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>Shall we let the Flood consume our holy city? Turn it into another of their wretched hives?
>No enemy has ever withstood our might. The flood, too, will fail.
Bros I'm still not feeling too good about our chances.
Fuck the Unggoy and fuck the Prophets!
Why you no like grunt
Name one thing the unggoy did wrong
Cowardly weaklings.
Guys, I know we're meant to hate the Jiralhanae and all. But have you ever thought about how big their penises are? I mean imagine having sex with one haha, that'd be so funny
But who will hold the plasma cannons?
tfw no human bf
>will kamikaze their enemies at the slightest provocation
>cowardly
smelly dumb falseflagging brute scum
>Honorable Prophets, what shall we do with this copy of MCC that now contains Reach?
Glass it.
There was only one post
>One... are you sure?
Yes. They called it "the shilling of nostalgiafags"
>WHY WAS IT NOT DELETED, ALONG WITH THE REST OF THEIR SHIT
It fled, as we applied bans to their IP. But I followed with all the jannies in my command.
>I swear these heathens are worse than the Flood
>Every planet we go to in search of the Holy Relics have humans infesting it
>EVERY SINGLE ONE
*AHEM AHEM* Fuck split-jaws and fuck the Great Journey!
>They're just shitty Brutes
>Absolutely worthless
>Glassing them is a mercy
Hey there user, have you ever wondered why it is that literally every single one of our luminaries pings humans as forerunner relics? Do you think that there is something that the Holy Prophets aren't telling us?
Jealous jiralhanae fingers wrote this post.
>literally taking decades just to take small amounts of territory with massive tech and number advantage
You covies are complete fucking jobbers, if we had plasma guns and shields we would have half the galaxy licking our ass by now
Prophets are all in bed with the fat cats in the council. This war is all about money. Did you know that the humans are the only discovered race to not have a centralized bank? Wake up sheeple!
It's not our fault you acted like hippies and had no war for a few centuries.
>Humans: independently invent slipspace travel
>Brutes: do not invent slipspace travel
>Humans: do not nuke themselves back into the stone age
>Brutes: do this regularly
I think that this says everything on the subject that needs to be said
Didn't humanity have pretty much constant war before the UNSC was formed and then had the rebellions right before the covenant war?
Unless they retconned shit again, no they didn't. After Slipspace we just colonized for a few centuries.
/thread
Having a war with the rebellion literally saved our asses because we actually forgot how to war good.
Never forget that Halsey is a WAR CRIMINAL
tonight in the eastern power generator
let’s meet
and fuck up some faggot huragok
kig-yar and unggoy welcomed if you want to be the fall guys
glory to the queens
I wonder if things would have turned out differently if the UNSC was in the middle/going through the aftermath of an inter-planetary war. As far as I know the rebellion in canon was just a bunch of farmers and not an actual militarized threat.
We managed to develop nukes at the end of WW2, we would probably have planet busters at the end of space WW3.
RRREEEEEEE THESE FUCKING GRUNT INSECTS CAUSED MY WIFE TO HAVE MISCARRIAGE!
Someone ought to sterilize them.
what happened to these guys after the human covenant war ended?
Dumb arbiter prevented us from achieving glorious salvation
Probably something horribly un-exciting and boring so let's pretend they became space prostitutes.
Apparently they retreated back to their home planet and most species adopted a ‘Don’t poke the nest’ policy when Yanme’e are involved, which is to say they’d rather avoid bothering the bug people
>And the creators? What happened to the Forerunners?
>After exhausting every other strategic option, my creators activated the rings. They along with all other sentient life within 3 radii of the galactic center died, as planned
>NO, ARBITER, ACCORDING TO THE NOVEL HALO: SILENTIUM THERE WAS A CADRE OF SURVIVING FORERUNNERS WHO REBUILT THE DOMAIN AFTER IT GOT BTFO BY THE ACTIVATED HALO ARRAYS SO THEY DIDN'T ALL GET KILLED THEY REALLY DID GO ON THE GREAT JOURNEY, YOU REALLY NEED TO STUDY UP MORE ON THE LORE
man the brutes really were misunderstood geniuses
God the post Halo 3 canon is so fucking bad. Hearing all this shit about how Humans are even older than the Forerunners, how the flood are devolved precursors... yuck.
you could even say they don't want to be bugged
Weren't the Forerunners supposed to be humans from the beggining anyway?
