To believe in an ideal is to be willing to betray it

>To believe in an ideal is to be willing to betray it

what the fuck is this crusty old cunt babbling on about?

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Bullshit relativism. Ignore her, maybe she'll fall down a pit, or something.

god, i wish i had the strength to just ignore the whole character. That way i might be able to play kotor 2 again but i'm a weakling.
I just get destroyed by how shitty that character is and quit playing

belief creates goals, goals foster pragmatism, pragmatism subverts belief

Obsidian wanking over it's own contrived "themes".

okay cool, stabbed her in the end anyways and didn't remember anything she said.

how much of kreia is "do as i say, not as i do" and how much of it is cope

>be kreia
>be shitty incompetant jedi master
>train some jedi
>teach them about some pseudo intellectual pretentious morally gray nonsense
>they get corrupted easily because of you
>go on genocidal rampage and start a civil
>be completely disgraced by jedi because of this
>exiled and shamed
>decide you need your revenge in the edgiest way possible
>decide you're a sith now
>find 2 of the most emotionally unstable dark side users around with powers they cant even control
>decide to teach them to be sith
>eventually become stronger than you
>they see past your hypocritical bullshit and decide to drain you of your powers and leave you, laughing at how weak you are

>you're even more angry and edgy now
>if you cant have the force then no one can
>the force needs to die!
>decide to seek out a wound in the force to enact your revenge
>the new sith also go on a genocidal rampage and kill most of the jedi
>IT WASNT MY FAULT WHEN REVAN AND MALAK DID IT BUT IT WAS TOTALLY MY PLAN THIS TIME EXCEPT I NEED TO STOP THEM
>try your best to manipulate her with your shitty psuedointellectual pretentious morally grey bullshit
>she eventually sees through your shit too
>kills you for your incompetance
>force never dies

Don't be a faggot and blindly agree with everything.

well said mate

"I do not want to kill people." is an ideal.
You confront a serial killer.
The only way to stop that person from killing others is to kill them.

Kill them and you betray your ideal directly.
Dont kill them and you betray it indirectly.
For the purposes of this thought experiment, taking a bullshit 'third option' has a 99.99^% chance of failure.

Kriea believes that 0.01% chance isnt worth it.

'I don't want to kill people' is not the same as 'I won't kill people'

If your ideal is not to kill people, why are you seeking out killers to kill?

Kreia just wanted you to think, question everything, and to make decisions without being influenced.

Imagine being an influential enough fictional character that people go out of their way years later to talk about you and how they don't like you.

KOTOR 2 fags still screech about Kenshiro 30 years later, so I guess by your logic you are obligated to admit he is immensely influential.

You'd have to be a retard to deny Kenshiro is influential even if you don't like him.

Who's Kenshiro?

Sorry but you can't have it both ways. KOTOR 2 fags have maintained for years he is insignificant like all moralfags. Pick one.

I have no idea what you're babbling about. If you want to dredge up shit from threads from years ago, perhaps reddit would be a better fit for you?

Desperate.

For what? Why would I be "desperate?" You put too much stock into internet arguments.

Desperate.

based retard

Desperate. (your turn)

Desperate.

>not turning neutral evil darkside and BTFO'ing her entire philosophy

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If you believe in something you don't seek validation but opposite views.

>too low iq to understand character

>blame character and writers

kek

I know how Yea Forums likes to circle-jerk over shit like this but her character was alright, nothing revolutionary but a nice change of pace from the normally black or white Star Wars characters.

Kreia's pretty easy to understand
>Gets BTFO by both sides
>W-well Sith and Jedi are stoopid anyway. I-I didn't even want to be a part of their groups.
Pretty well done and some people even buy into her philosophy.

>Preen around how based and high-IQ you are for btfo moralfags on Yea Forums for over 10 years
>y-you put too much stock in the internet bro

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Pretending everyone you dislike falls under one umbrella is a sign of autism. Either give context to your schizoid babbling or shut the fuck up.

If you legitimately don't know you really have no business here.

>If you don't participate in my intrathread teenage girl drama you can't talk about Kotor
Man I hate reddit.

>this pasta again

You say your wish is to be a hero of justice? How noble. But of what use is a hero if no one is in danger? If your identity is based entirely around combating evil, then what would you be if evil no longer existed? A hero needs evil to exist in this world, so they can have something to save people from. You understand now that your desire to help people is not selfless, but in fact entirely selfish. You say you want to make a world where no one has to suffer, but such a world would have no need for a hero like you. To be a hero means to constantly be surrounded by evil and human suffering, for the rest of your life.

So rejoice, boy. Your dream is closer now than it has ever been. You will soon become the hero you always desired to be.

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>you cant fuck atris
shit game

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