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save scummers BTFOd

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Is that an actual line?

I read it in his voice.

who?

What do you think? Dumbass?

do you fuck black guys daily?

No, it's a tweet from a deeply depressing individual who has no accomplishments to their name but playing a video game the internet called hard.

The majority of people play this trash game on easy and normal where the game literally cheats for them.

he wasnt wrong though

I dont even know what game is it

He meant eggssalt.com

>Every single video games are piss easy
>One studio decide to make a video game a bit harder and advertise it as such
>Retards goes nuclear when they can't finish it as ask for that single game out of thousands to be dumbed down for them

Xcom save abuse is a legit feature whether you like it or not. It always has been. Iron man fags BTFO

>make your 'skill' dependent on dice rolls
yeah bro not every likes gambling over mudane shit

Well yeah, it's a feature to compensate for lack of skill and bugs. Mostly lack of skill.

It's still just video games, bud. Raise a child, start a business, create something. Getting worked up over video games being too easy or too hard is a one way ticket to an awful life.
The quote in question is originally about Sekiro, not X-Com.

>caring about skill in a video game
lmao

>The quote in question is originally about Sekiro
How do you "cheat" in Sekiro? Honest question, I haven't bothered to play or watch the game at all.

>mfw getting my ass whooped by a boss in Sekiro so I'd run to a far corner of the arena and use the idol to teleport the fuck out of there

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The tweet is in response to an article about someone saying they used a trainer to give themselves infinite health on the last boss.

Oh, should have just called that guy a loser. Longer answers always just make you look like a faggot.

This

I don’t get it. It’s just a video game, it’s not like you won an Olympic medal through cheating

Get over yourselves, lmao. If he bought it he can do whatever he wants with his product

2019, retards still trying to push dumb twitter memes on Yea Forums.

>t. millenial

It's real
twitter.com/XCOM/status/1116793107713069056

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GAMERS RISE THE FUCK UP

Secret bonuses to hit aren’t “balance.” Lmfao. Imagine being this cucked.

That's hilarious.

It literally is. But yes, the lower difficulties only exist to coddle shitters.

>get fucked by RNG
>"you are a wimp if you save scum btw!"
Fuck Xcom
better play dark souls if you want a challenging and not retarded SP game or anything that requires patience and skill

There's no skill involved in xcom.

I honestly don't see what's wrong with savescumming, you still learn the game by trial and error, just drastically cut the time you spend on it and possibly the frustration.
Also you do it only in singleplayer so who the fuck cares how you play on your own? Life is hard enough already, at least when playing one can do whatever the fuck he wants.
There I said it, now feel free to call me a faggot.

>t.baby

Savescumming is indeed beneficial to learning, the first couple times around. However, game balance is absolutely fucked if you constantly do it, and completing an entire campaign from start to finish by rolling with the punches is extremely satisfying.

>implying
Different skills.

It’s just one tweet, why you making such a big deal out of it? Have sex.

For one, it’s not a leisure time activity for a journo, it’s literally their job. For two, the fact that video games are a leisure activity makes cheating even more pathetic. That’s squandering precious leisure time, the time you get to choose how you spend, ruining a video game for yourself. What is the point of even playing a game then? It’s already an activity with little meaning, and cheating at it takes even that away.

Depends of the game imo.
Like, it's ok to savescum in STALKER Clear Sky because unpatched the entire combat is unfair and retarded for exemple

Damn... video games are serious business

Who gives a fuck, what makes you a loser is being a video game journalists. They deserve death (in video games)

>Unironically playing X-RNG
Blow it up your ass.

What makes you the authority on acceptable ways total strangers are allowed to have fun?

t. trust me my roulette Strategy works

This “meme” is cringeworthy and would’ve been mocked by Yea Forums years ago for promoting the ebin gamerbro identity but is unironically embraced now

>They deserve death
Base-
> (in video games)
lame

Tactics

Why don’t you call your mother and tell her you love her, before she’s raped and murderer?

>Tactics
>In a game where a 100% shot can miss

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>Savescumming is indeed beneficial to learning, the first couple times around. However, game balance is absolutely fucked if you constantly do it, and completing an entire campaign from start to finish by rolling with the punches is extremely satisfying
Not saying that you are wrong but if the devs actually cared of thought about that they would make it so that savescumming is impossible. If a game lets you do it I think the devs either consider it a legit mechanic (like an optional easy mode) or are lazy and don't give a shit about balance, so why should the player?

As long as the developers allow it, then it is a legit way to play this game. I didnt go an extra mile like that sekiro reviewer to use a mod to win the game. Besides I always thought iron man was meant for a second playthrough. I play xcom2 on normal and Im having a comfy time to he honest.

