts off so does everything else.

>When you consider the real, physical world, it's absolutely retarded and thus irrational.
>this is what an atheist thinks passes as an argument

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Renaissance Italians dual wielded swords in duels.

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>hurr durr my hobby is not having a hobby

>We can't explain consciousness
>But we can explain what happens after it's gone!

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>Religion is the belief in supernatural beings
Brainlet.

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it's kinda mean to take a picture of a chinless fatty on the bus and assume things about his religious beliefs just because he wears a dumb hat

Science is a model of nature and therefore not absolute. There's still room for other possible developments

>When you consider the REAL WORLD
>>But I believe that there is more than the real world
>BUT WHEN YOU CONSIDER THE REAL WORLD THAT IS DUMMY DUMB DUMB STUPID!
>>Yes but I'm considering MORE than the real world
>BUT WHEN YOU CONSIDER THE REAL WORLD THAT IS RETARDODUMB GAY FAGOSTUPIDIOTIC!

>>Butterflies can fly
>BUT WHEN YOU CONSIDER THE CATARPILLAR

kek

>artifacts or other elements
Of course your retarded lizard brain would distort the original post to make yourself look good. That's all you're here for.

The religious don't even HAVE a argument.
>"You see THIS book about a SPECIFIC god...?"
>"What...? no forget about ALL the other thousands of gods before this one."
>"THIS one is the real deal!"

Bro the Big Bang was when nothing existed and then all the matter in the universe smashed together making everything at once.

Ok why did that happen, ugh we don’t know.

Apparently the historical era we are in now if the mental patients are to be believed. Just think, if you started identifying as some gender you thought up the other day back even a 100 years ago you'd be dealt with in proper fashion, but nowadays people like that are called brave heroes. Where did the human race go wrong bros?

The British and French are known for being tsunderes.

Lookism.
Some people believe it isn't a real thing.

nice deflect. As long as you acknowledge you made absolutely no argument

Homosexuality is prevalent and recorded in animals in nature while human beings are the only ones who delude themselves into thinking they can will themselves into the opposite sex. Clown World

What's even more hilarious is that a Catholic priest came up with the Big Bang theory.

>It's bad to make value judgements based on how something presents itself.

Don't mind me guys, just eating these brightly coloured animals. Something about them says "Don't eat me" but that's just intolerant of me.

Rape and cannibalism is also prevalent in animals.

I mean even on the off chance that this is true, I'll go along with it because if it is true then great, we all get paradise after death and if it's not true well we all embrace nothingness and couldn't give a fuck about anything anymore

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anime

I was making the argument that one occurs in nature and other is purely man-made.

>We can't explain consciousness
>"Consciousness is the state or quality of awareness or of being aware of an external object or something within oneself"
Wow, real hard.

>Dual wielding is cool
>Japan is so cool
>Romans were manlets
>Fedora spergout
This thread is what happens when you vaccinate people. Holy fuck.

Pascals Wager lad checkmate gaytheist

Human beings are the only ones who can will themselves into flying in metal and travelling to the other side of the planet to punch native animals in the face.

How many tigers would be in Australia right now, fighting with Kangaroos, without human assistance. Face it, animals are jobbers. Can't plan ahead? Don't get a say in your future.

>meta /tg/ funposting Lindy thread derails into a fedora debate

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As an atheist I must sharpen my intellect against the dulled brains of Christfags.

>Dictionary definition
God has a definition, does that explain its existence too?

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>Cough
>Cough
>Cough
>Death rattle
Actually you're right, this thread would be better if people didn't vaccinate because you autists would be dead.

Where the evidence to support that there's more to the physical world?

>The simply truth is: nothingness is what happens after you die.
That's your belief fedora tipper, not a truth. That has as much validity as any other theory as to what happens after death, because there is never going to be proof.
Just because you claim you're the smartest in the thread and that everyone but you is an idiot multiple times doesn't make it true, makes everyone think you're a faggot

Atheism should unironically be made illegal. It can only destroy societies, just like it ruined this thread.

Wielding a sword by the blade = iq 300+

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Atheism is on the decline worldwide, mostly because the amount of Christians and Muslims keep increasing greatly.

Without them there would be no autism in the first place...

You are fucking retarded, you do know medieval theologists had all kinds of calculations and rational about what god could be or how he exists.
It's not just "a guy in the sky", it can be a more abstract concept.

>BUT WHEN YOU CONSIDER THE CATARPILLAR

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>wearing gloves
Ninny

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>as a faggot I must interfere with the believes of others on a board about video games
Sounds about right

Good. People are slowly coming back to their senses.

Nigger the only reason the people with autism is increasing is because we are developing Better ways to identify and treat it.

wikipedia's criteria for inclusion is notability, so, yes, it's perfectly credible as far as tertiary sources go. When your high school teacher told you wikipedia isn't a valid source, they meant it isn't a valid primary or secondary source for academic purposes.

