"Lovecraftian Horror"

Despite being the original Youtube reaction bait game, it's the first game (including actual Lovecraft branded games) to really capture this kind of horror for me. You're totally defenseless, confused, and pants shittingly scared.
That wasn't a god, it was just a minor shogoth.

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Well according to CoC RPG book, most of them, even the Old Ones can be physically destroyed by damage. It does not kill them though. Old Ones will reconstitute after years / aeons. Old Gods are basically invincible, so you wont kill those and the Moonshitter thingy was AT MOST an Old One tier.

>HURRRRRR YA CAN'T KILL ELDRITCH GODS WHAT THE FUUUUUCK
Shut up, faggot. Humanity does what it wants, get yer ayy ass back in the water, faggot

DON'T YOU SMUG ANIME GIRL AT ME YOU LITTLE SISSY BITCH BOY BEFORE I FUCK YOU IN YOUR BUTTHOLE LIKE A SMUG ANIME GIRL FUCK

Bloodborne fans are the most autistic soulsfags

She's not smug, she's dumbfounded and aroused at the same time.

Have sex, you seething Autismo

This is not lovecraftian

>finally get my first Great One Coldblood
>"use to gain cosmically nightmarish blood echoes"
>pop it and get 40,000
>about half of what you get farming Ailing Loran beasts for 1 minute
Meh

didn't Cthulhu get hurt by a steamboat?

Faggot don't make me suck your dick for talking back to me that way.

who cares, lovecraft was a hack

NO
HE WAS HURT BY THE METAPHORICAL IDEA OF A STEAM BOAT
GOD

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Kafkaesque

Upvoted, got a kek out of me.

His head got turned into mush but even that didn't kill him, only made him sleepy and return back to R'lyeh to nap

Bloodborne didn't really bill itself as Lovecraftian Horror, it's a werewolf game that ups the stakes dramatically 3/4ths of the way through.

It has Lovecraftian-inspired designs and lore, especially the best depiction of his dreamworlds I've seen, but it doesn't set out to be an adaptation of the stories.

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THAT WASN'T FUCKING CTHULHU
READ A BOOK NIGGER

I felt the same, but this brand of cosmic horror asserts that celestial kin aren't devine, but mortal organisms, more advanced in some ways and more primitive in others.

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kys

Hey, they ran over Cthulhu with a boat. It doesn't take a lot.
And the army chased out the Deep Ones from Innsmouth. Lovecraftian monsters are overrated.

They are made of meaty bits, and thus can be shot and stabbed.

Major think time

What is a "Dead lovecraftian horror" like?
Can the predicates
>"The lovecraftian horror is alive"
or
>"The lovecraftian horror is dead"
even be asserted in the first place?

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A brain parasite can still kill you even if it can't comprehend you. Maybe not you because you don't have a brain.

yeah but they're cosmically nightmarish

Who cares, World of Warcraft fucking raped the lovecraft shit for normies

Look here, fuckers.
The musket and steamboat shit isn't the point, or counterpoint, to anything about Lovecraft.
A single bacteria can kill a person. A flea can kill an elephant. It doesn't change the fact that they're bacteria and fleas. Doesn't change the fact that there are seven billion more humans and elephants are fucking astronomically huge in comparison to the flea.
Moon Presence is a pretty horrific nightmare, right? The Orphan of Kos is fucked up, right?
How many fucking "moons" do you think are in the galaxy? In our solar system alone?
Do you know how many orphans there are on our planet, across all the different species?
And on the point of Cthulhu, do you know why he's scary? It's not because he's unfathomable and undying. It's because he's JUST a priest of far more unfathomable and undying gods on some backwater planet nobody but Nyarlathotep (a fucking weirdo) gives a shit about.

It's all about scale, true, but it's not about what you think scale is.

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It means whatever the author or audience can fathom. I love me some creative concepts of "death" for old ones. Rom the retarded spider is alleged to have been a "stillbirth of the mind". The orphan is an aged baby born from a corpse in a nightmare. Formless Oedon seems to exist as an idea that possesses people. So in that light, death would be ignorance to it.

>can kill Eldritch Gods
You don't get to kill them, you become one or Accept Gehrman's offer

based, don't have sex, stay pure.
I'm watching over you.

Bloodborne flavor text is disgusting and perfect.
>"This Cord granted Mensis audience with Mergo, but resulted in the stillbirth of their brains."

You mean how in Call of Cthulhu they ram Cthulhu with a boat and defeat it?

I like the game a lot but Bloodborne fags are seriously the biggest autismos on Yea Forums. At least Smash and MGS fags have some self awareness to them. You can at least say something you don't like about their game without them frothing at the mouth

Yeah, it's really embarrassing when Bloodborne calls itself a Lovecraftian Horror, like in, uh... well, there was that one part where, um... oh dear.

No, and apparently a lot of faggots forget that the boat passes through him, he reforms perfectly unaffected, but then R'lyeh gets pulled back under the water and Cthulhu with it.

The fact that one ending has you specifically join their ranks is just as unsettling. It's not about what you see directly in front of you, but stuff you suddenly realize was always there, always watching, always waiting, you were just beneatj notice until now.

Cthulu is "defeated" by ramming a boat into it.

Well, I think at this point it's fair to distinguish between two shades of the "Lovecraftian" theme:
a)The popular one, with a salient definition and clear objectives: a bowl of expired liver stew full of tentacles, teeth and eyes that drives people mad and wants to conquer the world
b)The traditional one

We can leave it to Blizzard to exploit the first one for a couple more bucks and just ignore it while we discuss the second one.

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>You can at least say something you don't like about their game
saying "hurrr durr that's not how lovecraft works" is just retarded
the game has nothing to do with lovecraft's works

go take a shower, stinky

"Facing your fears" is the biggest theme of Bloodborne. That's why it has the most disgusting enemies clearly made to trigger phobias, while also having a combat system that rewards getting in your enemies face and beating the shit out of them.

You don't kill any of them though

Shh, don't break rank.

What lovecraft books are a must Yea Forums

>the game has nothing to do with lovecraft's works
It borrows story elements from several of them

But that's only because Japanese are creatively bankrupt so they have to steal from westerners, in order to have anything that isn't high school drama or romance of the 3 kingdoms.

What's so scary about those unfathomable gods then? They might as well be just background noise.

I want to cuddle with Kos
she is best mommy

Bloodborne story/lore makes no fucking sense. Cool game but fanboys pretend there is something there when there is not. Personally I still think Demons Souls has the best story because it is simple, coherent and killing maiden end just fits the theme/setting well.

Just a get some collection of his stories or something and most of the best ones will probably be in there
Really though, if you like his style I think they're all worth a read, he's fairly consistent in quality

>"The awful squid-head with writhing feelers came nearly up to the bowsprit of the sturdy yacht, but Johansen drove on relentlessly. There was a bursting as of an exploding bladder, a slushy nastiness as of a cloven sunfish, a stench as of a thousand opened graves, and a sound that the chronicler would not put on paper. For an instant the ship was befouled by an acrid and blinding green cloud, and then there was only a venomous seething astern; where—God in heaven!—the scattered plasticity of that nameless sky-spawn was nebulously recombining in its hateful original form, whilst its distance widened every second as the Alert gained impetus from its mounting steam."
>"—the scattered plasticity of that nameless sky-spawn was nebulously recombining in its hateful original form"
Cthulhu regenerated almost instantly after being hit with the boat

Color out of Space.

>resurects in Isz

The Chalice dungeons are set in a time before the events of Yarnham tho.

They're all public domain.

Based DeSretard

Pretty sure he is saying "Lovecraftian" means displaying just how small and insignificant mankind is.

it's inspired, but has no direct relation

mountains of madness

>killing avatars is the same as killing the gods themselves

get a load of this fucking faggot

I can make a story where Cthulhu buttfucks my asshole and I get pregnant with his children and it turns into a slice of life anime and it's still "inspired" by lovecraft you fucking retard.

