The golden age of vidya

The golden age of vidya

I want to go back bros

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>go back
I got you user.

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I think it's actually this one.
Towards the end of that generation, devs mastered the hardware and learned how to actually implement fluid controls.
Online gaming was new and fun, but wasn't full of DLC, microtransactions, or loot boxes yet.
Without DLC/Mt/lb, devs were actually forced to create content for their games. Their games had to survive on their own merit, not on scammy industry practices.
Games were created to be finished. If your game was an unfinished piece of shit, everyone heard about it, and there was no 20GB day 1 patch or DLC to save your ass.

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>couldn't afford any of these so I missed out on gaming with friends
i dont want to go back

And I'm bad at describing stuff, but I felt this way for a long time. Recently saw a video where someone describes it a lot better. I don't mean to advertise for someone else's youtube channel though, and don't want to break any rules, so I will spoiler the link. Watch it if you're interested.
youtube.com/watch?v=HyXypnceDZo

>tfw I finally got a PS3 in 2013 and it was the shitty super slim model for
>the PS4 gets announced a few weeks later
I still haven't opened the PS3 it's fucking useless

>If your game was an unfinished piece of shit, everyone heard about it, and there was no 20GB day 1 patch or DLC to save your ass.
yeah instead they re released the game again asking full retail price. and people actually rebought the game. go figure.

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>OLD = GOOD, NEW = BAD
Remember to sage lads.

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there are literally no good games in the 2010s

If I wanted to say that, I would just say ps1/n64 or even older. Fuck off with your non-argument.

With an amazing multiplayer component and a lot of other content, plus it wasn’t full price on release.

This. there were only like 3 games I liked from the 7th gen

I genuinely feel bad for people who didn't get to experience the magic that was MGS3's online component added with Subsistence. It wasn't even full price but it was pracitcally a new game.

Might as well salvage the hard drive if you can't be bothered with it

Are YOU the one who's genuinely retarded? He gave a well put argument as to why he thought the older gen was better, not just
>this game has SOUL

I dont remember it being that much lower. nevertheless I was poorfag and wouldn't buy the same game twice. sucks doubly so considering the re release killed all chances of selling my copy and buying subsistence because no one would buy it.

That's more of the silver age of vidya, this is there golden age.

The original MGS3 was neither shitty nor unfinished. Subsistence was a like a special edition and it came with an awesome online component as other anons said, as well as the two original Metal Gear games for the MSX.

It was just a special edition, but you got two new (old) games with it that you probably didn't play before, or three new games if you count the online component as its own game.

I think it was like $30. Back then, $50 was the norm for new games, not $60 like it is now. $30 out of $50 isn't that much I guess but still not full price.

the top down camera was designed for the minimap and visual cones which were absent in mgs3 and replaced with the camo system. in result the gameplay in mgs3 was a horrible mix of first person spamming to scout for people and going through menus to change your camo. the third person camera fixed the problem of having to scout with first person.
the game wasnt unfinished true but some of the game play elements clearly didnt go through extensive playtesting.

>you'll never go back to 2004 and buy the new Nintendo DS.
>you'll never go back

me too my friend

me too...

>spend an hour calling someone a faggot in a Cod4 lobby
>add them as friend afterwards
>play together for the next five years

>first console generation with hardware fail states due to instability
There's plenty of good games from this gen but every console here is gutter trash, probably the worst console generation based on hardware alone
I feel genuinely sad for anyone who considers this a golden age of vidya
PSP and DS were the best things of this time period, hands down

>I want to go back to brown and bloom games in narrow corridors

>implying original 3 was unfinished
>implying subsistence didn't include a metric ton of extra features as well as a goofy online component to make the game have even more replay value
>implying it was full priced
Your underage is showing hard

I hope the world will end before the zoomer nostalgia becomes a thing.