>[Your pal. Where's he going?] Earth. To finish what was started. And this time, none of you will be left behind!
>Your forefathers wisely set aside their compassion, steeled themselves for what needed to be done. I see now why they left you behind... you were weak, and gods must be strong!
>You are the child of my makers! Inheritor of all they left behind! You ARE Forerunner! But this ring is mine!
In the final analysis, what did they mean by this?
Halo lore was so creatively bankrupt that they literally redid WW2 but in space
You deserved to be glasses for such a jest.
They literally explained this in one of the comics that came out in Halo 3. The forerunners were aware of humanity back when we were Homo Habilis and basically thought it was cute that they finally found another sapient species and took it upon themselves to watch over us in our very infancy. The comic is told from the point of view of a shaman who sees them constructing the portal to the Ark and thinks that they are gods. Unfortunately they had to fire the rings and sudoku themselves. I think there was one forerunner who was on Earth at the time and basically decided to live out the rest of her life quietly before dying and disappearing in the dust of history.
Prophets thought that humans are forerunners that were left behind thats why they declare war on them. Forerunners made humans reclaimers, made them "understand" their tech on genetic level so humans could rise and be what forerunners failed to.
>deserved to be glasses
Watch out, he's into object tf!
This was an adaptation of one of the Halo 3 terminals, which were written by a completely different team from the rest of the game, hence the discrepancy between what you just posted and Guilty Spark calling Chief a literal forerunner.
How did the firing of the rings not wipe out the primitive humans?
Automated transport ships brought them to the Ark before the arrays fired and back afterwards
smaller scale detention I guess.
>According to Bungie employee David Candland,[183] Bungie's original intention for the connection between humanity and Forerunners was that they were one and the same; this was hinted repeatedly throughout the Halo Trilogy[184] and potentially alluded to in Joseph Staten's novel Halo: Contact Harvest. During the development of Halo 3, this changed so that humans and Forerunners were distinct from one another, as is evident in material released as part of the game's marketing campaign and in the terminals found within the game itself.
What is more kino, Yea Forums:
>Humans are the descendants of a group of forerunners who were deliberately devolved and left behind by the others to ensure their legacy would continue on after they activated the arrays
>Humans are not actually forerunners but were a bunch of big-dicked galaxy conquerors who lost to the forerunners but impressed them enough to be chosen to inherit the mantle after the forerunners passed
Its not impression. Flood tricked forerunners into thinking that humans have cure for it by retreating from human territories. Thats why they haven wiped humans clean, to extract information about "cure"
The rebellion had their own ships and nuked cities. It was severe enough to warrant the creation of the Spartan II program.
Guys I beat a large black human who mained snake poorly in Smash and he called me a Drone before banning me. Wat do?
Neither. They should have just remained a species that the Forerunners discovered shortly before the Forerunners offed themselves.
>nuked cities
Not exactly sympathetic freedom fighters. Also how weak do you have to be to get your shit pushed in by your own citizens rebelling?
Ask the UK
Second is more kino
How high would the humans have made it into the covenant if the prophets never learned of their connection to the forerunners and thus never ordered the genocide?
Come to think of it pretty much every empire gets fucked when people rebel. Wonder why nobody at ONI decided to use that on the Covenant. The Schism completely fucked them up, there was no need for 30 odd years of war.
The UNSC did their own nuking as well, judging by Far Isle.
HFY wanking is never kino
Came to post this.
We over expanded and our Slipspace drives were shit. I think it was 1.8 light years per day I believe. So if a planet or even a whole damn sector rebelled, it will take a while to get there. And the ships we had were basically anti-pirate ships. Point defenses and missiles were all we had. The MAC wasn't developed until the beginning of the Human-Covenant war.
Uh, fellow Sangheili, has anyone checked on the grunts lately?
HFY is my dirty pleasure. Too bad it's almost never done right.
>Too bad it's almost never done right.
I don't think it can be.