Oh yeah, it's definitely not all that mercury that is getting injected into all the babies and children at a young age while still developing.

>Plebs don't know about mongols dual wielding swordsmen.

Can't really blame you guys, their horse archers scores way higher kill count.

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Fuck the fedora tipper who derailed this great thread with his faggotry. He's probably French

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It's mostly made of wood though?
Could you imagine the weight of a shield purely made of steel?

Many such cases

Why not debate a bunch of pre-schoolers then you fucktard?

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Fine.
I argue that there is no god because there's no proof and I'm not retarded.

I stopped talking to a guy once I found out he's a Rhodok swine.

T. 60Iq Cletus

god is pretty much the original waifu

>I have an inferiority complex. I get shit grades so I compensate for it by instigating religion debacles in order to delude myself into thinking that I'm intelligent.

t. nu-male

>post statue of a transcendent figure
>somehow proves it's not about belief in supernatural beings

You are retarded though, you've proven it this thread

The guy on the left looks like one of those devil trigger memes

>i hate when people use facts, logic, and reason to come to conclusions.
>i would much rather be a dirty peasant plowing the fields and dying of the plague than putting up with this shit

Sup Polfag don’t you have a yang gang thread or Trump general to shitpost in ?

Jealousy breeds contempt

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>"God (noun): what retards believe in."
I guess you're right.

>I guess I'm not a fan of the 'lots of small attacks really quickly' thing.
You must hate machineguns, then.

Aren't you supposed to be contained on some board with shitters just like you? What does your atheist I'm so smart shtick have to do with Vidya

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>he always wielded two swords.
But he didn't he mostly used all weapons from wooden sticks to fireweapons.

>has as much validity as any other theory
Is the greatest logical explanation. Are you saying we should base our arguments on logic?

>you claim you're the smartest in the thread
No, I didn't. They'll be people in this thread smarter than I, but prefer emotional wellbeing over truth.

>everyone think you're a faggot
The thoughts of others aren't my business. I'm not a bigot. Just believe what they want.

this entire thread is why there should never be practicality and realism applied to video game weapons and melee combat

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>sword and shield always tank option
>dual wield animations are shit
>no one handed option
>two handers are gigantic
Why games always have this shit again?

I would imagine a lot of those people were likely skeptical of the exist of God, but kept quiet due to being burnt at the stake.

>It's not just "a guy in the sky", it can be a more abstract concept
It depends on your religion (still retarded, however). Most mainstream religions state you have to believe in a almighty being (a guy in the sky) in order to be considered one of them. Muslims and Christians, for example.

>Thou cheeky cunt

I dunno user but I agree. There's a serious shortage of games where you can use a simple 1 handed weapon with no off hand and I can't think of a single game you get to use a tiny buckler as a sidearm instead of a giant shield

>Are you saying we should base our arguments on logic?
Logic doesn't apply to after death, it's an unknown that can never be know, for all we know the entire concept of everything we know to be true could be flipped on it's head after death
>prefer emotional wellbeing over truth
Saying something over and over again doesn't make it true
>Just believe what they want
They'll believe you're a faggot

...

>I can't think of a single game you get to use a tiny buckler as a sidearm instead of a giant shield
FFXII
Dark Souls

Where's your evidence?
Is that brown bastard Jesus gonna help you find it?

>Gender history
>Disdain for Islam
>Deus Vult
HMMMMMMMMM, WHO COULD POSSIBLY BE BEHIND THIS POST?

>facts, logic, and reason
>Atheism
Hah!

Some asshole DARED say God existed outside of imagination.

I simply had to put my fucking foot down. You know how it is.

Go away redditor.

>views history as a linear process
Hello Bolshie

No, autism is a blanket term that is just hip to diagnose problem kids with, from braindead retards to aspergers. Its a hype, same as gender dysphoria.

> Does not believe in god
> Does believe that an injected magic potion that gives him a fever will protect him from diseases

>doesn't count as learning if you don't read it in a book meme

When will boomers fuck off?

Shank one nigga twice, shank two niggas once

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>he can also retreat as the sword user approach.
And before you try to drag some baggage in here: no, this is my first post in the thread. The point here is this is ultimately a dead-end approach.

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>Logic doesn't apply to after death
It certainly does when you're alive.
>it's an unknown that can never be know
Well, because of knowledge being relative, absolute knowledge is impossible. But, that's what reason's for. It's the best we can know.

Are you implying theism is better?
Because your feelings might get hurt?

I can accept the "assassin using dual daggers" trope. That's at least somewhat practical. Anything else (dual swords, axes etc) is ridiculous.