You've got it the other way around, user.
YOU are the background noise.

That's from a fanfic.

user please calm down you're scaring everybody

Japan already did it m8

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by the time the hunter reaches moon presence he already snacked on 3+ umbilical cords
you cant stay human after that shit

What some perceive as a god and what is actually a god are completely different things. Eldritch abominations are destroyed or driven away all the time in Lovecraft's works, it's only the most archaic of them that are truly beyond our ken, much like Oedon. The highest level of being we interact with in Bloodborne is Moon Presence, and he can be most closely likened to Nyarlathotep, who has had multiple manifestations that could be defeated by conventional means and one time even just light. Not everything with a little bit of eldritch knowledge or power is suddenly on the same level as Azathoth itself. Patches may call Amygdala a god, but anyone who believes him is a fool.

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>Make eldritch evil that overtook the world eons ago. Can only be fought because it is at a fraction of his power and size in this very specific area
>lol no space nords fought them before, they are one of the oldest and strongest beings in the universe
>haha forget about it, space nords actually defeated them ez, but they're sore losers and damaged the landscape
>hey you remember that the reason they're eldritch stuff is because they deal with shit that's way too much for the mortal head, right? Forget about that mumbo jumbo, they're just another flavor of demons
>But what about the other d-
>THERE'S SUPER DEMONS MADE OF DARKNESS. Oh and darkness is also an element that the eldritch faggots have total control over, being spawn of that. Nevermind that everything darkness does is elementaly and not fleshy. Nice curse though.
>Then C'thun gets exor shoved up his asshole so hard the world explodes again
Given its fucking blizzard the old gods always had that zerg theme over the lovecraftian stuff, but holy shit they managed to remove all aspects of mystery with their retcon boner. Space cancer is a boring take.
They can pull off a brethren moon nicely though, too bad the company in charge has negative balls.

What about Kos?

>amygdala
>lovecraftian horrors
Guess how I know you haven't played the game?

The point of cosmic horror is not necessarily to be scary because, "ooh tentacles" but, "you're an insignificant lifeform on an insignificant mote of dust in a vast universe, and there are things that are absolutely alien to human experience out there that do not even bother to think about thinking about you and your life before sweeping you aside to do what they want."

It's not very ground breaking nowadays, when we know the scale of the universe, and we have seen our very insignificance played before our eyes through bloody communist regimes and life ending asteroids passing close by. Back in the '20s, when the world and mankind was full of the piss and vinegar that would create the 30s-50s sci-fi pulps though, it was a bleak and horrific way to look at the world.

Yes, nowadays you have the world-weary cynicism that only one jaded by the myriad facts discovered by the various fields of science, so cosmic (aka Lovecraftian) horror might just seem quaint. However, maybe if you open yourself up to a bit of wonder, and try to look at something through a different perspective, you might appreciate what it is.

Call of Cthulhu
Shadow over Innsmouth
Shadow out of Time
Mountains of Madness
Color out of Space
The Outsider

what are some good cosmic horror games

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That was his point.

Yes, but it would be shit, whereas most fans of cosmic horror, who aren't as autistic as you, love Bloodborne. Your point being...?

Just pick any at random, really.
I liked At The Mountains of Madness

Nobody cares about your meme game

>story taht's all just a dream
>boss betrays you and revealed as the antagonist (wow didn't see that coming)
>guns yet can't increase amount of ammo you can hold by a decent amount
>can't dual weild guns
>doesn't allow you to play like a tps yet includes guns
>aliens out of nowhere

The Dunwich Horror has the aspects of dread and just plain creepy if you want something less in your face

Who cares? The game looks cool and it’s fun

This is Yea Forums fun isn't allowed

bloodborne

I never understood why people thought the Soulsborne games had good writing. They are particularly bad at integrating story with gameplay. You already pointed out being able to beat the crap out of Lovecraftian entities, which is completely at odds with the themes of Lovecraft's work, but there are also other examples.

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Isn't that sort of what happens in Bloodborne? Like yeah, you can kill the Moon Presence, but that just turns you into it, which isn't that different from (and arguably as horrifying as) Cthulhu regenerating after being hit by Mr. Boat.

I guess that might have been a scary thought in his time but pretty much everyone today thinks we're an insignificant accident.

my nigga. you get it. in the same way the old one in Demons Souls is only a god to those ensnared by him. To the enlightened he may be a filter-feeding parasite, using demon-filled fog to digest human souls.

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>wahhh why is flavour text in a game designed to be light on story not the same as Torment???
Don't you have a jrpg thread to shit up?

Dark Corners of the Earth is a must, even though it's a pain in some parts

Amnesia. Maybe not "cosmic" but definitely Lovecraftian and actually scary.
Darkest Dungeon is highly recommended but I always found the presentation too heavy handed.
Sunless Sea is good.
Most games that try and tackle it (Mass Effect, Dead Space, Dishonored, etc) fail to deliver.

people like that the story is not forced down your throat and you have to go out of your way if you want to learn about the world by reading item descriptions etc
the games are focused on combat and exploration, you can ignore the story if you want

and miyazaki has said many times that he's not a good writer, which is why he's not writing their games anymore

Can you please keep this faggotry to yourself, just once.

Should have been fpbp tbqh, senpai.

Lovecraft and cosmic horror have fallen into a similar trap as Tolkien.

The protagonist in The Shunned House kills one by dumping acid on it though. It has a happy ending too.

Yeah, you at least need a boat.
Not reading the thread to see if anyone else made this joke, fuck off nerds.

>lovecraft is suppose to be scary
>has the gayest baby name that's not even scary

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genuinely cant tell if this is a joke. the description on the left is just 7 lines iterating how disgusting the thing is. it looks like a 12 year old's first attempt at writing

Holy shit Yea Forums is filled with retards

If lovecraft is so great where are all the good movies based off lovecraftian shit?

Those are the reward for playing unpatched, best blood for duping and making retarded builds.

Wasn't it revealed that it was just a finger or an arm or something of a much bigger creature sleeping underneath the house?

I can feel myself becoming less of a Bloodborne fan just because I don't want to be associated with you autists

>pic
why did you screenshot /mbg/ and post it in an unrelated thread

Adding more writing makes it more likely that it'll be good, while less writing makes the bad stand out more.

>I like [thing] less because of the fans
You never liked it from the start.

>genuinely cant tell if this is a joke. the description on the left is just 7 lines iterating how disgusting the thing is. it looks like a 12 year old's first attempt at writing

>COLORFUL PROSE BAD
>DRY WIKI-STYLE INFO DUMP GOOD

Are you blind? Both of the descriptions have precisely four sentences. Why aren't you complaining about the Dark Souls description being longwinded? The difference is that the description in Planescape: Torment make much better use of that length, to imbue the items with lots of flavor while making more creative use of fantasy aspects, whereas the Dark Souls description reads like some dry Wikia entry. The quality of the prose and diction in Planescape: Torment's item descriptions is a billion times better than the one in Dark Souls, which consists of very basic English . I have no idea how you could think otherwise.

And the developers of Dark Souls don't even trust you to piece together that backstory by yourself, since your character knows weirdly specific historial details without even having to bother to research or identify the item.

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Bloodborne fans people.

I like how you single out planescape for this, whereas the grand majority of wrpgs do the exact same fucking thing. Then again this is your lifelong crusade, so whatever.

>it's that autistic retard who can't comprehend 3rd person narration again
>inb4 he will tell me to fuck off instead of deflecting this simple fact with arguments

>That isn't how this works
That's how it works in Bloodborne.

>designed to be light on story
That's not what you Soulsdrones usually claim and you know it.

>The quality of the prose and diction in Planescape: Torment's item descriptions is a billion times better than the one in Dark Souls, which consists of very basic English
Get fucked. Typing out a thesaurus does not make you or your prose sound more intelligent than it is. Basic wording won't stop a story from being good, but long-winded purple prose can kill anything.