Nah, games are better than ever, the hardware was just shit for awhile

These consoles still exist go and play them

>You will never buy lootcrates in overwatch again
>I want to go back to that golden age...

funny calling me an underage when you dont have the attention span to read the whole thread before throwing out a reactionary reply.

The grass is always greener on the other side

>red ring of death machine
>$600 piece of shit with no games
>motion control toy
The real golden age was the 6th generation.

The life of this one piece of hardware was the golden era.

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Bloodborne

>you will never sit down with your wife and kids knowing the fuhrer is exterminating the Jewish menace

this, also worth noting was there was very little open world cancer in the PS2 gen, and the very few games that had an open world did it right even if the graphics weren't the best.

how easily we all forget

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Maybe I'm an exception, but I'm 20 and I have much more nostalgia for generation 6 than 7. The PS2 in particular will always be my favorite game console.

This. Certain PS2 games, like GTA SA or Jak II pulled it off very well, but these days devs just make a big open world for its own sake, with nothing interesting in it.

You didn't miss a lot. Demon's Souls and LittleBigPlanet were the only noteworthy exclusives.

>play only racing games because Im an autist

alright heres a quick rundown

>ps1/n64 era, godly games but shit framerate
>ps2/gamecube era, godly games
>first half of x360/ps3 era, godly games
>suddenly cod4 popularity explodes
>devs all decide to chase the normie audience
>back half of x360/ps3 era, games now designed for brainlets.
>dont add more cars or features or fix things fans had been asking for
>just add shit like "hurr durr rewind time if you spin out in a corner"
>and "hey you can draw penises on your cars XD!"
>and "too lazy to play through the game? for $19,99 pay to unlock everything!"
>and "we've retooled our driving physics for a cinematic experience!"

fast forward to 2019

>nfs is dead
>midnight club is dead
>project gotham is dead
>forza horizon 4 is somehow worse than the first game
>the crew 2 is open world trash.

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There is no golden age of vidya, every single generation has had its problems/limitations. Everyone just hates this generation because it’s become solely based on profit to the point that devs will literally release a franchise ending game just because they know people will buy it for the name.

Corporations are responsible for this.

Stupid fucking zoomer.

Well looks like the world already ended. "90s kid" nostalgia is phased out on the internet, Gen Z nostalgia for 2007-2012 is now popular. In a few years we'll get gritty reboots of Angry Birds and Minecraft.

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>tfw phat ps2 with fhdb installed, hooked up to ps3 controller via Bluetooth
>tfw ps3 slim jailbroken alongside it
>tfw the colossal free library of games at my fingertips.
Ahh yeh

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The ps2 was great. Four thousand titles. I still dig up games for it that interest me.

Too bad PS2's video output looks like shit even compared to its contemporaries

Pcsx2 has some aa hacks for the graphics prudes

I've seen this guy's reviews and it kinda bugs me how he tries to cram as much details into every sentence as possible

It was the end of the Golden Era. Golden Era being from the snes to the ps3. As soon as online became the focus instead of a side-thought, the Age was over. Prior to this gen, the focus of most games was the game itself, not the community, not the esports viewers, not the reaction videos, not the tweets. You can see all that shit start to creep in during the end of last gen, but they weren't the main things.

Secondly, it was the last gen where you could start a brand new IP and see an entire trilogy released in the same gen. Last gen to have a healthy balance of single and multiplayer. Last gen to have good sports games across almost every genres/sport. Top tier boxing games, skateboard games, snowboarding, two types of mma games, baseball games for everyone, arcade sports games and more.

Definitely the last of the golden era. Only downside is because it was the end it, Japanese devs started to falter.

Cringe
Based

Who gives a fuck. They gotta worry about the faggots coming up after them. Every wave will contain even more faggotry than the last.

>everything is brown era

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Only real gamers will remember when it was the Nintendo Revolution.
;) :0 xD

Golden age was 1998 + 1999, gave us the best PC games ever made.

