Indivisible

I seem to remember that.
I'd explain why I remember very little about this game when I also recall being quite excited for it during its kickstarter campaign.

Dunno, how many lolis did it promise early on?

the kickstarter demo backgrounds were so bad

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You know this thread is just gonna be complaining about no white people right?

I'm still mad for his redesign.

skullgirls was great but many of the character designs in this are so off putting

Not gonna lie, the gameplay and exploration look repetitive as hell. Maybe the person playing sucked, but backtracking seems annoying with all the extra moves you have to do and the gameplay looks like Paper Mario but you mash buttons even moreso.
I dunno about this one bros, I want to be excited, but it looks incredibly mediocre

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all redesigns were bad, fuck those faggots.

What was the old one?

>they screwed over half the designs in the process of making them easier to animate
still sucks
Ren's old design was cuter and making Vasco a background character in favor of using Latigo is shit since Latigo looks way worse
>why would we use the cowboy conquistador?
>here's an old man with a shield on his hat, dumb shoes and a tiny revolver with a rapier bayonet
here

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Rip

Ah, I found her.

Nuna before

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>every thread is just complaining about designs

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Nuna after

And speaking of after, I think I'll spend my money elsewhere.

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I was worried she'd be some hag but she looks like the girl from Rhythm Heaven that gets shagged in that porn version of Remix 10 so I'm fine with it

>Vasco
I'm still mad

There's nothing much else to discuss. Every update is about character designs and they haven't released a public demo yet.

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Too bad MikeZ is such a faggot.

Still too haggy for me, especially given how much of a cutie the original was.

okay fine
let's discuss the shallow as fuck "combat" or the bland as shit soundtrack

I like this better desu

Reminder that Indivisible makes YandereDev seethe because of his grudge on his former hero and one of the Indivisible devs, MikeZ.

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>want more VP like games
>stuck with this game and the buggy as fuck Super Nep

end me

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Shantae and Annie are going to be locked until the super lategame aren't they?

This, battles take as long as fucking YIIK. Is nobody else bothered by this?

Isn't vasco still a character though

Im not saying you're wrong to hate it but why do people spend so much time in threads for games they hate?

Don't forget the gold that modern tri-ace is shitting out.

Indivisible is actually fun though.

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God that gameplay looks boring. Like they took Valkyrie Profile, simplified the RPG elements EVEN MORE, and added a block button hoping to make up for it in the combat. And instead of story, there's platforming.

>skullgirls take on action rpgs
I think you mean "a valkyrie profile rip off with skullgirls animation"

Maybe they want to express their opinions.
Ever thought of that one?

This is way better

Most likely

Is Super Nep good?
Yes, but he's a NPC now.

The battles are only long if you're bad at video games

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Maybe because they would rather the game be different so they want to vent the frustration, just a hunch.

It's the same problem as always. Journalists don't do real combos, so they don't build meter, so they don't do damage and make things take forever.

Wow that's fucking lame. Vasco has a far more interesting design than the other one.

>Don't forget the gold that modern tri-ace is shitting out.

I heard bad things about that

>Is Super Nep good?
I heard it was buggy and average

he was shoved into Latigo's backstory
they used to be bros but when money was tight Vasco shot a dude for money and the rest of his band took a hit to their reputation for it
so in the main game if Incarnations get special missions maybe Vasco will be a quick bossfight

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oh sweet these threads again :l

Holy shit this looks so fucking bad. That has got to be the most boring design in this game.

Vasco's weapon was going to have a lame moveset.

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kys shill trash game

I wish I never put money into this, even if it was just $25. It's a shitty Valkyrie Profile with only a couple of good designs, the MC not being one of them

Can I fuck that lizard thing?

Is this getting a wide retail release or only for backers/those who preordered last year?

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Should learn to see the writing on the wall. But at least it was only 25 bucks as opposed to hundreds of dollars.

Are there any good pics of Ajna's feet?

>bland as shit soundtrack
I hope not it's the only reason I don't shitpost bomb these threads, I like the guy they got to do it.
Is this your first time on Yea Forums?

Objectively worse

It will have a Switch retail release.

What did they mean by this?

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>Those sound effects
>That battle speed
Fucking Mugen Frontier does this better and that was a Valkyrie Profile clone crippled by forced evasion

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There's still multiple lolis, I don't remember a single one getting a design chance, it's way more likely you either fell for bait and believed it or got characters confused.

It means the pasta was delicious.

I hate that they're just reusing the slash sounds from Skullgirls.

That dude is playing pretty badly.

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The Kamen Rider looking dude looks cool, but the main character looks kind of bland compared to the other party members, especially with her only using a generic looking axe as her main weapon.

>2D characters on a 3D environment

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jej

I like some of the characters but I don't like a lot of the others. I hope this isn't one of those RPGs that force you to use unused party members, or that they don't share EXP and you get stuck leveling for two hours because they want you to use the gay cowboy.