Sorry bro. Not everyone has your definition of "fun". I don't consider it fun to lose hours of progress because the game is centered around you having experienced soldiers that take in game months to build up only to have a random crit or bullshit pod pull fuck over 40 hours of play time.

I have other games and other things I want to get to in life. It's more fun to me to play it my way than play it the way the developers intended and they're lucky that I'm willing to shell out cash for their bullshit version and modify it rather than just let it fail outright because they failed to design it well.

Why are you so upset?

I don't get it are they making fun of the journo or the guy that tried to make fun of the journo with that long ass text?

>game allows you to do something
>do it
I don't see the problem.

>Have sex

Based unhelpful ostracizer cultivating more mass shooters.

>everyone trashes XCOM despite it having plenty of mods to jack up the difficulty
>but FE Conquest gets jerked off by people who've never played an SRPG before

Do people love gimmick maps that much?

>tell that to doom user
>he gets titled NUH IT'S NOT THE SAME

No it wasn't, and you weren't at Yea Forums "years ago".

At this point they're probably not even aware what its referencing and just doing what they see others doing

REMINDER: You are such a failure as a human being, you can't even play ENTERTAINMENT on hard!

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>Not saying that you are wrong but if the devs actually cared of thought about that they would make it so that savescumming is impossible. If a game lets you do it I think the devs either consider it a legit mechanic (like an optional easy mode) or are lazy and don't give a shit about balance, so why should the player?
That really doesn't make sense at all. You can't limit a players meta tools in such an obnoxious manner that's just terrible. First off, bugs, second off bugs, thirdly, bugs.
Auto-save is really unreliable and nothing feels worse then losing your entire campaign to a corrupted save/glitch/or bug.

Also the base mechanics of the game uses seeded rng, so reloading and taking the same shot over and over again will not yield a different result.

> Besides I always thought iron man was meant for a second playthrough. I play xcom2 on normal and Im having a comfy time to he honest.
Yeah sure. I agree. Playing on that difficulty and not ironmanning works with your current skill level. Eventually you may decide you want more of a challenge or you'll be fine with where you are.

Sorry, doesn't happen. I think there was a 99.5% display bug where your shot rounded up to 100% or something but that was patched out. Besides that, a 100% shot hits always.

wait.. didn't that just show RNG despite xcom babies yelling there is no such thing.

you dont have a pass saying that after developing such a shitty game that requires save loading to finish the game

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Based XCOM

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so many casuals on Yea Forums

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XCOM has RNG. I think you are confused about what people argue about.
The opposing sides are this:
>XCOM has RNG/has too much RNG and thus negates player skill
>XCOM has RNG but player skill negates RNG

You are such a failure of a human being that you invest all of your limited time into “mastering” entertainment that already “cheats” for you and effectively has no practical benefit for you in real life, then somehow hold this as a badge of honor

The reason why people are shit in games is because they invest the time normally spent playing games on other things, like learning a new skill, working, making a project, etc. Beating a virtual toy on “hard” is not an accomplishment, lmao

>That really doesn't make sense at all. You can't limit a players meta tools in such an obnoxious manner that's just terrible. First off, bugs, second off bugs, thirdly, bugs.
Are you talking specifically of xcom? I was speaking in a general way. But then one might say that bugs aren't really a justification, only a sign of incompetence.
Also how would removing savescumming be limiting the "meta options", if you make it so the games works fine without it? Rogue likes do just fine without it.
If you allow it you either want it or don't want to tune to game enough to make it unnecessary, simple as that.
If a game has a broken mechanics it's not the player to be blamed for using it, it shouldn't have been there in the first place.

KEK

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>gambling game
>wtf you savescum wow no skill here's a quippy easty egg, loser

>it's real
kek

Just giving you another perspective. I didn't feel like making sure it was polite.

You're a casual for not playing the much better game: OpenXcom.

You don’t seem like you’re having fun, maybe if you didn’t cheat you wouldnt have to get so upset all the time.

If you had a Reaper you could literally clear them all in one turn.

>twitter.com/XCOM/status/1116793107713069056
based firaxis dabbing on them savescummers

>still assmad about a tweet
>resorts to making shitty meme adaptations to deflect
>b-but don't you think the guy was silly

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>If you allow it you either want it or don't want to tune to game enough to make it unnecessary, simple as that.
The game is tuned enough that it's unnecessary. Also, ironman is a mode that disables saving, so it exists mechanically because the devs support that method of play. But it's too unreliable with bugs. But yes, the devs do cater to a wider skill base and new players by allowing you to save and reload.

