> Nier > Drakengard > Drakengard 2 >> Nier Automata >>> Drakengard 3
Nier > Drakengard > Drakengard 2 >> Nier Automata >>> Drakengard 3
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Redpill me on Drakengard. I remember playing the first game on the PS2 as a kid but only remember that i had 0 idea what the fuck was going on storywise.
>unironically liking Drakengard 2
Yeah, that's going to get a ten (10) Yike(s) from me.
Drakengard 2 is just straight fucking trash and it's boring. The characters suck and the story is fucking garbage. Coming from the masterpiece Drakengard makes it even worse.
> literal shit > Nier > Drakengard > Drakengard 2 >> Nier Automata >>> Drakengard 3
Just wanted to put things in perspective for you, OP.
Drakengard 3 is the best in the series, though.
Except Automata is the only one with good gameplay and has the best soundtrack so it wins by default.
This but in reverse
Pic related
Awful
>get 10 min into D3, can't play due to garbage fps
>find out both NieR and D3 are emulatable now
Verdelet did nothing wrong
basically the world is shit. Knights and Dragons are at war with the red eyes. The series goes from dark to darker. The acting is terrible, the music is backwards but fits a backward Europe.
the game mechanics are bad but it's an experience that is worth it.
Automata is the only one with good gameplay. Drakengard 2 is garbage.
Drakengard 3 is underappreciated.
was he the pedophile or was that other guy who had a pact with the fairy?
>Automata, good gameplay
I mean sure compared to the other games. But on its own it's repetitive basic garbage. And without Taro would be in the bargain bin of rejected B-list action games.
Drop DoD2 to the end and I'll agree.
It's a mess of a masterpiece that enjoys making you suffer through it until you start to give in and enjoy the monotonous and repetitive gameplay, destructive OST and insane plot.
It's easily the worst but I still recommend it to people because I think it should be experienced.
edgy shit
that is it
I am baffled by how anyone can like any of the dod games
> Sekiro > Nier > Drakengard > Drakengard 2 >> Nier Automata >>> Drakengard 3
Neither. The guy who had a pact with a fucking PETRIFIED DRAGON. Which does literally nothing because it's just a fucking rock.
He also got you to take time out of stopping the end of the world to commit multiple acts of genocide while gleefully masturbating
>Souls shit
no right to talk about gameplay
>2 is better than any of the other titles
>2 is even worth mentioning
this is a troll thread or you have awful taste
oh yeah, what a fun guy.
Story
Automata = DoD1 > Nier > DoD3
Gameplay
Automata > Nier > DoD1 > DoD3
Characters
DoD1 = Nier = DoD3 = Automata
Music
DoD1 > Automata = DoD3 > Nier
Overall
Automata > DoD1 > DoD3 = Nier
I love DoD1's aerial combat, ground combat isn't as bad as must people say too
I wish DoD3's story wasn't so fragmented, I know Taro likes to expand on his stories through side materials but DoD3 is the game that suffered the most from it which is a shame, the overpriced DLCs didn't help. Automata is his best executed and does a better job at fusing both story and gameplay plus the routes are much more unique than Nier's
I love all of his characters I can't just rank them
The reason the Nier OST is that low is because I feel Automata's is just an improved version of it and DoD1/3's are much more unique, they're all great though
2 sucks but all the Caim/Angy scenes are sugoi
I only bought automata because 2b's sweaty ass. Dont give a fuck about those other ancient games.
Why? 3 has the best gameplay, best characters and best levels. I'd say the music is best too.
I wish Sekiro was by Taro. Then I would buy it.
I just fucking love how DoD connects to Nier. its nuts but man! I wish you could play a game as those magical kids that got turned into Grimoires.
3 became great once you got through the first playthrough, purely because of being one of what must be a tiny number of games to implement a diegetic NG+ (& in Taro fashion, completely fucked up in a way that still sticks with me now). Haven't played Automata yet though & I presume it probably does a similar thing but better, like it does with everything else
Filtered by the Asylum Demon?
listing drakengard 2 anything but dead last has to be bait or someone just picking numbered games and pretending they played them
DoD2 was great but you put it way too high on your list let me correct that for you:
DoD1 > N:A => Nier > DoD2 => DoD3
every single aspect of the game, from game design to music to the retarded plot was crafted specifically to drive you up the wall. the game delivers a macabre 100 hour joke of a game. it's essentially a video game adaptation of duchamp's fountain.
Almost perfect.
