Discordfags and shitposters aside, is he REALLY thy bad of a choice?

Yes, yes, that's all good and whatnot, Stevefags.
HOWEVER

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>but he's really just an avatar
Damn bros, I can't believe Villager isn't in...

really don't like how the game look

Not a reason

People hate the thought of him stealing autism bear's spot.

Rosterfags don't like him because he's basically the ultimate shill pick, minecraft is so mainstream that they seeth at the sight of him.

I guess that’s good considering smash is 100% about gameplay and function. Being “well written” means jack shit in smash.

I honestly just find him really visually unappealing. I don't have a deeper reason than that.

because i fucken hate minecraft

The character isn’t important the skins are

Compare that to Mii’s, I like Steve they are considered a separate person

You don’t get more mainstream than mario.

fuck off tranny

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>E3 2018
>Minecraft content
>In the base game
>ok maybe it’s DLC
>Ok he’a definitely Fighters Pa-

>”We haven’t started any of the DLC yet”

>HE’S IN OKAY I HAVE A TRUSTWORTHY SOURCE GUYS

It’s less about him being a bad pick and more that nobody have a shit until a leaker said so

Why do people keep saying he’s just some blank avatar? Yes, you can change your skin on him and ignore everything, but Steve as a default is an actual character. He’s a man who’s stranded on an unknown land. He’s disheveled and unkempt due to his predicament. His name is also a reflection of how he’s supposed to be a regular ass guy who’s surviving off of his wit and skills alone. He’s the everyman, and you don’t get more normal than “Steve.”

He really doesn’t get the credit he deserves.

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>bans Notch splash in Minecraft but not the Yea Forums one

if they're gonna whine about """white nationalism""" maybe someone should give them the ultimate redpill

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I'm not expecting the characters to be very well written. Stuff like animation or personality, help give the character life, Steve lack that, unless you want to use Minecraft storymode stuff, which could work I guess

I don't really think there's any good reason to hate aside from him looking terrible in game if Nintendo can't really change his design. A simplistic 3D character would be really jarring. He's unironically a better choice than shill Pokemon or FE rep #10

>thing is bad because I don't like creator of thing

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>using storymode trash
Fuuuuuck that. That shit is cringe as fuck. Steve really doesn’t need “life.” The uniqueness and charm of him will come from his limited animations and joints. Having his arms and legs stay stiff, and his face mostly emotionless adds a lot of charm to him. It’s sort of similar to G&W.

i think hes being ironic, i mean hes using clown pepe

I'd argue since he's such a blank slate that I would say, bring Banjo, Chief, Cuphead, whoever the fuck as the main fighter, and have Steve be a Mii costume, and possibly a minecraft stage

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>04/13/19
Game and Watch isn't jarring?

The story mode is shit, but having limited animation only for Steve will be tough to work with, for G&W case, there's multiple frames they can use from each G&W

We love Steve
We also love kazooie

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Somewhat, but Game & Watch isn't jarring in a way that his model is ugly. Steve would be jarring in the same way playing with Smash 64 models along with Ultimate models would be. He just looks bad outside of his own game. I would rather have grotesque steve if anything so he doesn't stand out so much.

He's not an impossible choice, Wii fit trainer, Villager, fucking Pac-man and the Plant have basically shown that no one is impossible, but he's also one of those potential picks that just doesn't mesh right when you think about it.

Now don't get me wrong, if they do add him you can be sure that Sakurai will at the bare minimum make him fun to play, but it's hard to imagine him in a fighting game. It's like if they threw in a random Lego man.

But to be perfectly blunt I don't care if he gets in or not, I'm just tired of constant shitposting threads about rosters and other bullshit. I want to talk about smash as a game, not as a toybox.

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>for Steve will be tough to work with
Naaah. I think you underestimate just how animated Steve actually is. He may not be able to bend his elbows and knees, but his arms and legs still have full 360 degree range of movement. Steve is able to do so much in Minecraft as is, it wouldn’t be hard to make him still be able to jump around and shit in smash.

thats not pepe retard

>unique visual style, new to smash
>lots of moveset potential
>minecraft ost is kino
>a minecraft stage will look cool

They will probably do a mix of both so neither attack look the same

It is

I doubt it. There’s more than one way to swing an axe/sword/etc...
Not ALL of his attacks need to follow the 1/1 animations in Minecraft

And that is one reason. No matter how you try, Steve and his group of blockmen just do not look right.

Really look at 3rd person movement of these models and say that again. Basic movement is barely something steve can do, let alone move like a fighter. Grabbing ledges, going up ladders, swimming, drowning, grabbing, getting launched, and so much more is needed to make a fighter work. Steve can barely move, even with the proposed changes everyone deflects on about.

but 4chans not about white nationalism. have you not seen /pol/ meetups

>lots of moveset potential
How? Fucker can barely move. You can have all the tools in the world but it means jack squat if all he can do is swing his arm one way.

>give a reason X character shouldn't be in
What the fuck is wrong with you retarded mongrels? Not a single god damned one of you autists know shit about why or how they're chosen but you stupid fucks insist on bickering over who is right or wrong. You autists should be heavily sedated somewhere awaiting their turn to donate organs.

He can swing his arm any way he wants dumbass. He only swings it forward because it’s a fucking first person game. How are so many people THIS retarded?

Steve Moveset:

Details: Steve is a character who’s main goal is to build his own stage control. He can place terrain through various types of craft-able blocks. He can also craft new weapons as the match progresses, meaning that moves that all use the pickaxe, sword, shovel, hoe and axe all start out as stone, but can be upgraded to iron and then diamond with a crafting table once a meter fills up. You will craft your blocks from here as well. Parrying with Steve will pull out his sword for the same minecraft animation of sword parrying.