They're just placeholders

You're not a casual, right?

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why has nobody brought up the voice acting? what the fuck am I hearing? is that a place holder voice...?

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Its place holder

maybe

The 2D still looks excellent, but the 3D environments don't. The overworld gameplay mechanics also look very early in development. I'll be surprised if that part of the game is any good.

obviously.

Why does it look so bad

when will we learn that you never do 2d animations, on 3d?

That's a cute Tibetan Mastiff though.

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looks like a flash cartoon

This
It always looks like shit

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What the fuck is that

when did they remake duck tales. also, another example, what is that new kickstarter castlevania like game coming out? which looks even worse than this, and the OP game

waste of a good artstyle imo. ugly 3d levels and fucking boring ass character designs with boring colors

So one of the best things about Valkyrie Profile battles was the fact that pulling off a good combo ended in massive, cinematic super moves. Does Indivisible have that? I've only seen pretty lackluster attacks so far.

>When did they remake Ducktales?
>Bloodstained looks worse than Ducktales & Indivisible
Wow. I didn't think it was possible to have your head that far up your own ass.

thatd require drawing more and theyre trying their hardest to avoid that

Yeah but most people who play the game suck

Every character has at least one special attack, you fill your special meter by pulling off combos.

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Well then what the fuck is the point? The entire reason Valkyrie Profile had the battle system that it did was so that you used strategic, well timed inputs to end with a huge fucking bang. If there's no bang, then it may as well just be straight up turn based.

>when did they remake duck tales
6 years ago
It had voice acting too, from most of the original cast

Yeah. Each character has three supers that consume one, two, or three bars. You never see them in these videos because using them requires actually doing combos.

thatll probably still be in but instead of animations youll just get a really big number

But do we have confirmation that a three bar attack looks fucking intense? If no one's ever seen them, how do we know they exist?

This is way more involved than VP and has special attacks, calm your tits.

Not everybody has three supers.

I forgot I backed this. Now I don't even care anymore.

Why even bring up a former gaiafag who made threads whining about his jew genes?
It's bad enough that there are actual people out there who look up to someone like this.

They're not big jrpg cinematics like VP. They're like fighting game supers.

lame, even fighting game supers are better than this garbage.

all of these characters aside from the brown tomboy look really lame
and the tomboy is pretty underwhelming too

This new guy's moveset is garbage too, he doesn't even fight like a fencer.

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All I know about this game is the character designs. Can anyone spoonfeed me what the story is?

I know it has specials, but I'm asking if it has awesomely intense cinematic specials, like so:

youtube.com/watch?v=Yk1YNava_us

Because again, if it doesn't, they're missing the entire point of why people wanted to build big combos.

I can smell him and his circlejerk in these threads

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I like his moveset. Having limited ammunition and being transitions swings into shots is pretty cool.

wow that voice action yooooo lmaoAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

No they don't, the focus of the game was to sucker in gullible skullgirls fans but because their CEO is gay and wanted to include all his fetishes in the game they didn't include any of the waifu or actual interesting characters or even a satisfying combat system.

There is nothing intense about risk-free 'press X for epic cutscene' stuff.

I just want to see Trigger's opening animation.

youtube.com/watch?v=yny4UwGYa60

wasn't gainax supposed to do this?

does not even look that good if I'm being honest

That kinda sucks. A VP battle system without a sweet cinematic payoff is as absurd as a DBZ fighting game without planet exploding attacks. I would've preferred a simpler battle system in that case, because why the fuck do I care about building a big combo if all I've got to show for it at the end is big numbers and a lower enemy health bar?

Actually there is, especially when you actually need to work for that opportunity. If you have no idea what you're talking about in regards to the game that Indivisible is trying to copy then why the hell are you giving your two cents?

>all that QUALITY
>that generic song

It's inspired by VP. It's not literally trying to be it.
The supers in Indivisible are just metered skills that have a variety of effects and they're not separate from the game play. You can combo into, during, and after them.
They're not just a 25 second long cutscene you get that ends with someone shouting maleficent harm because you did some big enough combos.

You're misreading the post. There's no risk in performing the move. Once you've done enough to start it up, you can just put the controller down which is very boring design.

This game is undeniably amazing. How can they have such brilliant designs contrasted by total shit in others? Just how do they do it? I know they simplified character design for animation sake, so why bother with 2D? It's all very pretty, and yet nothing is worth more than a glance.

Why exactly can't we have both then? A versatile expansion of the battle system which still leads to the cinematic finishers that we all know and love? Why does it have to be one or the other? Just because you've made the road to the finisher more complicated and more "fun" (?) doesn't mean that they need to be replaced with lackluster attacks. I know the excuse is that it would take way too long to animate, but I just want to hear someone say it and admit that it's not as wowing as VP instead of coming up with excuses.