Nier>>>>Drakengard>Nier Automata>Drakengard 3>>>>>drakengard 2
I wamt to tenderly impregnate Devola.
did they have verginers? cuz I would too
I loved all of them besides drakengard 2.
But for me Nier gestalt/replicant is above just because I'm such a sucker for melancholia/depressing themes and that game just NAILED it.
I've literally never played any other game that just expressed and represented these concepts so well. The whole thing felt like just one big allegory for bleak suffering and desperate attempts to cling on things that are dead or already gone.
It hit me in the most personal way out of any other Taro game for sure.
Not one thing is wrong in this post. Congrats dude.
>I'm such a sucker for melancholia/depressing themes and that game just NAILED it.
Did you play Drakengard 1? The priest literally encapsulates this feeling as well. Especially near the end of the game.
Drakengard is unironically one of the worst games that I've ever played. You're baiting if you think that its better than Automata or 3, which is a bad game but better than the original Drakengard.
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Drakengard is a plebfilter and you have just outed yourself
is it a bird is it a plane?
I tire of the people who shit on Automata for simply not being what the other games are.
Do people shit on Twin Peaks fans for not watching Mulholland Drive?
Accessibility =/= Reduction in scope.
It just seems like some weird form of elitism.
Plebs who value good gameplay over all else? Yeah I guess so. Sorry that I like video games to actually fucking play them.
Second guy you replied to. Can you tell me how specifically my post was wrong and how posting a load of tracks from the first game proves it?
I mean you could at least post the best one:
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WHERE IS MY NIER REMASTER
>it's now contrarian to think Automata was a great and truly quality sequel that stayed true to the series
this twisted board needs to be reset
You're thinking of Leonard.
I played it even before Nier was a thing and thought it was pretentious anime trash. Rule of Rose sucked too.
I just don't get how he did it. DoD1 is miles ahead of anything else after it, everything from the soundtrack to the voiceacting just gives a feeling of building madness. It's such a shit game but nothing comes close to matching it.
Some people thin Caim survived, but they doesnt make sense. The pact was still on.
I want to play Drakengard now. (Nier and N. Automata are the only Taro's game I played and I love them)
Do they run well on PS2 emulator?
Automata had some of the best gameplay in the franchise, retarded zerofag.
Why would you want to match trash?
The voice acting you have to be joking. The voice acting was terrible. It was at the beginning of some people's careers and they were voicing a video game they didn't know what they were doing.
Its like you need to have the most outrageous opinion. Either something is the best ever or the worst shit ever.
The reality is that both Nier games were good in their own way.
Where do you think Yoko Taro could go in the future? More Xenos, another branch, or back to Drakenguard?
Yoko Taro never makes the same game twice
it's the worst game ever but the story is insane so you keep wanting to see more even if it costs your sanity
He should do a collab with Gen Urobuchi and make the edgiest trashfire in gaming history
Dude, the Drakengard games don't play well on an actual PS2.
Caim is the original red eye
hahaha
You know what I mean, user.
I'm playing Drakengard 3 right now and I'm wondering how on Earth this series got up to 3 when the combat is this primitive. Like up to this point this is the best of the 3 games in combat prowess and I'm stunned, were the 1st and 2nd games even worse than Dynasty Warriors?
If you're just coming from the Nier games (rather than say Drakengard 3) then unless you're an actual masochist I would highly recommend NOT playing Drakengard 1. The vast majority of the gameplay is absolutely awful and there is a LOT of grinding.
There are some pretty good summaries out there that get the feel of the insanity across decently enough. lparchive.org
But I suppose there's no harm in downloading it & giving it a whirl to see if you can handle the monotony
Does anyone else think that the whole timeline is cyclical, and we'll eventually have sometime to do with that city that appears at the beginning of drakengard lore that introduces magic to the world?
Also does anyone else think it's rad that the evil flower eventually indirectly succeeds in its goal of wiping out all of humanity, albeit it in another world (ours)?
I think the next nier should take place in the kingdom of night.
Okay I just had a look at that link I posted & had forgotten about the cringeworthy running commentary throughout. Ignore the taste of user from 7 years ago
something has to happen with the citadel city. Right now he released this add about DoD4 which was a plan to make a real game DoD5 that talks about the issue of what happened to DoD 4.
he cant be unless his corpse was taken over.
I think the next nier should ditch the waifufaggotry a bit and stop making it about robots all the time jesus christ
well yeah, we still dont know who accord is working for.
Anyone here played SINoALICE? Should I be excited for the English launch? I already play FGO every day, I'm not really interested in another timesink mobage but since it's written by Taro it at least has my interest.
