What was the most memorable moral dilemma you faced in a game?

Confess - 0 or 5 years
Remain silent - 1 or 20 years

That's pretty neat.

you’re assuming the opponent is flipping a coin to choose their strategy, which isn’t the case
the best outcome is only possible if both remain silent

Too bad that in Fable 2 exp was easier to get than getting stabbed in Detroit.

Also the exp they took from you was absolutely paltry for that point in the game, not to mention you're probably maxed out anyway at that point.

You're a fool. You always confess. Assume that the other player will always pick the most beneficial for them, which will always be confessing because you either get 0 years, or 5 years. 5 > 20, and 0 > 1. No matter what player A will do, confessing is better in every scenario.

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absolutely based

And you're assuming the prisoners aren't selfish. Best outcome is to confess.

This assumes you're only playing one round with the same person, if you're playing multiple rounds with one person then it is better to act punitively but also with forgiveness. As in, you get snitched on, you snitch the next round until after he stops.

Detroit Become Human had a few good ones

That is even assuming they took experience in the first place.

>the best outcome is only possible if both remain silent
Not for him. He can get out a year early for talking, so why wouldn't he, if he thinks you're gonna stay silent?

Why would the orange guy get 0 years for confessing to the crime? That's just absurd, in real life that's not going to happen.

Good job ruining your own thread with a faggot picture, OP.

>do you want 0-5 years or 1-20 years
hmmmmm

This dilemma is applicable because it's one time thing, fool.

In the prisoners dilemma, always assume the other will confess. In real life, get branded a snitch and get shanked in prison.

>what is witness protection program

What a retarded image, that's not how the legal system works.

Why do you get 0 years if you confess a crime while the other gets 20 years if they don't confess a crime?

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This isn't a dilemma, any criminal who has worthwhile information and accomplices works in organized crime or is dead and knows if they talk they'll be the ones who will want 20 years in prison for personal protection, which likely wouldn't even be enough.

>fuck the troops
fuck you liberal
4 more years

Snitching on the other guy. Gets a plea deal.

>4 more years of dying for israel

good job OP, you posted the worst image of the week.

>As in, you get snitched on, you snitch the next round until after he stops.
And no matter what you'll still end up behind him, because you were dumb enough to remain silent. Why would he ever stay silent if he knows you're going to be confessing every single time?
The prisoner's dilemma is a one time game anyways.

>Ultima Online

MY NIGGA

>what is WITNESS protection program
You answered your own fucking question you fucking dolt.

The only way you would get off scot free is if you were some low-ranking mafia member and you were giving information that implicates the Don. I.e., if you're a petty criminal and he's one of the most wanted men around. But the situation in OP's picture is implying that both prisoners are equally guilty of the same crime - otherwise they wouldn't both get 5 years if they both confessed.

Thank you

Because they ratted the other guy out.
In such a situation you're to assume both people were involved in the same crime, the one confessing gets a much lighter sentence because to a judge it seems as though the person is remorseful, where the person who doesn't is completely lacking any empathy, while if neither confess, there's not really enough to throw the book at them.
A lot of people have very little understanding of the legal system, a lot of the time when you're being questioned it's because they NEED information you have, you'd be getting spitroasted if they just knew everything.

It's an example of a hypothetical type of dilemma, not one to use put under the scope of the real world implications of gangs and other organized crime.

Reminds me how cops will just hound a confession outta you during interrogation because they want a quick easy case to boost their numbers.

you're assuming the other person wouldnt screw you over
you're free to remain silent in prison for 20 years while the other guy fucks your wife

lmao 4 more years of the troops dying in iraq and afghanistan was fine by me.

Can't believe you'd press betray, you selfish prick

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Do I always have the right to a lawyer?

Never in any circumstances even talk to cops.

Then just represent it with math, there's no point in a hypothetical that doesn't have a basis in reality except for personal entertainment through an interesting concept. You can argue when your selected field has a reproduction rate of over 70% for published papers, but until then bring me more pecan sandies, slave.

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>Yea Forums in charge of math

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There are no moral dilemmas in games. They're just games. I choose the option that gives me the best gear or perk.

Reminds me how stupid people are that they don’t remain silent.

You'd be a moron not to confess in this scenario. 5 years is hard but still doable, 20 years is close to the rest of your adult life and you'd be so disadvantaged once you got out that your life outside isn't going to be much better.

>taking a moral dilemma example this literally
The idea is to take the given rules and think about what you would do or how someone should act in a situation like this. You're taking the prison aspect too literally. It could be any situation where one person benefits and the other suffers to similar degrees proportionately.

1/2

I don't get it.

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Game theory is a pretty well-established field. The hypothetical is used to represent a common theme that crops up.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prisoner's_dilemma

Based retard

50%

Yeah, instead we should train and educate the police force and give them a budget comparable to the military instead of literally just hiring anyone with a GED and academy training.

More like gay theory. The pecan sandies now or I use the stick.

3 balls are still in the game, 2 of them are gold, one is silver.
Try again

Remain silent, have the other prisoner killed.

50%
Your first pull was either from the gold/gold, or the gold/silver

Gold ball is predetermined, so we can throw out the other box that only has silvers from the equation, meaning it's a 1/2 shot of being the silver or gold because there's only 2 boxes that it could be.

Based retard

So then whats the dilemma? Seems like confessing is objectively superior for both parties even not knowing what the other will do

thanks.

2/3rd is the true answer brainlets btfo

50%. Because you must have picked either the left hand box or the centre box. You have taken a gold ball out of that box, so basically the ball remaining in that box is either going to be gold (if it's the left hand box) or silver (if it's the centre box). So it's 50%.

It's just to put it in more layman's terms. It could easily be put into the context of two coworkers trying to get a raise at work, or to siblings trying to get more time on their shared game console by involving a parent.

Has any game utilized the prisoner's dilemma better than pic related?

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No, there's only one ball still in the game.
You selected a box, and removed a ball from it.
There's only one ball left in that box

You're fucking retarded.

Simpler one for the retards.

Suppose you're on a game show, and you're given the choice of three doors: Behind one door is a car; behind the others, goats. You pick a door, say No. 1, and the host, who knows what's behind the doors, opens another door, say No. 3, which has a goat. He then says to you, "Do you want to pick door No. 2?" Is it to your advantage to switch your choice?

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There are 3 balls in the game, change that you will pull out next gold ball is 2/3, change that you are in the right box is 1/2

You're correct. The name is a bit of a misnomer, but a large amount of people don't know how to work through these, or have "trust" in their hypothetical "partner".

does anyone else feel like history is just a series of large scale prisoners dilemmas

Probability can't be calculated for random odds due to the nature of being random, it's merely a crutch for a dying concept. Chad sociological-mathematics meanwhile can be proven and aren't beaten immediately by a random number generator. Chance is literally just as much of an illusion as time.

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Oh wow, I'm retarded.
Looks like I join the ranks of the brainlets.

That's the point.
The purpose of the prisoner's dilemma isn't exactly useful for the ones choosing.