In the backer demo, Razmi's lv3 is cool because of the lighting. Also Dhar's is alright because of his voicelines and how loud the smash is

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Obviously it's its own take on VP, but it's also obviously heavily inspired by VP. Non-linear platforming leading into an expanded copy of the VP battle system. I'm not saying that Indivisible's battle system looks bad, I'm just wondering what the point is? VP's point was to reward experienced players with a fucking sick attack. Indivisible's point is to reward experienced players with... .. faster enemy deaths?

>huge randomly stacking piles of numbers
i hate this shit

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>be good artist
>change to a vomit inducing artstyle
fucking why, such a waste

What are you talking about? Cinematic finisher the way you want it is defined by having zero interaction. You want to just watch a cool animation play out, and I'm too interested in the game part of this video game to want that. I prefer DMC to Asura's Wrath. And Lab Zero seems to be firmly planted in the reasonable game side of this argument. Not surprising since they come from the most gamey genre of all, fighting game.
You can whine about them being cheap but ffs if I had a 500 million budget I still wouldn't want Naruto Storm bullshit levels of braindead cinematic moves.

The environments still look as bad as when they released the first playable demo years ago.

HAAWAAW

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>try and make Valkyrie Profile ripoff
>It sucks
>DS RPGmaker level game has better combat

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yikes!

You're missing my entire point. Why use VP's battle system if you aren't going to offer the ONE thing people loved about it? If you don't want zero interaction, cool animations to finish off your big combo then use a different battle system. The payoff was the entire point behind it. Without the payoff, what's the point? You could reach the same conclusion with a regular turn-based battle system that would probably offer you way more strategic options, or fuck it just go straight action if you want it so bad.

Damn son.

>Can't wait for the 7/10. Too complicated reviews
>implying it's not getting a 9/10 for "it's diverse, wonderful cast"

The first like 5 didnt even change

Indivisible is trying to be a more technical and skillful display of the concept of the valkyrie profile concept and long cinematic finishes aren't supportive of that.
VP and similar games (endless frontier, namco x capcom, et cetera) are mostly about flash, have fairly low execution, and are pretty much just an extended combo video in rpg format. Indivisible isn't that and it doesn't want to be that.

Holy shit is this real? That green scarf dude looks like the "lowest budget" version of himself. That's insane.

He wants you to think the model sheet art for the animators at the bottom is what the new portraits look like

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>*have fairly low execution requirements.

that doesnt change that they simplified the designs, in some cases, completely re-did them like Vasco

>tfw you run out of budget

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>those voices

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Then they chose the wrong battle system. The only reason VP's battle system was so engaging was because you were racing against the clock to rack up those numbers for the big payoff. It doesn't matter how they expand on it, you're meant to be racing against the clock for something and in this case that "something" isn't that impressive. If they wanted action, they should've gone action. If they wanted full on strategy they should've gone turn based. They chose the worst possible battle system for what they're apparently trying to do.

oh fuck it's a project x zone auto combo bullshit?

>comparing finished concept illustrations to model sheet flats
full retard

Cute dog.
Can I play as the dog?

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Yeah but's still funny how much it baits so many people

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What loli character?

Top is promo art. Bottom are unshaded character references. You can see in every webm ITT that characters are two-tone shaded because they are.
Learn a little bit about the animation process before making some knee-jerk reddit tier post.

you mean tiger girl
the tomboy looks like shit

Tbh I find this one kind of cuter than the original. Something about the hair.

It looks like a squash

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damn. it looks like bad fan art

VP and Indivisible are only similar conceptually. The combat is extremely different once you actually get your hands on it since the only thing they lifted from it was inspiration.
You should probably check out project x zone and its sequel like the user below you mentioned if you want something more closer to VP. It's definitely a game about racking up big numbers and doing flashy attacks.

BLAESTOISE! I CHOOSE YOU!

Im convinced it just shit posting no way people can be that stupid

visuals look great.
gameplay looks kinda awful.

nah, gameplay is similar to Valkyrie Profile

most people are stupid

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Character animation looks pretty good. Backgrounds look like shit.
Gameplay looks like a bad idea all around.

Looks like that one jack o lantern pokemon

>Go from cool bandito who's seen some shit to fancy gentlemen dude who looks like he doesn't belong in any kind of combat
I feel like I just drank some expired pepsi crystal. Nevermind the "muh skin color change" the overall outfit is disgusting why that much salmon and white?

Fuck if this was an action metroivania game this would have been the perfect fucking game but instead they went if the worst possible choice for combat. Animations are great but the flow of it looks off.

It will be much simpler for them to animate him now then before but I can see why the braid and his hanging clothes looked nice but now he looks like he belongs in the red light district

at least it's not vanilla coke holy shit that stuff was vile, I'm glad it disappeared off the market in a week

I didn't much care for coke vanilla. I think out of all the special flavored ones I preferred Dr. Pepper cherry vanilla, but prefer the original.

vanilla coke is the only thing I've ever tasted that was so oversweetened it was legitimately nauseating
I'd rather chomp down on a fist full of just fucking sugar than drink that shit

Then they've failed to convey that to the general public. Everywhere, I see people comparing this to VP and wondering where the big attacks are. Maybe the supporters are in on it and they're okay with it, but everyone else is expecting this to be VP with a new coat of paint when apparently that isn't what it is at all. I guarantee you this game is going to get bombarded with negative reviews if they don't explicitly come out and say "don't expect VP, you're going to be sorely disappointed".