>gameplay based on RNG
>guilt trip the player about loading like any sane person would do in that situation
WOOOOOOOOOW

Well maybe don't make shitty RNG-based games where a soldier can miss point-blank shots. I would ask for my money back, but I pirated XCOM1 and honestly regret wasting the bandwidth. I'm happy there are masochists out there who like them, but I'm not going to be buying.

BASED XCOM

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heh

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>Not even making your own bait
twitter.com/pleaserespond47/status/1116800729732255751

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Ok, so you confirm it's there by design and there's no fault in using it. End of the story.

>It's a video game, it's not a big deal.
If it's just a video game then why bother cheating? It's not like you get some prize for winning.

Shortening the playtime on the product you paid for just you can beat it is what is truly pathetic

It's the reviewer's job to play the game. The guy even wrote a guide on how to get past the hard parts of the game. And then he admits he never played the game the intended way. It's completely bonkers that anyone is taking the journalist's side, and it's very sad that people can't understand the context of the quote and are just applying it to everything.

Eh, "there by design" and "no fault in using it" are not quite the same thing, specifically because there are a lot of different way to use it. But I don't disagree with your main premise.

>Sekiro difficultty stir ups controversy online
>Xcom2 a 2yo old and a fairly hard game makes this tweet based on that meme to gain back some popularity
>Coincidentaly is on sale on ps store

You niggas got baited to buy this game again

>buying x-scam
nah, bought sekiro tho

>doing things in real life.
get a load of this guy, it's anime and video games, if you can't do that then just kys

>First reply is WAAAH RNG WAAHHHH
LMAO bitch boy

>mfw I'll continue save scumming whenever I can
Feels comfy man.

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I want casuals to get the fuck off Yea Forums

FUCK YOU!!!!!!!! PLAY HOW I TELL YOU TOO
ASFh EF:OWSERGPSD

Yea Forums STILL doesn't know how to play xcom?

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lmao. I love when you retards say shit like this. "omg why do you even care that its a black guy instead of a white guy". "omg why do you care that people want an easy mode". But then you all turn right around and make a huge stink about NOT having black guys or NOT having an easy mode. You retarded faggots are some of the most hypocritical people.

Only on the babby difficulties

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>Making save/load system into game
>Add "X gimmick" that discourages players for using it
>BUT IT WAS MEANT TO PLAY SO
What the fucking point of that? Why not just use "iron man" mode instead of this gimmick???

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God, you are an insufferable faggot.

Most players aren't good enough. So it's not profitable.

nailed it

The thing with RNG complaints is: don't be in a place where one, two, or even three bad rolls fucks you up.
Become proficient, in other words.
t. Someone poor at XCOM but doesn't blame RNG for his own lack of skill.

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Hang yourself and have fun doing it

If they aren't good enough for XCOCK, then why they are here in first place???

>here
What? You mean on Yea Forums? Most xcom players, like any game, are not on Yea Forums.

But you aren't doing any of that. You're just a loser who can't even win at video games. Sad.

he was wrong, because he implied that you gain something by beating a videogame. you don't.

Uhm, okay...Let's reprahse that...
Why they playing XCOM, if they aren't good enough for it?

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Casuals hate XCOM because they don't understand that the game isn't designed around every one of your soldier's deaths being preventable - it's meant to be a game where you get your shit pushed in and soldiers die and then you get back up and keep fighting until you win. The game is designed such that you can lose a bunch of soldiers and still win in the end and unless you really fuck up in the first couple of months on the hardest difficulty your campaign won't be over because a couple missions went poorly. If your memorial at the end of the game doesn't have a dozen soldiers in it then you're either a savescummer or playing on easy.

XCOM 3 when?

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This one is perfect. Genuinely seems like something that would show up in the game.

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>unless you really fuck up in the first couple of months
this is pretty easy to do though, especially on the harder difficulties. the time between the 5th or 6th mission until you first get someone to major/colonel is pretty fucking brutal

X-Com is a lot more fun if you just never savescum and accept all kind of bullshit that the game trows at you, even if that means losing eveything

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Nah he was entirely right, you gain something aka the enjoyment of actually playing the game. Why else would play a game if you didn't enjoy it what are you fucking retarded lmao

Have you ever used mods?

>XCOM 2: terror of the deep

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this meme pisses me off, the guy had a good point but faggots are spamming it to take the legitimacy of it away. fuck all you

>do ironman legend
>have a rookie that's managed to dodge like 3 shots and a viper tongue coil in the span of 5 missions
>manages to be a colonel ranger late game
>does not give any fucks when I rush out with him using the ability that lets shots automatically miss against him
>get too cocky on a story mission
>try to evac as fast as I can
>same badass colonel ranger was the only one who couldn't make it out because a shitty muton got lucky with a crit
HE DIDN'T DESERVE IT AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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Why is it so hard for some people to understand that overcoming something difficult can be the point of why they play a video game?