The point is that it's a trick to get both criminals to confess and serve a longer period, 5 years, rather than one of them getting away or them both only getting 1 year.
It's the basis of game theory which is really about working a player's emotions while making them feel in control.

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spbp

No, explain to me right now how your previous one is not one half.

Yes, I want to pick Door 2

Everyone knows this. Post something else.

why you're so meanie? :c

You idiot. This isn't the same as the monty hall problem. There is no switch that gives you better odds. You either have the box or not.

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only GAYS beneath this line

The funny part is how people still get Monty Hall's problem wrong even when all experimemtal results via law of large numbers prove that switching is better.

It's logical really.
For an individual, confessing is objectively superior.
For both of you, obviously remaining silent is the best option.
The problem is that the other party is not in your control what so ever, so you're back to choosing the individual option, which makes confessing a better choice.

Liking traps does not make me homosexual.

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you type like a faggot

I love how people always post these and pretend they did the math themselves and came to the conclusion, instead of just copy pasting the same exact statistic problems that get posted in every thread while the poster thinks they are somehow superior because they've read the solution before and are now reposting it.

you pick a ball out of the box and it's gold
there's a 1/3 chance it's any particular gold ball, so there's a total 2/3 chance it's from the first box and a 1/3 chance it's from the second box.

It really doesn't matter because in the end it's 50/50. You win, or you lose.

Yeah, but being beneath the line does

Best response is confess. You can't trust the other guy, he'll put you in the slammer for 20 years. Confess and the worst that can happen is 5.

have sex

Not really, it will be a 50/50 shot of you getting the car because there are two doors left - one with a car and one with a goat. So whether you change your choice or not, you still have a 50% chance of winning.

you dont just pick a box, you pick a box and then pick which ball to take out of the box first. secretly you are making 2 choices. here are all the options for the first ball pick.
box 1, gold left ball
box 1, gold right ball
box 2, gold left ball
box 2, silver right ball
box 3, silver left ball
box 3, silver right ball
you have 6 possible choices for the first ball to pick. 3 of the choices result in a gold ball being picked first. 2 of the gold ball picks lead to getting a second gold ball in the box. 2/3rds

Shut up copper.

how bout you grab these balls looooool

Chance that you get gold ball from gold box - 1/3
Chance that you get gold ball from mixed box - 1/6
If you renormalize on these two events, you get 2/3 for getting gold ball from gold box .
Answer is 2/3.

no i will sex not

I've tried to explain it's 2/3 to Yea Forums so many times that I've come to the conclusion that it is simply impossible.
I'll try to do it one more time in the most autistic way possible.
Imagine the same problem, but the boxes are huge.
You put 100 silver balls in the first box, 99 silver ball and 1 golden in the second box, and finally 100 golden balls in the third.
You then pick a box at random and then pull out a ball blindly. It is golden.
WHAT IS MORE PROBABLE? That you pulled the single golden ball out of 100 from the second box or that you pulled one of the 100 golden balls from the third box?

Box 3 is irrelevant because we already know that the first pick is gold from the problem.

Give sex.

lmfao

Why the fuck did you post monty hall 2.0 in what could've been a nice thread.
Fuck you.
2/3 and anyone who says otherwise is too idiotic to switch doors

that doesnt change anything about the explanation i gave, brainlet.

Always confess, the other guy 9/10 is going to snitch on you.

this guy explained it just fine

based

obviously not, dummy

it's not the same, but they can both be solved using bayes theorem (or visually if you didn't take math classes post-HS)

im copy pasting them because most of you are legit retarded but I do have an independent interest in stats / game theory and solved all of them before I knew what they were :^)

nope

based

schizo, but based

It’s to you’re advantage to switch because now it’s 50% odds you will pick the right door, which would be the same answer to the last problem. You are kind of retarded aren’t you? The odds are being recalculated in the gold ball problem. The question was what are the odds the next ball you pick up in gold. The question was not what are the odds you pick up 2 gold balls in a row. So the answer is 50%.

It's 50% you fucking morons, how the fuck can you be this fucking dense?

In the situation, it's already a given that you've picked a box and taken a gold ball out of that box. The question is, what is the probability that the NEXT ball is also gold?

The answer is 50%, because there are only two boxes that could give you a gold ball on your first pick - the one with two golds, and the one with one gold and one silver. You must have picked one of these boxes. The next ball you pick will either be gold, if the box you're picking from is the gold/gold box, or it will be silver, if you're picking from the gold/silver box.

The answer is therefore 50%. Holy fuck how are you this fucking stupid?

The point is that the announcer will ALWAYS open a fake door after your first pick.
Let's say c is the winning door in an example.
You pick a, he opens b, you switch to c and win
You pick b, he opens a, you switch to c and win
You pick c, he opens a or b, you switch and lose.

It's not a 50/50 if you look at the whole problem.

>If you renormalize on these two events
Why would you do that?
We already know we have a gold ball, that entire part of the equation is now null and void.
It's literally 1/2.

have fun dying for a retard who couldn't give a fuck about you

woahh did you come up with this problem yourself? you must be a super smart man coming up with these things yourself. surely youre not just parroting questions that have been done to death on this faggot board for retards, not with that high and mighty attitude you have. Lol just kidding, hey I'm going to stomp on your neck until you die

>it's to your advantage to switch
>it's 50%
>because the past doesn't exist
How did you skip out on object permanence?

>playing civilization 5
>friends are a couple of care bear cowards
>meaning that war between human players is forbidden
>spend every game building up 1 or 2 AI
>then bribing the AI into fighting them
>gift advanced units to any city state they try to capture for themselves
Probably had more fun being underhanded than I would if normal warfare had stayed on the table actually.

See, we got two live specimens right here. Outright denial of reality, go to that symulator site that does 100 Monty Halls per second and see if you EVER get close to 50%

But there's three gold balls.

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The problem itself is saying that box 3 of silver/silver does not matter, since we already know that it has gold. It is not asking "what is the probability that the box you chose is gold-gold", it is asking "what is the probability that the next ball you pick will also be gold".
Since box 3 is taken out of the equation by the problem itself, we can rule it to 1/2.

They are attention whores.

What do you see, Yea Forums?

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You either get a gold ball
Or you get a silver ball
50/50 game set match, OWNED faggots

if you confess, you'll either get 0 or get shanked in prison for having the wrong kind of crime

No because the psychological damage of changing to an incorrect door would be devastating

there are 3 possible choices for the first gold ball
>box 1, gold left ball
>box 1, gold right ball
>box 2, gold left ball
2 out of the 3 choices result in a 2nd gold ball
the odds are 2 out of 3

You LITERALLY said the equivalent of "winning the lottery is always a 50% chance, because you can only either win or lose"
Probability doesn't work like that.

