I PROTECC BRETONNIA >__<

For me its popo peepee.

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Fun as fuck to play on open field battles, awful in siege battles (which are 90% of battles) so the campaign's overall horrible. But occasionally you get an open field battle and you get to slam your Grail Chads into the backs of the enemy and punch zombies, elves and your own smelly peasants alike into the fucking sun and it feels orgasmic.

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There aren't any female ogres or giants

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I've managed to get gud at every faction other than vampirates, any tips?

>More gunnery mobs with handguns, six in a stack bare minimum, pistols/bombers are both shit so don't bother
>Deck Droppers with handguns are amazing, just keep them out of enemy ranged units and they'll tear things up, two in every stack
>Depth Guard are overpriced and not really that good, if you need an unbreakable front line the answer is Rotting Prometheans (their big, spread apart formation let your gunners shoot between their models, and their melee defense and missile resist is so high they'll almost never die
>Necrofex Colossus is the strongest unit in the game, and you can get them shockingly early (by turn 30) through pirate ship upgrades

Although frankly their campaign map bonuses are so retardedly strong (no attrition, can settle anywhere, can encamp at 0%, can create coves with agents, can raise dead AND global recruit AND local recruit with ships) that playing them feels like cheating anyway, so I don't know where your trouble is.

Yes there are. You just wouldnt want to fuck any of them.

Yes there are the current Giants are inbred offsprings of the Sky Titans and the Ogres have them definetly.

Rule, Bretonnia!

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>tfw you really wanna get into this game but suck at it even at easy
At least i can slap rats around in vermintide i guess.

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What are you specifically having trouble with? If it's battles, just hammer and anvil, and make sure you bring armour piercing units if needed. If the campaign map, make sure you have max walls on every settlement so you never lose territory and focus solely your home province on recruitment, with every one you conquer dedicated to economy.

>paid $47 for all warhammer 2 content plus game
>played tutorial seemed easy enough
>play campaign with vampire coast chick with halbred
>take first settlement the game urges you to take
>go to take second one
>get ambushed by 20/20 shielded high elves and gunners can't do shit against them
>find out only good melee with faction is some armored low numbers shit I can't get yet
>can't win a single battle against the high elves
>quit out of frustration

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MY KNIGHTLY VOWS!

>elves were so shit one of their deities chose to raise humans as her champions because human girth is that strong
>hate her own kind of much because they are all self centred snob asshats whos heads are so far up their own ass they simply cannot be truely righteous
>turns out the Empire was so corrupt at its core that it could barely rear any mortal champions
>Franz and Louen fight together in the final battle because the Empire is fractured due to robber barons and money grabbing kikes who run for the hills
Their alliance shouldve been a more prevalent feature of the franchise.

Faction of paladins, go smite evil with fire coated swords and /fa/ armour.

There was an excerpt I remember reading that a writer for the Brettonian lore/codex HATED Brettonia because they simply hated that it was copying reality, as in, crusaders, while Empire was adapted from reality too but they had a more open mindset allowing for different kinds of scenarios to play out. When the game first started all the factions were caricatures, the Empire at one point was a militiristic nation that was lead by rulers who were only interested in money, they would use propoganda to fuel the war machine and send the plucky average joe to die for reasons they didnt ever know. Now they are just the "good guys" of the setting because the writers found them much easier to empathize with and create narratives and armies for. To be fair, there are less stories to tell around Bret, since everything would revolve around Ze Lady sooner or later and they are hard to empathize with since they are xenophobic to all but dwarves, who they are/were apparently close allies to, more so than even the Empire.

Would be fun if the cav would work just as good as in Med 2

Holy shit, that's pathetic.

>gets shit on by a standard vampire lord

They have one of the most awful starts of the races. Piss poor economy that is made worst if you recruit peasants into the army. And you cant do anything considered un-chivalrous. If you do manage to get pass the stage though and get the grail knights and Grail Guardians, they'll wreck everyone and it's so awesome having a field of demigod knights charging into the enemy and skewering them all.

