Fantasy game

Moo?

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I mained Naginata for a while, shit was cash.

>EKU

Nigga that's a fucking oar

The most effective weapon in history was probably smallpox, in that it was used by European colonisers to remove the trouble-making natives. The second most effective weapon is probably the Black Death, spread by the Eternal Mongol in their quest to destroy absolutely everything worth having. The third most effective weapon is probably something like the Russian winter, or the Chinese tactic of flooding their own lands (it didn't actually kill any Japanese invaders, but it DID kill millions of their own Chinks, and isn't that really a kind of victory?).

As far as conventional weapons go, I'd say the bow and arrow was the most effective weapon, followed by the pike. But polearms are the most effective at killing people one-on-one, I'll give you that.

I do
my fav fav weapon

>sword is better
>ignores that a lot these weapons are designed to deal with shields and swords
Swordfags are the worst.

>Just use a shield kek
Congratulations. Now one of your arms is burdened for no reason (plate protects just as well as a shield) and you can't use a polearm. You can't really defend any better against the other guy, who IS using a polearm, and you can't attack him back (he's also wearing plate, which can only be pierced with polearms or with tiny weapons like hammers or maces, but you can't get in close enough).

Polearms are also very, very, very fast. You use two hands to use them, bruh.

Look, let's be real here. We all know what the best weapon is.

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>the most effective weapon in history
everybody laugh at the melee reach only fag.

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>Use Sword
>Useless against an armored opponent

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The germ theory didn't even exist at that time
Better luck next time Schlomo

>weapon that literally only existed to protect superior gunpowder weapons
>most effective anything

lmao @ ur lyfe

This is retarded on a number of levels, but I am autistic so I will tell you how:

Firstly, we're not just talking about the medieval period. We're also talking about after the 1850s. Your argument falls apart at the seams.

Secondly, although they may not have been aware of germs, they most certainly were aware of disease. They also had a rough idea of where disease came from. Thus, when the Mongols flung the bodies of those who'd died of the plague into an enemy encampment, they knew very well what they were doing. The British, too, were well aware that they would bring diseases to the native Australian population which they could not defend against; they simply saw it as a sign that Abbos were unevolved and unable to survive in the modern world, and besides, they kept stealing sheep. Your argument is destroyed utterly, the slate wiped clean, all trace of your tiny brain removed, and you might as well never have typed at all.

You're welcome.

>and besides, they kept stealing sheep
what does that have to do with anything? stealing the british sheep? Were they welsh and decided the abbos needed exterminating for taking their precious sheep?

In a historical setting where everyone is a mundane, average human and equipment cost/weight are as important as lives? Sure.
If it’s any sort of fiction though that goes out the window. Even in a low/no fantasy setting spears suck in extended fights. They’re also hardly worth carrying at all if your enemies are heavily armored brick shithouses or archers/peasants in nothing but rags or cloth brigandine. Against armor you want blunt force or at least a weapon that won’t break, for the latter anything works but spears are still clumsy and less effective than cutting weapons.

That chart is wrong, when it should have been long with based Sarissa.

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>Were they welsh and decided the abbos needed exterminating for taking their precious sheep?
Unironically yes.

You have to understand just how desperate things were on the Australian frontier. Your average frontiersman is from the absolute dregs of society. They're either a literal convict or someone who thought the middle of Australia sounded better than their situation in England. They have a shitty little hut. They have no women. They only occasionally meet other men. They have a few sheep and they grow what vegetables they can. The government doesn't give a shit for them. One bad season is gonna fucking destroy them. And now some fucking blackies have come and taken a sheep, YOUR sheep, which you need. Never mind that your little farm drove the kangaroos out and now those blackies are desperate too; you don't know any of that shit, you just know they stole your God damn Sheila.

So the next time you see an Abbo, you shoot them. And the next time they see you, they spear you. And so your mates all get together at night and find the Abbo tribe and take them to an isolated hill and they hang the lot.

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>using magic ever
incel detected

well, what can I say, you got me

tl;dr faggot

Imagine running late for the weapon distribution and you end up with an Uchiwa

me need sheep to survive
abbo take sheep (to survive)
i now have no future, i am angery

DAUBENY

> fantasy game
> history
Exactly.

Do any of you know some European blacksmiths that sell halberds?
Most of them only sell swords or armour.