From my experience it's a pretty well-accepted fact that the games are indeed light on the main story, but rich on the lore.

It's all lore, the stories themselves are barebones. This has literally been one of the highlights of the series for the past decade.

Yes, you are. Tell me how Bloodborne is "unworthy" of Lovecraft's name. Show everyone how little you understand it. I dare you.

>rich on the lore
With flavour text and conversations that are "designed to be light on story"?

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>I like how you single out planescape for this, whereas the grand majority of wrpgs do the exact same fucking thing.
lolwut. Item identification and other non-combat skills are a common feature of wrpgs.

heck, planescape: torment isn't even a particularly good example. There are wrpgs that go even farther, and where you get different item descriptions depending on what party member is examining the item.

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You can kill an old god easily by punching it if you write it so

can you fucking faggots please stop using the word eldritch like you just learned it two weeks ago? it's a fucking adjective you cunts, it means spooky, it's not an affix for everything you gay ass retards think has something to do with lovecraft

go watch some more fucking youtube essays about hurr muh cosmic horror hurr muh eldritch beings ELDRITCH JUST MEANS SPOOKY, NOT WHATWVER YOU ASSOCIATE WITH IT, AND IT ALSO HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH "OLD" OR "ELDER"

FUCK OFF

Who impregnated the whore at the chapel? Was it the dweller, is he secretly a Great One?

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>that might have been a scary thought in his time
To be fair, even for his time Lovecraft was a bit of a pussy who had serious nervous breakdowns on the regular. By comparison his penpal R.E. Howard was not a whole lot better (took his own life almost immediately as his mother died) but regularly wrote Conan or Solomon Cane going toe-to-toe with some of Lovecraft's various 'mystery niggas from outer space' and still coming out swinging.

Even Lovecraft's literary work didn't really invent 'cosmic horror' (what most people call Lovecraftian) as both Robert W. Chambers (King In Yellow) and William Hope Hodgeson (House on the Boarderland/Dream of X) had written exactly that so decades earlier.

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Oedon.

Oedon did it for the lulz

>Get fucked. Typing out a thesaurus does not make you or your prose sound more intelligent than it is.
What thesaurus? Are you such a brainlet that basic terms like scratching aid, nose-picking tool and gardening trowel are imcomprehensible to you?

>but long-winded purple prose can kill anything.
Again, both descriptions are four sentences long. Why aren't you complaining about the DS description, which manages to say almost nothing of relevance in those 4 sentences.

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>this item has to be one of the most disgusting things you've seen, its so unbelievably ugly, it makes you wish you hadnt seen it, what a rotten thing it was
such good writing

how is that better than a small, concise description that lets you know more about the world and its characters?

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>SPOOKY
ebin meme, have an upward boat, my amigo who has reddit before

Yes. The main story is light. The lore isn't. There a ton of things you can connect together from the lore bits with, even without stretching things. There's an expansive lore, but you have to piece it together because it's fragmented. I don't know what kind of "gotcha" you were going for here to be honest.

You completely missed the point you fucking imp. user was saying that a game can be “inspired” by Lovecraft while still taking creative liberties with its material. Did you even fucking read the posts you were replying to?

10/10, would be friends with

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Alright, who invited wRPG-kun again?

>The lore isn't.
So deep. So expansive.

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Yes this is a video game not a book
sorry el retardo negro you lost rhis one hard

>3rd person narration
How does that explanation even make sense? RPGs are about creating a character and taking on their role, why would there be an omniscient narrator for the item descriptions?

Have you even played Dark Souls? Was there a part in the game where a narrator described how you defeated Ornstein and Smoug, or ascended to the catacombs?

Are you so desperate to defend Dark Souls that you're just making fake shit up now?

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That doesn't mean you can't still explore the idea. It's less about just how insignificant we are, but the potential for there to be far more significant things out there. Event Horizon (a film that's set in the sci-fi future) plays with that idea better than most anything that claims to be Lovecraftian.

Bloodborne's spin on eldritch horror always struck me as almost mundane. Almost every Great One in the game you fight just fights you with lasers and panicked, animalistic clawing. There was never really a point where I was like "jesus christ, that's horrible" even with the Healing Church Research Hall and consequently the Fishing Hamlet, which is supposed to be this big secret you're pursuing, the point of the DLC.

I'm definitely going to catch shade for this, but even a game like Destiny where they've explicitly said that it's "light cosmic horror," where you respond to the eldritch aliens by shooting them dead inspired more unease than Bloodborne's Great Ones. Vex lore alone with them subtly erasing their enemies from history spooked me more.

Soulsdrones, everyone. FYI, you can have in-game text and in-universe storytelling longer than one line of text that says effectively "this ring belonged to X, that's all".

How did BB get away with controversial emote?

You're welcome to slobbee over wrpgs till the end of time, what I don't get is why you're desperately trying to go around like a street preacher to everyone who isn't playing these exclusively.

As much as I like wrpgs you really need to be in the mood for them because even if they're good by fucking god they cab be a slog sometimes. You could just accept that and move on, but I guess you wouldn't be here if you were capable of that to begin with.

>Yes this is a video game not a book
?????

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I was too lazy to argue with braindead mongoloids on Yea Forums but thanks user for doing it for me.

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Wait, is that during the day? How do you do that?

Joke's on your casual arse, I play both. The only "Souls" game I haven't played is Sekiro. None of this stops Dark Souls "lore" from being fucking pathetic.

DLC, it's the hunters nightmare.

Wow this seething autistic incel is fuming
Have sex

No problem user-kun, I can’t stand these underage fucking faggots who can’t comprehend a few sentences of text. It’s like they exist specifically to get under my skin.

>It’s like they exist specifically to get under my skin.

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bloodborne isn't a horror ga

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BB for PC when? Imagine the modding potential.
If we'll never get a BB2 then modding is the next best thing.

Dark Souls is not an RPG in the same sense that Torment or Fallout or whatever are you mongoloid. It's an action game with RPG elements.
The descriptions do not mean your character magically knows that, he doesn't, it's the storytellers(authors) telling you that. Don't pretend you don't get it, because I know you do. Just like in fucking Hobbit when the narrator tells us all about the Gollum, his habits and how he looks like, even though Bilbo hasn't even reached him yet and has no way of knowing that.
You're pretending that one way of storytelling is better than others based on completely arbitrary criteria, while the truth is, you simply subjectively prefer it and there is nothing more to that than this.

"Horror with lovecraftian aesthetics" is too long for a genre name.

>which manages to say almost nothing of relevance in those 4 sentences.
but it literally says more than the Planescape description which is just using different adjectives to describe how nasty the item is

-y

>ascended
>moved upwards
>to the catacombs
>that are below the firelink shrine
get a load of this brainlet here folks

right, you need to drive a van into one while solving calculus

us intellectuals ahyuck

It's fine man, there's only ine correct way of telling a story, one correct way to showcase a world and it just so happens to be your favorite game to which every other is inferior and forever will be, at least so long as it comes anywhere from beyond the ocean. Happy?

Imagine more than 20 FPS.
I love the game but jesus fuck the performance on the Playstation is atrocious

No. I'm still stick of you drones claiming that Dark Souls has some kind of deep and intricate lore, when in fact it's a pretty straightforward and barebones setting. It doesn't even follow its own rules sometimes. Feels like people watch YouTube fanfiction and then treat it somehow as canon and intended by the creators - who, let me remind you, seem barely able to hold on to a semblance of internal consistency. It's ridiculous.

Play Souls games for what they are. Don't attach a pretentious claim that the games are somehow something more than just pretty straightforward (and pretty decently made) action RPGs.

It never bothered me. But at least 60fps would be nice.

>Imagine more than 20 FPS.
uhhh, the framerate is part of the lore, FUCKTARD

wrong.

how about reading dunwich horror

Cope

The ironing... Take your own advice and read the fucking thread, you fucking imbeciles.