It’s not so much a dilemma as a thought experiment showing that self-interest can lead to a worse outcome for everyone involved, since given the conditions (mostly, not knowing what the other guy picked) the option that should lead to greatest personal gain ends up screwing you because the other guy also picked it, and when both players pick that option you both get screwed

thats exactly how probability works. try keeping up and maybe youll attend college math courses like i do, bitch

saw a polar bear kissing its cub on the nose
looking at it more i have no idea
am i being memed upon

It's a dog.

I see a half-buried crucifix in front of a crooked tombstone

But those two questions are the same, user.

You must have chosen one of the boxes with a gold in it, because otherwise you wouldn't have pulled a gold initially. So the box you picked either has another gold in it, or a silver in it (because it must be either the left or centre box). That is why the answer is 50%. The next ball you pull could be the second gold from the left box, or it could be the silver from the centre box. There is an equal probability of both. That is why the answer is 50%.

a fox with its head down, sniffing the ground. wtf im a furry now?

i like mine better :D

is that a motherfucking windmill
fuck you for posting this

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Drowzee bent over on all fours, sticking his nose out like an elephant or some shit

But user,
There's three gold balls, not two.

you're dad sucking my dick lmao

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Your first pull was either from the first gold ball, the second, or the third gold ball.

Dunning-Kruger effect in the wild.

What college do you attend that teaches that winning at any lottery is always a 50% chance?

But user. You take a gold ball out, leaving you with either one silver or one gold left.

The original monty hall problem is written with a critical flaw. It doesn't say the exact behavior of the host in every situation. The problem is short, simplified and only tells us what the host does once. How do we know how he behaves? In case of doubt, always assume the host is malicious. It's entirely possible for the host to only open the door if you picked the correct door right from the start, thus making you switch to the incorrect one if you make the mistake of assuming he is neutral and fair. Not only it's possible, it's also likely and logical. He's a game show host, he benefits from making you lose to keep the prize. If you're not told he is neutral and fair, why assume it?

Yes, or the other gold, since there's three gold balls.
There's three gold balls, so there's three cases.

reminds me of an art project i did in high school for some reson.
Just fun with color theory. The greens on the inside are the same color.

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I remember answering this correctly before, its 2/3. But when I saw it again I immediately thought it must be 1/2. Why is probability such a bitch to wrap your head around?

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I don't think it was the libs who elected Trump, who mocks the military all the time

Grass cress shield?

A shadowed hulk hogan looking up and to the right.

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When the question starts, there's only one gold ball.
The question does not start until after you already pull a ball out, leaving one gold ball left.

A Kirin being hit by a hunting horn. I can see absolutely nothing else

Are you 12?

lol

Game shows are not about withholding prizes from contestants, they're about getting views.

>all these retarded answers
that's a funyanrinpa you retards

uchicago. checkmate, faggot. im smarter then you are and your a little bitch scrambling to cope

Damn you are really smart, here's another math problem for you.
You have 6 eggs, you break two eggs, you fry 2 eggs, you prepare 2 omelettes. How many eggs you have left?

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That's clearly a funyarinpa.

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Push the fat guy

6 but in different conformations

its not really a probability issue, its a dishonest trick question. the question tricks you into thinking you are making a choice between box 1 and box 2, but really you are making a choice between 3 gold balls.

Did you read the question?
Selecting a ball only happens until halfway.
Disregarding that, there's three gold balls, not two.

Thanks doc

i would never have 6 eggs. dont make such assumptions about my family

do i have to eat them

>Uchicago

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We are not told that the balls are different in any meaningful way so we cannot assume that order or placement of the balls matter.

4, assuming you're using the same two eggs to make the fucking omelettes.

thats right, cope for me

>It's the basis of game theory which is really about working a player's emotions while making them feel in control.
This is wrong.

the original monty hall problem states that the host will always reveal a goat. thats his exact behavior in every single situation

>im smarter then you
You aren't the same user, are you? You cheeky motherfucker

>there's three gold balls, not two.
There's actually only two gold balls because you've taken one out of the box already.

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I've just realised that the box you DIDN'T pick from would still have two balls left. Apologies, I forgot to account for that.

So yeah it would be a 2/3 chance that the next ball you pick is gold, because there are three balls across those two boxes left, and two of them must still be gold (although how they're arranged won't always be the same).

It's a well known flaw.
>The version of the Monty Hall problem published in Parade in 1990 did not specifically state that the host would always open another door, or always offer a choice to switch, or even never open the door revealing the car.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monty_Hall_problem#Other_host_behaviors
The host behavior "Monty from Hell" is the one you should look out for. Switching always make you lose.

I have to say it was in Bastard Bonds.
You can either
make a deal with a demon that will fuck up the island after 500 years but (almost) all of your friends get a happier ending and you save a god from being murdered/insane. You also become king/queen of the island and make everyone's lives there better
but... you probably fuck up the rest of the world because said demon controls the ancient god after 500 years.
OR
You can kill the insane ancient god with the power of friendship and you and all of your friends have a kinda happy ending while living in orc land and everyone on the island is shit out of luck in a horrible barren wasteland.
It was honestly a tough decision.

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>take ball out of box
>it stops existing
How did you skip out on learning object permanence in your infancy?

ive been calling you a fag this whole time. i genuinely hate you and i would stab you through the throat with a screwdriver if given the chance

>it stops existing
Yes, for the context of the problem, it does.

Incorrect, see

>self-interest can lead to a worse outcome for everyone involved
pic related

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It is easier to restate it as if you draw a gold one what is the chance that you are in the box that has two gold balls. Now it is obvious the chance should be higher than 50/50

No it doesn't, the fact that you picked the golden ball IS the context fucking retard.

>the setup doesn't matter for the puzzle
How did you skip out on learning object permanence in your infancy?

Someone with a hat on is killing or raping someone lying down that's trying to fend for him/herself

The math works but my mind still can't believe its not 1/2. At least even Erdos found Monty hall unbelievable so I guess it's alright.

>golden ball IS the context fucking retard.
Exactly, so since it's the context of the problem, it is not a part of the solution itself. The ball is gone, it is not a part of the game anymore. You only have the choice of hitting a gold or a silver.

Ignoring the point of the probability excercise and changing it doesn't make it a flaw.

It literally does not matter whether the host knows what's behind the doors or not.

I shoulda clarified that it's like that for the use in video games.
Game theory is the science of choice. The point of it withing game design is that it helps one understand how to guide such choices and drive someone along a path while making them feel like they have agency.

Prisoner's dilemma, looked at from a game design perspective with game theory in mind, is more a thing for the ones trying to secure the best punishment for the criminals than the criminals themselves making the choice.
Which mirrors the way thought processes like it are used more by designers trying to get players to do or feel something of their own choosing.

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the balls are different. some are silver, some are gold.
the order you withdraw the balls matters. if you withdraw a silver one first, it fails to meet the questions criteria.
you have 2 chances to withdraw a gold ball in the correct order from box 1
you have 1 chance to withdraw a gold ball in the correct order from box 2

3 possible choices
2 are winning choices
2 out of 3

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>Assume that the other player will always pick the most beneficial for them

Criminals are fucking stupid and selfish most of the time though. Also bitchboys like you act all though here but are the first ones to cry and beg for mercy.

this

Here's a puzzle for you braindead fucks who think it's 50%:
three sons, two brothers, two fathers, a grandfather, a grandson and a cousin go out fishing. They all catch one fish. How many fish have been caught?