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Unconventional weapons go

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>weaponized soccer ball
>sandals
>unprotected shins and toes
>"lemme just armor up my left arm"

>special equip cards are earrings despite never wearing any
>supposedly wields a gun
>all his cards are brass instruments
>his finisher attacks are musical references one of which involves pistol whipping his target 7-8 times repeatedly
>"This will cleanse the evil out of you!"
Lyude was an odd amalgamation of ideas, but his meekness in cutscenes compared to his brutality in battle is such a good juxtaposition.

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>use armorslayer
>fucking wreck armored foes

Outward really does polearms justice. You can stand 3-4 feet back and poke nerds while they're swinging their maces and swords at you. You can also outrange them with your own halberd swings and stunlock enemies before they can even touch you.

most of the stuff in this image are just fantasy / folk weapons that never got used

shuriken was a cinema invention for instance
almost everything about ninjas are just for cinema too

main weapon of samurai was the spear/bow and the sword was only popularized during peacetime as a self defense weapon similar to the handgun of today

if I remember he only used light and dark element, and all of his dark element specials were him beating the shit out of someone in melee while light was ranged attacks

move away peasants

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Glaives are the best.

>Lassos and hooks you

>*Glances off armour*

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He really did have some of the best combo finishers in the game. I think there's one where he throws a mine at the enemy in shoots it in mid air or something. It's been a few years so I could be completely wrong. I still remember one his later one Diminuendo though, where he fires himself into the air then somehow propels himself into the enemy.

It's a fucking polearm you nonce

>fantasy game
>nobody brings any artillery the most effective weapon of all time

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>yeah bro just shoot this slime with that siege cannon you always bring with you

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That does jack against someone in plate armour

You got a source on that? I admit I know fucking nothing about most Chink arms, but glaives and bills in general could do something against plate. Not as well as halberds and pollaxes, but not "bounces off u" tier.

Guess the strongest weapon of all is the plate armor huh? Nothing can get past it after all.

Based wizardbro

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I mean, kinda, yeah. If I had to pick between a weapon + maille vs. no weapon + plate, I'd go with the plate any day.

The only weapons which could pierce plate were those made specifically to pierce plate. We're talking maces, warhammers, and polearms (which have a fucktonne of leverage). People forget that even guns couldn't pierce plate.

Nothing except polearms and hammers/maces.
Plate protects against slashing, which is what a sword does, but not against smashing or piercing.

It protects against piercing too, unless it's like the bec-de-corbin and has a bunch of force behind it.

Based retard

The most effective weapon was the black plague since it created generations of highly disease resistant white people who carried disease to remote corners of the world unintentionally wiping out entire civilizations.

REWORK REVEAL ON THE 25TH

YOU READY NIGGAS?

t. buttmad mongol
don't you have some mares who need milking, degenerate?
smallpox did that brah.

>bec-de-corbin
Isn't that that one polearm that's basically a big fat middle finger to all other weapon, armor and mounts?

I think saying sword can only slash is a very naive thinking. Armors have gaps and many type of swords can stab through gaps, moreover if finding gaps is too hard, the pommel and the guard can be used to punch and bash as hard as a hammer.

>bec-de-corbin
those weapons were great in diablo 2

>effective
>crossbow

The only reason the crossbow was relevant was because a peasant could learn how to use one in just a week or so, like a kalachnikov today

>Make a bunch of weapons
>Only spears, tanto and makibishi were actually useful
Where's the yumi?

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made me laugh 2bh

In the same way any pollaxe is, tbqh. It's like a "standard" pollaxe, but it has a sharp beak-like pick-axe head instead of a normal axe blade. You can punch through armour with it. The reverse would have a hammer head, and of course the tip is a long spearhead.

Lucerne hammers are basically the same, except the pick-axe bit is meant to be used on unarmoured shitters instead. Pollaxes are really just the best.

I'm pretty sure guns are way more effective.

I thought swords were just status symbols and also art.

It depends on the piercing weapon too
A spear might do damage if you get a weak spot or a joint but over all you'll just glance off
A hammer did hurt but remember that there was padding of a gambeson underneath
They didn't wear plate naked that's retarded
The last thing is that even if they DID pierced, it hardly did any physical damage unless you go and hit them again and again
You can and will keep fighting from adrenaline when you suffer from wounds that are only an inch deep

Dragoons will forever be my favourite class.
>Fuck how do we reach these flying bastards?
>Just jump really high motherfucker

>the most effective weapon in history
And that's why we use spears instead of guns.