OK, I will download it. Grinding does not bother me, at all.
I mean, I saw few videos, I know that combat is shit, but that post (I quoted) really caught my attention. I just want to see how fucked up the game is.
I wouldn't listen to the people who say the gameplay is shit. Try it for yourself. I only played it for the first time last year and the actual gameplay was fun enough for me. Dragon combat sections were actually good too, despite me usually hating that kind of shit.
The rare times when you actually get to use the dragon during ground missions are pretty good. Ground combat with Caim was only so bad because of just how much of it you had to do
>The last song of Automata, Weight of the World, had a chorus with the entire game's development staff at PlatinumGames and Square Enix singing along to encourage the player. Why did you decide on that for the final song of the game?
>Okabe: I didn't remember this, I actually forgot about it for a while, but Yoko-san actually came to me telling me that he wanted a chorus at the end of the game pretty early on in the development process. I apparently made disgruntled face at him and did not remember why I even made that face or even that I made that face.
I had slowdown in pcsx2 and no issues on OPL
I'll take Popola, then.
I had some slowdowns on opl but there wasnt sound stretching. also the interlacing working properly on tv screen is a plus.
>Good thread about to die
>Ebin games reee threads hit bump limit
It's just not fair.
>“NieR: Automata which released in 2017 became a hit and I got plenty of work because of its aftermath, but that won’t last forever. Therefore, I believe my downfall will start around 2019, and since it would be lonely to die alone, I’m going to try taking down as many people with me.”
Play FFXIV
I don't know why my connection is slow today, maybe the site (where I'm downloading from) is fucked up, but it's finally over... Oh boy, here we go.
Wat. Explain.
What? Drakengard looks like dogshit on the PS2 but it runs just fine.
For breeding.
Where can i find all the side material translated?
Project Ace-Yoko Taro collaboration when?
> Nier > Nier Automata > Drakengard > Drakengard 3 > Drakengard
Just coming through with the correct opinion.
>Drakengard > Drakengard 3 > Drakengard
You fucked up, bro.
It's a loop
I would say clemps did a good job going over everything.
I got on the train at Nier: automata, watched all of clemps' videos on the prior games before N:A came out, took the day off work for release, and it was amazing.
>plebfilter
>cant post YT links correctly
Automata is literally the exact same fucking story
He had a GDC conference and explained his writing methods, youre actually wrong faggot. His games literally all have the same plot
whoa so this is the power of automata secondaries...
Bazowy i redpilowy.
I don't speak Polish. :/
Me neither :^D
>the music is terrible
no it isn't
You think I am wrong about this?
Do explain.
>Drakengard is a plebfilter and you have just outed yourself
You can't deny that the gameplay for Drakengard is kind of garbage. But it isn't the worst ever.
Why the fuck would Drakengard 2 even be in this list, let alone above anything?
But the soldiers he fought throughout the game were already under the influence of the Red Eye Disease
Why the fuck would you complain when someone says they like Drakengard 2?
Someone linked this to me. Not sure if it has it all, but it might help.
theark.wiki
You're not a real man before you've beaten Drakengard 1 with ending E.
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I think everybody's brain is still broken from the beautiful clusterfuck that is the final two routes of Drakengard. Ending A gave them feels, Ending B probably scared the shit out of people, and I don't know how to best describe ending C.
Why did you play every single game if you liked none?
Is Ending E = a prelude to Nier?
Drakengard: Best endings, Most fucked up/best tone, best weapon variety even though the gameplay mechanics don't take advantage of it at all, best MC, best waifu(Angelus), best music
Drakengard 2:
Nier: Best world building, best music, best story, best side characters
Drakengard 3: Best character interactions, best sense of humor, best final boss
Nier: Automata: Best gameplay, Best ass, best side quests, also best music, also best story
Yes
>Drakengard 2 above anything
It's the worst playable game of all time.
>best waifu(Angelus)
I can't argue against that. I'd honestly argue that Drakengard 2 has arguably the best way for Caim's life to end.
Really bad Dynasty Warriors with a horrendous draw distance. Dragon missions and monotonously killing thousands on the dragon on the ground are the highlight of the gameplay.
Yeah, if you're too gay to play them you should have at least watched the games themselves, rather than some faggot talking about them.
I can go along with that.
Not him, but watching the Japanese voices really does make me realize how much I like Angelus' English voice.
Caim and his dragon waifu arguably have the better boss fights in the game. Plus, if you count this as a positive, Legna was a treat in the game and honestly wasn't too bad as the final boss.