>Mentioning the silver ball box at all
>Not taking into account you could NOT switch and win

I can very clearly see into those boxes

It's just a fucking dog, I hate all these "I'm so silly" answers.

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>you have 2 chances to withdraw a gold ball in the correct order from box 1
No, because one ball is already out before the question starts. You have 1 chance to withdraw a gold ball.

The question intentionally leads the undiligent reader to see the problem as mostly related to the boxes, when you should be focusing on the gold balls as gold ball #1, gold ball #2, and gold ball #3.

God I wish being braindead were a bannable offense. How can you possibly think the puzzle doesn't matter for the solution? If you make a jigsaw, do your throw out the pieces you've successfully laid down too?

One of course.

People get murdered in jail all the time. It's not safe. A person who snitches on organized crime wants to be put in a witness protection program , they want to vanish entirely in a different country. If they get put in jail they got fucked over hard by the police, it's likely a death sentence, just a matter of time

mazes.com/math/probability/presidents.php

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Rational actors don't exist in real life. You have to confess every time, do not even hesitate.

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4/27 chance

Genuinely don't see a dog in that.

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Because it isn't a part of the problem anymore, fucknut. It's not asking for odds of gold-gold, it's asking for what are the odds that the NEXT ball will be gold. And there's only two balls left, one gold and one silver.

there are 3 possible situations that lead up to that point in the question. you could have taken gold ball 1 from box 1, gold ball 2 from box 1, or gold ball 1 from box 2. 2 out of 3 of those situations will result in you picking a second gold ball out of the box

>Iron Code
>Kuro

Yes goy, die for Israel

Listen up, you shrodinger wanna be piece of cunt,
You pick ONE ball. One. No more, no fewer. Yet here you are, acting as if picking ONE gold ball at random, which could be from TWO boxes, removes a/the gold ball from BOTH of them, and now you're choosing again. If all the explaination in this thread hasn't helped you realize the thinking error you're making, you should see a doctor to get your head removed from your ass.

Just because two balls are the same color doesn't mean that they magically become one choice. You are making the choice of "a ball" which happens to be either gold or silver. You have 3 balls to choose from. 2 of them are gold. Therefore, 2/3.

>gold ball 1 from box 1, gold ball 2 from box 1
We cannot assume that there is a meaningful difference between gold ball 1 and gold ball 2.

They've been doing it since the Civil War. They actually think licking boots is "white culture"

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phantom ganon

Stay silent. I kind of want to get away from society anyway.

But there's three balls left, two gold and one silver. You removed only one ball, user, not two.

...
How?

Can people stop talking about the gold balls? It's a trick question that defeats people based on it's carefully misleading language.

The correct answer to this, Yea Forums, was THANKS DOC

>based on it's carefully misleading language.
No that's not it

But there are two boxes.

You're right.
New riddle.
There's three boxes, one with two rubies, one with two sapphires, one with two emeralds.
You know that onyx is black, quartz is white and topaz is yellow.
You pick a random box and randomly pull out a gem. It is yellow. What color is the other gem in the same box most likely to be?

>Prisoners dilemma only exists so people who actually get caught think they are clever by using it and thusly always confess which fucks them sideways because the consequences aren't the same

>They all catch one fish
Duh

Because it's not "They all catch one fish each"

3?
or 1 if they catch the fish together

With four balls total in them, exactly one of which you remove.

The behavior of the host does matters and that is why the monty hall problem is typically written better today and specifies the behavior of the host. Click on the wikipedia link.

well you are objectively wrong with that way of thinking so i do not know what to say

How can the police still jail you anyway if both don't confess? That's some bullshit.

But there are two boxes.

It unironically is. It leads the reader to see the problem as just being between 2 boxes rather than seeing each ball as an important individual factor that needs to be taken into consideration.

most people ending up in prison don't know about the prisoners dilemma

I don't get it. What if they find definitive evidence that they're both guilty but they both remain silent?

In the original setup, the police have evidence but it's only enough for charging a smaller crime. Their confessions would give them material to push for a larger charge.

Jesus christ I fucked up.

Here's a puzzle for you braindead fucks who think it's 50%:
three sons, two brothers, two fathers, a grandfather, a grandson and a cousin go out fishing. THEY CATCH ONE FISH EACH. How many fish have been caught?

Source, faggot?

Cope Trump betrayed you and is cucking you while making sure that israel’s plans are accomplished.

alligator attacking elephant

I don't believe that study has been made.

With four balls total in them, exactly one of which you remove.
4-1=?

Having Artimenner or Jeremus

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>Giving a fucking shit about text math used for puzzles vs real life situations

5, because the odds of catching a fish are 1/2.

you still phrased it wrong. you are supposed to say "they catch one fish each. as a group, they only caught 1 fish. how is this possible?"

??????????

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That part doesn't matter though, because your decision is locked based on the box, not the balls. You already pulled a gold ball, that means you picked the box with two golds or gold and silver, a 1/2 shot.

I'm gonna confess then.
catch you on the flip side, faggot

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The group consists of more than one person, I'll give you that much.

A face covered in blood.

How many gold balls are there?

Right? It'd be 6.66 fish because it's 2/3rds chance to get a fish.

Your logic is exactly what the question is designed to make you think, which is why you are wrong.

6 / 2 * ( 1 + 2 ) =
6 / 2 * (3) =
3 * (3) =
9

Not really enough specification with the wording, but I think you're looking for 4?

How many fucking boxes are there that have gold in them?

the best thing you could do is not commit crimes

Come on anons!
You can solve this!

a cat with his back curved up but with a dog's head and the dog has a long snout

The precedence of multiplication and division is the same, therefore the expression is ambiguous. We need to introduce additional rules to make it unambiguous. For example, "operators with same precedence are calculated from left to right". In other words, we'll make them left-associative. By that rule,
6/2*(1+2) = 6/2*3 = (6 / 2) * 3 = 3 * 3 = 9.

P E M D A S
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You didn't answer me, user.
I know it's difficult to count above 2, but at least try, okay?

I honestly don't understand how that wording is still not specific enough but yes, 4.

9 but should be 1

I don't get it. Is this a gacha game puzzle?

There was a game show that worked on the principles of the prisoner's dilemma and there was an observable statistical tendency of men working together and women betraying.
deansdale.wordpress.com/2010/10/25/men-women-lying-and-golden-balls/
we live in a society

Parentheses always go first you fucking mong, which includes any functions affecting the parentheses.

There is no other gem

I'm gonna say 5 because I have a headache and my brain is only at 50% right now.

No, it's a simple puzzle with gems in boxes.

It's not a rule, it's a convention.

>I know it's difficult to count above 2
Speak for yourself, you can't even count to 2.

they are physically separate entities made of the same material. that is all the question tells you and all you need to know. you fucking moron.

