The great debate

Second Banana is good if you are alone and don't have quick access to health kits
Sandvich is good if you are with a medic so if the medic is wounded he can be healed easily
Beef is good for Medieval mode and especially pairing it up with the boxing gloves
Chocolate isn't very viable unless you want to 1v1 a demo

That's just like your opinion, bro

Not him but what's so bad about it?

t. mad scunt main
if youre so assblasted at the natasha, how about you meet mr strange detonator

The fish cake

None of the above, the Fishcake is the supreme race

Its also good for fucking over cocky demo knights and soldiers who love rocket jump

I bet you were one of the same people who got buttblasted about the Sandman

Dalokhos
Fists of steel
Jump on the cart and never leave

>medic is fairly far away healing other people
>jump behind a corner and eat my sandwich
>halfway through medic runs up and ubers me out of nowhere
>doesn't even switch to another ally
Wtf was he thinking

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nah im good at deflecting
and 99% missed the cleaver followup anyways

what was his health at?

It's a shit weapon that is only used by retards that think it bothers scouts and demos

It was full

what hat was he wearing?

It’s good for when you’re using the Brass Beast and want to do damage without committing to a painfully long spin up.

panic attack when using the huelong heater

fucking seething scout turd

>it's just a shit weapon that doesn't bother anyone
Lol, then why the fuck are you getting so booty that I use it?

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its for shooting scouts without having to rev

He was mostly stock, but he was smart enough to know what I was doing because he got upset at me for doing it

>No always having 1 piece of mean, 1 piece of salty snack, 1 piece of chocolate and 1 piece of fruit

I use the stock Shotgun on Heavy, Pyro, and Soldier at all times. Fuck gimmicks and FUCK being limited to one weapon.

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>implying there was any debate about whether Valve developed content is better than community developed content

Hmm I wonder why TF2 sucks now...

Banana is almost universally better for pub heavy, otherwise sandvich is better for healing your medic buttplug

Best to Worst
Banana
Sandvich
Buffalo Steak
>shitbar

Their was a time when the Dalkols was much greater... But such joys were left long behind us...

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>Start up the ritual
>3 scouts walk into spawn and start screeching at me, trying to get me vote kicked

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Speaking of heavy: Any way to get the old viewmodel for the minigun back?

>be heavy
>medic starts to pocket me
>after a while, medic pops uber
>whip out Sandvich and start eating

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Change it back

No seriously. Change it back, this nerf needs to end before it gets bigger

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Also this

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Toss in the Caber and Sticky Jumper and you have a deal.

No.
Ambassador took huge mechanical skill and was still outplayable with proper movement. It was balanced.

The sandman came down to half prediction(luck) and memorizing a simple arc with a massive projectile. It had a somewhat broken effect that goes against the game with 0 counterplay.
It can be reworked however, it's current state is garbage and unjustified

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Yes. That's fine.
They're fun items that had no obvious advantage but rather just an enjoyable playstyle.

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Ok we'll do it.
t. Valve, who read 4channel threads

What the point of Fists of Steel
Lets talk about heavy melee wep too

I can't believe they nerfed my sticky jumper. I just wanted to slam my head into the skybox at lightspeed.

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They let you tank damage

fists of steel is now the best since GRU got nerfed

solo - second banana
sandvich - part of a medic team or solid frontline
dakoloh's - quick health boost for a sac play
steak - memes such as playing 2fort

Thank you.

It used to be a secured way to get to a place while taking reduced damage or escaping.
Now it's just pretty shit

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All of these. Why don't they just let us have our fun before the game completely dies, why do they have to go and nerf shit?

compfags

>he sandman came down to half prediction(luck)
No, you could do it that way, but you can do that with literally every non-hitscan weapon in the game.
>and memorizing a simple arc with a massive projectile.
What the fuck the ball is not massive, it's small as shit.

Prove it.

My entire point was to make fun of the Amby poster for being autistic where it brings no benefit to them.

>"N-N-NOOOOOOOOO!!! MY MOVEMENT SPEEEEEEED! STOOOOOOOOOP!!!"
>*WHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR*

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>TFW you haven't played in months and you want to but you know that everyone will kick your shit in because you are rusty.

I have a few days free ahead of me and I kind of want to play. But I also have other games I've been enjoying that I'm pretty ok at. And I really don't want to get stomped/stomp every game, just wanna relax.

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Sure thing you fucking lyar, I know work at valve, show us Gabe's mealing room

I'm wondering, isn't it possible to get an old version of the game from during the Engie Update? Why not get that version, release it and make servers for it?

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Stomping and getting stomped happens regardless of your skill anyway.

You've overestimating how good the average TF2 player is. I recently got back into the game after a 2 year hiatus and still topscore every time.

>Now it's just pretty shit
People are using it over the GRU now.
That's how bad the nerf to GRU is.

Decrease the accuracy cooldown by a half
Keep the speed decrease but add a visual effect where the player's view is twisted, similar to stun grenades in TFC
Decrease the sticky jump's clip but increase reload speed. Make the caber only do high damage when airbone (sorta like a one hit wonder market gardener)

No. Revert the nerf.

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Nah that's retarded
might as well just give the sniper a watch while your at it
Amby should still get some kind of buff though to the short range damage

>Keep the speed decrease but add a visual effect where the player's view is twisted, similar to stun grenades in TFC
The speed decrease should be upped by 10x, though. It's barely noticalbe right now

Banana all day.

Banana is shite, so is dalokohs. Sandvich is superior for the simple fact that eating it will guarantee to bump you back to full health. The banana and dalokohs just feel like wasting time and are shit for teamwork because it barely heals teammates. The Sandvich is and will always be the perfect Heavy secondary.

I feel like decreasing dodging works better as a secondary effect. Scout already is mobile enough and making his target basically stand still while also hard to fight back would make things too easy.

Revert it but all crits turn to minicrits at long range. Now he no longer "takes Sniper's role."

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>A salty Tf2 Balance Team member
not as salty as you

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>see pic related
>decide to make it irl
>it's actually really fucking good
Always eat them at work, anyone got some other good sandwich recipes?

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>kill people with the KGB
>free Frontier Justice for a couple of seconds

Banana is best for fire and that recharge is very helpful.

Holy shit this is actually really good. How the fuck didn't valve think of this?

Not really, Sandvich bumps your health back up completely which is really handy in multiple situations. Having full health is objectively superior to having 210-270 health

This never ceases to make me happy

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Wtf, this is how you build a sandvich?
I've been aluminum scrap, sawdust, and cardboard this whole time. No wonder I don't get any HP back.

kek

Family business.

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Family business sucks, shotguns for heavy sucks in general though