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based

>Most genres were dead
>Most franchises were on a low point
Why do you think that?

I was born mid to late 90s and I always get fucking lumped in with the zoomers by people

I loved the Gamecube so much brehs.
Why didn't it have any games
It DESERVED to have games.
Being a Gamecube owner killed my interest in gaming. Fuck all the developers and their Sony cock gobbling

That's not the golden age, that's just what you played when you were a kid.

this

If you don't remember 9/11 you're a zoomer belieber who grew up on icarly

that's not PS2 you fucking zoomer turd

>user posts a brainlet
>he's the one that is the actual brainlet
Every time!

This is true and it's why the gen after it was so goddamn exciting. The Wii and ps3 launch was some of the hypest shit I've ever experience, and the last time people seemed to really give a big fuck about consoles launching, and it was all because of how incredible this previous gen had been.

B-but icarly is good.

>Tfw I own all 3 and regularly play games on them
>Tfw my PS4 is almost entirely untouched since purchase

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how is someone in their twenties supposed to relate with the new generation?

People in their early 20s are zoomers. Mid 20s and up are millennials.

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>RRoD
>No games + $599
>Waggle fest shovelware

so how is someone that literally straddles the definition between zoomer and millennial supposed to be considered either

IF YOU DON'T REMEMBER 9/11 YOU'RE A ZOOMER. READ THE FUCKING PICTURE. BORN 97 AND UP.

what games do you play on xbox?

Zoomer by default.

more like golden shower age

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This was the only console generation nearly made me quit playing video games. Golden age my ass.

Some day there will be streaming MS consoles where you dont anything and games constantly get their content altered when someone gets triggered or taken offline forever and there will still be people who'll post about how it was the last great gen and how they want to go back.

tl;dr best gen is when you the person reading this were 12.

Imagine being middle-aged and faggots call you a millenial

You can emulate them, together on one machine.

There are other sources that give different birth years, but who is to say those years that straddle between the two should be considered either?

Zoomer by default? Would you say the same of millennials towards the end of gen x?

Best 2D era = SNES
Best 3D transformation = N64, PS1
Disapointing = Gamecube, Xbox
Still going great/building on the good = PS2
Handheld perfectioned = PSP
Decent followup = PS3
Slowly downhill = Xbox 360, Wii
Saving gaming = 3DS
Danger territory = PS4, Xbox One
Consoles and handhelds are dead levels = Wii U, Vita
Back to danger territory = Switch

PC gaming has always been the highest tier gaming, but consoles and handhelds are great to tinker with and play console exclusive games on.

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Well original millennials (class of 2000) are 37 which is close to 40 now. Time flies.

360?

Deathsmiles, Fable 2, bunch of other shmups, etc.

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>OLD = GOOD, NEW = BAD!
I am 27, I grew up with the fucking Xbox and Gamecube and PS2, and then later with the Xbox 360 etc. All you are fucking doing is cherry picking and seeing the past through rose tinted glasses.

Did the past have good games? Some of them, yes. IT ALSO HAD A TON OF SHITTY FUCKING GAMES THAT YOU ARE DELIBERATELY NOT MENTIONING. Do some current-day games suck? Yes. BUT THERE ARE ALSO INSANELY GOOD GAMES THAT ARE MADE THESE DAYS. Like GTA V, RDR 2, Breath of the Wild (I've not played it but I know it was critically acclaimed), Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice, Super Mario Odyssey, Metal Gear Solid V, God of War (2018), Resident Evil 2 (2019).

Some of those are single-player only, but there is also a plethora of well-rated multiplayer games you can play these days too. Shooters like PUBG, Destiny 2, The Division, Black Ops 4, Apex Legends, Battlefield V. Or sports games like FIFA 19, NBA 2K19, etc. Or popular online racing games like Gran Turismo Sport, Forza 7, Forza Horizon 4, iRacing, Assetto Corsa, rFactor 2, F1 2019, Project Cars 2, etc.

