When will Sega retire Modern Sonic and replace him with Classic? Modern is a constant commercial and critical failure that continues to get worse with each new installment, meanwhile Classic is beloved and had the best Sonic game in 25 years.
When will Sega retire Modern Sonic and replace him with Classic...
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>When will Sega retire Modern Sonic and replace him with Classic?
Going by the merch that has been put out over the past few years, coupled with all the promotional hoopla and animated shorts featuring the classic stuff, I'd say it already has.
I've been noticing a lot more classic Sonic merchandise everywhere now. Hardly see any Modern anymore.
fuck off classic pedo
Seething Modernfag
Is that shadow? Why did they turn him into a cuck?
I prefer classic as well, but Sonic has been "modern" for about two-thirds of his existence. Like it or not, that's the Sonic that comes to mind when most people think of Sonic.
when will sega retire both and bring back Adventure sonic?
reminder the last time sonic was relevant in mainstream, that in the movie he's refered to as "robotnik.
classic is absolutely fucking kino
Modern and Adventure Sonic are the same design.
It's hilarious how "modern" sonic is now horribly outdated compared to classic sonic.
reminder classic is so based that they got the king of pop himself to work on the soundtrack
Careful OP, you'll attract a slew of faggots who think 2D Sonic is shit because you don't get your speed instantaneously.
lol we have movie sonic to go through first
Can we not start off a Mania thread with falseflagging or bait? They're supposed to be comfy
Except Sonic's popularity dropped off a cliff after the Genesis and half of the people that still cared wanted him to go back to normal the whole time.
>Yet another Sonic thread baiting eraniggers into arguing instead of actually talking about the games
Damn reruns
>comfy
Nah, I'd rather the thread start like OP wants it to.
but why?
Classicfags like you serously need to be killed, and every single one of you needs to be wiped off of the face of this planet
Love you too.
I love Sonic Classic and can see the appeal to Modern, but what I REALLY want to know is why there is such a high correlation between Autistics and Sonic, like how the property has drawn so many autistic ass fans. I'd love to find out.
Bonus is there is a sub-study on its correlation with Christianity.
this includes the op
Nothing is wrong with "Modern" Sonic aside from current Sonic Team's inability to make a good game. Either you're going to get a bad "Classic Sonic" with Sonic Team in charge, or you could get a good modern Sonic game with someone else at the wheel.
Peoples' inability to make this connection is astounding.
Because comfy is a buzzword that lost its meaning and at least the shitflinging with Classic vs. Modern generates discussion relating to the games and what can be improved in both areas.
There is no Sonic Team, the people that make the current ones are named CS2 and they made other good games like Puyo Pop and PSO2, it's more sega's fault for incredibly shady shit inside the company
I'm not so sure your premise is correct. Sonic games tend to sell about the same, regardless of quality or context. Adventure sold about as well as Unleashed, for instance. I haven't seen any evidence that Forces sold poorly, or that Mania sold well, either.
Personally, I'd rather they just kept the two playstyles separate instead of getting rid of either of them.
The sales numbers for mania haven't been updated since april 2018, but people still try and start shit about it, even relying on ps4 trophy leaks.
Classic Sonic is canonically older than modern Sonic
Then explain why so many people idolize the Adventure games.
>the last good modern sonic game will be eight years old this year
>the last mainline sonic game with soul is now over a decade old
Modernbros...
autistic people like it when characters aren't human
based
To be honest, I think it's somewhat of a runaway feedback loop. People think Sonic fans are especially autistic because they keep seeing autistic shit they do getting posted around, these things get posted around as proof that Sonic fans are especially autistic.
Pokemon has its fair share of insane deviants as well, if not way worse, but it doesn't have that same rep.
>same design
>bad games
Adventure is Modern
Autism
Nah, the Adventure Era is a distinct thing.
>games feature alternate playable characters and alternate objectives
>feature a "last story" where you go super to fight the final boss, set to Crush 40 music
>focus is put on characters and lore
>lot of spinoff titles
I can understand why people would miss that era.
