Mentats

maybe you reflect on your experience and gain insight

Psyches stimulate neurogenesis

It's a ridiculously strong nootropic that burns you out after it wears off

>be stupid for 3 days
so nothing changes?

I wish modern fallout never watered down chems use, hell that one made from brahmin shit was supposed to be the most popular drug in F2 but i never used it becuase the +1 AP never mattered to me, i only used buffout for the extra stats.

Jet had a short duration, 100% addiction rate and was incurable until you went out of your way to find an antidote. So, not always worth it.

Yeah well i never discovered that becuase i never used an item that only gives +1 AP, i tough that maybe that shit was stackable and you could do a complete turn afte you waste all your AP and then open your backpack but nah.

you can have acid flashbacks but idk if that's a benifit

For me, it's fire ant meat.

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>tfw you will never speedball on psycho and med-x

Well Med-X is morphine and Psycho is based on at least one real world attempt at making drugs for soldiers, so really the only person holding you back is you

but what is the actual real world psycho?

buffout is steroids as well
only mentats lack any real world equivalent

methamphetamine

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D-IX

crystal meth for effects
cocaine for government experimentation

There's a bunch of things but none of them come remotely close to the strength of Mentats

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People obviously play these games very differently from me, because I hoard and never use any consumables
mentats was actually not that bad in FO4, because it improved perception as well, which is sort of useful if you are starting with only 2
I think the other problem is that just understanding game mechanics is far better than 'slightly better stats'

most of these sorts of things are placebo effects or simply improve focus rather than truly improving cognitive ability

the absolute best nootropic available today is healthy diet and regular exercise

>5mg of oxycodone, 5mg of cocaine, 3mg of meth
yeah, that checks out

also fucking hell that'd be scary to fight against

I always end up saving my drugs for when im stuck and need a quick boost in a pinch
like in Vault 15 where I just barely managed to scrape by

GOT 'EM!

Depends on what army/branch we are talking about. In finland there was Pervitin, but that was basically military grade meth. In russia they had that shit name of which I cant even begin to remember and it was basically mixture of many different stimulants but solders responded too differently for it to be standardised. In Poland they just got some pharmaceutical amphetamine and called it a day. Germany had speed for the air troops and Ukraine used whatever it happens to get it's hand on.

In New Vegas at least if you make a build around chem use you can have ridiculously long durations, no penalties and make the other "godlike" endgame builds look like pussies

I was having a tough time playing as a 1 INT character because fucking NO ONE wants anything to do with you. Then I realized I could take mentats to temporarily become smart enough to accept missions and everything turned around for me. Mentats really do change lives.

Home

THE MIND TAKER

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I wish these were real.

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Ritalin is probably closest, albeit the main source of the intelligence effect is that you operate at peak concentration/wakefulness

Absolutely a perception booster though

>1 on the SPECIAL scale is barely functional, the absolute bare minimum you need in that area to be able to be an autonomous individual
>1 INT pops some Mentats
>realizes for the first time just how dysfunctional they are
>understands, even though they're still pretty dumb and completely uneducated, that everything they are right now is because of the drug in their brain
>can feel themselves dying as it wears off
>1 INT wakes up with a headache and a wet face but doesn't stop to ask why

>not gecko/bighorner steak

PILLS HERE!
G R A B I N P I L L S !

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>druggies ITT
no such thing as a PED that makes you more intelligent. the closest you can get is shit that keeps you awake and alert like modafinil or amphetamines, most of which cause dependency. They all have severe adverse effects and contrainidications.

Sorry losers, you will always be low IQ. Go back to smoking weed

It's the Flowers for Algernon experience.

what about the best drug of all?
healthy active living

I hate hospitals.

cazador

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this. It's a pretty dark short story

>venom easily defeated by having some plastic tubing and seeds on your person

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yeah it's deceptive of that poster to use the singular form

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Wow, an actually funny wojak. How rare!

I just got finished masturbating to fillies again. A satisfying end for tonight. Good night bros.

mentats aint shit

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If anything worked as well as Mentats are supposed to work, every scientist on Earth would be addicted to it

Too bad they were too scared to use real drug names.