How are there four people?

Monty-hall problem

Curse you, sphinx! This doesn't make a lick of sense!

But there is. The puzzle specifies that there's two gems in each box.
Here's a hint: What colors are gems?

Me too.

The answer is 2/3.

I wrote a small javascript script to check: pastebin.com/YBn3ZzQQ

You can paste it into your browser's console (F12) and it'll give you the probabilities. It simulates it 1000000 times per number it spits out.

The Grandfather is also a Father.
He has 2 Sons, they are 2 Brothers.
One of those two is the 2nd Father, and has a son(the 3rd son), who's also a grandson.

Your shitty problem doesn't mention that you'll put it back so it's therefore it isn't. Even so if you put them all back and shuffle the boxes you still have a 50% if you choose a random box

remember watching that show haha
the man/woman matchups were heart breaking sometimes. i remember one guy who was so determined to be the good guy and work with the woman who was so obviously jewing him

I meant that it's in a fourth box that was pulled out of your ass.

But then there's 4 sons? And which is the cousin?

>Parentheses always go first
Yes
>which includes any functions affecting the parentheses
I don't follow. Operator's precedence doesn't depend on the terms it, uh, operates on. For example, take "5 - 1 + (8 + 1)". By your logic it equals to "5 - 10".

Person A is the father of B and C, B is the father of D.
A is the grandfather of D, B and C are two brothers, D is the grandson of A, A and B are two father, B, C and D are three sons, D is the cousin of C and I just realized I forgot to add one uncle to the list, which is C to D.
I'm sorry.

That's not a Prisoner's dilemma at all. The whole idea of Prisoner's dilemma is that if both confess then both are MUCH worse off than if only one confesses or if both keep their mouth's shut.

But A is also a son user

hee hee hoo hoo
There's a solution, guaranteed

I guarantee you, the gem comes out of one of these three boxes.
I guarantee you, each box holds ONLY what I told you is inside them.

In the sense that a direct action on a parentheses (like multiplying it) takes place at the same time it's resolved.

UNATCO considers you no longer a son once your parents are dead.

9

I dunno about the most memorable, but Mass Effect 2's geth decision stuck with me.
Which is better, genocide, or mind control?

>silver only box is only there to distract
>pick one of the 2 boxes and take 1 ball out
>2 gold and 1 silver left.
>there is no choice to swap boxes so you're stuck with a 50/50 if it's gold or not.
>if you could swap boxes it's 66,6%

Oh my bad I missed the cousin.
I didn't pose the question, I correctly(apparently) answered 4, but I forgot about the cousin, I'll have another look.

you are fucking retarded
there would never be a reason to confess if that was the case

No, Savage.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prisoner's_dilemma

Okay, for the anons struggling with the gem puzzle, here's one final hint that will give it away, so only read it if you want to give up.
Sapphires can be yellow.

>and I just realized I forgot to add one uncle to the list, which is C to D.
>I'm sorry.
Oh fuck you you fucking retard.

yellow

shit riddle desu
the only catch is the reader assumes the color of the gems, even though they're not specified, when there could just as easily be a red ruby and a yellow ruby in the same box

I have determined that the box is the sapphire box. Because sapphires are most commonly blue, the other gem in the box is most likely blue.

blue man lives in the blue house
red man lives in the red house
who lives in the white house?

The KKK member?

garfield

white man

This image really needs to explicitly state that either you take the gold ball out and DON'T put it back in or you take the gold ball out and PUT it back in.

The orange man

Except yellow rubies and yellow emeralds don't exist.
Only sapphires, out of those three, can be yellow.

I don't know if you read my final hint but I'll let it pass. Good job, you win bragging rights.

>morals? no such thing

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>99 silver and one gold

And this is where your logic is wrong.
You're trying to use numerical probability while changing the numbers.
And the riddle isn't even about math in the first place...

it's a boston terrier

Although it would be better to be more explicit, since it doesn't say you return the ball it seems like a safe assumption to assume the ball is not returned.

genocide is the obvious answer if you're roleplaying
sentient machines are portrayed as a huge threat over and over and over and over in the game's universe
re-writing the geth is a band-aid on a bigger problem which is intrinsic to their existence

1

>time is an illusion
Only the present and the subjective experience of time. But time is as objective as space, it's the same thing.

Not even if I am a cop?

Especially then, don't want to be targeted as "that guy" amongst the closed ranks.

I didn't read it, I was too busy googling what colors gemstones can be. Also busy reminding myself how cool minerals look.

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You damn right and it better stay that way!

The problem is that it affects the outcome to the question.

If the ball is removed and not replaced then everyone going on about 50% is right.

If the ball is returned

Wait, that still doesn't work out to 2/3. If I'm doing my calculations right.

Correct
Incorrect, the bad man lives in the white house

Don't blame me, I voted for Patrick Little.

The original Prisoner's Dilemma doesn't have any mention of confessing. The two choices are betray or stay silent. The OP is an original version, which doesn't make it wrong because the term Prisoner's Dilemma can be applied liberally to any similar problem. There's no reason to be autistic and screech that it's wrong to call something a prisoner's dilemma because it doesn't have the exact wording from 1950. It just needs the same structure and principles: the lack of communication, the uncertainty of cooperation and the danger of betrayal.

Yes it changes the calculations, what I'm saying is that the normal interpretation of that statement is that it's not returned. I'm not surprised someone who thinks it's 50% would have trouble figuring that out though.

The optimal strategy for the Prisoner's Dilemma changes massively depending on the values. If the punishment for mutual betrayal is worse than the penalty for trusting a partner who betrays you, it's a lot easier to see why trust is the real proper strategy. If the penalty for being betrayed is 10 years and the penalty for mutual betrayal is 20 years, then people who betray tend to be dumb suckers who think they're getting away with something.

The point of the Prisoner's Dilemma is actually to show an obvious example of how "classical rationalism" is flawed, which most of the people replying to you missed. In actual empirical fact, people have a tendency to cooperate, and in any real game where the Dilemma is implemented, just due to the mathematics and the necessary context to make it a real game, people who betray tend to lose and people who trust tend to win. You might have similarly heard of "auctioning a dollar", where two classically rational people accrue an infinite amount of debt chasing after a single dollar because classically "rational" people are incapable of thinking more than one step ahead.

For obvious reasons, the PD is rarely discussed in actual, legitimate sciences, outside of a minor mention in entry-level Game Theory courses, and the majority of its discussion is in braindead fake majors like business or economics (which has gone downhill so, so fast from its once respectable position). In any respectable field of study, the PD would be seen in much the same way as Schrodinger's Cat - a dumb thought experiment to wow freshmen with that has LONG since been overturned by more legitimate, more rigorous, more widely-applicable, and more advanced methods.

But why would the other sapphire be yellow? it might as well be orange or blue or pink.