It's the true video game experience of a descent into madness. A lot of it has to do with the music, which is perfect in its role but nuts because it's all tension and no release. I was just watching some cutscenes a few hours ago after not playing it in years and it's just as intense and emotionally draining to watch some of the stuff from later in the game as it is to play it. By the time I got ending B I wanted to stab myself in the head because it felt like the game had simply ruined me through and through. Above all, it's an experience like no other.
>main character wants to save someone close
>murders everyone in order to save them
>they die anyway
Just because we've all got a skeleton doesn't mean we're all the same.
You know they won't ditch the waifufaggotry.
>and I don't know how to best describe ending C.
Frustration. It's the only boss fight you do on the ground and it's a real bitch to beat. Then you realise it's just Ending B again.
Frustration and sheer confusion. Why the fuck do we have to fight Angelus as the final boss all of a sudden? Why? Why?? WHY???
I would agree with you except it should have ended with him murdering Nowe at the same time.
sorry I'm the only primary , you are all secondaries. I was sucking Taros cock before you were even born kiddos.
What if I told you Taro has sucked my cock?
When will Taro give us a loli protagonist? We already had a old man and a young (robot) boy.
Drakengard is absolute ludic kino
Pretty hard considering Taro's probably a shotafag.
Doesn't he hate imoutos with a burning white hot rage?
based Taro
>Automata above Nier in terms of story
No
He said that during Drakengard development. Then again, Yonah was a thing.
the old man was for westerners japs got the ussual teenager
What does Taro really look like behind the mask?
Please Westernize my JRPG!
True, I guess he could just flip and do a red girl space opera bullet hell.
Plus, Furiae was pretty damn unlikable. And to some people, her having incestuous feelings for Caim tilted them over.
>DoD3 at the bottom
t. didn't hit the last two notes
Who the fuck thought of the final note right when the ending was beginning? I can imagine how many people were so pissed off at that.
t. only watched a video and doesn't realize it's 3 notes
2 post fade, 1 after the cutscene starts playing
>a game with 90% of its story being frontloaded into the last 15% of the game being good
Nier is all about the journey, but I honestly struggle to understand why people like the story so much. If it wasn't for the banter and main party I would not be able to sit through it.
gross
Alright all you translating nerds out there, it's time to settle this once and for all. Here we have a video with all the audio in Japanese, so now we can determine how much (if any) of Drakengard was really censored.
1:36:16 is for Leonard's scene.
2:45:35 is for Furiae's scene.
Oh cool, my video can be of some use.
Japfags where you at?
Sounds like fun. I can only imagine the plot in that.
The worst part is that there was some translating thread last night and all the weebs and /djt/fags came out of the woodwork but I couldn't find anything to post. It seems your video doesn't have enough views to show up on the radar yet.
I saw a thread in the past saying JP 2B was tonally different from ENG 2B. That true?
I've almost beat my first playthrough of Drakengard 2.
You apparently have to beat the game three times on increasingly harder difficultulties to unlocked all endings.
I think I will just youtube the last chapters you have to unlocked on second/third playthrough, so I can finally get to Nier and Drakengard 3.
How bout play them from a completed save?
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I heard it is extremely difficult. But it's OST is a banger
>gamefaqs.gamespot.com
I actually saw that, they're not compatible with PCSX2.
I love it when people make the argument that the official English translation (in any story or any any medium, not just Drakengard) ruins the story so they post the original language subbed with the official English translation. Do you not realize that you aren't fixing anything for anyone?
That sure would be a stupid argument to make.
You just need this csclub.uwaterloo.ca:11068
Nier Automata got popular. So, it's ok to hate it now.
More like Nier Automata got popular so it's not okay to like it now.
All that changes is the final scene plus a few minor cutscenes are extended. So early on you learn of the first time Eris got her period, among other things. But if you're in chapter 8 as that screenshot says then you've still got a third of the game to go.
Ending B is exactly the same up until the Seed, where Manah is consumed by its power and turns into a rehash of Drakengard 1 Ending A boss Manah. You kill her and Nowe wages war on the Watchers with Eris and an army of dragons.
Ending C is the same as B except this time Manah controls the Seed's power so you instead fight Legna in the exact same fight as in Ending A. The world is at peace, Eris turns into a spinster or something and Nowe and Manah run off to explore the world together and live happily ever after.
I don't get why that's the case.
Damn, well if you see another thread like that repost it, I'll probably miss it.