They also tested high for lead. Enjoy your fits of rage and mental degeneration.

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They're not real drugs. They are fantasy drugs. You can make comparisons to real drugs but the point is to be able to say "well no, X doesn't work like that in real life but this is Y, which works differently".

Also Med-X used to be Morphine until Australia got mad and refused to have a game with Morphine sold in their country

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jet was supposed to be meth. mentats are just ADD meds. each one has a perfectly viable and intuitive analogue with real life drugs. if it was about the fantasy then the booze wouldn't have been called beer, moonshine, scotch, etc.

thanks, i made this :)

>You can make comparisons to real drugs but the point is to be able to say "well no, X doesn't work like that in real life but this is Y, which works differently".
Jet will get you addicted the first time you use it and the addiction is permanent without a very specialized cure. Mentats have a noticeable and measurable effect on intelligence, perception and creativity, more than any modern nootropic. The fantasy is that it's the future and future drugs are the same but different. Alcohol is just alcohol because it's both grounding and something you'd expect to find in a post-apocalytpic setting.

yum

This and only this.

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Somehow I don't feel this is completely faithful to the original recipe of beer, beef, potato and jalapeño

globalist controlled testing facilities run by vampiric child predators funded by George Soros

I imagine them tasting like minty wrigleys gum gone somewhat stale.

Fuck off back to the Carpathians, Victor

can you guys imagine steve1989 eating pre-war food in the wasteland?

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Wat

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Only one correct answer:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phencyclidine

Dead setting. Dead fandom.
I'll never understand how not a single one of those C&C3 mods bore fruit, it's just fucking insane.

The freshmaker

I have the documents

>Nazi researchers found that drug-induced holocaust victims (inmates from Sachsenhausen concentration camp) could march in a circle for up to 90 kilometers per day without rest while carrying a 20 kilogram backpack.[5]
If only the nazis had fabricated an mdma/speed cocktail such as XTC and invented electronic music that would've ended the holocaust and war right then and there and we'd have world peace and everyone would be /fit/ from dancing for 18 hours straight 3 days a week.

>Not full doping

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Gay

>I wish fallout never watered down the chems
>Even though I never used them and never had a reason to use them even though I’m pretending like they used to be better, but not good enough to warrant using.

>trying to eat landmines

You can easily eat venom
Just make sure you don’t have any sores in your mouth

sores don't bother me babe

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I hate you for making this and I hate me for laughing at it.
God dammit.

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Abominable thinking machines

kek

Are mentats giv men tatas?

Computers > Ment*ts

I thought Cook-cook was a cannibal.

Aren't they just a sneaky name for amphetamine?

when will they learn

He's also a damn good cook

But the smell.

imagine....

MODS

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Mad scientist meth junky is still the best way to play New Vegas. Just screw over everyone and everything with your big brains and plasma guns.

>literally me as I wipe out everyone except the Kings so I can still get a new haircut

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Mmmmmm Men-thats

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>not getting haircuts from the Sink AutoDoc

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Thanks anons. Good thread

It is by will alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the juice of sapho that thoughts acquire speed, the lips acquire stains, the stains become a warning. It is by will alone I set my mind in motion.

>Fuck healthy diet and exercise
Fat ass or skinny bitch

Why live a healthy life?

Not him but chems were useful as shit in FO1/2. I can't count how many times my life was saved by roiding up in the middle of ambushes with really difficult enemies such as mutants, but you had to tough out the risk of addiction. They were incredibly useful power-ups that were both expensive and unwieldy to use and this made certain traits like chem reliant worth taking and overall made the experience more interesting.
This whole element is totally neutered in the modern games because there's no reason to not just drug up for *every* fight without having to worry about the debilitating side effects on account of how much less your SPECIAL stats matter and because of how easy it is to cure addiction by fast travelling to a doctor without fear of being attacked in a vulnerable state for ~100 caps.

fuck. Assange was just dragged out of the embassy

What was his problem?

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All toasters toast toast

They made his dreams incompatible with reality, as a joke.

Don't forget Mentats opening up dozens of quests that would otherwise be off-limits low-int characters.