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what about option number 3
>I DO NOT COMPREHEND THE QUESTION
>I DO NOT RECALL
>MY MEMORY HAS BEEN ALTERED BY THE TRAUMA OF THE SITUATION
>MAYBE
>I DONT KNOW

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read the problem carefully again, it asks what color the gem is most likely to be. This implies that with the given knowledge you can't be certain what color it is.

>MAYBE
WE GOT HIM BOYS, LETS THROW HIM IN THE SLAMMER

That picture of Bambi and Thumper.

3

>I DONT KNOW
HE GOT US BOYS
LET'S SLAM HIM IN THE THROWER

thats the same option as staying silent, that is not snitching the other dude

Lmao all you actual cucks did was pull on the slingshot to rubberband the overton window even more to the left

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AH FUCK, YOUL NEVER GET ME COPPER
*SKRJBAAP BAP BLAM POW*

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But it doesn't take into account the fact that the gem have been purposefully placed in the boxes. It's a poor setup.

For PD to work, both parties have to be strangers to one another. Or at least there should be a reason for distrust between the two. Both parties picking to remain silent(the best option cooperatively) would only work if both trust each other.

its a little bunny looking over his shoulder

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Oh I just got it.

Thanks for the insult user, it got the neurons firing.

Confess is only bad if you feel bad for the other prisoner.

But this only works if you assume Blue sapphires are the most common type, which isn't true.

Hey we have been informed of a jewish man throwing a tantrum at the temple, you want to come along and rough him up for fun?

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A fag who cannot stop sucking dicks taking time off of his rigorous dick sucking schedule to be an armchair psychiatrist on Yea Forums

Excuse me sir but is that original post you made right there loss Now hold on it might sound ridiculous but bare with me here. You see there's 4 panels let's count them 1 2 3 4 panels And you know what else has 4 panels That's right loss does But i'm not done yet you see in the first panel there is 1 object positioned slightly to the left. Should I even continue I guess I will as you still don't understand. I should clarify this is a level 5 loss meme so I don't expect you to understand it. Anyways in the second panel there are 2 objects next to each other with one being slightly below the other. In the 3rd panel another 2 objects are present right next to each other. Finally, there are, yet again, 2 objects which form an L shape. Everything looks like it's adding up thereforeit HAS to be loss You need to make it less obvious next time if you want it to be more funny.

I never even finished the game, I spent five hours just looking at this screen, waiting, thinking, wishing that someone else could make the choice for me.

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Y'all niggers if you confess, you're screwing over your partner for selfish gains so you're a double nigger for double violating the categoric moral imperative. The end times will be when people act by duty and stay silent because it is their duty as ceiminals to do so

Thanks, Bertrand.

Here's another riddle:
If 5 anons can discuss 5 games in 5 minutes, how many games can 50 anons discuss in as many minutes?
Note: no proxies or phones were used.

Karma is gonna bite you in the ass some day. Honestly fuck you and people like you that think imitating soldiers is just a quick way to get cheap shit.

I'd confess immediately if my partner was a Yea Forumstard

>snitch
>released
>"mysteriously" die/disappear on the way home

How do I know you’re a chinless stuttering incel?

you would have to be an absolute retard not to cure cancer

He'd do the same because "muh maths". Admit it, utilitarians screw criminal society as a whole. Just remain silent by duty until humanity becomes moral qnd everyone wiml only get 1 year

>remain silent
>other guy confesses
Nah

a knight with a funky pompadour shaped helmet that has asymmetrical eye holes, one just a straight line and the other a tilted cross

>50 anons in the same thread
trick question, it's all porn and politics

Good answer!

Absolutely Imperial

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>If 5 anons can discuss 5 games in 5 minutes
physically impossible
can anyone here even name 5 games right now?

Woah, calm down user, these are meant to be relaxing puzzles. Keep that hardcore shit outta here.

pokemon red
lufia II
elebits
jackie chan

Never in any circumstances get within the same continent with American cops, they are more likely to shoot you than a soldier in enemy territory is.

pokemon red
pokemon blue
pokemon green
pokemon yellow

1+2=3
2*3=6
6/6=1

kek

Fuck soldiers for getting all sorts of benefits out of shooting sandniggers. There are far more dangerous jobs out there but only the special snowflake double IQs get shit handed to them for free.

It's less a confession and more ratting out the blue guy. This graphic is worded poorly.

>Hey guys do you know gems can be different colours lel
Fuck off

Imagine being angry at facts about rocks.
The only reason that riddle is bad is because he didn't account for color variation /enough/, if anything.

>You know that onyx is black, quartz is white and topaz is yellow.
But that's incorrect? This riddle is a cluster fuck.

This, we have the means of production to sustainably feed the world, our economic systems just don't really allow it, but there is no one true cure for cancer and that sort of thing is gated by our scientific knowledge.

6
one grandfather has two children (two fathers)
One of the fathers have one child, the other have 2 (2 brothers, 1 cousin and 1 grandson)

Protip
the grandfather is a father to a father

>Choosing 1 and 20 years when you have the option of 0 and 5 years

Also why is it assumed i'd commit a crime in the first place

thank you for your service

>Then just represent it with math
check the OP retard, its math and some pictures

in a team-based game like WoT (just an example, but the most fitting):
if you and your team advance, all of you can win easy.
if only you advance but your team don't, you die alone but they're still safe, even benefit from your death.
if none of you advance, all of you lose, but you still get to shoot some before dying.

Check this *smooshes you with big monty python foot*
Also check THESE

10
nothing says that any of them have to be the same person in multiple categories :)

Your desire to get fucked by dick does.

>50tards cannot understand that separate entities can exist that share the same qualities
By their retarded logic, only one person thinks 50% for the Bertrand Box problem.

It's fucking 9 you retards.
>inb4 unironic braindead retards that think multiplication goes before division or that the multiplication goes first because one of the values has a parentheses

No mathematician in the real world uses the division sign because it leads to confusion like this.

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I dont think a single leftist actually knows what the overton window is since everytime they use the term they use it wrong.

If its that easy then why dont you do it?

This isn't the door problem, idiot.

I don't get it

For the individual choosing to confess that is.

Put it this way. Lets say your inmate was your best bud and he helped you kill the dude that killed your wife or some other analogous shit. Youd take 1/1 easily.

THIS ONLY WORKS IF YOU HAVE A CHANCE TO CHANGE BOXES. YOU ARE MISUNDERSTANDING THE PROBLEM.

>discussing moral dilemmas
>everyone posts and discuss shitty elementary math problems
I don't know what I even expected from Yea Forums

From my understanding, talking to a cop will put you under their radar.

Deciding whether to pick Penny or the autistic blue-haired girl in Stardew Valley is a pretty tough choice.

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To be honest, I don't know what to think about Synths in Fallout 4. I know the game wants me to believe they have autonomy and free-will, but my real life knowledge of how computers works prevents me from seeing them as capable of suffering, let alone the fact that one could believe it's a human, shit doesn't work that way.

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then it turns out your best bud confessed and you get 20 years

No, and you're my nigga for posting it
most of the idiots replying to this are disrepecting the funyarinpa. shameful.