>LE BORN IN LE WRONG GENERATION XD
>ONLY LE NINETIES KIDS WILL KNOW THIS XD
Shut the fuck up you stupid little twats.

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>insanely good
>gta v
ouch

The future is always better because more and better games, while the old ones are still available as well.
New games are perceived as shit because us boomers are no longer the target audience and all the genres and themes we wanted and bought no longer sell. Fixed camera Resi, WW2 singleplayer shooters, shmups, arena shooters, nobody buys these games anymore because younger gamers no longer want that shit.

Our time is over, we still got our games and indie titles catering to our needs, but the industry has a new majority to please and it isn't us.

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>27
>grew up with mid generation of consoles
either you're full of shit or you literally only started vidya once you were a teen

I'm still playing on the PS3. I don't think there are many games this current gen that make it worth transitioning to. Besides, there's a lot of decent PS3 games that are very cheap these days worth the price admission.

>LE PAST WAS BETTER!
>ONLY LE NINETIES KIDS WILL KNOW THIS XD!
I suggest you go fucking kill yourself you worthless sack of shit.

>The future is always better because more and better games, while the old ones are still available as well.
I agree.

My first home console was an N64, then I got an Xbox in 2002 (when it released in Europe; it was 2001 in North America). So I was 11 at that time. And I didn't actually get an Xbox 360 until I had a salaried job in 2015, partly because during my teens I was more interested in drinking and drugs. But I did used to play my brother's 360, which he got in 2005 I think. And my friends had 360s and PS3s.

What was the last "Real" era with soul here?

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>if you don’t like gta5 than that means you only like nintendo games and also live in the past
Or maybe it’s a shit game.

Perhaps you're right when it comes to games but the industry itself is getting worse though.

Imagine being this retarded.

Late Gen Y was.

>ONLY LE NINETIES KIDS WILL KNOW THESE GAMES OF THE PAST WHICH WERE SOOOOO MUCH BETTER, AMIRITE GUISE!
>TODAY'S GAMES SUCK GUYS! THINGS WERE SO MUCH BETTER WHEN US NINETIES KIDS WERE GROWING UP WEREN'T THEY? XD

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you're really obnoxious and cringe and I'd rather not read your eyesore of posts anymore

>outs himself as a secondary who barely played vidya while younger
>pretends to be a 90's kid while mocking 90's kids
go back to your halo, fag

Jesus fucking Christ stop spamming this

Stop responding to bait.

Why is it that despite the videogame industry growing and making more money, games are getting more expensive? Should it not be the opposite?

>I-I’ll just say it again! It’ll be true this time!
There are lots of people who aren’t the N1ntoddler straw man you’re trying to use that don’t like gta5. A lot of them found it disappointing compared to gta4. You’re embarrassing yourself.

>You will never again play RE5 for the first time on christmas day and finish it on boxing day
Fug

>during my teens I was more interested in drinking and drugs
Oh, it's just some degenerate who thinks his shitty opinion matters.

Do you know if there's an HDMI adapter for ps2? i really hate having to play AV on my 4K TV. Looks like crap.

>LE NINETIES KIDS KNOW IT BEST AMIRITE GUISE? EVERYTHING WAS BETTER IN MY GENERATION! XD
That's the sum of your "argument". That's the sum of what your tiny fucking brains are capable of. "NEW GAME BAD BECAUSE IT'S NEW AND I DON'T LIKE NEW THINGS! THINGS WERE BETTER WHEN US NINETIES KIDS WERE GROWING UP!"

Absolutely pathetic.

I'm mocking people who look at the past with rose-tinted glasses. If you can't evaluate games objectively then you deserve ridicule.

If you didn't drink and do a couple of substances as a teenager then I think there's something fundamentally wrong with you. Did you grow up in a fucking convent or something?

