We can all agree that Persona 5 was pretty much a SMT game like P1/P2, right? P3 and P4 fags need not apply.
We can all agree that Persona 5 was pretty much a SMT game like P1/P2, right? P3 and P4 fags need not apply
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>Persona 5 was pretty much a SMT
That's an insult to Persona 5 and series as a whole.
no and the persona series as a whole is painfully mediocre and riddled with easily fixable issues
haha
Have you ever considered that you are the minority and things that you call issues are actually features other people like?
>people like stat allocation being random
>people actually like the dogshit pronunciation of japanese words/names like "TUH KAH MUH KEE"
>people actually like the 2 note song in mementos and the grinding sound of morgana's wheels that never fucking stops
>people actually like the following process
>find vent
>click vent
>HMM JOKER WE BETTER LOOK AROUND FIRST
>door 3 inches from vent
>its locked
>HMM JOKER THIS IS LOCKED DID YOU SEE A VENT ANYWHERE
>only now you can go in the vent
>the above happens 5x in each dungeon
>people like unlockable doors being completely pointless since you'll finish most dungeons in 1 day excluding the boss fight and being rendered further moot by safe rooms
NECK YOURSELF YOU STUPID FUCKING RESETERA TRANNY THESE ARE UNDENIABLE FLAWS THAT COULD BE FIXED IN A MATTER OF HOURS BY A COMPETENT TEAM
>dubfag trying to criticize others
Pathetic.
P3 > P5 > P5 > P2IS > P2EP > P1
i play in a different language for each playthrough. the japanese dub is unremarkable and the english dub is trash
Most of those are YOUR problems.
>people like stat allocation being random
I bet the vast majority of people don't even know that they are randomed and they assume that stats are fixed. It would also break the game if you could allocate them yourself freely, you can manipulate it anyways so go ahead and try making a fucking 99 ST persona early one. Tell me how much better the game is if you oneshot almost everything.
>people actually like the dogshit pronunciation of japanese words/names like "TUH KAH MUH KEE"
>dubfag
>people actually like the 2 note song
Are you trying to tell me that taste in music is now objective? Get the fuck out of here, again YOUR problem.
>people actually like the following process
I don't remember vents at all. Are you talking about the one at the very first palace that you use to get into the palace itself?
>people like unlockable doors being completely pointless since you'll finish most dungeons in 1 day
Where the fuck do you pull that statistic even from? You finished the dungeons in 1 day, that doesn't mean that most other people did. Safe rooms also have other purposes and are not only there to make exploring on multiple days possible.
Go suck a fucking dick, you colossal faggot.
>it would also break the game if you could allocate them yourself freely
the thing is is that you CAN but its just entering and exiting a menu repeatedly. the people that want to pour all their levels into one stat are going to do it regardless so why the fuck is it so obnoxious
>taste in music isn't subjective
mementos isn't music, it's fucking noise
>i don't remember vents at all
oh ok you didn't even play the fucking game. every dungeon has 60 fucking vents and every dungeon has a spot where you know what to do but are forced to see the stupid shitty mini tutorial on it first
>first dungeon has the kamoshida statue right before the swinging axes that's missing its eyes
>you already know you have to go find the eyes
>pulling the statue does nothing until you walk up to the axes and THEN you have to go back to the statue to see "OH I NEED EYES"
>you finished the dungeons in 1 day, that doesn't mean that most other people did
If you took more than 2 days max to finish a dungeon you are fucking brain dead
>safe rooms have other purposes
yeah like fucking fast travel which completely skips all those useless doors you unlocked
Your posts so far have all been
>my opinion is fact, I want it changed so everyone else does
You can go fuck yourself with your shitty god complex. You type like a tranny, you throw a hissy fit like a little bitch and you are probably sucking a dick right now.
>fast travel making doors pointless isn't a fact
>the kamoshida statue requiring axe interaction first isn't a fact
you wanna google what fucking fact means
>placing P1chads with P2fags or P5babies
P5 and P1 are the best games
P2 has a top narrative but the combat is SLOW
P3 and P4 are overshadowed by pretty much everything P5 does
>but the combat is SLOW
P1 has slow combat. The combat in IS is just shit
P1 chads are top tier
3>5>4, though 5 has the best core game mechanics.
Tried to play 1 multiple times but the gameplay is shit. Won't ever play 2 unless I can finish 1 some day.
Not SMT, just MegaTen. even if it did get negotiation and demons.
explain
I refuse to accept it unless you get to kill your friends.
Persona 5 is not SMT that’s for damn sure.
Persona stopped being SMT after Innocent Sin
What makes p1/2 smt but not p3-5? Technically none of them are smt, as far as gameplay goes p3-5 are way closer to smt than p1/2.
You guys like to meme kill your friends but Dadga spent the whole damn game whispering in your ear how fucking awesome it would be to be a god and if you ditch the losers you can have that power too.