And if you both confess thats 5 years minimum.

This image gives very little info. Do I know the other inmate? If I dont then rat them out.

vampire diaries, but the dilemma was to kill something.

*BIMDAS

Answer is 1 unless you are a retarded goblinoid.

this is the only prisoner's dilemma in the entire thread
Yea Forums confirmed retards

i prefer LIGMA

Based

An ancient Greek soldier humping a bird.

The whole second part of the equation is a single item. It's easier to read if you view it as
__6__
2(1+2)

It's 1 because anything involving the brackets is done first in an equation.

2(1+2) is seen as a single number in maths

>[Glass him]

What's LIGMA?

I have a good one for you

>Kill your child, a whole world is saved
>Save your child, said world is destroyed

What would you do?

6/2(1+2)
>Step 1 multiply out the brackets
2(1+2) -> (2+4) -> 6
>Step 2
6/6 = 1
Easy

ur mom LIGMA BALLS last night

Ooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

we did that problem in what? 9th grade?

Well if it's like Neptune or something what's the problem?

That's easy. Kill my child. Then I be hero and can easily make more.

A cutting blow. I'll ruminate on this loss.

Kill both.

Sorry user-kun, you're not very smart.

at first glance it was a fox hunched over, but now it's some bald dude in thumbnail and can't tell enlarged, dinosaurs maybe

based and schraderpilled

Not planet, world has inhabitants and isn't necessarily a celestial body.

Imagine another earth. You kill your kid and that earth is saved, you keep your kid and all 7 billion people on that earth die.

Which NPCs I kill in Dark Souls, unironically.
Also snitches get fucking stitches, if you confess and get away scot free it means you have 20 years left to live on this Earth fag.

>6 / 2*(1+2)
>6 / 2*3
>6 / 6
>6/6
>1
judging by spaces

They won't know you did it

>elevating soldiers to anything but profession
They are people, working a job. Job that usually involves invading foreign 3rd world countries.
They aren't heroes, nor defenders. They are people doing their job and getting paid for it... While lining pockets of higher ups/government officials.

>gem puzzle
where?

Will we ever meet these aliens if they live?
Because I'll sacrifice a kid to get to fuck an alien I'm not going to lie to you.

This one always fuck up my brain. I understand the principle, but it doesn't make any sense to me.

I be hero not because of that.

÷ is a garbage symbol, and no one would use it exactly because of this, it's ambigous.

Also, lol @ anyone still trying to solve this crap

a salmon is caught by an eagle while his friend leaps to safety

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I know the game you'e talking about and Saving your kid is the morally correct answer.

They are not the cause of the other world ending and it's not your place to sacrifice them.

It's your kid man, you already fucked an alien to make it and they aren't specifically aliens. Think alternate dimension earth

And then you find him and kill him after those 20 years

fuck, wrong guy

Confess - 0 to 5 years of constant rape because you're a snitch
Silent - 1 to 20 years of at least some respect in the block

VLR - Every choice with Tenmyoji
Batman Telltale - Saving Catwoman or Harvey Dent

Remain silent and you get 1 year, confess and you get 5? What crimes does that make sense for? How are you going to prison at all if they can't prove your crimes?

>Police wired some drug dealers home.
>Found out his friend was a dealer too
>He confessed
>In trial he stayed silent. Didnt confess and said nothing but that he was scared
>Even the judge got buttblasted "b-but you confessed to the policemen!"
>Got out completly free because they didnt get approval to bug out the first durg dealers home

Or something like that. My bro works in the trial. This is just one of many shit.

What a fucking retarded ass system. Meanwhile you get prison for life for driving too fast while a pedo teacher still can do his job and just 3 years or so in switzerland

>"hey if you confess so will I, so you better fucking stay quiet you faggot"
There, puzzle solved. He's not going to confess, you're both out
>b-b-b-but you can't confess after the guy confesses according to the rules
Doesn't matter, you won't actually do it, just threaten the fucker.

>Be brain-dead retard
>Have no prospects beyond moving heavy shit in a warehouse
>Join army
>Do a few weeks of basic
>Spend most of your time sitting in your barracks
>Actual warfare is carried out by drones and pilots that BRRRRRT any conceivable threat
>Most likely way of getting injured is by your convoy driving over a mudshit's makeshift landmine
>If you actually somehow do manage to get injured everyone treats you like a saint, for something that is part of the fucking job description
>Come home, congratulations, you're now a hero for doing fucking nothing
>Receive fat state pension for doing fucking nothing
>Receive discounts everywhere for doing FUCKING NOTHING
The easiest way to tell if someone is an absolute brainlet is if they rabidly support the troops.

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the box with silver balls is just a fucking red herring
you can literally just erase that part and its still exactly the same
and since you pulled a gold one already then there are 2 possible outcomes, you either pull another gold or silver, thus 50%
you can't change boxes you don't put the ball back into the box its just 50/50 since there are 2 boxes

>Jealous brainlet complains that he didn't sign up for 4 years of easy money and a lifetime of discounts
Loving every laugh

youtube.com/watch?v=S0qjK3TWZE8

if he wins using anything but paper its a draw, if they use the same she wins, if he uses paper and wins he wins
but draw is the same as win for him
so he just has to win and not "actually" draw

Jokes on you pleb I earn close to 6 figures and didn't have to spend 8 years in a desert shit hole.

What if you did this experiment 20 times, discounting any time where you drew a silver ball first. You would be twice as likely to draw from the only gold box as you would from the gold and silver box.

You're operating under the assumption that the goal should be to minimize your sentence. You're wrong. The goal should be to avoid doing anything that makes a cop's job easier, because pigs are scum.

>Six figures
>Earns a maximum of 9999.99 a year
Great job!

Seething

Fallout 3. Sometime during the game I felt that humanity deserved to die so I went out and killed as many NPCs as possible. When it got to the end and I was about to poison the water Lyons said thank you and it made me pause for a minute before I didn't poison the water.

No, close to it. So not even 6 figures. He's actually making 999.99

Well done confirming you're a brainlet.
Have fun paying child support for Jamal and your ex-wife's son.

>>He confessed
>>In trial he stayed silent. Didnt confess and said nothing but that he was scared
>>Even the judge got buttblasted "b-but you confessed to the policemen!"
This is why we have the miranda warning and depositions. One of the lines of the miranda warning is:
>Anything you say can be used against you in court.
Doesn't matter if he stays silent, they can use what he said to the police and his deposition and the recording as evidence against him.

>>Got out completly free because they didnt get approval to bug out the first durg dealers home
That's a good thing, not a "retarded ass system" thing. We don't want the police to be able to just bug whoever the feel like without a legitimate reason to do so. This is almost certainly why he "got off". Nothing to do with recanting his confession.

Any real mathematician would read that as 1.

But you're still angry about military discounts? Did your wife leave you for a serviceman?

Any real mathematician would tell you to fuck off for using the obelus.