SataM and the comic. I'm serious. SataM was a little more serious compared to AoStH and the comic commonly had the animal characters delve into teenage drama. Mix the general pull of Sonic's brand and you have what I feel is a viable answer to your question.
Nah. The autism kicked into gear after Sonic Adventure 2 Battle. That's when it became known for it.
People never really gave much of a fuck about the comic or cartoon actually, maybe for low level furry fanfic but literally everything with furry characters has that.
>Adventure is Modern
Also, greetings from /sthg/
has it gotten any better over there yet?
Drink bleach
well shit
In the past few threads we have:
>discussed about a cancelled Sonic character named Tiara who is somehow 4'4" and shitposted about her bullying Shadow for being a hedgelet
>continued our shipping discussions as always
>gender swapped Sega staff using a phone app
>started an ongoing war between the Positive Sonic Partnership and the Give Up Gang
>Adventurefags still shitposting about how shonen Sonic was kino
So no.
Thread reminder that "modern" sonic was first in Sonic Generations and it all went down hill after were-hog in unleashed.
You don't need to ditch modern Sonic, just bring him more in line with the classics style and aesthetic while bringing it's good elements to the mix. You don't need the classic Sonic character designs to retain the spirit and quality of the classics.
never ever
stay mad classiccucks
honestly with more polish pic related could have been truly great it captured the classic sonic aesthetic perfectly in a 3D game didn't have an overly complex plot either i wish they stayed this route
classic autists are usually old ugly as fuck salty boomers that are mad they can't appreciate kino like pic related because they are INDEED old ugly as fuck salty boomers. eat shit you seething nigger. oh wait, you already are
based as fuck.
>Shadowfag
These games are garbage even by Sonic standards, especially StH.
why do I get the suspicion the only people who actually use these words are either falseflaggers or shitposters?
SEETHING classic faggot detected
>imagine being this retarded
Modern Sonic nabs the autist money
no u, nigger.
hence why i said it could use more polish i liked how it looked not how it played
Why must Classic brothers and Modern brothers fight each other? Do we not both enjoy the sound of collecting a trail of rings? Or passing a goal post at the end of a stage? We should be friends with each other not enemies! Besides, who we REALLY should be fighting is the fucking plumber.
Mario > Modern Sonic
It's also funny how everytime an erafagging session goes on, you always see the exact same hesse sonic and shadow pictures. Are we being raided by /sthg/ again?
my shit > you
I'm not sure what I hate more, the Classic/Modern shit flinging or the stupid gay shipping pictures. I just want to share cool fanart and share experiences with our favorite games...
>modern sonic
more like uncool fanart
i like watching my penis go in and out of your moms mouth
shut the fuck up
Back to your general.
Reminder that Bark and the rest of the Classic characters will never appear in the comics ever again.
agh, after Tails Gets Trolled I just can't go back to regular old fight scenes like this
what are you talking about, the general is the one known for doing this.
what does knuckles eat
bugs?
Grapes according to his bio.
echidnas eat ants and termites, I'm sure ants would not be at all hard to find for him.
It would be fun to have Mighty have some vertical levels where he uses his hammer drop and wall kicks and for Ray to have some flying levels. I loved them in Mania and their play styles have so much potential for unique levels.
>Retire modern Sonic
>Replace with classic Sonic
The day will come wjhere classic Sonic will become modern.
I hope when we get a Mania 2 or something, each character has unique levels tailored especially for their abilities. Like how Knuckles' act 1 of Mirage Saloon was built around his wall climbing and gliding abilities.
Anyone else unironically want Fighter’s 2 with the same art style?
>we don't get a Virtua Fighter 6
>but a new Sonic the Fighters with a VF6 engine
I could accept this.
Three of those are the same fucking robot.
What exactly is the difference between Classic and Modern Gameplay when stuff like this and Rush exist?
People just really like to start shit about eye color or something.
Dimps games lack good level design and the physics aren't as good as the Classics.
modern sonic is still underage
you're being a pedo either way
But Rush is extremely different from Classic gameplay
I feel it would be best if they merged both modern and classic designs like in this mock up I made.
Because we all know real hedgehogs eat chilidogs in the wild.