>the most effective weapon in history
Bow? I actually kindof dislike how bows are presented in most games, they shouldnt be rapid fire with weak damage or just plink enemies as they run at you, it should be knocking people flying when you hit them and shit or at least having them react to being hit, I want to pin people to walls and feel like it actually has some impact. Fuck that Legolas shit where it seems like you are firing toothpicks from a toy.

This is a thread about spears, pike and polearms, dumbass, which were successful as weapons because they were cheap as fuck to make and super easy to handle by inexperienced nce peasants. Hand a bunch a pikes to peasant, pack them together and voilà. They probably could learn the basic of spear and pike fighting faster than crossbow

His outfit is his sports uniform. He armoured up that arm because he shoulder charges opponents

Tree bark is barely armour

The swords are better for mobility. In fact Romans prioritized mobility so much that their poles weren't like that at all. This is what a pole weapon looked like in ancient rome

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Eastern barely had plate armour

Nice I guess I get to be in charge

Say that to

You watch to many hours my friend
Yes they did hit hard but you have to remember it's 100 pounds on an arrow that will slow down once the string stops pushing/pulling it
It's more like a small arms gun hitting you
It'll hurt a lot
You will fall over
But it won't send you flying
Also legolas did shoot hard hitting arrows
The problem is that his draw looks too easy and weak

Because slashing wasn't really required when you had enough of these and shields to create human porkypine

sup faggot

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I think you misunderstand what I mean, I would LIKE them to do that in games, make them fun and satisfying rather than just DPS turrets, I know they arent like that in reality. What I meant by Legolas shit is that it looks like hes just strumming a toy, it looks really low weight and there is no impact on anything he hits, they just fall over.
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Look at Lurtz drawing a bow vs Legolas, look at how its affecting Boromir, even if Legolas is using a higher draw weight bow it looks weak as shit. There feels like actual impact and strength behind Lurtz's shots.

Pole-arms were battlefield weapons of war. Most fantasy games don't feature battlefield warfare but self-defence scenarios and raids.

On the other hand, while a single pike may not do much, ten pikes all aimed at you with the weight of a thousand men behind them can and will utterly fuck your shit up.
Spearfags disgust me.
China did that, but with disastrous results (see: the most fatal battle in all of history). Generally, you need at least a few months to train even pike shitters (the same amount of time to train a basic crossbow shitter).
This

Is there a single other instance of a 'shuriken' designed like this?

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>Fantasy setting
>Polearms are subpar
>In a fantasy setting
>Which has large quantities of huge monsters everywhere
>Which you want to run up to with a dagger or hand axe to shiv in extreme close combat

Good luck with that!

Yo, your common sense has no place in their psuedo-realism!
They're talking about plate armor!

Poking a foul beast from polearm range is always preferable to poking a foul beast from sword range.

But OTOH lugging a big polearm around the country might not be the best idea

Until you stab the troll and he gets pissed and breaks your poker in half

nigga I'd rather a troll broke my poker in half (if he could even catch it, doublehanded polearms are mad fast) over having it break me in half.

Sounds like it's pretty effective then.

>(if he could even catch it, doublehanded polearms are mad fast
He catches it when you poke it into him and now you're unarmed. Should have stayed at home and married the bakers cute slightly chubby daughter, but oh no you had to see the world and go on "epic" adventures

motherfucker we were debating polearms vs poleless arms.
If I knew staying home and marrying the baker's cute slightly chubby daughter was an option I'd have two daughters by now.

Polearms are gay, there I said it
Swords and axes are just cooler

What the fuck is your alternative, user? You think a guy who can break a "poker" like a halberd in half gives two shits for a sword or a bow?

Reminder that humans drove bears, wolves, tigers and lions to extinction.

It's easy to kill big things if you have lots of people with dogs, spears, and javelins.

>What the fuck is your alternative, user?
Staying at home and marrying the cute slightly chubby bakers daughter.

Due to overcrowding at home, the fourth son of the troll chieftain comes down from the mountains and kills you, rapes your bread, snacks on your wife and redecorates your home. Looks like there's a reason people hunt trolls.