Mostly the map i guess. I have Ai dokmstack nothin personall my capital the second i leave for more than one turn distance. Guess i can quite balance expansion and number of lords.

>try to get into total war games
>tutorial is set up to win so don't learn anything useful
>set up range behind melee and wait for enemies to charge
>they start shooting archers at melee while moving and their calvary side flanks my gunners
>gunners keep skirmishing backwards everytime they rush
>enemy with low health runs away but then rushes back immediately
>units keep chasing the retreating enemies and other enemies all converge on my chasing units
>lose every battle

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With the red line buffs and ranks the grail/heavy cav can achieve a similar strength but I agree that they are certainly not as dumb strong as they are out of the box like they were in med 2

Pause until you dont need to

The Red Baron is not a standard vampire user. Also why the fuck did they make Alberic a heroic lord and not literally any other lord.
>there is a literal Guts knight
>theres a monster hunter knight
>a knight so angry at everything that he is called "the frother" by dwarves, and actually scares dwarves as a sort of campfire story
But we get
>the knight that worships a minor diety alongside the Lady
Theres nothing particularly interesting about him, its odd that this is the one they went with

Well, it depends on your faction, but you should focus on building up a single strong stack over multiple weak stacks. Your capital should be safe even left alone, because the AI is horrible at offensive siege battles. You can pound them while they run to the walls, pull off them when they start climbing and fall back to chokepoints in the streets and your ranged units will destroy them. As for the rest of your provinces, like I said you should get maxed out wall upgrades on them, and the AI will almost never attack you. Then you just focus on gaining territory.

Green Knight and Abhorash fighting hordes of Chaos right to the the end of End Times was one of the very few awesome moments.

>Lore/Codex writers hates Bretonnia
Yes.
I dont remember if he was the same who wrote their only good novels, but that guy hated them too.
Overall they were left to die in the sewers with their lore gutted beforehand and their satirical exaggerations like not caring about all the peasants and the death of 90% or their Navy being the strongest while nobody is allowed to use Black Powder weapons etc.

Although I am a Druchiichad, I cannot deny the S+ lewds that Welfs can produce.

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Here's where you went wrong.

>they start shooting archers at melee
You should have shielded units at the front. Unshielded units will be pincushioned at the start of the fight but shielded ones will be fine, and the AI will generally shoot at whatever's closest. You only need two shielded units, stretched wide to cover all their archers' line of fire.
>their calvary side flanks my gunners
You should either have your own cavalry to meet them, if you win the cavalry fight you can flank their ranged units instead which is a massive blow. Failing that you should have a unit or two of spears held back to defend your ranged units against this. Almost any unit of spearmen will mop the floor with almost any unit of non-elite cavalry.
>gunners keep skirmishing backwards everytime they rush
This one isn't really your fault - there's an option to turn off 'skirmish by default', use that. I have no idea why it's enabled by default, it's horrible in almost all situations. You only EVER want it when you specifically have units with both 'move while firing' and '360 degree firing', like Wood Elves skirmish archers.
>enemy with low health runs away but then rushes back immediately
You can either pursue them until they're shattered (their morale bar disappers - this means they will never come back), ideally with dogs or light cavalry which will shatter them in seconds, or use the opportunity to reform your line and wait for them to slam back in. If you were already winning enough to break them, you're gonna win even more when they come back. Alternatively, if most of their army's routing and there's only a couple units left, you could slam into those remaining units and try to cause a chain rout to win on the spot.

This probably sounds like a lot to take in but it all boils down to 'flank the enemy, don't get flanked yourself' and 'match up their units to your counters to those units'.

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Threadly reminder that Sigmar is just a man and the representation of homosexuality and that true men of the Empire worship King Taal instead.

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CA keeps ignoring the ones who needs updates. Looking at the greenskins here!

never trust a woman

How do I counter shielded units

Someone explain for a chemistrylet helium and hydrogen aren't supposed to be reactive right, only in the sense of the nuclear fusion right?