Yes, user. This magical system working in the mechanical wings of our universe known as 'Karma' will surely take effect.
Any day now.

I'm sure it's going to happen!

man and woman arguing

It's not even a dilemma.

Only way police can prosecute is if they have evidence, the ONLY time police will talk to you is if they NEED evidence like a confession or a lead. Always remain silent or 'no comment'.

How can you still not believe in karma after totalcasket

Yeah but I'd they had to they'd then say 1.

1/2 is the right answer. I thought about it long enough.

This is literally NOT the same as But I think I understand the ball problem and have an easy way to explain it

So you get a golden ball, one of 3 things have happened. You got ball 1 from the first box, you got ball 2 from the first box, or you got ball 1 from the second box. So since this is your starting point in 2 of those cases the next ball you get is golden once you got a 2/3 chance of the second one being golden

This is great. Such a bold plan for a petty cause.

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A girl with pigtails bending over to inspect something X-shaped on the ground

getting cancer because you told someone else to get cancer isn't very karmically balanced

Yes, that's correct

>hundreds of thousands of engineers risk their lives doing insane shit like free-climbing antennas or welding pipelines 500ft below sea level
>their labor ensures that you can enjoy all the comforts of the modern worlds
>they literally keep the electricity on
>no discount, no recognition
>some retarded faggot goes and masturbates in the desert shooting rats for 4 years
>here son have discounts literally everywhere under the sun thank you for your service
Military discounts are bullshit. So are senior citizen discounts while we're on the topic.

What about being a generally bad person?

Reveal my powerlevel and destroy the planet

thank u for your service, i myself did not have the pleasure

if having opinions about video games made you worthy of getting ass cancer then all of Yea Forums would be terminal

There are literally billions of genuinely bad people walking around cancer-free.
Your logic is retarded and so are you.

Wasn't this exact dilemma in a recent Visual Novel?

Hey, old people put the time in not having fun or enjoying their lives.

lol look at these sensitive little welfare queens
there's a US base across the border from me and they sometimes come to my town and get run out of every single fucking establishment since lol fuck the troops and fuck americans

Well let's give it another 5 years

Well if they don't have cancer they must not be as bad as all that

fpbp

The end choice for Human Revolution got me because all the options were fucking terrible. I eventually went for the suicide one because fuck all those characters.

Kill jester

It's 100% + 0% which is 50%
Since you choose the box at random and can't see into the boxes.

Jingle is our friend, she's here to help us!

Not in game but real life.
When I was in third grade art teacher was going to punish the whole class because someone didn't clean up his kit and we didn't know who is. And the best bit is if that person didn't confess the teacher will punish the whole class but if someone anyone confess he will only punish that person. He gave us 10 min and in that time the whole class gone to shit but in the end no one confess so the whole class took the punishment.

Save child, world is unspecified and cannot be Earth, because if Earth was destroyed so would my child, rendering the choice moot.

Is this praxis?

kiow 'er

dae it

I just tested it in real life and 2/3 is accurate

>all those retards saying to confess
And that is why in spite of 13=50, nigger gangs will never amount to anything while higher iq crime syndicates get away with minimum penalty. Anons can't into organised crime.

Incorrect.
The world being destroyed is an effect of saving your child.

Picking ball 1 from box A eliminates the probability of picking ball 2 from box A as the first one (and vice versa), aside from the elimination of both probabilities including box C. So you're really only left with two.
50%

MY MOTIVES ARE COMPLEX

No

>Its the trolley problem
>Except instead of 5 people, there are thousand and thousands people and the line of casualties on the rails extend farther than the horizon. Even if the trolley were to go at full speed it would still take days before the casualties stop
>There are "people" who choose the 1 girl.

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But she's my gf :^)

>Help person you i assume, like.
or
>Help a group of people you don't care about.
Go fuck yourself, my responsibility is to make myself happy, i'm not superman.

no thats not right
what I meant is that there are 3 possibilities TO BEGIN WITH

Imagine this, you only have 2 boxes, 1 gold 1 silver box and 2 gold box. you have randomly chosen one box and randomly picked a ball and got a golden one
the chance that the box you choose is the box with 2 golden balls is way bigger than that its the box with 1 gold 1 silver and you got a golden ball out of that one

The same as the monthy hall problem if you really want to simplify it use a bigger example
There are 10 boxes, 9 with 2 golden balls and 1 with 1 golden 2 silver, you chose random box pick out a ball and its golden, do you still think that its 50% that the next one you pick will be golden?

not exactly a trolley problem, trolley problem assumes you don't know the person so its just life vs life
in this case if I had to sacrifice a whole city to save my best friend I would

I only understood the whole thing earlier so lemme try to explain how I comprehended it.

The important thing is that while it makes the assumption that you just yank a gold ball out, there's still an inherent probability chance with regards to that.

Rather than what the image says, imagine instead it says, 'You keep pulling out balls UNTIL you get a gold one'. So if you pull out a Silver ball, you put it back in the box, shuffle the boxes around then try again until you pull a Golden ball.

But what are the odds of pulling out a Golden ball in that regard and what are the odds that you'll pull the Golden ball from which box?

It's really not, it's just that the probabilities are the same and that the unintuitive wrong answers are also the same. But for different reasons.

Both agree to stay silent
1 year goes by quick and everyone loves someone that doesn’t snitch

basically that
the whole thing starts before you get the first ball, the chance that you got a gold ball from a GOLD GOLD box is higher than that you got a gold ball from GOLD SILVER box

People who think it's misleading just don't understand it and they refuse to admit the problem is with them.

but you can't speak with this person
so if you are just 2 random dudes then its always better to snitch (0 or 5 years vs 1 or 20 years)
if its someone you know then yeah you 2 just stay silent because you also have this persons interests in mind

>There are 10 boxes, 9 with 2 golden balls and 1 with 1 golden 2 silver, you chose random box pick out a ball and its golden, do you still think that its 50% that the next one you pick will be golden?
I would think there will be 8/9 chance of getting a second golden ball, simply because there's 9 in all.
Just like 1/2 with only 2 boxes where there are at least 1 golden ball. The big difference between this and the game show goat is that you're not allowed to change boxes, so the nonparity of the probabilities are already waived onto the first choice of which box you picked up.

blue hair is crazy,
not yandere crazy but more like hippy crazy

Ok user think of it like this. There's two boxes, one has 50 golden balls in it and the other has 49 silver balls and one gold ball. You open a box at random and draw a golden ball. What are the chances you drew from each box and therefore what are the chances that the next ball you draw from the same box is gold?

eh, let me explain it differently
you chose 1 of 2 boxes (silver silver box is red herring) box 1 is G G and box 2 is G S, now what is the chance that the first ball you pull out is gold?
And because of that the chance that its G G box is higher than that its the G S box

50% or 1/2 would be right if the person who prepared it and knew which balls are where just pulled out a single gold ball out of any box and gave it to you, then yea its anyones guess but the chance that the box you picked AT RANDOM is G G box is higher than that its a G S box