“Don't do it”
Was the general advice given throughout history
m.youtube.com/watch?v=OIc9oWS3gdM

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>doesn't give a fuck about armor
>easily hidden anywhere on your person
>don't have to worry about battles or duels since you can just shank the motherfucker at literally any time
Daggers here, swords are for losers.

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Nice argument there projector.

Are you retarded? Fights typically never last more than 20 seconds, especially when weapons are involved. You would only have to back up once or twice, then either you'll puncture your sword attacker, or he'll be fast enough to close the gap.

Also, people are forgetting another important aspect: You can just drop the spear and punch/draw a sword if your spear gets trapped.

Also GitP is a shit-tier comic. Stop reading it.

The text is warning not to dual wield...
And if you must, use one for parrying and never attack with both or you'll cut yourself.

>>doesn't give a fuck about armor
?????

>Some French dance instructor living in the UK has an accent and talks about things, so he MUST know what he's talking about

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>literally "careful not to cut yourself with all that edge"
Dual wielders are a parody of themselves throughout the entirety of history.

>Are you retarded?
No. Are you?

>Fights typically never last more than 20 seconds
And 30 is so much more than 20, yeah.

>Also GitP is a shit-tier comic.
No, you are shit-tier.

>Stop reading it.
No.

>penetrate mail
>slip through some bitch knight's visor

it works for yanks

Lindy would sooner kill himself than live as a fr*nchman.

>Go to a "larp"
>It's actually just a bunch of people with foam and covered weapons
>Despite barely any medieval weapon fighting, pick up a spear and start copying the movements of bo-staff and spear wielders from Wuxia films
>Start destroying everyone
>Try hard that basically runs the things prefers daggers
>Tells me "oh spears aren't all that great if you know what you're doing, I could easily beat you with just this superior and faster weapon"
>1v1s me
>Rapid fire poke him twice
>Second round
>Do it again
>Third round
>He FINALLY manages to catch my spear
>Drop the spear, pantamine drawing a sword and slash it across his face
>He then gets the dagger into me
>"As you can clearly see, the dagger is superior :^)"
Dagger wielders get fucked lol.

>Reads GitP
>His only argument he can muster is "no u"
Wow. I'm so shocked. How could this have happened to me.

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Logically-challenged individuals, such as yourself, need to pipe down.

I get it, logic is a hard thing to grasp. But the adults are talking, and you need to shut your mouth.

That guy was just an autist. If you really want to use a dagger as anything more than a sidearm you need to embrace cowardliness and shank your opponent at an opportune moment, not face-to-face in a duel or on a battlefield.

>daggerstein

I read a lot of things. OotS (and not GitP, which is the site/forum/kinda author's self-labelling, as your retard ass keeps writing) is just a fun side thing that still manages to hit the right note while making fairly light-hearted fun of D&D, fantasy and tabletop in general.

Next, I actually asked you if you are and, quite unsurprisingly, you didin't say no. My condolences to your family.

I AM ANGRY
ANGRY ABOUT HORSE ARCHERS

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>hit the right note while making fairly light-hearted fun of D&D, fantasy and tabletop in general.
>Light-hearted
>It's become a /tg/ joke that every single page is a fucking novel
lol

>I actually asked you if you are and, quite unsurprisingly, you didin't say no
>You didn't engage in my "no u" rebuttle! That makes me the victor!
You must forgive user-lo. We purposely trained him wrong. As a joke.

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Do you even know what logic is?

Modern /tg/ is shit, though.
And it's "rebuttal", actually. No, it's way beyond a mere typo.

Based Lindy poster, we must salvage this thread

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>Modern /tg/ is shit, though.
If modern /tg/ recognizes how shit it is though, then you REALLY fucked up and made it obvious.

>No, it's way beyond a mere typo.
>I am so englightened by my ability to recognize that two letters are wrong, how foolish these peons are.
I also purposely misspelt "enlightened" for you too, so you can think of other reasons to eject from the conversation without having to face the fact that you're stupid.

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Fuck the French atheist that interrupted what was a glorious thread

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No.

How unsurprising.

Dual wielding is cool and it okay to like it as long as you understand it was very rare in history

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A magical man in the sky is definitely real, however...

It's time to stop dude

Cringe

Least to most cucked:
Lindy > Metatron >>> Schola > Shad >>>>> Skallagrim
This list is fact.

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Yeah, people hate the truth.
Nobody (significant majority) wants the truth, only to enforce their current beliefs (like we're doing now).

I bet your God thinks your a faggot.

