8.2 will save WoW
how will classicfags cope?
8.2 will save WoW
how will classicfags cope?
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by playing classic
>this
even if 8.2 does save bfa (which it won't) I'd still rather play classic
All of Blizzard's updates are decided first and foremost by player addiction and pricing algorithms, WoW cannot be saved as this ideology has wormed its way like a centipede into the game's core design philosophy.
Abandon AAA live service Western games.
Do Islands, WQs and the necklace still exist in 8.2?
Who KT masterrace?
yeah
i haven't subbed to retail since wrath
>I'd still rather play a 15 years old game that I have played a gajillion times and know everything about, from optimal plays to min-maxing etc, than trying something new or different
Mentally-ill classicfags never ever
8.2 is just another patch for the soccer moms to farm their world quest cheevomountpets. WoW is dead.
Who cares if it does, every live WoW player gets classic and vice versa. No point in flaming over it.
I'm grinding thru some of the older WoW expansions and having a ton of fun. Can't wait for the new raid to drop
>13 minutes
Pass, just gonna assume it's gonna be trash failure anyways because the people who made BFA are also making this patch. Unless there was a company purge, there is 0 chance of anything ever becoming better.
>Hey guys we are thinking about getting rid of the Azerite leveling system so players can just use the gear they earned without tacking on an additional grind
Wow Blizz thats the first good idea we have heard out of you all xpac
>Haha syke heres legendarys 2.0 : Azerite leveling edition now go grind those island expeditions
apologize
this. I wouldn't play retail WoW anyway.
Just goes to show how much shit they got wrong over the years. Retail WoW is barely recognisable to the core fan base and only appeals to zoomers who are more interested in being whales, buying pets and doing CHEEVOS than actually playing an MMORPG.
NuWoW by definition is not an MMO or and RPG. It's pretty sad but hey at least we're getting one this summer ;)
that dead albozerg expression
classicfags are chasing nostalgia
is not just a question of the game
you can't have the same comunity or the save electronic environment again
I'm at work someone give a quick rundown.
how the fuck is 8.2 supposed to save wow
I agree.
But do you think that classic will be the same as well? That will bring you the same feeling as before or have the same impact? Not a chance dude.
I'd prefer myself not playing ANY of the two that sadly chasing after lost memories because of nostalgia.
does 8.2 get rid of that neck azerite crap?
funny how this thread was made but not a single reply explains how the fuck is 8.2 saving wow
the heart of azeroth will become a new talent row with 3 slots for "glyphs", 1 major 2 minors, every glyph has a major(active) and minor(passive) effect,
the glyph in the major slot will have both atributes active, the glyphs in the minor will have passives active
Because they aren't saving it. They hide neck levels and azerite behind some dumb other in-game menu. You still have to do islands, so fuck BFA.
Didn't they already remove the old version of major and minor glyphs back when they first introduced that back in what... Wrath?
It expands on it. Now you not only level your neck for azerite traits, you also level it for random drop Titan Essence™ that, with an adequate Heart level, gives you a new CD using your artifact.
thanks user, i guess theres no reason to be hyped then..
>classicfags having to cope with the game finale being good
WHAT!? thats all they fucking want dipshit
>not playing a game with more classes, races, maps, dungeons, raids
Even back then minor glyphs were just cosmetic. Currently you can use every one of those "minor" glyphs unless they counteract each other, affecting the same ability.
I feel like the only people playing retail are multimillionaires who just waste their money on this and phonegames out of boredom and the truly sad and lonely who keep playing out of brokenness and a fear of betrayal from the game they once loved.
Metzen is gone Samwise is gone, that edgy EQ raider Afrasiabi is gone, all the old guard is gone and they've been replaced with smiling dyed hair diversity faces and a vile algorithmic core.