So Nendoroid Sonic?
As are two of the other ones. The Metal Sonics, two Mecha Sonics, one Silver Sonic.
Mecha is just a name. There's no reason to believe they were ever the same robot. Just iteration. And I don't think "Silver Sonic" was ever an officially recognized name. Probably just a popular nickname lots of people came to because it's pretty natural to think "Silver" looking at it, or something American manuals referenced.
The little one is Silver Sonic. The one that gets upgraded between 3 and K is Mecha Sonic.
between 2 and K*
This but you should have posted Unleashed as >pic-related
>tails doll
CAN YOU FEEL THE SUNSHINE
Unleashed is shit
advance is similar to classic, rush is not even close
the fucking difference between rush and classic is boosting, getting a free movespeed from vertical springs, and character momentum
>heroes plot
what plot?
but yes, there is a great game buried in heroes's shit
game woulda been 5 times as fun if we could rocket accel without relying on fucking rng team pathing, team blasts after effects were more interesting, ring dashing wasn't jank, camera was good, rail switching worked as intended at all for once or maybe they designed the paths around its limits, no iframes on enemies, and if flying was based on time allowed to fly rather than distance, and flying didn't cut your speed to its cap but it just slowed over a few seconds
But I like Silver :(
id say you are not alone but you actually are
Sonic Heroes is unironically a good game. Ironically, it is the only good 3d sonic game
Chaotix team was the only thing that won me over in Heroes
Why does Robuttnik always look so chill?
That's like saying Classic Sonic gameplay should have been retired in 2010 because Sonic 4 was a dud and Colors got a shitton of critical and commercial praise
It's not Modern Sonic's fault that he's currently being handled by incompetent boobs
Don't forget
>if tilting the analog stick in a slightly wrong direction didn't send your character slip-sliding off into the abyss
God I wish that game had controls that didn't feel like running on ice.
Oh and I almost forgot
>if you didn't lose all NINE of your levels every time the above happened
stuffike this is outnumbered by trash like 06, Srcret Rings, and Black Knight. And the worst part is there are only three Advance games. They'll continue to make trash like Forces forever.
I know Toei Sonic gets meme'd to hell and back but I honestly like it better than Classic/Modern's designs.
honestly a "git gud" issue
sonic's kick dive will railroad you against the edge of a platform, powertype punches will curve you into enemies if you attempt to barely miss
you literally just play power types and B while holding forward, then accidentally push b after an enemy dies near a ledge.
learn to count your damage you shitter
No dude you don't understand, at this point I have become one with the shitty controls and can make it through over half the game without dying once. But it was a long and torturous journey and they still don't feel good.
Im sad enough to understand how you feel, I went through unlocking and beating hard mode
Because he won the race
No fag this didn't happen exactly like that fuck off. Those Adventure games sold very well and were liked and this is despite Dreamcast failing. It wasn't really until mid 2000's where it probably started to fail.
If we have about another couple Classic successes and Modern failures paired with the horridness that is the movie I'd say it's entirely possible. And unless they overhaul Iizuka's team I say good riddance too, the last shred of light Modern had died with Archie anyways (IDW's getting better, but the low-energy probably won't) and has done little more than piss all over what made 2D's fun physics and aesthetic work since Adventure, or even at Adventure's own spirit with today's wet turds.
Hell there was some rumor going around that SoJ may very well hand Sonic off entirely to SoA's hands permanently and focus on weebshit and actually-good shit like Yakuza instead. So long as we finally get proper sequels be it 2D or 3D and not just more nostalgia-wanking, I'm all for the idea.
Classicucks are the most insufferable people in the entire franchise.
For me its Mk III desu
I'd rather them co-exist with classic only being handled by the proper people.
The fact that they're working on Racing and that Racing is aping a lot of Mania's advertising with the shorts shows good signs for the future, honestly.
and yet this name still makes little sense
IT'S YOUR FAULT YOU BUMBLING METAL HEADS
They'd be silly to let someone as talented as Tyson escape them after doing such a great job on Mania Adventures.