>Jab
A single pickaxe swing. Like isabelle’s jab, but is faster, however, it has some cooldown aftee the fifth swing. has the exact same animation as it does in Minecraft. This move is also used to break placed blocks.
>dash attack
Hops up and thrusts sword down. (Reference to crit jumping)
>tilts
[Ftilt]: thrusts trident forward briefly for an extremely long ranged attack
[Utilt]: jumps and swings pickaxe upward. Both the jump and pickaxe swing have the same animations that they would have in Minecraft
[Dtilt]: uses a farming hoe by whacking it into the ground in front of him, then dragging it’s tip back to him, “farming” the ground.
>Fsmash
a three hit combo, sort of like cloud’s, that has Steve swing his sword three times in a row, with the third swing dealing the most damage and knock back. This move will keep somewhat similar animations to swinging the sword in Minecraft. Using this move against a projectile will cause him to swordu parry (with same MC animation), and reflect the incoming projectile on any one of his three swings.
>Usmash
Swings Axe upward in an arching motion, like Ness’s yoyo.
>Dsmash
Villager’s.

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>Standard Special
Place block. The first block to ever be placed will be a crafting table, if spawned in the air it will fall like Pac-man’s fire hydrant, but deal significantly less damage. You can then craft an assortment of blocks, however these cannot be spawned in the air. A thick, black, reticle-like cube outline will appear over where you would like to place a block (hold B while moving and/or jumping to keep reticle in front of you), however you can only place up to three blocks at a time. The different types of blocks you have are:
[Dirt Block]: easiest one to break if attacked, but also easiest to mine with jab to be placed somewhere else. Can place up to three.
[Cobblestone]: harder to break than dirt, but takes longer to mine. Can craft only 2.
[TNT]: can craft only one at a time. Placing it anywhere will automatically cause its fuse to light and blow up about a second and a half later. Will break any blocks within it’s blast radius
[Wooden Plank]: is just as sturdy as cobblestone, but is easier to mine away. However, it breaks almost instantly if attacked by a fire based move.
Another note is that the order you craft each block is the order it will be placed.
>Up Special
Places a piston beneath him that sends him flying upward
>Down Special
Throws an ender pearl. Pressing down-B will put it in his hand, like peach’s turnip. Throwing it will teleport him to where ever it lands and cause him 10% damage each time it is used. If thrown off the ledge or onto someone who is off the ledge, it will not teleport steve and only deal 10% damage to the other player (next to no knockback)
>Side Special
Steve hops onto a pig and uses the carrot lead to force the pig to charge forward.
>grab
Fishing rod tether grab. Can grab ledges. Pummel is standard punch with same animation from Minecraft.

Steve has the potential for a pretty unique moveset and he would stand out amongst the existing cast. While I don't personally care for either character I'm rooting for Banjo & Kazooie, but it's hard to deny Steve would probably be the more interesting pick of the two. Plus Minecraft unironically deserves to be represented somehow; a Creeper assist trophy would be sweet.

My main issue is that Minecraft Steve is absolutely devoid of character. The model lends itself only to incredibly basic and limited animation and his facial features never change. The guy would be the most boring fighter to look at unless his design is un-minecrafted, which beats the whole point of adding him in the first place.
There's a good reason Grotesque Steve spread as easily as he did, because the fucker could actually emote or bend his limbs.

Easy. There are far more caharacters/franchises that are much more deserving of a spot on this roster. Most people who play minecraft don't know who Steve is because he's a husk. Also, what will he do that Link can't?

>Aerials
[Nair]: same as jab, continuous pickaxe swings
[Fair]: swings sword in forward arching position.
[Bair]: swipes shovel from sideways tobehind him.
[Dair]: spawns diamond boots and stomps downward. Extremely powerful and can spike.
>final smash
Builds a nether portal and teleports enemy to the nether where they are ganged up on by a bunch ghasts.

Bingo. Nobody said a damn thing about Steve until that Verg BS.

He's perfect

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Go back to the Papageno discord faggot

Everything you just said is link.

there was some back in the sm4sh days, but all this Steve shit came out after vergeben said that Minecraft content is in the game

I don’t recall link being able to do any of that. The only move steve has in common with link in that entire moveset is his Bair.

If Steve gets in he should just be a Mii Swordfight outfit.

Herobrine echo fighter

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Honestly I'd lose my shit if his reveal trailer had him facing Rathalos and staying cool while he prepares dynamite to throw at him.

>start as stone
have you played minecraft

You realize that 3rd parties don't operate on the same logic as Nintendo properties right? They'd never add some avatar from a 3rd party, why pay money for a generic avatar? Every 3rd party so far is a very defined person/hedgehog/whatever pac-man is.

Pretty much what has been said before, he has move-set potential but is hampered by his extremely limited animations which are a very defining part of his 'character'. On the one hand, you could just throw him in, limited animations be damned but I feel it would clash/feel out of place more than an almost any fighter ever added. Conversely, you could just give him bendable arms and fluid animations like a Story Mode guy, but then, I feel that would kind of defeat the purpose of a Minecraft rep in the first place, since the basic animations kind of tie into the basic blocky art-style. I'd rather just have a stage and maybe an Assist Trophy. Make the stage populated by 'players' like Steve, Alex, and other skins, who interact with the world in the back-ground of the fighters, building houses for players to fight on (which get blown up by Creepers), creating Nether Portals which summon monsters that attack the fighters, and maybe occasionally flooding the stage with water/magma. Stuff like that.

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You’re not the only one who’s tired of it, others are really starting to get pissed off at it

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>banjofags so desperate they're making fake discord screenshots because nu-Yea Forums is obsessed with le boogyman of the week
It's sad, really. Oh well, we'll be the last ones laughing when he gets confirmed

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Steve is never getting in

fuck off

Minecraft made entire generation of children autistic