Don't look at me, I voted for Yapflip
Explain this meme, /hg/
Whos ready for some Grunt anatomy lessons
Gas the Kig-yar race war now
Option 3. Humans were not ancient spacemen they were just cavemen on Earth that the forerunner liked. And they earned their place to reclaim the galaxy on their own.
You know, what halo 3 told us.
Of course it can
... Keep them away from the grenades and fuel rod cannons for a while. And have more than one Sangheili with a group.
That is signifcinatly less fun than the other options.
There is a grunt on the Ark named YapYap the Destroyer who stole the prophet of truth's Crown and has a sizable army of fellow grunts
Also he (non-canon) hacked into Halo Wars 2 and Halo MCC as a takeover update with new features and the players have to kill grunts in the campaign to defeat him
random grug cavemen #231140 magically earning the mantle for no reason over the other undeveloped grug cavemen race is stupid and worse than either of the two other explanations, and the halo 3 terminals are stupid
>Humans = Forerunners
Generic.
>Humans = ancient spacemen
Stupid
>Humans = Humans
Best option
Best option.
I stopped reading the books after Ghosts of Onyx. Was it mentioned anywhere in that timeframe?
It's boring as fuck.
>raid human outpost
>bust in and cleanse the place of human scum
>one remains and it's the human commander
>it's a female
>before capturing her she strips her armor
>demands that we mate with her
>me and my troops are disgusted and finish her with a quick beheading
>our faces when the whole ordeal
Are all human females like this? This shit was incredibly uncomfortable when explaining the story to the commander.
>Halo lore was so creatively bankrupt that they literally redid WW2 but in space
This is possibly the dumbest post in this history of Yea Forums
It was first talked about in Ghosts of Onyx, and mentioned once more in Mortal Dictata.
No it's not. Halo is a story about humanity and trying to survive.
Humans being Forerunners makes them Mary sue's, too powerful. Even if they lost to the flood now they're gonna win with way more primitive tech?
Ancient spacemen is just lame 343 shit
Humans being special but not explicitly powerful or amazing is best option. Librarian finds us and hedges her bets on us, so she puts the ark portal on Earth and lets us develop ON OUR OWN so we survive by our own merits and not ancient ancestry or anything like that.
Based
We could learn a lot from the Covenant
>humans being forerunners is mary sue
>humans being oh so special just because even though they're not actually special but they are anyways isn't mary sue and quality writing
low iq post
>not accepting humanity not as the ultra badass fighters of the universe but the absolute scourge, guided by Earth itself
Glass the humans, holy war now!
>Humans being special
That's still shit.
Retard.
>You guys were actually teh ancient galaxy spanning godlike advanced empire all along!
VS
>You developed on your own and survived by your own merits as a species
Option2 is way more in line with the thematic narrative of halo's story.
>humans are just as boring and generic as everyone else
Booooo. I don't play video games to be some jack fucking nobody.
Being ancient and advanced didnt saved them from destruction. So humanity was wiped clean once despite being infinitely more powerful
>You developed on your own and survived by your own merits as a species oh and also here's the mantle 100,000 years ago because we could tell that you guys were the mary sue race based on literally nothing
>but noooo we're not special in this scenario
user just stop
Thank you user.
>No it's not. Halo is a story about humanity and trying to survive.
Correct. People saying we won the war completely missed the point. We were fucking spared. Despite putting in our all we were getting our shit pushed on left, right, and center. It took a deus ex machina, a third enemy, and a civil war on the enemies side for humanity to not be fucking extinct.
The relationship between the flood and precursors had potential, but you're right about the rest, 343 and its media team did not have the feel of what Halo was
Don't be a baby.
Being acknowledged as special by the Gods is way different than BEING the Gods, you brainlet.
They should have kept the humans as the Forerunners
OOOoooOOOO oOOOoOoO
At least we can agree that being ancient spacemen is the worst of the options.
They should have stuck with the ideas that Forerunners and humans were one in the same, and continued with the Biblical themes. The flood wiped away the old world because of its transgressions, sequels to Halo 3 could have had themes revolving around the book of Revelation and second coming of Christ. Of course there are no such thing as aliens in real life but the Biblical themes would make for a good story and educate people
You're super high on doublethink if you want to pretend that your narrative of humans being nonspecial literally whos is true while at the same time having it be founded on the forerunners choosing them as worthy inheritors of the Mantle out of all possible species in the galaxy at the very dawn of their species. Go take your doublethink somewhere else.