If you only play games only for "fun" I don't know how you wouldn't get bored.

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>play game that has RNG based combat as one of its core tenants and that is made for people who appreciate this type of combat
>WOW THIS GAME HAS RNG COMBAT IT'S FUCKING TRASH
I'll never understand you people

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It's not hard to understand. It's a fine reason to play video games. The problem arises when they start saying that other people aren't allowed to like games for other reasons.

I don't get that either. But cheating to win is essentially giving up.

twitter.com/LavenzaHeadpats/status/1115027935478603778
Anyone has more of this?

Are you supposed to lose a few council countries too? Serious question.
(Seems like the hardest time is very early in the game, in that regard.)

now THIS is epic

No actually the reason they're shit in games is because they're spoiled trust fund kiddies or people who get paid $3000/month for doing nothing on Patreon and thus don't value money and treat entertainment like disposable diapers to be used once then disposed of quickly

Yes, it's almost impossible to save all countries unless you are very lucky with the abducion spawns

Okay. I was wondering since I'm still in shitter tier.
I heard that in Long War you can get them back.

It's not technically rng, it's more about skill than anything

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It's because every blue checkmark, journos friends and retards were damage controlling and making it a meme, trying to switch the blame. Redditors of course joined the bandwagon

I didn't save scum, but XCOM 2 literally will fuck you over with its timed shit. It's literally designed to make you take risky decisions because the developers thought that's what made the game fun.

Waifus

They did that because the optimal way to play EU/EW was to sit around and Overwatch camp the AI. Now timers mean you can't waste your time doing that. One thing WOTC did that I liked was make it so a bunch of the mission types don't have their timers start until you break concealment.

He died for you and for XCOM. He was happy to go.

>Overwatch camp the AI.
Not that effective against enemies who also sat there camping.

Based XCOM, gave me a good laff

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I get doing it to some extent, but almost every mission in the base game (at least when I played it last) was 12 turns to complete the entire thing, which is not enough time to play conservatively. You have to make risky decisions, and you are destined to be screwed over at least a few times in a campaign.

allow me to redpill you on how xcom is played

whenever you take a shot, don't even pay attention to whether you land it or not. as far as you should care, you should expect every shot to be a failure and actually hitting is incidental. instead, your thoughts should be focused on making sure your hit chance is as high as possible as often as possible, abusing stuff like flanking, weapon range and elevation to your advantage. if you can just keep your own percentage chances high and your enemies' chances low, you will win 99.9% of time since randomness evens out over the course of dozens of actions. the outcome of a singular shot is essentially meaningless and if you get mad at it, then you are definitely a brainlet who can't properly comprehend odds calculation and probably buys scratch off tickets or something

>yeah but xcom is still random because you might lose even if you do everything right

yes, and in the same vein, winning in sekiro is a little bit random because you never know if your game might crash and mess up your progress. but realistically, we don't really consider it a game of randomness, and neither should you consider xcom because the chance of the RNG fucking you 40 times in a row is next to nothing.

Fake picture aside I usually don't mind save scumming in games. However Xcom is one of the few exceptions to it. I literally can't enjoy my time with these games if I save scum. It drives me fucking crazy.

the timer shit is kind of an annoying bandaid fix on the greater problem that is overwatch. i think firaxis really wants to axe overwatch completely but i guess they might not be able to considering how much people are used to abusing it. i honestly think it shouldn't exist at all, except as a special, limited class ability or something.

XCOM BTFOing journos like they BTFO ayys.

>12 turns
That is plenty of time. 8 turns makes it so you can't stop moving. If you scout with a ranger/reaper then OTK each pod (which shouldn't be too hard if you are keeping up with weapons research).

You can, but you can also lose them much more easily, and always lose one in the first month that will act as the (first) alien base. If they decide to make that country the one on your starter continent with the bonus that you really wanted, too fucking bad for you. Take it back next year maybe when you have the tech and manpower to challenge a base.

1. There's absolutely nothing wrong with tactics games that rely on percentages for its attack resolutions.
2. FiraXCOM is a crap tactics game and X-COM isn't particularly good among tactics games

Both can be (and are) true. You guys ought to be playing Jagged Alliance 2, Silent Storm, Battle For Wesnoth. Hell, you can even play Hard West and Shadowrun Returns.