Seeing as you come equipped with your prepped folder of "why my brain is better than your brain", I would never even try to start an argument with you.

>Don't pretend you don't get it, because I know you do. Just like in fucking Hobbit when the narrator tells us all about the Gollum, his habits and how he looks like, even though Bilbo hasn't even reached him yet and has no way of knowing that.
First of all, Dark Souls is not a book. Secondly, prior to Frodo meeting him, Gollum is only ever described from the perspective of characters who did meet him (e.g. Gandalf). In other words, even a fucking book doesn't have the sort of omniscient 3rd person narration you keep claiming was totally intentional in Dark Souls. So good job on totally undermining your own argument.

>You're pretending that one way of storytelling is better than others based on completely arbitrary criteria, while the truth is, you simply subjectively prefer it and there is nothing more to that than this.
No, I'm saying your argument makes no sense, because nowhere does Dark Souls use third-person narration (outside of the opening cutscenes, which is a stylistic chocie that plenty of games and movies use without having any third-person narration elsewhere). Nowhere does a narrator describe your actions. There is no interview where Miyazaki talks about the use of third-person narration in Dark Souls.

You're just pulling an excuse out of your ass, because you're unable to accept the reality that Dark Souls has flaws. Mind you, I actually think Dark Souls is a great game, so I have no idea why you're doing this.

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Bloodborne came out in 2015. why is it still consistently talked about? should i just buy the cheapest PS4 i could possibly find and play it and be done with it?

But none of your "arguments" have anything to do with the lore you god damn glueguzzler, you're arguing about the style of narration. That's 2 different, even if connected things

>Based zoomie has now entered full on COPE mode because public school failed him

>I would never even try to start an argument with you
You did, though?

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>It's fine man, there's only ine correct way of telling a story, one correct way to showcase a world and it just so happens to be your favorite game to which every other is inferior and forever will be, at least so long as it comes anywhere from beyond the ocean. Happy?

Some examples of Dark Souls 'storytelling':

>game says everyone goes hollow and loses their mind if they don't find enough humanity
>you can go through the entire game at zero humanity and never lose your mind

>dragon with an entire massive archive full of books and discovered the secret to immortality
>locks chosen undead in a cell with a bonfire and all his gear, and has a guard with the key in front of the cell door which you can easily kill since your attacks can somehow clip through the cell bars
>before he does that, he kills you, so it makes no sense that he could lock you up, since you would have respawned at the last bonfire

10/10 ludonarrative harmony. Miyazaki is a genius

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>you're arguing about the style of narration
Track the fucking convo. The argument is about the claim that the flavour text (i.e. what mostly constitutes lore in RPGs) is "designed to be light on story", while there being simultaneously a claim that said flavour text is also, somehow, very rich in lore. It's a paradox, and that's what I find ridiculous.

Ok, ill take it. Metaphor for what brainiac?

You don't respawn at a bonfire, the eagles carry you to the last bonfire and you wake up there after time

Gameplay and story segregation, retard. Besides, time is convoluted in Lordran. Seath might have turned you back in time to when you were alive, then locked you up.

She isn't truly dead as Amygdala and Ebrietas don't truly die as well. Only their physical incarnations can be defeated, and even then they may resurface again soon. The Orphan and Moon Presence as well.

>Gameplay and story segregation, retard.
How is this supposed to be a defense of the game? Having gameplay and story contradict each other is a bad thing. Sure, some segregation between gameplay and story is inevitable, but there's so much of it in the Souls games that it becomes pretty much impossible to take the stories seriously.

Soul.

>have sex
>have
>sex
>one word responses
Pathetic

>of characters who did meet him (e.g. Gandalf)
That's simply false my man, I have the book right here next to me and he's described from the perspective of an all knowing narrator
>Nowhere does a narrator describe your actions
Yes, because you do see your actions yourself so that's not needed. Instead he describes the world to you via the item descriptions, because, like you said yourself, there is no way that the character could know some of these things, so it must be a 3rd person narrator
>Because you're unable to accept the reality that Dark Souls has flaws.
That's a nice bullshit strawman right here. I'm not some hardcore DS fans, sure it has flaws, but I don't see anything wrong with its style of narration. That's the one and only thing I'm defending right here
>so I have no idea why you're doing this.
And I have no idea why you insist on appearing in every DS thread posting your bait image and shitting it up with discussion on why don't you like its style of narration.

>is "designed to be light on story", while there being simultaneously a claim that said flavour text is also, somehow, very rich in lore. It's a paradox, and that's what I find ridiculous
If you are incapable of understanding that there is a difference between the main story and the world in general, I think you're either pretending to be retarded or actually are. The games are very light on the main story but have significantly more in the lore, shit that doesn't directly effect you or what you do, but are about the world you inhabit. I can understand if you think it's dumb or whatever, but it's what it is.

what's wrong? too deep for you?

>If you are incapable of understanding that there is a difference between the main story and the world in general
WE AREN'T TALKING ABOUT THE MAIN STORY
WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE LORE/BACKSTORY, AS FUCKING OUTLINED IN I can't put this any clearer. If you can't grasp this, maybe you should git gud at fucking THINKING.

You literally can't tell what's going on in the game if you miss some of items and don't read their descriptions. The story's more barebones than Megaman if you just skip on all item descriptions.

Soulless.

And with this we're immediately back to "I don't like it, therefore it is bad".

>That's simply false my man, I have the book right here next to me and he's described from the perspective of an all knowing narrator
I have the LOTR as an e-book on my phone. Point me to the relevant passages.

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>That isn't how this works
Eldritch horrors have been killed by much more mundane things in Lovecraft stories.

Obviously, incisive wit and explosive innovation, you fucking rancid beast.

You probably got stuck at the Asylum Demon and never progressed any further anyway.

Metaphor for fighting cosmic horrors of course.

>he describes the world to you via the item descriptions, because, like you said yourself, there is no way that the character could know some of these things, so it must be a 3rd person narrator

>this game has a flaw/oversight
>therefore it must be totally deliberate and is in fact totally deliberate and therefore not a flaw/oversight at all
Do you realize how retarded you sound? You're engaging in circular reasoning, an obvious logical fallacy.

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Why didn't the Hunter just tell Gehrman that he ate three tentacles that now allow him to defy the Moon Presence?

I'm talking about the Hobbit, not LOTR
Not sure whether your edition is the same as mine, but in mine it's one of the first pages of chapter 5(4th page of it to be specific)
The narrator in the book talks in 1st person, granted, but he is an outside observer, a storyteller, not one of the characters(and he talks about Gandalf in 3rd person as well)
Anyway, this example isn't really a that good or important one, I just wanted to find something that everybody would know, whatever

>game says everyone goes hollow and loses their mind if they don't find enough humanity
>you can go through the entire game at zero humanity and never lose your mind
You go hollow when you lose your purpose to live. The reason Siegward goes hollow is because you do everything for him, leaving him with nothing to accomplish or be proud of. "Going hollow" for you is giving up, as many players have.

>Bloodborne came out in 2015. why is it still consistently talked about?

Because the people that claimed that buying a PS4 was worth it for games such as killzone, the order or infamous got a game that was actually good, so now they will never stop talking about it.

It's a 8/10.

what would that change? Gherman is moon presence slave and had to be put down

IMO coolest Lovecraft lore boss in a recent video game was Sundered's version of Nyarlathotep:
youtu.be/BRxuHToQ6RU

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>game says everyone goes hollow and loses their mind if they don't find enough humanity
>you can go through the entire game at zero humanity and never lose your mind
Hollow isn't absence of Humanity, when you go Hollow you basically give up and go mad. When an Undead has no real purpose in his life anymore, he goes Hollow. So in many ways helping many NPCs is a bad thing because you accelerate their process of being hollowed.