THE GRUNT JOURNEY IS NIGH, JOIN ME BROTHERS AND TOGETHER WE'LL FIND THE FOOD NIPPLE OF THE GODS
grunt #075690326001 here, give elite milkies pls
No, I acknowledge that they're "chosen ones" in both scenarios. One option just has them be literal God's who ruled the galaxy. Way to deflate the stakes. It's way cooler that humanity survived by their own merits. That's the story of Halo.
Boo
>choosing them as worthy inheritors of the Mantle out of all possible species in the galaxy
But humans defeat all other species during Halo 1-3, that's the point.
The Spartans were originally created to quell insurrections in human space before ever meeting the covenant
>literal gods
Fuck off Truth, literal gods wouldn't have lost. Furthermore, your idea fails for one simple reason:
>You are The Chosen One (tm)
>...why?
>Just because lol
This is the worst trope in all of fiction.
No they didn't, they got their teeth kicked in and lucked out when their enemies killed themselves in a civil war rather than finish them off.
fuck this I'm joining the banished
I would classify anyone with the power to instantly destroy all life in an entire galaxy as gods, yes. Ever heard of smiting?
>It's way cooler that humanity survived by their own merits
They won because they had automatic free access to all of the forerunner tech and were acknowledged as reclaimers by the Forerunners. They would have lost if they had no connection to the Halos and provoked the Schism.
But they wouldn't have survived AT ALL during that clusterfuck without key members such as Both Keyes, Halsey, Cortana (she counts? Probably.) Johnson, and chief.
If everyone sat on their ass they'd be extinct.
humans arent gods because we can end life on earth with nukes
You're gonna get literally branded.
>They won because they had automatic free access to all of the forerunner tech
Not really. They never use the forerunner tech to their advantage. Sentinels, guilty spark, and Ring defense systems actively attack them. All humanity really does to forerunner shit is turn it off to prevent it being misused.
First of all we wouldn't end all life on Earth with nukes, secondly a single planet is a WHOLE lot different than an entire galaxy. Get a sense of scale, brainlet.
>hey look Fellator of Flaccid Scholngs, primitives that live in caves
>they are amazing Fornicates with Venerial Infections, let us leave them all of our works
>what?
>that's fucking retarded
>are you snorting flood powder again?
THEY DON'T SAY THAT IN 2 YOU NIGGER
The only reason why the Human-Covenant war didn't end with Truth showing up with High Charity to glass Earth and render humanity extinct was because of the Great Schism. Humanity had lost the war at the beginning of Halo 2. The Covenant just failed to finish it.
>343 lore
Opinion discarded. Of course a 343fag missed the whole point of Halo, much like 343 themselves.
If they had no connections to the Halo's and tech there wouldn't have been a war in the first place. We barely used any forerunner tech at all, the only advanced tech we had were energy shields developed for the Spartan II's during the war which was reversed engineered from covenant tech. For all intents and purposes we had no tech advantage whatsoever.
Humanity lost the war the moment it started. They had little to no chance to begin with.
And they would have lost the war if that connection wasn't present. Let me be clear: in any scenario in which the humans have 0 connection to the forerunners, the human-covenant war would end with humanity's sound and humiliating defeat.
WE WUZ PRECOURSERS N SHIET
JEALOUS BL*E BOI?
And yet if they had not intervened at all they'd still be dead because the covenant, despite having civil war and fighting the flood, managed to activate solo Halo rings twice, and EVERY HALO RING at once from the ark.
>If they had no connections to the Halo's and tech there wouldn't have been a war in the first place
There would be a short war like every other time the covenant find a new competent species who doesn't take kindly to being enslaved, but the humans would lose and be indoctrinated into the Covenant and then be killed when the prophets eventually find a halo ring and light it. This is not a victory scenario.
There wouldn't have been a war, we would just get annexed.
Yeah but they did have a connection with the Forerunners. The librarian visited earth, lived among humans, and decided they would be the successors. That's why she built the Ark portal on Earth.
