Can we finally admit his game was trash for reasons completely unrelated to "Haha it's SOOO edgy XD"

everyone agrees on this

The only things I've ever seen people praise are the music and the opening cutscene.

I would praise the multiple endings if it wasn't so tedious to get the true ending, and there was more substance to it
you should have been able to get it on the second and onward playthrough, regardless of what you did

the game pretends to be a more mature take on the series, which I'd also have appreciated if it was actually true
the inclusion of chaotix and the childish, unsophisticated dialogue throws all semblance of that out the window

It's a game with gameplay and design focused around going forward really fast, and killing a ton of enemies fast, with non-discriminating lock-on. And it's entirely based around stopping to collect things and discriminating between "good" and "bad" enemies to kill. Not to mention the super moves are "speed forward" and "kill everything".

You best bet it's a bad game. The mechanics and level design go against the very objectives of the game. The implementation of teleporters makes it clear they had no idea how to implement it.

Not while this existed.

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good points

LIGHTS OUT!, YOU KNOW WHAT THEY SAY THE MORE THE MERRIER!

To deal with enemies with large health bars.

LOOKS LIKE THESE BLACK CREATURES REALLY MEAN BUSINESS

>first boss is literally called Black Bull
what did they mean by this?

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youtube.com/watch?v=RzZaKvhJNiU

I SEE NO HEAR NO EVIL
BLACK WRITING ON THE WALL

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It's time to post the greatest piece of Sonic media again, isn't it

youtube.com/watch?v=ixhLsvT-ZWE

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>black hedgehog
>has a gun

I don't see the problem.

I don't know. SA2 obviously didn't have real guns outside of Shadow's edgy backstory. Heroes was pretty much the opposite of edgy and I'm sure as fuck he didn't have a gun in Sonic X (Though it did have Aliens technically). Battle was supposed to lead into this game but it didn't have anything to do with the final plot of StH.

Maybe Naka was just huffing paint fumes or something.

Draws in the kid audience that thinks that shit is cool

My little brother unironically thought this game was the sickest thing ever because Shadow said bad words and shot real bullets

THIS, even as a kid I was pissed off that the good karma move was useless because you'd miss objectives if you used it.

I liked the game
I don't care what other people think

I'VE SEEN A MILLION FACES
AND ONE BY ONE THEY FALL

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based

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I'm not gonna deny that:
>had a good soundtrack
>had some good stage settings that I wish would be revisited in a Mania game or something
>having some degree of replayability

Regardless of how much this has aged, 21:25 onwards is and always will be pure fucking Kino

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And there are plenty of reasons for it? It's worse than heroes in being glitchy, guns doesn't have an aim, making it difficult to shoot, graphics are terrible, even in some cgs, level design is unmemorable and sometimes a mess, the dub is fucking shit and the camera a joke. People here only like to pretend otherwise because "it's shadow's game", it's time for you guys to stop being this biased. Also yes, worse than heroes (that you guys like to bring down only to excuse this game more btw) in every way.

>cocking an AR

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How come the GUN Commander in that game was, you know, the GUN Commander? Wasn't he on the ARK with Maria around the time they murdered her?

He was fucking retarded and convinced that Shadow was the one who killed her.

I guess being a snitch gets you brownie points at GUN

Heroes wasn't good but it was better than this trash

How is it a bad idea? Besides the brainlet response of "DURR HES A CARTOON HEDGEDOG XD".
Its not like guns are the reason the game is bad, look at ratchet and clank. Sega even ripped off the suck cannon.

>1:41:10
how did Sonic Team get away with this

I'm starting to think the game was so unpolished precisely because they tried to emulate Sonic Adventure's formula with the multiple, CYOA storyline
They stretched themselves way too thin making the multiple endings possible, and the core gameplay suffered for it

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Fuck all of you. ShTH is an amazing platformer and unironically one of the best games ever made. You all have shit taste

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There's a fucking glitch in the video, how embarassing, this game struggles even with its core mechanics. At least you could finish heroes easily without the flaws for it being so over your face

Im not the only who thinks 06 is infinitely better than shadow right?

Which is it now, Yea Forums?

Because San Andreas had just come out and was the biggest thing since your mother. So SEGA decided to try and appeal to a more mature audience by making this game as edgy as possible.

No, that's Sonic Riders

When he walks up to the camera in the intro and whips out the gun, that's my gaming moment.

That's little if compared to the lyric of this song:
youtube.com/watch?v=d_76uz-JZDw

The only thing about StH that's above average are the SA2 remixes.

youtube.com/watch?v=VXPHre6JtMc

Reminder that each and every route, of which there are 326, is named appropriately.

info.sonicretro.org/List_of_Shadow_the_Hedgehog_Library_sequences

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Now this is true autism

Claim your title boys
>Arriving at the Ego

yeah, or zero gravity, if we're talking sidegames as well as mainline
it's a shame we've been abandoned for kart racin'

>Shadow's Second Death

>Dissapointed in Humanity

>Together with Maria...
or
>One to Succeed a God
or
>Sonic Dethroned!

I go for
>Seduced By Taste of Blood

Why do so many of these sound like legitimately kino chapter titles out of a JRPG and why are there 326 of them

p
>I Shall Be the One to Judge

>A World United by Darkness

Because sonic team had soul then. The last soulful sonic team game was sonic unleashed

BASED

the problem has less to do with him getting a gun and more with its implementation. It is stylistically retarded, but the main problem is that it makes the combat much worse.

Heroes was and it was shit too.

I'm glad I'm not the only one that thinks unleashed was legitimately good. Day gameplay was pretty fun Comfy as fuck hub levels, kino aesthetics, etc.

The werehog shit should have been replaced with Knuckles segments and reworked from the ground up and the medals blocking your progress should've been removed entirely.

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chuuni

Reminder there's that one fuck on youtube who has run all 326 routes and posted them.

>Sonic & Knuckles 3-D
would have had a much stronger reputation, I guarantee you

The gunplay is the best part of the game.

You can't be a good game if you're just a collection of previously released games.

Well liking the game is subjective, but no one can deny its soul. I mean that whole decade of sonic team was just a soul train. 1998-2008

>burning rangers
>sonic adventure
>pso
>chu chu rocket
>samba de amigo
>sonic adventure 2
>sonic mega collection
>sonic advance 1-3
>sonic pinball party
>billy hatcher and the giant egg
>sonic battle
>sonic heroes
>shadow
>puyo puyo
>feel the magic
>sonic riders
>phantasy star universe
>sonic 2006
>sonic and the secret rings
>nights journey of dreams
>sonic riders zero gravity
>sonic unleashed

You can like 1 of these games. 5 of them. You can think they all suck. But what you cant deny is the pure soul bleeding from each one of them. They dont feel cynical like pso2, sonic lost world, and sonic forces do

Sonic dethroned sounds like deviantart porn

I unironically became a Shadow fan after this game. I laugh at fedora guys and muh darkness kind of guys that own a Sephiroth blade, but I'm always picking a Neutral Evil character when I can and acting smug like Shadow as that character. I regret nothing.