Because the Hunter didn't know what they would do. He just ate them because "when in Yharnam, eat umbilical cords".

Trump administration

>a sound that the chronicler would not put on paper
Thats my problem with Lovecraft : the lack of meaningfull description.
Like, hes telling us : "oh my GOD, look at how this... THING is... Scary and... WEIRD"
It never clicked for me.

No I'm not. It's simple deduction. There is an information relied to you through an item description. That means that either your character knows this or an outside narrator is telling it to you, the receiver. Since you know that first case cannot be true, because your character has no way of knowing it, it must be the second one.
You're the one making a fallacy by assuming DS way of relying info is somehow flawed without any objective argumentation behind it., other than that it doesn't fit into how you think storytelling should look like

>the lack of meaningfull description.
I never thought I'd see this as a criticism towards Lovecraft, since if anything the man has the opposite problem.

If it's not like Planescape, it's bad. If you argue with that, you're uneducated.

Deep

>meaningful
>verbose
>implying synonymous implications
t. not that user

>"Lovecraftian Horror"
>can be killed by simply burning it
ummmmmmmmmmmm....what the frick bros?

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>The Thing
>Lovecraftian

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I always thought that was a nice little bit of horror in and of itself
That the existential ponderings that terrified people in the past are something even children quickly come to terms with and accept today

The patriarchy.

>>can be killed by simply burning it

How retarded do you even have be to think this? The scene ends on an ambiguous note, implying that The Thing has infected one of the two surviving characters.

Wew that's an interesting perspective user.

>super casual friend brings his PS4 to our room in the dorm
>I told him Bloodborne is the only game worth having for the PS4, which is factually true
>obsesses over it, read up it's the best soulsborne title, hasn't played anything else in the series
>Ludwig legit takes him like three days to beat
>every fucking time I glance up at the TV while I do shit on my laptop, there's Bloodborne
>reads up lore on it, cannot shut the fuck up about it, eventually beats the DLC for it
>he's such a casual in my eyes, him beating the game ruined it for me, have zero fucking desire to play it now
>gloats about beating the hardest game in the series
>mfw
>mfw I had to play and beat Dark Souls 2 vanilla, played every single game in the series aside from Bloodborne, and beat Sekiro in a couple of days
Bloodborne doesn't even have a proper UGS, it's shit to be fair.

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>implying that The Thing has infected one of the two surviving characters
But that's just a theory........... a GAME THEORY!!!1

Things that kill eldrich beasts
Like love and friendship

Cthulhu was defeated by one sailor with a boat

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Original user here, thats what i meant.

Yes, though fanboys who mistakenly put him on Yog-Sothoth's level lie and act like it wasn't Cthulhu or pretend it did nothing instead of being part of why he was still stuck in/near R'lyeh when it sank again, dragging him down into the abyss.

>That the existential ponderings that terrified people in the past are something even children quickly come to terms with and accept today

This. Kids today know about that heavy shit. 8 year old nephew was saying "theres no god in the sky, it's just space" when me and my bro we're chilling last week playing Diablo.

it's still the best game of all time

What people like you don't get is Souls games are hard but anyone can best them do to them following classic Japanese RPG design.

It goes back to Dragon Quest. Yes you may die alot if you suck but play it enough and your level will eventually make the game a cakewalk.

Think about it you don't really lose jack shit once you realize all death does is make you lose your current unbanked XP. Once you get used to just using your XP ASAP any souls game is tame as hell.

What about Sekiro, where the only way to level up is to kill bosses?

So did you congratulate your buddy by letting him plow you afterwards?

IIRC he killed the creature with acid while it was basically slumbering and that was it. There wasn't a creature farther down, and I think it was a sorcerer who mutated himself to boot.

LMAO
Did you forget the literal XP bar and skill trees, you fucking idiot?

>Using ugs in any game
Wow, so original. greatswords and Ultras ruin combat for alot of player because they are so one dimensional. If you use these weapons, you haven't really played the game

You are only killing their physical manifestations, their real existences are on another plane.
Not surpising that so many insightlets ITT cant comprehend.

The skill trees don't increase your HP and damage, they just unlock new moves which are all situational, and a variety of passive effects.

Please stay on-topic.

Souls games aren't hard, lmao. That was never my problem, just that a casual dude obsessing over something made it look bad in my eyes and now I don't want to play it. You've never had that happen to you?

You don't need to level up at all to be able to beat any Souls game, the only exception is Dark Souls 2 where not leveling ADP will make you have an aneurysm half-way through. DS2 in general is just THAT retarded.

s-sure

They make the game more challenging and necessitate getting good, yes. I bet you're one of those DEX sissies who can auto-combo a boss eight times before they wind up a swing. If you beat any soulsborne game with a DEX-like weapon, you're a strict basic bitch and haven't experienced the game at all.

That's because you're a literal pleb. You're one of those people who dislike horror movies because they don't show the monster in full daylight at all angles.

>LMAO

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>revealing the monster is a binary choice

The game is all a dream, you don't actually kill anything. How else do you think you're able to revive after death? Did you think "blood echoes" were actually a thing? Or that the character was really able to carry a hundred swords up their ass?

>single most important ability in the entire game
>"lmao that doesn't count"
I'm 1000% on-topic. That user claimed you can eventually cheese through Soulsborne games by leveling indefinitely, and I'm right.
I recognize this meme.

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No, kids parrot shit they heard on r/atheism or in movies and games. They have no actual concept of their own mortality or the existential dread of coming to terms with how insignificant you are in the world.

Nigga greats swords and shit are boring and slow as hell. You do the same fucking slow move set for every fucking enemy, and your windups and on you power attacks take so long and are so nonoptimal for dps that r1 spam is litterally your only option. It's like you LIKE having no variety in engagements

But the skill trees don't unlock anything that let's you cheese the game... just admit you haven't played it

The fuck do you use that you can do something other than R1 or the occassional parry?
>and your windups and on you power attacks take so long and are so nonoptimal for dps that r1 spam is litterally your only option
If you're a casual who can't use the weapon in a way that introduces some variety, don't cry about it having no moves. You don't really need anything other than R1 with a UGS, that's correct - because UGS is fuckhuge and for real men. If I wanted to see a sissy dance around with his thin sword in his hand, I'd peek into your basement window.

TL;DR
>Things that never happened
nice blog nigger

Iffen you'd paid attention, you'd know they don't actually die unless you kill them in their dream/nightmare. Seems like a fair compromise to me.

You fucking Bloodborne babies are so boring, like a broken record.

The Hunt is a dream state. You're in the real world at the beginning of the game with the blood minister, and at the end if you pick the easy ending. All the entities in the game are real consciousnesses.

Way to not actually know what was going on in the game at all.
Also
>Videogame mechanics should be taken literally!
You're pretty silly.

The Pikmin games. Unironically.

u mad?

sure

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Bite my ass, contarian faggot

Never thought about it like that, but you know you might be right.

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Mechanics are as canon to a game's story as the words of the script. They cannot be separated, much like the visuals and editing techniques of a film tell the story as much as the dialogue.

no
do not do this
the gurm were never hunters, only miners.

Call of Cthulhu 2018

>Bloodborne comes out
>everyone suddenly becomes an expert in lovecraft and horror literature
Classic Yea Forums.

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Underrated

He is so great that nobody can properly use his work.

Isn't Lovecraftian horror always about hitting and stabbing silly looking monsters until it dies?

Just fight it until you win.

Color out of Space is his best
Pickman's Model is great
Rats in the Walls is GOAT

Fuck off. Are games like Metal Gear a dream because "how would Snake carry all that gear?" Bloodborne can also write it off as the Messengers handle all your weapons anyway.