Classic, TBC and WOTLK servers are the only way to truly experience wow at this point.
imagine working for blizzard and having to plant propaganda
I can play original alterac Valley in classic
Can I do that in 8.2
>8.1.5 comes out
>free weekend
>finish all the content in it in about 5 hours of gameplay
It will be shit. I think classic will be overcrowded with autists. I miss classic as much as the next guy, but it's OBSOLETE. Best case scenario, a couple of weeks of nostalgia. Is all to it. Autists will probably play for a longer time. Expect tons of shitposts on Yea Forums with regards to it
Based Ion. Based Jeremy Feasel.
8.2 will be GLORIOUS! I can't wait to collect more pets and mounts. I can't wait to do more missions from my boat! I can't wait for HEROIC Warfronts!
8.2 might as well be its own expansion. And the art team? Holy shit, they really outdid themselves this time!
>this thread
op tries to feel good about not having a spine and wasting his life playing a game for retards thats 90% of its core audience has abandoned.
i mean you decided to stick it out,if we want to return itll be easy seeing as the game makes it that way. enjoy widdling your life away putting turtles back in water and retrieving bear asses
If I'm working and shilling for blizzard then what do you do smartass? Both games are being made by the same company.
classicfags = absolute retardation from all the monsters mixed with alcohol they have drunk
Classic will not be like you have it pictured in your mind. It was doomed from the start. The only reason for why Blizzard decided to redevelop Classic in the first place, was to drive out the remaining shitty privates that exist and thus monopolise every service related to WoW. You sad autistic boomer.
>he still has battle net even installed
kys you fucking faggots
>try your absolute hardest to draw a blood elf
>still give it a bulbous tumblr nose
What's 8.2
This honestly. My roommate's asking me if I wanna play this with him when it comes out and I have to ask, why? We played it for free for months on private servers. He says there will be less Russians and bots and that's cool I guess, but is that worth the subscription fee? It's still the same game. Why would I give Blizzard money when everything they put out is shit and they're resorting to spitting out a 15 year old product at us? I feel like the only people that are really looking forward to playing (and paying for) this are the ones who want to feel like they didn't get robbed by playing the new shitty versions.
you're going to have to install bnet to play classic, brainlet
really shot yourself in the foot there
You joke but the new zones look amazing.
I think he means to say that all WoWfags in the current time and age are retarded for still playing
>admits to working for blizzard
im not a classicfag i just love seeing the whiteknight cucks defend a dead ass game, shits hilarious
who said i would play that shit reddit spacing retard
>Another raid with 1 new boss, 7 color by numbers bosses and a mythic mode thats like having ddr on one screen while you play a shooter on the other.
>New arena map and a new battleground thats actually an old battleground but they brought it back so its new
>Mounts!
>Pets!
>Porn mod support!
>Mount equipment!
>More Azerite Leveling!
>Over 2 and a half hours of quests!
>Flying!
It's plain out mockery. Blizzard aims to cash on nostalgia, but even they know that it won't be the same. There other non-profit reasons for why they do it. Classic will not cost much for Blizzard to support anyway. It's 15 years old already made game.
About halfway into the $60 expansion they scrap the system they were told was awful in the beta, and replace it with what you had in Legion except 10 times more shallow and simplistic. You have to be mentally retarded to still be playing this game.
>how will classicfags cope
Why would they need to "cope"? They have a totally separate game they can play to fulfill their needs
>admits to working for blizzard
Where did I admit that? I said "if" I shilled for retail then you would also shill for classic. They are both from Blizzard you mongrel.
Who else blood DK master race here?
>Still water walk
>Self-heal
>Chad role in groups
>Heal sluts stick to you like a spray tan
>damage controll
UH OH
>by playing classic
for about 1 week before you realize that the only reason you put up with the bullshit that is vanilla wow was because there was nothing else at the time.
this
Who gives a literal fuck what the zones look like when the core game design is a complete mess right now?