Unironically soulless. What happened to the 4million dollars they had?

Friend put vanilla extract in some coke when they stopped selling it that was funny. However I feel you on the handful of sugar thing, I quit sweetened drinks and went back to my favorite Brisk ice tea only to feel like I downed some hummingbird nectar.

>Friend put vanilla extract in some coke when they stopped selling it
>mfw i do that

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vanilla coke was the only bearable cocacola product. who the fuck can stand drinking cola at all

Does anyone even like the 3D backgrounds? They looks so jarring with the 2D sprites.

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The devs do because it's cheaper and easier.

Honestly the game looks nice enough to me and I dig the platforming, but the battle system looks boring as fuck. I'm sad that we live in an age where "zero input cinematics" are a bad thing, especially when developers can't find an equally awesome interactive mechanic to replace it with. I mean shit, just add a skip button instead of trying to re-invent the wheel.

this

just let the big boys make the VP "sequel"...ok champ?

Haven't you been reading the thread? Apparently this game was never supposed to be anything like VP, despite being marketed that way, and we're all assholes for expecting it to be anything like VP.

>I'm sad that we live in an age where "zero input cinematics" are a bad thing
am I on bizarro Yea Forums? you want games to play themself?
>especially when developers can't find an equally awesome interactive mechanic to replace it with
any gameplay is better/"more awesome" than a cutscene wtf am I reading? go watch an anime instead fool

where did the budget go

Animation.

Why are you doing that passive aggressive little bitch nonsense like this resetera or something? They said the game was inspired by Valkyrie Profile, which it is.
It's not somehow not inspired by VP just because it doesn't have soul crushes to keep your sub 100 IQ brain from shutting down due to michael bay explosion withdrawal.

marketing on Yea Forums

im not playing as a nigger

>those visuals
cancer

unironically pretty excited for this game
the battle system is fun, and the artstyle looks great
it's also probably the closest thing we will ever get to a BroQuest game

here's hoping it doesn't get delayed, again

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Release date fucking when?

The game looks good
Why is Yea Forums so butthurt about this?

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Brown people.

Also they haven't actually played it and don't know how technical the gameplay is.

Back to bed Russians.

>Tumblirization isn't real
>homogenization isn't real
>Calarts isn't real

it's the same
nothing's happened
there was no redesign, this looks just like skullgirls nanananana I can't hear you

Because they took out most of the panty shots in Skullgirls and now they fear this game will be sjw shit

first 5 designs are literally the same though, and phoebe just changed proportions, which makes fatfags mad.

we cooouuld post up some of the early drawings for skullgirls though, and look at how much those characters changed.

>those redesigns
It already is SJW shit.

None of these fucking things have to do with the lack of values in the art. To make the characters easier to animate, artists typically strip away complex parts of the design in order to expedite the entire process. Seeing as how many characters they're planning on putting in this game, that's completely understandable. You idiots sure know fucking little about your own hobby.

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Yea Forums's hobby (at least now) isn't playing games, it's complaining about them.
we've still got anons seriously complaining about maridia tube for goodness sake.

>Seeing as how many characters they're planning on putting in this game, that's completely understandable.
Seeing as how many characters...what?

>redesigns
Show me these
I've been out of the loop of this game for a long time
Disappointing if true

>they took out most of the panty shots in Skullgirls
They hired ZONE to animate for them after ZONE made a porn parody animation of Skullgirls.

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People have been complaining about the 3d enviroments but in this video it looks pretty fine

I'd play as wireframe Ajna for a whole run, that would be so cool.

Don't worry about it. I can assure you that this game will still sell a lot and become a hit regardless. Remember that the negative opinions about the redesigns comes from a small minority (mostly Yea Forums), when you consider any other network instead of only Yea Forums.

wish he'd stuck to this style

25 character roster. That's of course, not counting monsters, of which we know of at least 50 unique ones that are in the game.
Every character and monster needs about 150 frames a piece, some more than others.

When Valentine and cerebella lose, their panties aren't shown then either. That's why i said most. But I know, I was saying that's how Yea Forums felt.
I still have faith it's all good

>Most likely ran out of budget
>Characters are looking worst and worst with each new updates
Why

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Looks boring as shit

It's the game that initially had some really cool designs but the devs realized that they were way too detailed to actually animated so they had to dull them down

Cerebella and Filia were the only ones that showed panties when they were dead on the screen. Cerebella's dead pantyshot got moved to when she misses her special airgrab and Filia's got moved to somewhere else probably

>worst and worst

I wasn't asking how many characters there are.
>seeing as how
>many characters
what? What about the characters? What are you trying to say?