TOMORROW I'LL
I NEVER SHOULD HAVE MADE YOU
>inb4 you get swarmed by the people going but muh meme faces
WELL IF IT ISN’T THE BONDLING BROTHERS OUT OF THE BAILING CIRCUS
It's called "Mecha Sonic" in the Japanese manual. The left most one. Don't know about the other two.
>Classicucks
HOW? How can they be cucks? I like Modern Sonic, but Classic's been the center of the spotlight for nearly three years now.
Since 2016, Classicfags have gotten an objectively 9/10 game with DLC that's just as good, a webseries that currently has over 50 million views and a successful one-shot comic(cancelled due to Archie's bullshit, but still).
Now let's look at what Modernfags have gotten: a mediocre boost game with literal OCs, a bland comic series, and a kart racing game that's guaranteed to be worse than the ones that came before it.
I feel like they say it just because of the alliteration, possibly because they can't think of a more clever name too. That and, it's a word most commonly used on /sthg/ by falseflaggers or shitposters as far as my research goes, so it's most likely cross-posters who say it the most.
Mania version is soulless desu
Are there faggots who really think Sega is going to kill modern Sonic? Lol, pure fucking delusion. People unironically love Sonic Adventure. In fact, Aaron just did a small playthrough of Sonic Adventure 2. Arin Hanson also fucking loved Sonic Adventure 2.
Deal with it classic cucks, but Adventure Sonic is the ideal Sonic.
Sure thing, now back to your gay lemonfics Shadowboi.
>arin "actually mentally retarded" hanson liked it, so therefor its good
Is here any hope of a 3D Sonic game getting those scores?
...how
All Modern games are shit and that includes Adventure 2. Cope Modernigger Shadowcuck.
Can this samefag go back to the sonic general already? We don't need this in every fucking Sonic thread
You don't have to have classic Sonic to have classic-style games.
No
>Still less than Mania Plus
>Gamecube port 6 months later has a lower score
I'm , erafags are cancer
Heroes should have been Adventure 3
Sonic needs to make comic characters playable
You may not like it, Classic cucks, but Arin Hanson has big sway with people over at sega, as obviously does Aaron who is in charge of twitter. Everyone involved in making the Sonic games say that even though the Adventure games are flawed they are still beloved. So... get over it, okay?
There should be a level where you play as Geoffrey and cuck Sonic.
I'm not trying to make enemies here, so why are you?
For the historical record, it's totally true that there have always been classicfags. I remember people whining about the robotnik name change and the shift to 3d. They have always been there.
Personally I don't understand the attachment to "robotnik". Eggman is fine. Also I'm down for more classic everything. I've been a fan for decades and modern always disappoints. But that's Sega's fault more than Sonic's. I'm sure given time they'll fuck up classic forever too. A mania 2 and a good game with chao gardens would be a good start for rebuilding the brand.
Is there anybody more autistic than classic cucks? Honestly, they're all basically like Sammy.
>he avatarfags as shadow and worships arin hanson
oh my god
>mfw I see a classic fag
Adventurefags
Heroes could have been a lot better if they took the time to design levels and added a Chao garden. The gameplay has a lot of potential that was mostly wasted.
Modern still brings cash from all the autists.
Honestly I still think a Sonic Adventure 3 could be good, but Sonic Team would just fuck it up and make a heavily flawed game at best.
>a heavily flawed game at best
so an Adventure game
If you didn't avatar fag as with Hesse then maybe you classic faggots opinions would be worth something.
Im...not avatarfagging?
who the fuck is Hesse?
>Honestly I still think a Sonic Adventure 3 could be good
You freaking freaks! Your fantasies will never be quenched. We don't need Sonic Adventure 3!
It's a falseflagger that's been around since SXSW 2018.
I don't know, doesn't it just seem a little unfair that I'm not aloud to publicly appreciate the old games, and can only speak about the Modern ones? It just sounds one sided, I'm not here ragging on the games you like, so what did I do to deserve getting caught in the crossfire? I just don't understand any of this.
There was like... one hesse shitpost much earlier in the thread, come on.
Classic cucks
Shadowfags easily.