Stuck in the 15 years old past hoping to catch some glimpse of the old magic for someone who has played the game many many times and calling that winning is very sad desu.
nonanswer
virgin BDK has to heal back up
chad prot warrior presses shield block and takes no damage while out-DPSing the rest of the group combined
>Heal sluts stick to you like a spray tan
what?
aren't blood DKs basically healsluts themselves?
Everyone should care. It never won't matter.
what do you enjoy about current wow to keep playing?
Post classes you dislike playing or can't stand everytime you try them.
>Resto Druid
I can't keep shit alive but continue as FotM.
>Pallys
Wish they were DK's and slow AF
>Spriest
LOL, wanna be warlocks
>Ele/Ench Shaman
Just kill it off.
Nothing, I've been playing on a WOTLK private server for a couple of months now.
>Fix
>Azerite trinkets barely make up for gap left by artifacts
>We starved you for content for so long because we are releasing this whole raid tier in three weeks
>look at all the extra busy work to customize your maybe garrison 3.0 this time with 10000% more gnomes.
At best they are making up for bfa disaster so fare it is far from saved.
It's a video game not a slideshow. Fuck off.
What
By god that is the ugliest High Elf I have ever seen.
>i-it doesn't matter what games look like
I agree with you that graphics/artstyle isn't everything when it comes to judging a game.
But saying it doesn't matter is just as retarded as saying graphics is all that matters.
What was the gap left by artifacts? 20 passives you never have to think about? Because they still have those.
The very people who saw nothing wrong with launching BFA the way it was are trying to fix an issue they don't understand. All they see are sub numbers dropping and people upset but they cannot understand why. They are absolutely lost and do not know what it is they're fixing because in their minds the best was already made and given to the playerbase.
How the fuck are these people going to save anything?
What a shit opinion you have, playing old games is fine faggot.
Artifact abilities were pretty central to most classes rotation. When blizzard took them out they didnt replace them with everything and it made half the classes feel really hollow
No, for the most part they were just another cooldown. Your opener isn't your rotation. The ones with utility were changed to talents.
You typed all this without actually reading a single bit of info about the patch, so no, I'm not going to spoonfeed you, the info is easy to find.
Wow great, I'm down 1 talent now. This is so much better than before when I had both the gear CD and a talent point.
Most classes lost a major skill that blizz made central to their kit at end game in legion.
I mained druid so
>Rage of the sleeper and mark of ursoc- Both major parts of tanking which is why when they where removed druids dropped to barely usable in mythic plus on launch
>Ashemaine frenzy- another bleed, which means you had another whole proc a second of all your bleed talents
>Moon faze- still there but now it is a talent taking away power if you want to keep it- added another faster energy generator that also rapped to aoe between main rotation cooldowns
>G'haar- literally double your healing over time in clutch which is one of druids biggest weaknesses.
Not to mention they put some of the artifact abilities in the talent tree, except heavily nerfed.
I don't get it, making a player feel less powerfull than in a previous expansion is just horrible game design.
Something that can also be seen with the level and gear scaling, leveling up literally just makes it harder to kill enemies instead of the opposite.
Islands still exist
I'm still pruned compared to Legion
Slowly flinging rocks at seagulls and crabs are still around
Nothing is fixed, BFA is still broken.
So why is Baine all chained up?
>manlets
>masterrace
It would depend on the class. Some are better, some unchanged, some worse. Let's not pretend artifacts were that good.
>heroic warfronts
who cares
>new islands
who cares
>war campaign
done in less than an hour and it's deviant art levels of storytelling anyway
>flying
ok
>stratholme pet dungeon
who cares
>mount equipment
who cares
>heart of azeroth revamp
basically glyphs walled behind another AP grind
>new raid and dungeon
ok
>new zones, but with ___ gimmick you'll be done with in 2 weeks
ok
This is what was supposed to "save" BFA? I don't know what is more laughable, this nothingburger of a patch or the shills and influencers who are claiming it's good.