>not wooing the princess, deflowering her, and marrying into royalty
Step up your game

fuck you

>not wooing the troll, introducing him to prostate orgasm, and becoming the high shaman of a homosexual troll raiding orgy of unprecedented scale
weak

>sword saint
>uses a spear taken from some cuck he killed
>and a glock
>in sengoku period

Damn Dwarves not doing their job and killing the trolls what's the Emperor even paying them for

Doesn't matter, married and had sex with the cute slightly chubby baker's daughter

Have sex.

With the cute slightly chubby baker's daughter, got it.

Well nobody can rat him out if he kills them.

>Thinking people will allow the mixing of the princess' pure bloodline that allows her to cast ancient magic with your serf nigger blood

*grabs you*

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>thinking people can stop me
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Superior H-manga coming through
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No they didn't. That's a pilum, a type of javelin.

Those are javelins. The thinness isn't for weight or mobility, but for fragility. They're strong and heavy enough to deal good damage, but are built to break on impact, so they can't be thrown back.

This guy romes

>shuriken was a cinema invention

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*Happy Ad Mortem*

>uses a movie poster to support his claim

Halberds and polearms are the shit in Dark Souls. Splitleaf Greatsword is one of the best weapons in the game

I used a lightning spear briefly in anor londo.

Wouldn't that blow break your rins?

*ribs

rautaportti.fi/other_weapons/all_of_the_other_weapons

You get your shit fucked everytime someone use one of those in sekiro.

Yeah, that's the point. Can't cut or stab? Smash

Because it's literally *supposed* to be one.
Ekus appeared in fishing villages after all weaponry got forbidden to peasants.
Think of it as the japanese version of rule-lawyering around 2nd amendment restrictions.

I use them in MapleStory

Titania wielding a Steel Poleaxe in Radiant Dawn.

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didn't guns and cannons make both plate armor and castles next to useless? that's what i learnt at school

Pre-A-level history is pretty rubbish unless you have good teachers.

Gunpowder was introduced to Europe in the 1300s, and castles and medieval-style plate hung around until the 1500s. As gunpowder technology progressed, castles and armour were indeed made obsolete. But this took a bloody long time, especially for armour. Until the late 1600s we were still able to produce plate that'd stop a bullet in its tracks. It was a lot heavier than medieval plate, so you had to wear less of it.

Side note: to prove to your customers that your armour could stop bullets, you would shoot it. The dent in the armour would prove its quality; it was "bullet-proof".

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But a man with a spear vs a man with a sword has a massive advantage in reach even when it's 1v1

He's also never going to bring that spear with him into a town or city, and he'd be one strange guy to lug it all over the countryside with him.

Why not? It functions fine as a walking stick

It's a fucking heavy walking stick

We're not talking about pikes here. Short spears are still more useful than swords in most cases.

>shooting game
>9mm pistols do more damage than an assault rifle
>shotguns have point blank range which turns into compressed air if enemy has any armour
>SAW's and shit have such low damage its like firing BB's at someone rather than blowing their spine in half in one shot
>bolt action rifles have more accuracy and range, even next to semi-auto snipers that were designed as a long range sniping weapon from the start

Test

something something naruto

Short spears are still too heavy to walk around with casually, totally leaving aside the social concerns. Swords are useful because they're socially acceptable, pretty light, and still good at killing people.
FAILED.

>Yajiri Nari Yari
what a name
Aslo Tsukubo seems fun

there are incels, and there are wizards, young frodo

a wizard "arrives" precisely when he wants to

Is there ANY game besides For Honor where you can use a Tetsubo?

There is a weapon (I don't think it's a shiruken) that is basically a spike or a knife attached to a rope or chain. You spin it like a kusari fundo then release. I haven't seen anything with that weird spiky guard though.

Some games have them, they are OP because of the range.

Now this is a man who knows what he wants in life.
That was oddly specific though.