>posting whisper
Ok, alongside the sudden out of nowhere shadow avatarfagging, now I know this is definitely a /sthg/ raid.
So much for this thread I guess, I thought being at 4 am would minimize shitposts.
There's a difference between appreciating the old game and acting like an actual literal boomer faggot who think everything after the classics was shit and modern should be completely axed. If we're talking about boost formula shit then I agree it's terrible, but modern Sonic in its entirety shouldn't be gutted and any sensible Sonic fan knows that.
Exactly. What I mean is that an adventure game could be legitimately good, but Sonic Team are morons and can only make a Sonic Adventure 2 at their top best.
>/sthg/ raid
well considering all that Yea Forums ever fucking does is yell and scream about why Sonic's eyes are green and that modern should die it's a fucking fresh of breath air than people who aren't complete era fags join in.
Why is it so important to you that Sonic's eyes need to be green? This is like the tenth time you've brought it up.
>he says this while the thread is getting hijacked by the shadow avatarfag again
>Yea Forums literally had a favorite sonic game thread over a week ago with little to no erafagging
Who do I believe...?
And yeah, I agree with you too. I guess it's just kinda hard when you sometimes get called a classic cuck on sight just for even giving mania the slightest bit of praise. I wish it never got to that point
This is the first time I've personally brought it up in this thread, but personally I prefer the fact that they have color because if they don't then he looks lifeless and less colorful without a little bit of color in his irises. More importantly, why the hell do you classic fags feel like they absolutely shouldn't be green? Honestly, it's like the blue arms for you autists.
>/sthg/
Goodbye loser.
You're the one that keeps bringing it up, retard. Did you screech like Chris Chan when Mania art revealed his eyes are brown again? Get over it.
>Comictards
I love Sonic Unleashed and Generations, bite me!
I literally always see classic cucks crying about the eye color without any provocation all the time.
but cream is a modern character
You don't think lc-kun came back, do you?
Cream isn't in Modern anymore either. She's been erased and replaced with Chao.
Literally every Sonic character except for Rouge is underage, well also Eggman.
The GCN ports
So, who are those 2 new guys?
Big, Vector and Shadow aren't underage either
And Vanilla and several Human Worldians
Tangle and Whisper
They are comic ocs who look fucking cute
>Shadow
>not underage
Mina Milestone Maybe?
I thought you were a bot
It's a shitposter from /sthg/. The one posting that on /sthg/ is an actual bot.
Huh, how'd they figure that one out. Or better yet why it even exists.
And now here you are, crying without provocation.
Honestly, I dont know, all I know is that it appears every thread with that same message and picture. /sthg/ isnt going to do character milestones anymore after #2000 (which is Hyper Sonic) and the last poll (for #1900) had Mina lose by one vote, so everyone just makes fun of it when the bot posts. I'm surprised it didnt get banned.
The black and red guy across from Knuckles is Mighty the Amarillo.
The orange fox across from Ray is Miles Prower, usually just called Tails.
Mighty should get a wall jump so there is more too him than "easy mode sonic".
>without provocation
literally the OP post is a provocation.
So you actually were triggered by seeing the classic brown eyes. God you darkagefags are autistic.
You're not actually this retarded, are you? You know very well that's not what I meant.
Where is it Paramount?
MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!?????????????!!!!!!!!!!!
I wish the fujo faggots would leave /sthg/ so I could go back.
hilarious
And he's "Eggman" in Sonic Mania, but that doesn't really matter because Sega decided that his real name is "Robotnik", so think Dr. Ivo "Eggman" Robotnik. The name debate is silly.
Nostalgia.
Modern "Sonic" is a Bomberman: Act Zero-lite in terms of redesign.
>implying these animals all reach maturity at the same age as humans
I bet Cream still living with her mother at age six is barely socially acceptable among her kind.