>Assasination rogue
By far the worst shit I've ever tried.
and i'm too autistic to respec
He delivered Derek Proudmoore to Jaina and undermined /ourqueen/. Youtube the cut scene.
You say that every patch.
I thought Derek Proudmoore was dead.
Because sylvanas is into some kinky furry shit
You are correct. I have a rogue that was created in 2006. For the life of me, every expansion I cannot get that fucker leveled. I'm so easily killed by mobs or energy starved. Not even tellmewhen can help with any spec I try.
He was, we reclaimed his body and /ourqueen/ brought him back for the lolz to mess with the Alliance dogs.
this
Sounds cringe.
>islands are still shit
>warfronts are still shit
>world quests are shit
>have to do all these three to level up necklace and it's shit
>titanforging still exists
>mythic raiding is cool..
>..but all your gear will be worthless come next patch because ridiculous four different difficulties and no linear raid progression forces Blizzard to power creep the shit out of new items
No thanks. I'll be playing classic though!
>daily reminder that sub rogue will never ever go back to how it was in legion 7.2
I agree with all your other points, but couldn't you skip entire raid tiers in vanilla due to power creep?
Big deal, sub rogue peeked in Cata.
>ywn maintain 3 dots, 3 buffs AND have to plan/pool for Shadow Dances again
Maybe you can skip MC once 1.11 itemization is out, before that I guess you can go into BWL without clearing MC with gear from ZG and AQ20 once they are out. But I am not sure about that.
No, vanilla raids were more intermixed. They were all tiered, but each raid still had items that were unique and powerful regardless of where it came from. Some people hated it, some liked it.
You can at most go into BWL in mostly ZG gear (with the exception of resistance pieces) because the itemization is so much better.
Are the animations on private servers how they were during classic? Watching videos of people playing on classic private servers and the animations are miles ahead of retail wow. It's baffling.
Kind of. There wasnt so much ilvl as there were pre-X BiS items. DM released and gave better gear than MC at a lower ilvl because your healer could get trinkets that gave Mp5 and cloth gear with just int and spirit as opposed to MC gear that, while 15-20 ilvls higher, spent that ilvl budget on adding agi/str/ap to gear you were wearing just for the int and +hp. Same with ZG
How do all these people dumping on classic explain every time a decent(ish) vanilla private came out that it got huge amounts of players? Are we really gonna be lazy and wave them all off as poorfags, chinks and russians?
Yes classic will have much less pve longevity, but old wow did not have nearly as much of a razor focus on instanced content like modern does. World PvP can and will keep people going for years, I know it did back when I played.
You can download patches to get the animations/models from WoD to work in older expansion, that might be what you've seen.
The animations in classic weren't bad, but the newer animations are definitely better.
oh, by introducing a system that they'll just replace with another system when the next xpac hits?
Blizzard is now a company of no soul where the marketing department make the game decisions
Vanilla was pretty messy with "power" creepy because you had other factors.
I remember having to farm gear from maraudon because you need resistance gear for Naxx.
Still a neck
Still leveling it
Better believe the timegating is still present
Classes still play like shit
The new glyphs give a generic ability and aren't class based
Islands are still shit
Warfronts are still shit.
8.2 is saving NOTHING.
Greenscreen presentation by Todd mc corporate speak.
He tells you how to feel about the new patch.
It's cool
Exciting
Amazing
Rich
Feature rich
I fucking hate presentations like this, especially with the track record of lies from Blizz over the past 2 years.
Wait 8.2 is not out yet? The game has been out for 8 MONTHS and only gotten 1 big patch so far?
Keep in mind that this expansion is/was just as expensive as a new AAA game, the game has a sub fee, a cash shop, level bossts and you can buy gold for real money. This is the sub-based MMO that makes the most money of all, so where the fuck do all the money go? Why are you paying for a sub when the game get less updates than a indie game with 1000 players?
1 big patch? Where?
It got a raid, and that was it.