Still for the vast majority of the game you need the others
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P1 is literally SMT but school
P2 is again SMT but they had to go full retard with slowing down the game
P3 is where more social fuckery starts showing up where even P2’s slowness seems like a sprint
I really like P4 so it gets a pass for just being a good game not SMT
P5 Being SMT is a meme
Outside Demon negotiation everything else is just Persona being persona not SMT
You haven't said why? You can't just say it's smt because it's smt, I've actually played them and I feel like the only people who say that are p3-5fags who don't want to play them. Like P3-5 literally have modified nocturne combat while P1-2 combat is nothing like any smt game.
persona 5 is too popular to be in my cool series full of cool games no one wants to play because of their shitty game design, messy plots, rng, and terrible art directions.
persona 5's gameplay was polished and actually looked very pretty, which is an awful thing for this series that im totally a fan of. the only okay thing about it was the story being mediocre and turning to shit at the end, but it wasnt shit enough throughout to be cool enough for me.
the interesting way of weaving character-building and gameplay is extremely good and waaaay too interesting for the series. if it was removed, maybe the game would be a 6/10, which is still bad. make the game look like a ps2 game and make the story dogshit insanity and it would be a true 3/10 classic
S E E T H I N G
You've never played an SMT nigger
No. If it was it's a bad SMT with a VN tumor stuck all over its body. Extraordinarily bad story, too.
>as far as gameplay goes p3-5 are way closer to smt than p1/2.
Have you played an SMT before? That's a ridiculous statement.
I bought Persona 5 two years ago...
And I still haven't even put the disc on the PS4, how long is that game?
Depends if you're the kind of person that rushes or wants to experience everything
when it comes to RPGs, my experience lies soley with Kingdom Hearts, Pokemon, Mass Effect 2, Dark Souls and Final Fantasy.
How does Persona compare in terms of gameplay and game length?
Persona 5 has the messiest plot of any JRPG I have ever played. I do not understand people who say that it is a strong point of the game.
He's baiting user
Have you? There is no smt game with combat like p1 or p2. P3, P4 and P5 are all modified press turn
SMT games are all classic JRPG menu combat same as P3 and 4. P1 and 2 have tactics elements, grid positioning.
Navigation, game structure and demon interaction is closer in P1-2 than in P3-4.
hell no, persona will never be the complex experience of a man saving mankind with his own hands deciding the destiny of everyone fighting demons and gods. don't try to compare your kiddy school simulator game with a real JRPG experience.
>he doesn’t like the mementos theme
how to spot a shitter
>Navigation
That's inconsistent among smt, smt 1 and 2 are first person dungeon crawlers meanwhile nocturne, iv and iva are third person (like p3-5), there is no set navigation for smt and only persona 1 is first person, persona 2 is top down.
>game structure
That's the only point because p3-5 has a unique game structure and both smt and p1/2 are structured more like generic jrpgs.
>demon interaction
That's too different to compare, it changes from game to game, like p2's teamwork based demon interaction is nothing like smt. Also demon interaction has always been less important to the game than fusion has and p1/p2(especially p2) have completely different fusion. While again P3-5 pretty much have the exact same fusion as nocturne, IV and IVA have.
Like even tonally old persona isn't like smt, youtube.com
If you rush through it, it’s a MINIMUM of 80 hours. Most people finish with 100-120. If you played Pokémon you should be fine. Your team and your enemies have elementals weaknesses. Fire is weak to ice ETC.
I agree. With navigation I was pointing towards the lack of "made" dungeons in P3-4, but your point is sound. Even then, it's ridiculous to consider P3-5 out of the SMT series and things like DDS or Raidou in, now that I think about it.
>There are fucking hipsters in here shitting on Innocent Sin's gameplay
>While praising 1's
Let's be fucking honest here.
IS/EP > P4 > P3 > P5 > P1 > Q
Did 2 fuck fusion? Yes, I'm not denying that but the duology is still the benchmark of the series.
>> Q
Someone doesn't like Etrian Odyssey!
>Persona 5 was pretty much a SMT game like P1/P2
Fuck off Shitsona fag.
>4 over anything
P4fags are always proving why they don't belong on this website.
Whoa whoa
Don’t shit on Q
Anything with a theme this good can’t be all bad
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Q is worst etrian
I played at a normal pace doing everything I felt I was able to do and I finished in 80 hours. The game has a built in time restriction. I don't see how you could extend it by 40 hours.
P4haters are always shitposting without arguments.
I'm sorry but the plot of that game was just awful and everyone became the Hiimdaisy comic version of themselves.
Having lived in a small town may have given me some bias towards it but I really loved the blend of lighthearted slice-of-life with that dark undercurrent of sobering reality beneath. 3 just tried too hard to beat you over the head with symbolism and mood so I appreciate 4's lighter touch and the IT were goofballs with a bit of depth that were really easy to love.
Horseshit
>Not pictured because digital on other 3DS or systems
I’ve so played soul hackers, Nocturne and have the orginal DS games
I loaned out my copy of Persona Q to a friend
I’m a big Atlus fag
>skipping Digital Devil Saga I & II and the Raidou games
unforgivable
Dead honesty: the Sony era is just really overrated as a whole.
I’ve played them it’s just been forever and I’m too lazy to set up a PS2 emulator
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