>no we can't have lolis because it's cweepy!!111
>no we can't have a white cowboy because it's wacist!!!!1
(see pic)

>no we can't have traps because it's twansphobic!!!3311

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I could have sworn when Valentine lost it showed hers. But oh, I didn't know that.

holy fuck that art style is atrocious

do yourself a favour and just play valkyrie profile

You are digging into it too much, the girl's still a loli pretty much and the boy sexualized. Also not a cowboy.

Do you often go out of your way to make up shit to get angry about?

her top falls off

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She's still a loli, but looks like shit

The characters looks fine though?

Do you often go out of your way to defend a game you won't actually play?

Why not both?

>the girl's still a loli pretty much
You're a retard.
>and the boy sexualized
Not the problem.
>Also not a cowboy.
Close enough, you know what I fucking meant.

Yeah Valentine wasn't touched. That was the issue. Every character after Filia and Bella was handled differently on knockout frames than Filia and Bella, and that detail had been bothering the artists for a while.

You haven't played it either, you insufferable faggot. What is there to complain about?

Oh boy i thought the shilling was only yesterday.

Certified lolicon here. She looks nothing like a loli in the redesign, although in her original design she was at the limit of being considered loli.

>muh expedition

Go away Yea Forums. Nobody likes you faggots.

Let's not just focus on some political shit. The chinese pirate lady with the sick dragon cannons now looks fucking awful, the Portugese? Spanish? Whatever black dude who looked huge but had a thumbtack rapier is now completely gone, I think Saint George is fucking gone, all kinds of shit is just poofed away. Fucking lost the amazing early art for sleepy tiger lady, etc. I like the artists. They absolutely are talented. But what happened? Burnout? Money drying up? You can argue censorship for a small portion but that explains so little about the rest of them.

Give me 1 (one) reason for these changes that doesn't boil down to SJW bullshit.
None of these were the designs that would have taken effort to animate if left untouched and even if they had been, such total retoolings wouldn't be necesary when some adjusting would do, look at the pirate girl. Are you going to argue that they changed those designs just for shits and giggles?

Try /ic/ and /sci/, you delusional faggot.

The game's coming pal. You're gonna need to get used to this.

Wow. Even worse. Fuck off already

>Fucking lost the amazing early art for sleepy tiger lady
the uncensored version of this one?

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I see. The loli does look a lot worse, same with the "cowboy" desu though the redesign of the girly boy isn't bad. Seriously what the hell is with those changes though? Why even?
But I swear I thought you saw her up skirt too when she fell over but I guess I just imagined it.
Oh I see. I don't know the full situation but fucking hell

Jesus, I am just so utterly uninterested in this game.

>None of these were the designs that would have taken effort to animate if left untouched
I am an animator and I won't let some fucking casual try and talk about something he has no knowledge about. The designs before hand would have been much more time consuming considering the layers of drapery, adorned accessories, long hair, ect. I'm not one for conjecture, but I'd assume that all of the above would be plenty of reasons for them to simplify the designs in order to make the entire process less painful for the artists on the team, especially since they hand draw EVERY FUCKING FRAME and is confirmed to adhere to the 60 fps standard they set in Skullgirls.

That's a lot more reasonable than you being a rage culture absorbed cunt obsessed with looking for things to get upset about.

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>None of these were the designs that would have taken effort to animate

You are objectively wrong and the only design that would be easy to animate was of the loli. Vasco had a specific situation of getting ride of some characters to mix them as one.

Why do people shitpost Indivisible into the ground

They straight up said that the pirate girl's dragon cannon and rope would be too time consuming to animate.

You have no idea what anyone from either board is like because you only visit fast boards, you underaged twat.

>Promise a certain look to the game
>completely change them with no explanation

The devs had it coming.

>Comparing Model Sheets to promotional art

Based retard

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It's Yea Forums. What do you expect? Civil discussion? No one here actually cares about video games as much as complaining about [ insert anything here ].

Nobody should ever argue homongenization of art is a good thing because it 'expedites process'. Stop pretending you know anything about the business or art for that matter, pretender.

You've got a pretty loose definition of promise. Shit changes during development. Characters get cut and changed. Scope has to be dialed back. Shit happens. You either understand that or only have yourself to blame when you're surprised.

If youre gonna cry about time consumption and effort, then they shouldve promised stuff to begin with, youre totally going on their side without realizing it was them who put themselves with such designs, they spammed all that crap for money since they failed the first time, now they go the "easy route" and expect everyone to just accept it.

vanilla coke has been around like 30 years you fucking moron

We already knew this scam would turn out like this the moment they decided to animate it. The only ones that like it never actually played VP. So it's not surprising when you brought up the super special attacks and they didn't know what you were talking about

cool z-fighting
goodjob mike

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Animations look pretty good. Is the VA placeholder? It seems to be just one person doing every character.

there seems to be a loli right in the gameplay footage there

and changing things for the worse is the recipe for disappointment

Not here, thank fucking God people seem to have better taste than in your godforsaken shithole.