>Live with some weird weeaboo
>He's like 400 pounds and doesn't shower more than once a week
>Get a PS4 so I can play FIFA with my actual friends
>Weeaboo snorts at me that bloodborne is actshually a really hard game that my poor misinformed casual mind couldn't understand
>Go out and pick it up for 20 bucks
>Have fun playing it and really get into the lore
>Try to tell roommate about it but I can see tears of jealousy in eyes because he can't afford a 200 dollar console and lives off autism bucks
>Takes me a while to beat the game but I have a blast
>After I do I hear autistic shrieking from my roommates room as he cries himself to sleep repeating HOW COULD A SIMPLE CASUAL LIKE YOU DO IT, YOUVE RUINED EVERYTHING FOR ME

This is why I say difficulty is subjective and depends on the person, I never found the Souls games hard, once my cousin found out the obvious pace that the game wants you to have and it became a cakewalk for him.

I want to get into the Souls game after finishing Bloodborne, but I heard mixed things about Dark Souls 1 and 2. Should I directly start with DS3 even if I risk to lose some lore along the way?

Eternal Darkness: Sanitys Requiem

>tfw thread is already so long that if i actually gave op the answer no one would notice or care...

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You start with DS1 you retarded fuck.

tell me im fucking wrong nigger.

Fuck off.

Most games are poorly written.

Start with DS1
Everyone telling you otherwise is either a kid or a retard

>enemies are lovecraftian horrors
>punch them to death in a giant Abraham Lincoln robot

r u ok retard?

The character is god-like. How fucking hard is that to understand

Muskets are fucking insane. Just compare the size of the bullet to a modern one

Bloodborne is the best lovecraftian game ever made
DeS > DaS > DaS3 > DaS2
Sekiro is the best From Software game
Thanks for the replies

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what's lovecraftian about is is that you can't really kill it. It was frozen for ages and it was still alive

No one knows where it came from
No one knows what it really looks like (since it's only seen mimicking other creatures)
No one knows if there there is/are more if it out there in the cosmos
No one knows how old it is
etc

It's a saw wielded by a superhuman and a gun with magic bullets.
The dunwich horror was taken down with far less than that

Muskets are lanklets of rifles
>huge
>bulky
>launches massive projectiles
>kinetic energy is nothing special
>would break apart if subjected to strain of modern normal-sized firearms
You're better off with a pipe shotgun

>>based on a true story
>its a bunch of actors and scripted

Wooooow wtf!??

Bloodborne>Dark Souls™: Remastered>Dark Souls™: Prepare to Die™ Edition>Dark Souls>Sekiro™: Shadows Die Twice>SotFS>DaS2>DeS>DaS3>DaS3>DaS3 DLC

Throwing Sekiro in there is like comparing Warcraft and Diablo

>DS Remastered better than anything
Retard

Just stopping by to make sure you know i got a good laugh, thanks.

This, the best way to tell that the game is not worth your time is seeing the word "lovecraftian" anywhere near it.
Even zombies aren't as bland as cthulhu.

So far I read The Lurking Fear and it was a lot less impressive than what I expected, but about as racist

That isn't a Lovecraftian Horror, that's some relatively tiny ugly spider monster. You kill them by the hundreds in most games, with whatever weapon you have on you.

So what are these gods anyway? Where do they come from?
I tried getting into Lovecraft, bought his full collection, but goddamnit his writing is so shitty, I feel like I'm reading fanfiction. Maybe that's because I'm reading it in the order it was written, maybe he becomes a better writer later on.

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Thar's like, not even in top 60% of his best known stories, why the hell would you start with that?
Begin with the big names
>Call of Cthulhu
>Shadow over Insmouth
>Rats in the Walls
>The Colour out of Space
>Mountains of Madness
>The Music of Erich Zann
>The Haunter of the Dark
>The Case of Charles Dexter Ward
>maybe The Dunwich Horror
Read some of those, then maybe move to his oniric stories. Also the better known ones don't have nearly as much racism in them

Lovecraftian horror deals with humanity's place in the cosmos and the dangers of obtaining knowledge. It has nothing to do with le epic unkillable gods. Read a fucking book instead of getting 100% of your literary knowledge through pop culture you stupid nigger. Also, Oedon.

Shadow over Innsmouth and Dunwich Horror I really liked. Despite Call of Cthulu being his "big hit" I found it really underwhelming compared to those two

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>Despite Call of Cthulu being his "big hit" I found it really underwhelming compared to those two
Yeah, honestly I think the same. CoC is decent but I wouldn't put it in top 5 of his works, not even sure about top 10. It's still a good read though

I've read maybe 2/3 of his short stories, but they never impressed me much. He has a talent for setting the mood, but the rest is very, I don't know what to call it, unremarkable? The only one of his short stories that I genuinely loved was Kadath.

The part where the things in innsmouth are trying to get into his room still makes my heart race even after a couple rereads

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Yeah, I kind of get what you mean. Still, I really like him and his stories do manage to strike some fear in me once in a while, even though I definitely wouldn't call him a 10/10 writer

I have only read the Silver Key from that cycle so far but I think I prefer Randolph Carter's point of view, he seems genuinely excited about all the weird shit going on in the universe instead of freaking out about it.

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Can’t make much sense of Rom without that idea, though, unless you mean like some form of “astral projection” - which wouldn’t make much sense, and assumes a lot like Moonside Lake Rom “having all the power”.

There’s also the precedent set by touching Laurence’s skull; chalice dungeon rituals being elaborate “old blood acid trips” synced up for me.

Unless it’s Dark Souls 2, then you go hollow because you didn’t have enough souls. It’s like they didn’t understand how ‘hollowing’ and being Undead worked.

>"Lovecraftian Horror"
>can't even touchey godess

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>remastered better than original

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>not including The Dream-Quest of Unknown Kadath
I don't know how he did it, but when he describes that giant rock next to the mountains, it scares the absolute shit out of me everytime.

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Dream Quest is good, but not really something I would recommend for starters

Not saying this is wrong but I'm fairly interested on how it is?

>it doesn't set out to be an adaption of the stories
Fishing Hamlet is literally an adaption of Shadow Over Innsmouth.

True enough. Funny that the other user you were discussing with didn't find CoC that amazing - I like the bit where he's describing how the geometry of the sunken city unnerves him, but the chase at the end is very pulpy (which is fine, but doesn't scream classic Lovecraft to me). I much prefer Colour and Dunwich. I think the Carter ones are my personal fave, it's like Lovecraft mixed with a bit of Shin Megami Tensei sometimes (when he's "talking" to gods and such, it becomes so...darkly spiritual? I'm not sure how to describe it). He's very good, it's become fashionable to hate on him for being hammy and being racist imo.

>everyone today thinks we're an insignificant accident
Christians don't.

Underrated

That was Kosm

Cthulhu gets knocked out by a tugboat and the Elder Things die as easily as a human. If you think Lovecraftian horror is about everything being all powerful you probably haven't read any Lovecraft.

I'd say it's contrasted in the gameplay a fair bit, but the universe of Bloodborne is probably the best representation of an actual "Lovecraftian" setting with all the lore about things beyond mankind's perception and the pursuit of them, people being driven insane all the time, weird cults that worship alien deities and probably other stuff I'm forgetting.

but it is and only contrarian old good new bad morons say otherwise.

They try to deny it, but it creeps on them through science and morality they're forced to learn when integrating with normal people.

The Shunned House

The entire point is the "Gods" on the planet are weak, sickly, newborns, or otherwise vulnerable.

The church et. all tore themselves apart over what were effectively the lower rung of the cosmic order and countless people drove themselves mad trying to understand or become like what amounts to a blip on the power scale.

Here we go

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we fear what we do not know

The fact that the Great Ones can be killed with mundane weapons is key to the story. The idea that they are Gods is just a matter of perspective; humans view them as such because they have power and knowledge, but that doesn’t make them that superior, merely more advanced and resilient. Generally speaking they are all still physical creatures that can be hurt and killed. Elevating them to objects of worship is a demonstration of the folly of the human characters.

the game

Read C.S Lewis Space Trilogy

Do you guys think the Old Gods in WoW do the label of lovecraftian horror justice? I think they're pretty good characters considering the format

You just summed up this planet lol

Alien creatures, some incomprehensible, you're tiny and clearly there's bigger forces at play that you can't possibly hope to understand, impossible geometries. The games are great.