I just realized they didn't do a Thursday twitch stream where they ignore all questions about the game to talk about transmog and pet battles to hype up their next island grinding patch.
is this guy as much of a cunt as he looks like he is? he just has one of those ultra-smug faces and/or constant expressions.
>1 big patch
There was one meh patch for a raid and one patch that added in things that were promised on launch.
he's a lawyer who speaks like a lawyer and thinks like a lawyer when addressing anything about the game.
>newer = better
It is.
>8.2 will save WoW
Like 8.1?
Like BfA?
Like Legion?
Like WoD?
Like MoP?
That's even worse, how are people ok with this?
>how are people ok with this?
Most people aren't, the few that don't really hate it still admit it isn't good but there is plenty of busy work to keep them playing.
The only people still playing are being paid to do so or are so casual that they play an hour a week.
>casual
Bingo. I can log in and get more done with less amount of time.
*whittling
>Porn mod support!
I wish.
>aren't blood DKs basically healsluts themselves?
No since they heal only themselves and only if they're smacking the enemy in the face with their weapon.
Pretty chad if you ask me.
You know who else was stuck reliving the past? Al Bundy. 4 touch downs in one game baby!
Based and bundypilled
We always have these classic vs retail shit throwing contest. Is anyone else just happy to see that both can exist and even play both?
>Old friends come back.
>New friends are made.
>Compare/contrast the best parts of both
>New ideas and communities emerge.
Can't wait for the boomers to come home.
WoW is and will be shit until they remove the random titanforged upgrades.
>Unless there was a company purge
there was
>bringing major glyphs back in a rustier less-interesting fashion that will be dropped at the end of the xpac
>accompanied by Firelands but with water
wow, great stuff! I wonder if it will fix the obnoxious structure of the game where dungeons are more significant than raids and world quests are more significant to PVP progression than fucking PVP?
a company purge of CS members, a lot of them people who tried to comment on forums, as compared to someone like lore who doesn't interact with the community at all
We found a more profitable target audience.
Love, Ion
because being intrigued by the world (i.e. how cool the zones are) is a very important part of mmo's
wow initially succeeded on this alone
If by nostalgia you mean a real mmorpg and a good game then you are right
Watching mult-box streamers getting upset on twitch is so comfy. I like it when something goes wrong and they panic or get so mad they log off.
Get new material kid, nostalrius shits all over everything you just said
>and a good game
LMFAOOOOOOO
>implying any of those make it better
cope
I will say nothing more. I have personally said enough, I'm not an autist myself.
But I WILL untap into whatever inner autism I have especially for you when the after-summer seething and complaining threads appear. When the data-posting threads reveal the collective fluke that all of you autists hyped and spammed about for months, shitting on the whole board. Then I will grow full autistic for just the chance to shitpost you to death everyday and have the best lulz in a while.
condolences on your extensive mount, toy and transmog collections that are gathering dust
SEETHING
just remember that all lawyers are kikes even if they don't have the sheeny dna
>people who want to play the game, play classic
>people who want to autistically fill bars and checkmarks, play retail
>sub is shared inflating MAU for both games even though it's 100% guaranteed people will either play one or the other
blizzard know EXACTLY what they're doing
Yeah okay buddy, can’t wait to see you seethe this summer :)
I'm 100% going to be playing classic but it's not a good game
not with 2 to 3 pieces of loot per boss divided among 40 people
It's always the same shit, they introduce problems just so they can "fix it" as the major highlight of a future patch, all the while stripping away more features and making the game more braindead.
Will WoW kill WoW?
Activision Blizzard was the WoW killer all along
>classicfags will finance retail development
Wait, that's official art? I was sure that it was a fanart from a porn artist. In fact I can almost even recognize the style.
at least there's only one more major patch before a non-filler expansion
So they will finance the equivalent of a developer shitting directly down the throat of brainless customers?
what do you enjoy about current retail wow?you obviousely hate classicfags so what is it that you play for?
raids and m+