Charge their asses once they've engaged.
Shields only protects them from projectiles, you can still out-melee them.

Once they are engaged you can either flank them from behind or move your ranged units to the side of the battle line and fire in.
Shields only protect from the front, so moving your archers to the flanks and working your way down the line with them can shred the entire main line and quickly leads to a chain rout, that your cav and then turn into a full victory if you moved them back to deal with enemy ranged as they are now in a great position to shatter routing units coming their way.

Armored infantry (there are extremely few shielded units that also have armor piercing). Shields only protect from the front and against missiles, so superior infantry in general will work. You can also rear charge or shoot them in the back. Monstrous units will work too, just make sure they're standing with your infantry (hitting over your guys' heads as a force multiplier) rather than among the enemy, because they'll die quickly if surrounded. You have tons of options.

Damn, that's some nicely painted chainmail.

Made no sense how the chaos factions had actual gods backing them and the empire didnt have an actual god.

But they sure fixed that in Age of Sigmar

Hydrogen goes boom, but it does need oxygen as well.

The lady protector of Bretonnia is pretty awesome. Kinda wish she was a warrior instead of a spellcaster though, just to avoid gender stereotypes.

Eh, this game series was made at such an unfortunate time. Right in the middle of The Creative Assembly going politically correct, so it's kind of a mixed bag. The first game has a lot of lame stuff like completely lily white and male-only Empire and Dwarf armies while the sequel has cool stuff like extra recognition given to feminine lords like Saltspite and Direfin.

>Try to play Skaven
>Get my ass kicked every two seconds because my moral breaks almost instantly
>Just resort to auto-resolving everything because the game is retarded and counts only pure numbers and not troop quality when it comes to auto resolving

use your numbers to flank, pin the valuable enemy units with your expendable ones and shoot them with artillery

All the other are actual Gods tho.
Which depends which Edition on the explanation of Gods you want to follow.
There were divine spells caused through Gods and other miracles its just Sigmar is always portrayed the most and we dont see much of the others.

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DONT YOU DARE SPEAK ILL OF MY WAIFU YOU FILTHY PEASANT

Warhammer lore never made any sense.

More artillery. Lots more. No, more than that. Keep going. You still don't have enough. Trust me, if you have to ask, you don't have enough. Now throw a few more artillery in for good measure. Still not enough? Maybe a cheeky two or three more catapults, just to be on the safe side. Finally, round it off with a bit more artillery, and you're good to go.

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Depends.
Discussing the concept of Gods is the single thing I really hate because it changed so much and so drastically over the time.

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t. future Chaos Spawn

Yeah but how many doomwheels should I take?

The same as rat ogres. When you feel a swimming sense of pride, joy and invincibility at the very sight of your glorious warriors, you can probably stop.

>Their alliance shouldve been a more prevalent feature of the franchise.

If they hadn't been so hated by the writers, there were two gud directions that Bretonnian lore could've gone.
>become frens with the Empire, teaching them magic shit and having based Louen anschluss the Oak faggots and inserting benis into Fayfu to create a line of primarchs
>Bretonnian Navy convinces Louen to get the nobles to stop being semen slurpers, modernize the country to Arcanum-lite, and learn from Ulthuan tricks to become a colonial empire with peasants still getting fucked by working in the factories

Such a waste, like the entire setting

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where are the beastwomen

ride out

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COLD BLOODED KILLERS

VLAD

THE TRUE VON CARSTEIN

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>setting a bunch of normal mortal men armed with simple swords and muskets into a triangle formation and watching them melt an entire line of Chaos's chosen champions in their best magic armor and weapons then running them down as your men shout to Sigmar and the slaves of Chaos run back to the Chaos Wastes in fear

The best feeling.

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I can go one better.