Prove to me your right, am still here bitch nigga

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Why are fedoralods still a thing when Richard Dawkins himself already took his fedora off and said Christianity is okay, benign to the West and a powerful ally in fighting Islam?
Since you like feeling significant try looking up Scholasticism, a method of critical thought about one thousand years old developed to defend Christian faith. Christian philosophers have already rationalized everything, including humanity's supposed insignificance in the vast space, and transformed all that in culture such as books and music.

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these high-insight fellow anons get it
hell, even the Hunter becomes a Great One in the end, that goes to show these abominations are no gods but rather, just a higher stage in evolution

>christtards found excuses for problems that clearly reveal flaws in god's plan
>therefore the problems don't exist and perfect god is allowed to keep fucking up

By the end of the game I was expecting the massive moon to be giant fucking eyeball or something that was watching me the whole time.

The king in yellow
The house on the borderlands

When did Dorkins say that?

Demon's Souls did lovecraftian horror the best.

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>christtards are STILL seething over le meme atheist dude

Blood, which is the essence of Oedon, reinforces the weapon and gives it godly powers.

>kill the offspring of an eldritch god with a rusty saw and a musket
> WHO'S THE BIG MEAT NOW MOTHERFUCKER

Kirby franchise.

>rusty saw and a musket
>not using bare fists only
That isn't how this works

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Which Lovecraft book should I start with and does it have an audiobook version? Got an eight hour drive (and back) in a few days.

>atheists still mad about a certain hat
lamo

>left is maximum Purple Prose
Yikes

>Why didn't the Hunter just tell Gehrman that he ate three tentacles
Because even the Hunter doesn't know what entails if you consume the cords, other than having eyes on the inside.

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They're usually short stories. Can be read anywhere from 20 mins to an hour.

He has been saying that repeatedly over the past years, google "richard dawkins christianity islam" to see him literally defending christianity from some political attacks
In short he concluded Christianity brings the best out of most people and serves to shield the West from Islam. So he has no faith but wants to keep Christianity around.

Cognitive dissonance from judging men living in the past by their commonly held beliefs by the standards of the modern era held by people who will inevitably be shocked, shocked I dare say at being judged by future people by their future standards. Creating an endless cycle of pointless historical lynchings of so many skeletons.

There also all in YouTube with various narrators due to public domain.

Pick your poison.

>king of the fedoras
>not deserving of mockery
Nobody is forcing you to believe in Jesus.

Found
>H.P. Lovecraft - The Complete Fiction Omnibus Collection, Second Edition
On Audible, free with a trial too. Sounds good, guess I'll listen to that.

Here man, here's a summary of every Lovecraft story.

>I went to check out some shit I was told was weird by a lunatic/letter in them mail/mentioned in a newpaper article
>What a weird place
>That's fucking weird
>Oh shit its [writer implies the thing not ever described directly sent the writer mad, so we never see it]

>still seething mad over a dude just because he said it's irrational to believe in stories without evidence to support them
>didn't even bother reading his books, just hates him based on memes

Woah... Pyramid Head... Lay off the carrots...

This guy gets it.

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All I'm saying is that if you're a fag about it people will call you a fedora. That's the consequence of your actions. You can either remember it or go on Yea Forums and tell others they're ding-dong diddly seething whenever you get your feelings hurt when you're called a hat.

True for the horror stuff.

He was a pulp writer. They were paid by the letter. Lovecraft used that to his advantage by building atmosphere with his words for terror.

Anyways. I like his other short stories that aren't as horrific.

The tomb
Beyond the wall of sleep(really enjoyed that one)
The white ship
Polaris star(it was basically mocking him)
The alchemist

They dont get near as much attention from people always sucking cthulu ethereal dick.

call of cthulhu dark corners of the earth says ... NO

>uses the term "lovecraftian" unironically
>talks about the "rules" of his lovecwaaftian cinematic uniwewse

not even going to post the wou jak for this one

>s-someone called me out on bullshit! quick, better pull out the meme hat and make myself look like a jackass!
You can't even bring up a single thing Dawkins was wrong about, you literally hate him just because he's the other side and dared to question the validity of your dogma.

Dream Quest of Unknown Kadath was my favourite. its basically an exhibition of sorts, referencing locations explored in his other works. pretty comfy

cringe

Where there any horny eldritch gods who conceived children through unwilling human surrogates in Lovecraft's works?

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I never said anything about hating the man. I'm not sure how you came to that conclusion simply because I called him and you both fedoras, which is true regardless of the strengths of his arguments.

there are many good stories my favorite is "the outsider" and "at the mountains of madness"

thers in not mutch horror in it ike in other lovecarft storys its more like hes talking about the story of a deserted place that died ages ago

and outsider lets just say what is normal

You’re right, it’s better

Better to fight madness then to wallow in it, especially if this is a video game

>It was everywhere - a gelatin - a slime; a vapor; - yet it had shapes, a thousand shapes of horror beyond all memory. There were eyes - and a blemish. It was the pit - the maelstrom - the ultimate abomination. Carter, it was the unnamable!

Lovecraftian themes don't lend themselves well to visual mediums like film because they revolve around the theme of human incomprehensibility. How would you make a film about something that is unfathomable without either showing it and therefor making it fathomable, or not showing it and leaving the vast majority of modern audiences - the same people who rush to see the latest jumpscare flick - dissatisfied.
I remember when The Mist came out in cinemas (Steven King I know, but you can argue this was one of his most lovecraftian-esq works, or that the film adapted it to be more lovecraftian) and the vast majority of the complaints I heard were that the film "didn't do a good job of explaining things" and "We never got to properly see the monsters". The movie's own faults aside, the fact the "threat" was so obscure was the whole point and a lot of people either missed that or just didn't want that.

The other major reason is that some of the stories just make for shite films. Can you imagine what a modern At the Mountain of Madness would be like? Two hours of some guy walking around some weird caves and giant CGI penguins.

logic and reason.
the saw is used to unearth the unknown and the musket represents technological development that allows man to literally arm itself against ignorance

>but it doesn't set out to be an adaptation of the stories.
Iosefka imposter is definitely a reference to Charles Dexter Ward

Why would I wanna play a game that just simulates my helplessness in reality?

first off, you're fucking retarded for buying stuff that's public domain
the Great Ones aren't gods and they come from outer space, or "the heavens" just like the fabled mineral Siderite

Based

Nice.

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>you're fucking retarded for buying stuff that's public domain
How so? It is the price of convenience. All stories are reunited nicely in a good edition with a beautiful cover and high quality paper. Then I can put the book in my shelf after reading.

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>"Lovecraftian Horror"
>All they got from Lovecraft's writings is that there are big spooky monsters who also happen to be aliens
From went full fucking brainlet

Wow I 100% agree with this opinion though depending on my mood DaS2 > DaS3 sometimes

>allows man to literally arm itself against ignorance

Wtf, ignorance of the true nature of cosmic horrors is what keeps you alive due to your inability to comprehend their nature. Do you even Lovecraft?

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Isn't that pretty much what happens in Dunwich Horror? Been a while since I read it

Do you honest expect anyone who thinks Bloodborne is good Lovecraft Horror to have actually read any of his books? Bloodborne is the entry level of the entry level of Lovecraft. All they understand about his writing is the big aliens who are basically gods and the gore.

>you're fucking retarded for buying stuff that's public domain
What's wrong about buying a nice looking edition that's comfortable to read and looks good on my bookshelf you retard?

Yeah. Although it was more of a ritual by her father instead of in Bloodborne where all of a sudden the whore gets pregnant out of nowhere.

Not really.