>343 lore
this is the post that gave the senseless and stupid boring premise.
343 has nothing to do with it.
But you seem fucktarded, carry on.
And eventually die as user above me stated.
That is a defeat. Being conquered by a superior military power is defeat. Dumbass.
Boo
>implying space jews wouldn't subvert the leadership positions from the Prophets
No you mentioned the stupid dust shit and used 343's forerunner naming scheme
Kill the demon
>implying that out-politicking the prophets is possible
literally their entire race has been doing nothing but scheming for 1000 sins
that's a joke you autistic buttblasted maniac
for a bunch of thinkers, they aren't portrayed as very smart.
More like zealous, power hungry, IQ starved politicians.
How does Chief's and Cortana's banter in Halo 4 rate in comparison to Halos 1-3?
Alright well it's hard to tell because some people on here geniunely shill for 343's terrible forerunner lore. We can all agree that's shit.
Too dramatic, no lighthearted fun, no soul. Really that sums up the whole game.
Anybody down for some Z-ball after the night shift?
>Chaddunggoy broke in front of me in the line to the food nipple
>only get a half portion
>tfw
I thought this was what was implied by all 3 original games but apparently the cancer started back in the terminals in Halo 3.
>yuck
that's really the only way to put it. The terrifying flesh borg were created when ancient humans decided to put some space dust that they found floating around on their space dogs. Lore was a fucking mistake.
>Cortana: I am going to die *sad*
>Chief: I will save you because I am the big man
>Cortana: Oh chief I love you
>Captain: Give me the ai
>Chief: no
>Cortana: Its over for me but I can still save you from a literal point blank nuke blast with magic *kiss*
>Chief: *cries*
If the UNEG tried to fight the annexation instead of willingly join it, then yes. Without genocide on the line, I don't see humanity putting up much of a fight, if at all.
Point is moot anyway considering ,whether by annexation or genocide, humanity losing = galaxy death.
the point is that you're a fucking zealous assburger spaz.
Remember that one time when in Halo 4 the Spartan Ops entire plot was kickstarted when some brainlets took an unknown forerunner artifact onto the ship that was powered with 0.1%-understood forerunner tech without verifying first what it did?
>Humans: do not nuke themselves back into the stone age
mmmm
Oh christ don't remind me of Spartan Ops. I was so hopeful. So naive. eggheads
I was annoyed in Halo 5 when Roland sperged out over people talking about Cortana being decommissioned due to rampancy
>wtf guys you mean not dying when you're supposed to is a bad thing???
yes, dumb ai, the negative consequences of forcibly staying alive past your expiration point is literally the oldest plot point in all of human civilization, you are not special
more like Artificial Stupid am i right?
Why do people want there to be a romance between Chief and Cortana?
>(((prophets))) replacing noble elites with dumb ape brutes as their personal guard because elites can "no longer guarantee safety"
There is nothing wrong with the jiralhanae
There was a local band here in Atlanta a few years ago called High Charity. They sounded a lot like Pearl Jam. They were alright but I can't find any of their shit because of Halo.
Halo players don't, the lowest common denominator demands a romance plot though. The vidya industry is eager to abandon their niches
Why the fuck would Brutes strap a bomb to me and not the buggers you colossal retarded faggots? I'm a biological super-computer created by your Gods, the Yanme'e are literal fucking insects. They are already genetically programmed to use suicide tactics to defend a hive, the Queen will just shit out several hundred more.
You guys deserved to lose the war, I'm going to go help the humans build a stupid gigantic ship or something.
Hey, look at that
this them?
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Did Halo 2 and Halo 3 ever get novelizations like Halo CE did?
Nope.
that's kind of a shame
no, because microsoft and 343 wanted the novels to all be super canon to the games and even killed off characters in said novels instead of just questionable canonicity Expanded universe content like it was in Bungies Reign of the series
Hippity hoppity
your body is my property
Then what is the excuse for Halo 2 not getting a novel
>super canon
No, just equally canon to the games.
The writer Bungie was using wanted to just use the IP to make his own stories in the universe rather than just retreading the games events
Because brutes are dumb and dont understand that