>Bunch of ordinary mortal halberdiers with nothing but faith, steel, and balls the size of grapefruits going toe to toe with a Star Dragon and sending it running for its life

>a mob of naked midgets sprint to mob around an ancient Dragon Orge Shaggoth the size of a mountain and melt him in seconds as he barely has time to even try running away in terror from the manlet rage

THE EMPIRE ENDURES

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It took this long for him to get the trident so is likely they simply wanted the simplest one possible so they could reuse the generic lord model

RATLING GUNS, JEZZAILS AND FUCKING WARP NUKES

I can't wait to custom battle four ai armies of peasants sieging a town full of skaven jezzails, or a fucking ambush battle with 38 ratling guns surrounding some poor bastard

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daily reminder age of skubmar exists

Has it got any better?

They pretty much redid the entire story with 2nd edition, most people that play ignore the story completely though, which is sad for Warhammer.

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>reminder that its doing really well

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>yfw you will never be as chad as this
Unfortunately the unit isn't that great.

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>New Greenskin settlement next to the Bretonnia area
Neat but I hope it doesn't get out of control, hopefully they start at war with the Barrow Legion to quell those fucks

It still baffles me how fucking terrible they are.

this thread-post is skaven now-now!

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It's really sad that they got tier creeped and that swordmasters are just a straight upgrade.

you can literally just use 18 necrofax collosus (with a gunnery wight and noctilius) and win every fight

>Bought Total Warhammer 2 + All DLC
>Like $66 leafbux on sale
>STILL can't play mortal empoires
why the fuck does it make you buy total warhammer 1 just to play mortal empires? fuck off niggers. refunded immediately.

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CA should have created some OC or the high elves should have lived without a tier two infantry unit, there was no need to make them a place holder unit

why the fuck did you buy second one instead of the first

because I never played the first and why the fuck would I buy it when there's a sequel with more content out?

That's like saying I should buy the first Left 4 Dead instead of Left 4 Dead 2.

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brb playing my bretonian campaign

>why the fuck does it make you buy warhammer 1 just to play warhammer 1
I kinda wish they brought the old intros and campaigns back as options and let you play only the Old World with new mechanics/factions but you're just straight up retarded user.

>Was really into Warhammer as a kid
>Saved up money for a while, finally on my birthday I bought $400 worth of figures and paints at my local gaming store
>The guy behind the counter doesn't even smile once, just kinda takes my money with a scowl
>When I ask him about showing up to playing the games the guy angrily tells me "don't bother. You're playing Empire, it's clear you just want to min-max."
>Thought he was joking, but the guy from that day on made it his personal mission to complain about me to the other Warhammer players
>Got disillusioned and quit after a while
>Gaming store shut down not long after
Thanks for reading my blog, this is why I don't play Warhammer nowadays. I don't even know if Empire WAS overpowered, I just liked the tanks

HE faction is a mess tbqh. They knew it was the selling point of the sequel so they made it beginner-friendly and made everything (except the birbs) too good for their price/availability.
>basic spearmen trade well with most basic inf
>basic archers make their cost back in the first 2 minutes and keep firing
>sea guard are a regular unit that shoots well while also being the hard counter to its counter
>Sisters of muhfuggin Avelorn punching like a t3 while being t2 and putting Welf archers to shame
>anything gets close just send in the swordsmen

Local gaming shops are either based, or they have enormous fucking morons working there. Let me tell you about my worst encounter.
>Buying a D&D book at my local place, some kinda book about vampires or something
>Guy behind the counter perks up and asks if I've ever heard of Vampire the Masquerade since I like vampires so much.
>I had, but I was never interested so I just say I'll take the D&D book
>The guy doesn't ring me up, and keeps going on and on about Vampire. He even takes out the player's handbook and starts flipping through the book
>After a few minutes of being polite I thank him but say I'm not interested, I just want the D&D book
>Guy frowns, and then REFUSES to sell me the D&D book. He tells me that I should think more carefully about my purchases, and says if I still want the book tomorrow he'll sell it to me
>Just went to Books-A-Million and bought it there
I don't know why gaming shop owners always think they're my friend