Nice blues to accent the earthy colors
No more blues. Shit sucks

It's not even homogenization, you blind dilettante. The only thing you're focusing on is the lack of shadows and highlights on the base colors of the models which is OBVIOUSLY a god damn reference sheet for animator use on the team, but taken out of context for some retard's inane ramblings on this image board.
I can't even believe someone had the audacity to compare these redesigns to Tumblr and the stereotypically generic Cal Arts' noodle designs.

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This isn't design simplification you absolute buffoon. The pirate girl getting a diferent design for her cannon for the purposes of symmetry is design simplification. Making a white blonde evil-looking cowboy into black kindly grandpa cowboy is not design simplification.

Designs being made simpler for ease of animation isn't even the problem here, but overhauling designs for pretty transparent SJW reasons.

>You are objectively wrong
Get fucked, Vasco's only problem is the ammo belt. The tiger witch girl has a much more complicated design than he does.
>Vasco had a specific situation of
We're talking about character designs here, boy.

I brought her up as an example of legit design simplification. Please learn how to read if you are to continue participating in this conversation.

Based
You tell him, no appreciates the craft, these days

>458110496
>CONCEPT art is a promise

Looks alright. Baoxhai and Latigo looked way better, yeah but Nina, Razmi, Kushu and Kampan still exist so who cares?

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>replying to yourself

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Duck off slav

>This isn't design simplification you absolute buffoon.
Except for the fact that it is? They were quite obviously simplified for a reason.

>overhauling designs for pretty transparent SJW reasons
Do you have a single source to even back this up?

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what the fuck happened to the art style, is this just a bad screenshot?
I remembered it looked really nice in one of the first screenshots, way more similar to SG

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>turning a loli into a non-loli is design simplification
>turning an evil cowboy into a grandpa is design simplification
>turning a trap into someone clearly masculine is design simplification

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>first screenshots
I mean first demos. Not some dumb proof of concept screenshots
I get there are a lot more characters this time around and you can't put as much effort into them all like SG but the drop in overall quality is still drastic

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The official reason a Vasco got for his change into Latigo was that they didn’t feel his whole Conquistador Cowboy look was very coherent with everything else. Alex Ahad still wanted to put a cowboy in the game, though, so the compromise created Latigo.

To say that the reason this happened was transparently SJW is a bit of a reach. Of course, there was no reason not to design another white character, but there was no reason not to design a black one, either. Personally, if I were to put a black character in the game, I’d put in an expy of Yasuke, and I certainly wouldn’t give him a dumb fucking gunsword because I hate gunswords. But that’s just me, Lab Zero can do what they want.

It literally looks like the prototype. go google a screenshot.

This looks like garbage, literal garbage

That's hot and I need to see it.
Thing is, I think I remember the game's early demo looking much better than the latter demos they've shown. I could very well be wrong, but i'm pretty sure that the tiger lady, the MC, Bow Nose and Turban all looked much better in that first demo.

The 3d environments actually look decent here compared to Boodstained's bizarre 3d art style.

Where in the entire fucking thread did I say that I wanted an entire game that plays itself? I said I wanted cinematic finishing attacks, which is nowhere near as absurd as your exaggeration. Jesus Christ, this is what's wrong with Yea Forums. Morons can't come up with a good defense so they lie about what was argued initially and defend that instead. Go fuck yourself, seriously, you're what's wrong with gaming.

>Implying

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>Stripped of his bandoliers, flayed sleeves, and

You /pol/ faggots throw around SJW around just as much as the retarded libtards that call everything right leaning nazis

>Vasco being replaced by Latigo was for SJW reasons
First, why would they change the name?

It looks like the real reason is because they needed to somehow "keep" the other cut concept characters in the game so they merged them.

Well then I hope you people who are too smaht for cinematic finishers are going to continue sucking the developers' cocks, because the game's going to fucking bomb with how boring the combat looks right now.

Helo roma

Yea Forums's average IQ is two digits

all of the prototype characters look exactly the same. the animations in the current builds are pulled right from there.

Are you blind? Old Nuna merged into Honey & Ginseng

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No, they look the same. I don’t know why you’d think that

>Get fucked, Vasco's only problem is the ammo belt. The tiger witch girl has a much more complicated design than he does.

Also ammo in the hat and his sleeves. And in their way of fixing him, they decided to scrap the entire character and create a new to serve two that were getting scrapped. It looks like shit? Too bad. But It isn't a case of blackwashing, as it's a completely new and different character.

>The tiger witch girl has a much more complicated design than he does.

Her patterns aren't complicated as the smaller details for him. Saying this as an artist myself.