For the same reason they were so good in actual history - they have a lower skill floor than alternatives.
The common "just give the peasants pikes!" meme shows it, in the eyes of most people polearms are a peasant weapon, not an epic cool guy weapon like a sword.
Sort of similar to how people view bowmen as cool and skilled, and crossbowmen as retarded unga bunga point at baddies and shoot peasants.

there are plenty of historical japanese martial arts that use shuriken, you're pretty much dead wrong there.

you're right about everything else though

>are built to break on impact, so they can't be thrown back.
that's pretty clever

a bunch, including a recent shitty game called outward, although you wield it like a one handed club because faggotry. some old tenchu games let you play as a bonus character in multiplayer who used one, shit hurt but largely irrelevant

it doesn't count as you mean it but you can use a unit of tetsubo warriors in shogun 2 as well for what its worth

are there any feudal games out there totally focused on sengoku japan and ALL of its weapons, instead of just katanas and shit? i don't think even nioh has tetsubo / kanabo

People historically did not do this so it probably was not an option. And a functional spear is quite a big longer and heavier than a walking stick.

I don't buy it. If you look at actual epics and ballads, spears are the default I'm-a-hero weapon. The Iliad has 'em. Chivalric Romance has 'em (lances). The main one that doesn't is Beowulf.

I think it comes from the Victorian period. All that nationalist worship of Arthur by people who'd never read it. Excalibur was too famous.

based and hookbilled

A sword IS a short spear. And as soon as you approach lengths of where a spear significantly outreaches a sword it also becomes more and more impractical to carry around in daily life.

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It's a /tg/ thing

You would wear padding or additional armor underneath the plate

In Sekiro, polearms fuck your shit up so bad until you master the makiri counter

lances were a horse weapon and the iliad and similar time periods were primarily spears and a sword was backup

Yes, and?

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>being a realismfag
>everyday you have to make gay post on Yea Forums or /tg/
What an awful life.

What's so bad about the Uchiwa? Lets you use your WInd Jutsus more effectively.

Tastelet detected
realism is the best foundation for absolute unrealism

Realism is people who are to stupid to understand History so they constantly make shit up to impress the real Historyfags and normalfags who won't question it. Fuck brainlet

Shields aren't attached to your body, they're mobile defense and can easily bypass polearms if you so much as knock it out of the way or move to the side. Then just move in and stab, any thrust or slash with efficient force behind it wounds or kills.

Except Knights still used mainly polearm.
The sword was a side weapon.

>le epic "Japanese swords were only for status and killing peasants" maymay

This popular misconception is as ridiculous and ignorant as the "folded one trillion times and can cut the sun in two" memes of Japanese swords. Yes, more often then not the sword was the sidearm of Bushi and others while they used polearms/spears/bows and later guns as their primary weapons. But swords were still used to a tremendous extant in battle as well. One samurai using a Tachi style sword (an older style Japanese sword that was the predecessor to the Katana and thus less adept against armor) killed four armored samurai in a single battle with his Tachi.

>magic exists
>not just casting bullet

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Wew, that's some chip you've got on your shoulder. Realism is great because it provides grounding and cohesion, which in turn gives your fantastic elements more weight. I don't know why you'd dismiss it so instantly.
They're wearing armour. Your thrust fails, unless it fits within the tiny gaps. Also, your arm is now broken, because polearms hit like a fucking truck. There's a reason shields weren't used in combat once plate was invented.

This
Swords were sidearms, but that still meant they were arms. It's true that it's mostly Edo-era self-fellation that ejaculated the sword to the top of the Japanese consciousness, but it was still an effective weapon before that.

user, that webm you quoted shows the force from the pole arm fucking up the insides of that plate wearing balistic jelly. Hard to fight with broken ribs.

It was sarcasm.

Which is strange, because IMO it's pretty correct if you take it at face value. Plate armour was GOAT.

>people not carrying both a spear and sword for killing both large monsters and people alike

For christ's sake if you're a fighter type class in a generic fantasy singleplayer game there's no reason not to carry two weapons, one for killing monsters and another for people sized things. Bonus points if certain enchants(or similar effects) are a must on one weapon but practically pointless on another, like having your spear inlaid with silver makes sense because if you try use a sword against a wherewolf, he'll likely be able to close in and tear you to shreds, where on the other hand you always get your sword/mace blessed by a priest because the undead are normally mansized, located in more enclosed spaces, and some are intelligent enough to not attack like a wild/retarded animal. Bonus points if there's places in the game where you have to check certain weapons at the gate to satisfy the autism of "bUT mUh SocIAL iMpLiCATiOns!!!"fags, pro tip to those fags: Swords were more often banned than spears or other weapons so it makes sense that the weird implications would occur with the guy who carries his sword in a town than the boar/monster hunter who carries his spear on his back.