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>tfw you can't actually prove somebody wrong so you just spam what they said repeatedly and in turn spreading it everywhere

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Jagged alliance never clicked with me for all the hype it gets. All the rest are good. XCOM is a good tactics games.

Based and RNGpilled

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I mean, Reaction Shots are a key part of X-COM, and implementing them in a "lol 2 actions" format is complicated. Overwatch is the shitty half-solution they ran with, and most of their contemporaries apparently like it.

>BTFOd
>blown the fuck outd

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Fun fact, save scumming like in this tweet actually wouldn't work, you would still have the same seed generated at the start of the battle and the outcome would always be the same unless different actions were taken or in different order

>you invest all of your limited time into “mastering” entertainment
>he has to spend time to not be bad at video games
Go ahead and blame your inherent lack of skill on anything you want Sekiro isn't hard enough that you'd ever need to "practice" it you fucking baby.

>He's wrong because he considers a leisure-time activity some life-defining challenge
A fuckload of people do the same, great musicians, vidya developers, chess players, philosophers, you're just a subaverage brainlet.

>acceptable
>allowed
Nobody is talking about outlawing cheesing or cheats in sp games you retard, people are more than within their rights to criticize other people's behavior.

Surprised this has no (you)s. What a legend.

uhh...

There is an option for this actually.

>xcom out of all the rng filled bullshit games is the one memeing the quote
Ironic isn't it?

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>go into sekiro thread and talk about your experiences with the game and that it's not nearly as hard as people pretend it is
>20 butthurt seething (you)s every time
>go into xcom thread and talk about how tiring and boring RNG is, and it's not worth the epic meme
>mostly get ignored or people agree with you

Why are fromfags so sensitive? Everyone has a different skill level, some people are going to be better at a game than others.

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>being in a position where you can be fucked over by one bad shot
you are bad at the game

as far as I remember, XCOM 2 doesn't have that option, though I haven't played it in a while it might been added by now. XCOM: EU has it however

Fucking this. I made a post saying sekiro is easier than bloodborne and I had several people screeching at me that I was wrong.
It's almost like fromfags just want to circlejerk about difficulty and don't actually care about the games themselves.

the absolute state of this thread
if you don't care about video games then go wagecuck some more or something instead, but instead you sit here and complain how much time investment it takes for a hobby and you still feel obligated to know what's behind the challenge
watch a fucking youtube playthrough then, retard

The problem was that the aliens acted in "pods" and the player was literally invincible while the aliens were unactive
The solution to that problem was very simple: remove the shitty pod mechanics in the first place

I’m saving the human race, who gives a shit if I didn’t play fair?

Yeah, I'm sure thats it.

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>Remembering how I strategically set up a perfect shotgun blast to finish off an enemy to stop him from killing any of my team members
>Take shot
>LOL HIS BULLSHIT RNG ARMOR CUT OFF HALF THE DAMAGE FUCK YOU
Xcom doesn't get to criticize you for save scumming

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>watch a fucking youtube playthrough then, retard
they need to spend their money on something to try and justify the 9 to 5

>9 to 5
implying cucks like these don't work overtime

Fuck you NEET I don't have time to git gud I need to wake up early for Mr Goldstein! I paid 60 burgerbux I want to feel like a freakin badass superhero please I swear I'm good at video games!!!!!

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>let your team get fucked
>have to rely on a shot not getting blocked by a mechanic you know exists
>wooooww

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>all these people in this thread who don't play Iron Man in any and all tactic games then are getting roastie about Xcum calling them out
Yikes
cringe
oof

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The entire difficulty debate is fucking retarded, game journos should be fucking ashamed for using disabled people and "I DON'T FEEL BAD ABOUT CHEATING" as pathetic excuses to disguise the fact that they are bad at games and then demand games should be made easier so they don't have to put in as much effort
On the flip side, "get gud" is too often used to defend shit game design used to lazy create artificial difficulty

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You're damaging the experience
The cycle of reward and frustration is integral to a satisfying game, if you remove the challenge, you remove the frustration and thus an essential part of the experience, and that is the point of calling out cheaters.
This is the type of thing that no one who doesnt cheats profusely would mind, you're all pathetic.

game journos should be ashamed of existing
imagine being a '''journalist'''
for video games

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>relying on a single point of failure
You deserved it. You put your team in a position where everything depended on a single shot, when you should have made better choices to avoid it. Learn from this mistake so you can avoid it in the future.

fugggggggggggggggg

this, my Ironman Commander run was the most fun I've had in a tactics game in a long time. Most shitters just can't realize that every move is a risk vs reward decision and sometimes you just have to cut losses, you're given all the needed resources and tools to make comeback no matter how bad situations comes out of a dice roll.

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