I don't think you realize how many people are on this board.

post your address, wimp, so I can come to your house and be killed by you in a very epic and uninvolved fashion as you throw me in the air and slice me with katana's for 20 seconds straight like it's a Marvel 3 combo video on auto pilot. see what happens!

I don't think you understand what an average is

>Stripped of his bandoliers, flayed sleeves, and utility belt for a flatter design with less visual clutter
>Not a simplification
>Nuna losing her cloak, layered poncho, and weightless feather in exchange for a simple dress sihlouette
>Not a simplification
>Trap losing his transparent sleeveless shirt underneath loosely draped clothing and the flowing scarf and hair
>Not a simplification

You are a bonafide retard

Here's an easy defense: How in all the fucks of the world would cinematic finishing attacks improve the game in anyway? It's a metroidvania AND a active time rpg so pointless time wasting would completely fuck with the flow of the game.

Hahah, shit. Look at this guy who's too fucking cool to just sit back and watch a badass attack animation. Either he's controlling every fucking second of every attack or the game's shit. What a fucking hero.

I'm starting to think you're that same VP purist guy who's been whining about the game for the last three years, and couldn't block in the Prototype.

Didn't they only change him into a separate character when there was backlash though
granted, not because blackwashing or stupid shit like that, but because people really liked the original design

Damn bro, that's a tough one. How would it work? Huh. I mean, it's not like an extremely high rated game that's loved by millions of fans made it work two decades ago. Nope, never happened.

>Yea Forums's average IQ is two digits
wait a minute
say that again, how many digits?

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It's not a gunsword, it's a bayonette

I'm starting to think you're running out of ideas on how to defend your game's boring combat.

what can I say? i love pressing the buttons

VP's finishing strikes got old FAST especially when you were doing four of them each turn.

From where I'm, standing Indivisible seems to lack focus, or perhaps cohesion, in that its trying to be a metroid-vania while juggling its more in-depth 'VP combat but with some fighting game embellishments' thing. In practice, I don't feel that the two parts really gel into a whole, as things are now. The jarring ass way combat starts kinda bugs me, for instance. Like, I get that they are going for a seamless thing that allowed for preemptive attacks, but god does there need to be a transition of sorts. Off the top of my head, they could maybe do a big time stop/slow down with some effects while whats-her-face does a "TO MY SIDE MY NOBLE EINHERJAR," then the party pops outta her ass and time and the effects resume and the enemy is still in its stun state. The only problem then would be when the enemy gets your ass first, but if that's they case, then they could probably just do a similar slowdown and have the goons get launched out of he by the attack or something. Like, entering and leaving fights could use a lot more punch than they currently have.

To be fair, Latigo was originally going to be named Vasco, but the devs saw people didn't care for the change/didn't seem close enough to the original design to warrant carrying the name, so they met people halfway and changed the name and apparently the original Vasco is still going to be around, but as an NPC.

>Either he's controlling every fucking second of every attack or the game's shit.
>he doesn't want full control of his moves and attacks in a video game
go play a Sony exclusive or something then

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And you would have a point if it was just that. No matter how much you want to pretend otherwise, it's not. Changing the pirate girl's cannon was simplification. If they had made her black and a bakery store owner, that wouldn't be simplification.

>The official reason
More like the lie.
The "reason" makes no sense because the game themes itself around diversity and the difference of cultures around the world and all of that other nonsense. Having a conquistador cowboy would have fit right in.
For SJWs, that sort of thing doesn't apply to anyone who's white.

>but he's supposed to be a new character!
This new. No, that was Vasco's new design. People rightfully got on their case for their bullshit and they only made this design a separate entity because they still needed to keep up a veneer that they gave a shit.

So allow people to skip them, then everyone's happy. Oh wait, we don't want that do we? Might as well get rid of them altogether.

Hey bro you drop something

Who here was Chad enough to clearested the kickstarter demo?

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Gee whiz, didn't realize that Indivisible is a carbon copy of Valkyrie Profile and you could easily just copy paste mechanics from one to the other without thinking of how they could possibly mesh together. Oh, wait? They aren't? No one would want to fucking watch the cast jump around reenacting a final fantasy summon and then be expected to pick up their combo afterward or jump straight back into the metroidvania and be expected to react immediately?

see you maximum clown

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That guy's gameplay was straight ass. You better pretend you're not him.

>As the sun sets, a mysterious man transforms!
>Donning golden armor, he is that ally of justice who will not condone evil!
>The people shout his name...

NAGA
RAIIIDAAAAAAAAA

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>didn't realize that Indivisible is a carbon copy of Valkyrie Profile
how

You will never manually be able to do the insane shit that only a cinematic attack can do. You morons are literally choosing not to watch something cool because you're butthurt that you can't control it, despite the fact that to get to the point where the cinematic attack is available you have to first do a big combo manually. You could not be a jackass and let everyone be happy, but nope, it's all or nothing.