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>People forget that even guns couldn't pierce plate.
Yeah old Shitty guns. Modern guns BTFO plate armor.

Yes, user, and so do nuclear missiles.

There's also a reason polearms are abandoned after the initial charge in the battlefield.
>Your thrust fails, unless it fits within the tiny gaps
Which is precisely what some swords, such as the Estoc are designed to do, they're weapons for skilled wielders, there's more than enough gaps in both plate and chainmail to stab at.
>Also, your arm is now broken, because polearms hit like a fucking truck.
Except the polearm isn't hitting anything, the point is it's been rendered inefficient and useless after being bypassed.
>There's a reason shields weren't used in combat once plate was invented.
They were actually used, just changed shape and size after the 12th century. Plate armour only reached its peak at the same time it was rendered virtually useless by muskets.

Way to out yourself as a retard in the first post. You should have said "medieval," not "fantasy." If it's a fantasy game then realism is obviously not a priority

>abandoned
lmao what
>estoc
Two-handed. Impossible to use with a shield.
>bypassed
It's already fucked up your arm, and now they can just step backwards and do it again.

Why not?

>Two-handed. Impossible to use with a shield.
Nothing stopping it from being one-handed and the half-sword technique was designed with the purpose of bypassing plate armor
>It's already fucked up your arm, and now they can just step backwards and do it again.
It hasn't fucked up your arm because it doesn't have the blunt force or precision required to so.

This guy gets it, unless everyone here is talking about total war, half these arguments are pointless. Wars were fought and won by peasants, plate armor and fancy swords are status symbols so much as weapons.

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>Nothing stopping it from being one-handed
Except its length and weight.
>half-sword
an emergency manoeuvre designed to let you use your sidearm against plated foes. Very much inferior to a polearm.

It absolutely has the blunt force and precision to fuck up your arm. This shit bursts open plate.

Look, man, I think the fact nobody used shields outside of Spain for like ten years should give you a clue here.
Depends on the place and era. For the most part in Europe, wars were fought and won by either low nobility or middle-class folk. China is a different, fucked-up story.

You are very wrong about plate armor being resistant to bullets to a certain extent. Shoulder fired guns DID pierce even the best plate. But they were the newer and much more powerful muskets, not smaller arquebuses and calivers. Sure, some armor could stop muskets balls up to a certain ball weight/diameter and to certain range. But gun makers would simply make larger muskets with larger powder loads and larger bores that could be supported by a "tounge" and these would pierce the very best armor. This competition between armor and gun makers eventually ended by the late 17th century as armor would have to get riculously heavy the gun makers would simply keep making larger guns but these would be more tiresome to wield on a quickly changing battlefield situation. So eventually the armor makers stopped making these plates and thus less large bore muskets were used, until eventually armor only existed with the cuirasse and thus gun wielders could relax and use more "manageable" muskets in the .69-75 caliber range for the next two hundred years.

layered rows of spears vs single line of infantry

China is little different. After the Han dynasty, a full scale conscription system was no longer used and all dynasties afterwards based the bulk of their army from levying military service not from your average peasant but from military households. The real difference is that peasant rebellions could and did pose a much more serious military threat than those in Europe.

It varied. The Ming dynasty used peasant conscripts, for example.

As the bulk of their forces? No, aside from the very early period when the dynasty had been founded from a large-scale peasant/millenarian rebellion, the Ming too quickly changed its system to levy military service from military households. Many historians today even draw comparisons to the mid/late Ming armies to mercenary armies of early modern Europe.

>Except its length and weight.
Both of these can be changed, the tuck is a shape of sword.
>an emergency manoeuvre designed to let you use your sidearm against plated foes. Very much inferior to a polearm.
It was designed to execute more powerful thrusts through plate and chain.
>It absolutely has the blunt force and precision to fuck up your arm. This shit bursts open plate.
That's implying that the tip of the polearm is thrust through the plate, I'm not going with the implication that someone is stabbed directly in the arm with a polearm.
>Look, man, I think the fact nobody used shields outside of Spain for like ten years should give you a clue here.
Shields were never discarded, they were made smaller, like bucklers or not used on knights wearing full plate with a longsword but this is assuming everyone was a knight wearing full plate, wielding a two-handed sword.