Yes but it's not going to improve image quality (compared to RGB/Component)
There's somebody who's re-implementing the internal video DAC to output a pure, digital output.
twitter.com/chriz2600/status/1076912445942386688?s=09

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>If you didn't drink and do a couple of substances as a teenager then I think there's something fundamentally wrong with you

Hey, just because you had a shitty childhood / bad parents doesn't mean everyone does.

The worst that teens in my country do is smoke tobacco.
I guess you live in some 3rd world country where drugs are sold to kindergarten kids

>gta4 came out in the 90s

more like the dark ages, it's when cancer started flooding the industry more and more

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No I live in a first-world country, and the majority of kids my age at least smoked weed. If you never did then that's fine, but you're in the minority.

No it came out in 2008. I thought I'd tell you because it doesn't look like you have the mental capacity to search for such information, let alone retain it. And since you're also too stupid to understand the relevance of nineties kids then I guess I will have to explain that as well: kids born in the nineties were teenagers in 2008.

There, that wasn't so hard, was it? Next time try using your brain.

The majority is full of low IQ retards that most of us were never hanging out with to begin with.

>but you're in the minority.
deluded.
Don't project your ghetto life to the rest of us,

>the majority is something I wasn't a part of
>most of us

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4th & 6th gens were better. 7th gen sucked.

>dark ages
Good choice of words, there was a serious video game drought for a long fucking time during that time period.
We had all these shitty games coming out with almost no depth or substance. It took a long fucking time to overcome the drought, but by then the PS4 was already coming out.

>all those greys and browns

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FUCK OFF TARDO ZOOMERS, REEEEEEEEE GET THE FUCK OUT OUT OUT OUT OUT OOOOOOOOOUT

>implying the golden age of vidya is when YOU were 10 years old
No, no, no! The golden age of vidya is when *I* was 10 years old!

>playing fucking mario at 27
>soi of war
>wahoooooooooooooooooooooooooo
eat shit you escaped ash tray

I looked it up and the data I could find shows that 47.8% of American 12th grade pupils in 2018 had used an illicit drug in their lifetimes, so it's a little less than half, but barely. And in the last few years it has normally been around 49% - in 2017 it was 48.9% for instance, and it was even 49.9% in 2011. Between 1996 and 2005 inclusive, it was over 50% of 12th graders that had used an illicit drug in their lifetimes; the high point was 54.7% in 1999.

Table: monitoringthefuture.org/data/18data/18drtbl1.pdf
Linked to from here: monitoringthefuture.org/data/18data.html#2018data-drugs
Which is linked to from this US government website (the link that says "2018 Data From In-School Surveys"): drugabuse.gov/related-topics/trends-statistics/monitoring-future

And if you think about it, once people have gone to university, then even more of them will take drugs. I knew people at uni who had never done drugs before who then tried weed. It's pretty common for people to try weed at university.

So it's probably going to be at least half of young people who have used some form of illicit drug (most commonly cannabis, of course) at some point in their lives.

You must have had a very sheltered upbringing. Spent too much time at home with your parents I guess?

I haven't played that Mario game, nor have I played God of War. I just mentioned games that have been critically acclaimed in the last few years. And I deliberately mentioned games from a variety of genres, to try and cover most bases.

Sorry that you're too stupid to understand the gist of what I was saying.

>I looked it up and the data I could find shows that 47.8% of American..
so a 3rd world country? got it

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I'd more-so say 4th gen was the golden age, while 6th gen was the second renaissance. In both eras third parties pretty much perfected their craft and made some very polished games. It's not to say 3rd and 5th weren't good, but they were less refined. Those were the awkward teen years of 2D and 3D.

>an autistic dude weed lmao screeching this hard because people think the industry has changed
And they say Yea Forums is dead

>no counter argument, just a stale meme
AAA game devs sicking bots on Yea Forums confirmed?

Cmon now...the Wii...looks a DIL-DO!

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>ABAP
God damn what a legend. Trolled the fuck outta people with that.