A game where the enemies couldn't be seen or killed would've been so much fun right

>how it works
its a fucking game
go do something on real world retard

I was just shitposting user, trying to show how easy it is to ascribe meaning to shit

Ok you got me then

Bloodborne's Great Ones cannot conceive children themselves. That's the entire premise of the game. So, they scour for a suitable surrogate and impregnate them, and it is implied, unwillingly. A criterion for the woman to be suitable is that she has to have "corrupted blood". Arianna and Queen Yharnam are two cases that the game implies this concept to us. Those who do, end up birthing celestial larvae (as seen with Arianna), which over time grow into something akin to Ebrietas (both the celestial children and Ebri have similar morphology). Given time, they ascend to higher physical planes of existence as true Great Ones, but in the case of poor Ebri-chan, she's left all alone in the Waking World. It definitely seems to lend credence to the r/K selection theory, whereby the more complex an organism is, the less offspring they conceive. Great Ones are so beyond complexity that they simply cannot birth children themselves. Miyazaki conveyed this in an interview some years ago too.

Also, to note: Ebrietas is the name of a genus of butterfly. I find it pretty fitting, desu.

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>be a cosmological horror
>completely beyond the scope of human minds
>able to exist in multiple dimensions at once
>all other lifeforms are like insects to me and easily bent to my will
>basically not even a lifeform myself anymore
>Was chilling in my own little reality until some guys taking vampire cosplay too far put me in a tower
>Don't give a shit, just make the place more homely for myself
>suddenly, see some foreign looking guy running towards my tower with a sword
>give him a few blasts of my pure KNAWLEDG so he goes away
>he's still trying to get to me
>has what looks like a block of concrete attached to his back
>it's not even, like, attached to him it's just on his back wtf?
>Before i know it, he's at some lever
>pulls it
>the part of the tower holding me up gives way
>I fall
>who the fuck built this fucking tower
>few minutes later i'm in some fucking dark pit
>can't do shit down here
>foreigner runs up to me again
>just stands infront of me doing this weird pose
>give him a rune, maybe he'll finally leave me alone
>puts his sword in his concrete block and starts hitting me
>i can't do shit anymore for some reason
>kills me
>runs up to some lamp and vanishes
>mfw

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I always thought you weren't killing actual great ones but their spawn or the very weak ones that were left behind, Oedon seems to be the only "true" great one that cannot even be comprehended and can impregnate by voice

I'm playing both these games and DCoE is kinda shit with bad voice acting, ruins the experience
CoC 2018 has shit voice acting, ruins the experience

underrated

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Cthulhu isn't a god he's just a priest.

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They're symbolic and not real, nothing is real

cthulhu isn't a god, he's a high priest

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>HOLY SHIT IT HAS MULTIPLE LIMBS AND NO EYES
>HOLY SHIT IT HAS TENTACLES AND SO MANY EYES
>DUDE ITS LOVECRAFTIAN

Dumb zoomers

Lovecraft is actually a pretty shitty writer. Only reason zoomers like talking about him is because he made a racist quote.

>A single bacteria

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The combined powers of your character and mostly you as a player get fused into the weapons that allow you to defeat them

Cute pupper.

The Good Hunter is himself boosted by an Eldritch god you dunce. He is powered by the Moon ie the Moon Presence.

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Kosm died of natural causes and then washed up on the beach.

Right.
You stop should stop the music the unfathomable gods play to keep azathoth at bay.

>>boss betrays you and revealed as the antagonist (wow didn't see that coming)
What did he mean by this?

>tps nigger
Yikes!

fucking dunce

>eldritch being from beyond the stars
>looks a lot like a human

Reanimator movies, From Beyond , Dagon. Lovecraft is made for B/C tier movies.

Cringey post

you sound like a fag

This. Bloodborne is my favourite anime

>muh hard gaem
Turbo fag detected.

can you imagine how bloodborne would've turned out if they made it?
>say no to gherman
>moon presence channels a red lazer into him turning him into a 30 foot tall bulk covered in red and black spikes

The dweller dindu nuffin. He's the only good person in the game.

BASED

No, it's like hating a horror movie for never showing the monster at all

>tfw some retards like think "lovecraftian" is either squids with legs or planet-sized monsters
>while it can be literally anything that's alien and not even intentionally hostile towards earthly nature

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"muh incomprehensibility" is shit
weird shit that's a little difficult to describe >>> nonsense about imperceptibility

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Defeating said abominations isn't that big a deal if you can keep your head on straight. Just killing your abomination of a god with some rain and a rollercoaster.

youtu.be/PGZevVdjoUU?t=108

>literally
No.

The N-word
It cuts and assblasts

Really nigguh? I liked Destiny's setting but jesus, it inspired more unease from you?

>You've never had that happen to you
No because I'm not a retard that's easily influenced by brainlets.

DaS2 is only for people with high IQ. Ppl who enjoy 5 dimensional chess in the form of a video-game.

>which is factually true
If you are a casual maybe.

temple
rats
dunwitch
innsmouth
colour
song
mirror
randolph
tomb

it would be nice, but since sony funded pretty much the entire game it probably won't happen

>Dishonored
Dishonored doesn't try to tackle it, it's in no way an horror game.
Like at most you can say that some aspects of the Outsider cult remind you to the cults in Lovecraft stories but Dishonored is clearly not lovecraftian or try for any kind of cosmic horror when the god followed by cults appear before you and has a clear human aspect and conscience (although affected by being an inmortal god).

Maybe William Dyer just wasn't trying hard enough.

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Lovecraft is one of the most larped but least-read authors of all time. Illiterate zoomers watch videos about Lovecraft's works but have never read a single one of them, and it is painfully obvious.

It's an inherent flaw with the genre of horror. You're not meant to have a point of reference to be able to explain or perceive it. It's outside of what humans evolved to handle. So things like "squid-head" and "like 1000 open graves" kind of damage that, while also offering the only way for us to connect with the words on paper.
In order to really get the most out of the sub-genre you'd need a medium that worked entirely through suggestion and insinuation. Like you just hook it up to your brain and feel intended emotions or ideas that aren't formed into language.

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Because of the blood oath thing you got at the beginning, you stopped being a normal human.

Oedon's invisible girthy dick.

At the very least Lovecraft tried. Its amazing how many horror monsters are just DnD Enemies but you don't have a sword.
The Wendigos from Until Dawn especially stand out as monsters I've seen from a shooter or RPG before.

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Mountains of Madness
Shadow over Innsmouth
The Thing on the Doorstep
E.Y.E: Divine Cybermancy

Rats in the Walls is still my favorite story and there isn't a single old god there.

In Dunwich Horror a group of professors banish an Elderitch Horror (lol an action scene watched through a telescope).

I think A Color Out of Space and Call of Cthulu are the only ones that I felt the horror could not be beaten, only delayed.

I think most of the mythos in popular culture comes after Lovecraft gave up the ghost, handled by people who couldn't grasp his ideas as well as him.

Never made because hollywood is full of plebs who would butcher a movie adaptation.
>Hurr let's make mountains of madness an action flick lmao XDDDD -t. Del toro
No

Colour Out of Space has had several adaptions.

A metaphor for my dick in ur mum lel.

We're starting to run out of things to be afraid of. There's a big untapped well of them but 99% of people wouldn't be spooked by it. It would all be conceptual and you'd need to sort of dwell on the idea for a long time instead of just having it in a game or whatever.
Like a "monster" that is just the concept of a light source going out. Implied to be semi-sentient in a more mechanical sense. Sounds fucking stupid and I'm just spitballing but that general line of thinking for spooks. I think that's why SCP was so popular. It gave a framework and context to less immediately understandable spooks. Like skeleton = death + moving = aaaaahhh is immediately understandable. Some SCP like the one that chases you down if you see his face are like this, but some were also more out there like the one that just wants to eat technology.

>thinking the item descriptions in Souls games are from the character's perspective