Left one is called the Silver Sonic in the Master System manual and within Sonic Mania, middle one is also called Silver Sonic by Archie and Robo Sonic in Sonic Dimensions, and the right is called Metal Sonic on the back of the American box, the Evil Sonic by Sonic The Comic, and Mecha Sonic in Sonic Dimensions. They're all generically called Mecha Sonic in Japan (except for Sonic Mania and LEGO Dimensions since they're western-developed), but not the same robot. Sonic the Fighters' "Rocket Metal Sonic" even has the codename "Mecha Sonic Model No.29" written on it, so it's definitely meant as a series of robots. Run forth and impress all your friends with your new-found knowledge!
The issue with Classic Sonic is that you can't really take him anywhere aside from remaking the classic gameplay. Mania was well received, but if they make sequels that are just Mania with different stages and characters they will quickly hit diminishing returns.
UTOPIA
They spoiled the damn final boss.
Just make a fucking 3D platformer where the character moves fast. The whole concept of Sonic was taking Mario and making it so that you could get past the levels faster and faster every time you replayed them. All they have to do is apply that to a free roaming platformer. I played Spyro for the first time after I bought the Reignited trilogy, and all I could think of was how that would make for a fantastic Sonic game if your default movement speed was as fast as the charge, and pressing the button to charge made you go at superspeed to run across chasms and shit.
gamecubebabs who also defend sunshine in other threads
You forgot Wave as well
This.
Classic Sonic is the default Sonic again. Modern Sonic still appears occasionally like in Smash and a few spin-off games, but Classic Sonic is the one that gets the most exposure, sells the most merch, gets the best games, sells the most games, gets the most fan art, etc.
The right is how I've always seen modern Sonic. It's so off-putting and lame.
The only people keeping Gumby Sonic alive are Iizuka and a few of the other stubborn folk at Sonic Team HQ. Classic Sonic represents a time when the Americans took their baby, altered it, and made it successful. That created a lot of resentment on the Japanese side. When they redesigned it for Sonic Adventure, they felt like Sonic was wholly theirs again. That's why they cling so hard to it despite the fact that it sucks, nobody except for autists like it, and people on the western side have been trying to get them to back to the old ways (because its more profitable) for a while now. Good old, stubborn Japanese pride.
Sega needs to realize that Sonic was at its best when the Japanese and American side were working together. Why can't Classic Sonic be in Smash?
I recently replayed the two Adventure and despite some technical issues, i still enjoyed the first one a lot.
2D Sonic games are still the best, but i hope Sonic Team will consider another Adventure style 3D game if they really have to keep Modern Sonic around.
>Classic Sonic represents a time when the Americans took their baby, altered it, and made it successful.
Looks like those pesky Americans might be doing it again, if Sonic Mania is anything to go by. Fucking round eye does it again!
Left still looks the best of those three
The Saturn version of Sonic 3D: Flickies' Island got "merger"-style artwork in Japan (because it was released on the same day as Sonic Adventure International).
I like both but I will ALWAYS side with classichads in arguments because the vast majority of modern fans are cringey furfags and crying little babies
Because anthro characters and colour coded characters both appeal to autists. Maybe with christianity that can also be linked with autism if the kids have grown up in a religious household they might get obsessed with it, or maybe it’s the fact crush 40 puts a lot of christian messages into their music (jun is christian I think). Sonic as a character also has that sort of appeals to that too I suppose
Someone explain to me how the boosting in Hero's special stages was supposed to work. I could never get the emerald from stage 3 or 7.
Tangle the Lemur game fucking when
Actual pedophile cope. How autistic are you? If a character is meant to look, behave, and sound like a child, it’s a child. Your made up headcanon that they age like actual animals is fucking irrelevant. Literally “but the loli is 10000 years old!” Argument
You just hold the button
More like people confuse Toei Sonic for that hack Heese's rip-off of it. Damn shame.
i'm not him, but i'm going to be real with you. If they made cream a bat or something I wouldn't give a fuck, but they made her a rabbit. It's fucking rabbits user. I mean Vanilla the rabbit is fucking amazing and gets alot of quality porn but not nearly as much as cream.
Theres no babysitting vanilla game.
I’ve tried to like silved for so long, the psychic powers, ANOTHER hedgehod + super transformation but man I just don’t think he meshes well with the rest of the cast. They should have stuck with him and Blaze being from another dimension not a fucked up future timeline.
Literally who?