SPANDAU

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logicfags ruining everyone's good time.
logic isnt a good guide for life anyway.

in fact fuck logic.

fucking shit tier rapper

Oh god, larping is fucked

>go to a larp because my friend runs it, it's set over a weekend and we can go get drunk around a fire
>first time there but bros makes me lvl 8
>choose wizard because I don't own armor
>turns out spells stack so I can just cast mage armor 20 times and be invincible
>choose some other useful shit like being able to enchant stuff and mend or shatter weapons but no magic missile bullshit
>get to actual larp
>some autist in a black trenchcoat decides he doesn't like me and challenges me to a duel
>talks about how he will use the lesser of his families weapons as I'm not good enough to stain the good one
>tell the referee while he's monologuing like a fuckwit that I disintegrate his swords
>stares at me like I shot his dog when the ref says they're gone forever
>fucker charges at me but he weighed like 9 stone so I just hold him back until he gives up and goes home
>couple of guys in the party thank me for getting rid of him because he's insufferable
>get bonus xp for beating a guy with just a level 1 spell

And then I got really drunk and woke up to a sheep licking puke off my face

Should have tripped that nigger with your spear

You sound like a cool guy
Any more stories?

I just go with the flow.
It's silly stressing over pointless details.

More like crapper!

This one time I found a nugget of shit in my bed

I have no idea how it got there. I checked my ass; no shit found.

*ahem*

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Strangely no, I don't think it's the same for guns. Though I'm not a submachinegun fan. I think it comes down to calibre, machineguns fire a bigger round.

DUAL WIELD

>321 replies

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DUO WIELD

I'll main dynamite.

>gender history
>implying hatred for islam is bad
Gee, I wonder who's behind this image

Sure, I guess.

>storyline was we were sent to protect a village from orc attacks
>occasionally get sent on patrols by our leader guy, who's bro's dad (who I learned that weekend while drunk with him is that he retired early as a doctor because he'd been caught prescribing himself morphine for years)
>get sent out with the new guys
>3 of them, 1 was a massively overweight "knight of communism" who fights for his people.
>1 was a guy dressed as a pirate and had guns. Also massively overweight but apparently believed he looked like jack sparrow.
>1 was actually dressed well in full viking regalia and was actually putting in effort roleplaying
>viking takes the lead, I chat with him. Commie and pirate trail behind.
>both of them need breaks every 5 mins of slow walking
>finally get to first encounter. Orcs attack us, I get to swing around a sword, everyone's happy
>bro asks why it took so long
>turn to point at commie and pirate, notice pirate is on the floor wheezing
>run over to help, he has asthma. His inhaler is back at the base. Quickly shout if anyone has one, someone does
>that sorted, go back to what we were doing
>commie acting suspicious. Ask viking if there was any loot.
>not that he saw
>ask commie if he checked the bodies
>face goes red and stammers no
>sigh, wave my hand and put him to sleep. Equally distribute wealth like he should have done and wake him up.
>he wants to fight me for calling him a liar.
>point out that I wasn't calling you a liar, just that you were lying.
>commie pulls out sword
>Put him to sleep again and just leave with everyone else
>has to prove himself with a challenge later on as leader man hates liars and thieves.
>later on realise he was so desperate for in game money because there was a RP brothel with some fairly attractive girls

I kind of want to be a wizard IRL, seems like I could solve a lot of my daily bullshit that way. Well, as long as nobody took magic resistance like there at least

>there was a RP brothel with some fairly attractive girls

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>RP brothel with some fairly attractive girls
the fuck, explain...

should i be larping?

Mostly girls pretending to be prostitutes/ courtesans. In the system my friend runs you can level up skills by spending dosh on training between sessions, so some girls do some ERP at the bigger sessions to level up essentially. I think it originally started from WoW, I know a lot of them play it. Each girl has a list of things they're willing to do.

I know one of them liked to be a geisha and has a whole tea ceremony thing, another had a gypsy esmerelda type setup. It was honestly really interesting and I kind of want to go back now. Edgemasters do kind of ruin it though.

As with everything, it really depends on the group. There are a fair share of hamplanets but they quickly learn they don't earn money that way and so resort to selling shitty jewelry and poorly sown leather bags.

Based.

Get trampled by a horse, rhocuck.

You just know it at least a few times went further than erp

>Knight of communism

Did he have like a red tabard with the hammer and sickle on it in yellow? I may have met him

Oh yeah, of course. I'm pretty sure one of the milfy ones was fairly open about wanting to fuck me and I probably should have. They had nice beds in the village and I was stuck in a sleeping bag in a canvas tent

Yeah, he was like 600 pounds and it looked like he was going to pass out from heat exhaustion constantly

>could have fucked milf larp pussy
>didn't
better to regret doing it than regret missing it

REMEMBER THE 600 MILLION JEWS KILLED WITH SPANDAUS...

...OR ELSE!

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True, true. I didn't because I see her every friday, she plays DnD at the same place I do

Maybe next year. Or this year, it's nearly summer again

Vagina is overrated.
What you need is a good man.

Bro does keep saying we should get married for the tax bonuses...

>Knight of communism
>Does the exact opposite immediately
I'm loving it