There doesn't need to be a transition at all, especially considering they're designing enemies that break combat and force platforming challenges on the player before they're vulnerable again. They know what they're making better than you do.

See it for fucking what? More uninformed opinions about character design, animation, and the process of development or tinfoil rage inducing fairy tales about bullshit that has no proof of being remotely true?

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Because I'm not a retard and I can understand concepts at more than the absolute surface level.

lots of reddit spacing in this thread, hmmmm....
>Game is inspired by VP
>that means it has to be exactly the same as VP in every single way
that's not it works

VP didn't make it work. What people loved about VP was the narrative and the presentation, not the fucking combat which got old really fast.

No, a statement that destroys your "b-but it's just simplification i swear!!!!!!!!!" argument.

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I'm not a weebfag aka pedofag but this looks way worse. The design is too generic with the pure black eyes and lack of the blue bandana, maybe even the blue wristbands too. Also her hair "knot" is too high on her head, could maybe put it a bit more on the back or side of the head or change the type of "knot" a bit. Looks like a soulless clone of a pokemon character like someone else said.

God I want to eat her ass.

>More like the lie
>I know what the devs said, I’m choosing not to believe them to be angry

Ok

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Hah, yeah not like Bayonetta (another highly rated game) gives you the opportunity to do cuhrazy cinematic finishers that the player would never be able to control themselves, despite giving the player full control up until then. But you're right, that's completely different and if we can't find a way to let the players do absolutely insane shit then we should just not include insane shit at all. I hope Bayonetta 3 removes the finishing moves completely.

I'm curious, you shitposting faggot. What exactly, in that post, refutes my statement about the simplification of the designs despite the art having noticeably less clutter on the newer art?

MOMMYYYY

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>Bayonetta finishers
>Good
Bayonetta finishers are garbage button mashing nonsense that actively hurt the flow of the game

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fuck of furry

>oh shit, his explanation for why the dev's reasons don't add up is actually solid
>"h-haha you're just trying to be mad!!!"

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>I didn't like VP's combat so no one did.
How's the view from up there?

No I don't want transitions. That would actually be whack for the pacing. Currently i can dash into a fight, kick a dude's ass, and dash out. Feels good.

I think maybe some of you guys are just used to things working a certain way, but I'm thankful there's a game that finally handles the concept in this manner.

>More like the lie.
lmao.

Just make it a girl goddamn or design him like shiek where it's more ambiguous

Your entire argument, from the start, has been that the radical character designs changes were born from a desire to simplify the art to make it easier to animate, like what happened to pirate girl and her cannons.
You still have to explain how turning a white cowboy into a black grandpa is somehow simplifying the design, and not flat out drawing someone completely different.

hating character designs and trying to defend them is one thing but lets all take a moment to be glad none of us are the unironic faggot who wants all games to have constant press X to awesome moments

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You're seriously blind if you can't see that Antoine merged with Vasco to make Latigo. Antoine was a fancy pants with a rapier.

There's also Kaldi characteristics with the closed eyes

This is your last you, you silly tinfoil hatter

Spend it wisely! You might not get any more replies after this

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VP's combat was a mess of half baked ideas that didn't work together at all. Some designer evidently had a lot of fun making the combo system, and it works, but the rest of the mechanics don't support it and frankly make it obsolete. You get the same performance by mashing all your buttons, and it's all pointless because angel curios and auto union plume make sure you never die.

the funny thing is that there's probably going to be cinematic supers in this game still but we haven't seen them yet because well the game isn't finished or out

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I can't believe I live in a time where people are too cool for finishing moves. You're either really impatient, which is a bad trait, or you think you're being cool by hating on stuff people like, which is another bad trait. Either way you're a shitty person.

>Looks like a soulless clone of a pokemon character
That's how I felt about the old design honestly.

She’s here

Just remember that the pelt stays on

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You're most kind, but I choose to return the (You) to you, you silly buttblasted shill.

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I don't have to explain shit because I didn't say anything about his fucking skin tone from the start. I said the design in general was simplified. I couldn't give a fraction of a fuck about your crusade for whitewashing, cultural diversity, or whatever it is that the other side is doing to hurt your baby bitch feelings. Literally EVERYTHING else I said about the cowboy's design being stripped or having less detail is paramount to simplification of the design. And if that still doesn't appease the nitpicking jackass that I know you are, then there's the other character redesigns I mentioned who don't have different skin tones.

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Antoine actually got merged with George

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Stop getting offended when people have different opinions than you do on the internet, retard.
Finishers in action games of any sort are fucking shit.

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>The design is too generic
I was going to say that about her old design, literally indian tribe girl #23235345

My biggest fear for the game is the level design, these long empty corridors with literally no obstacles or interactivity are really not doing anything for me

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>I don't have to explain shit because I didn't say anything about his fucking skin tone from the start.
Sorry about your memory loss issues.

And yet the developers chose it as the base for their battle system. Sure they've improved it, but you're honestly going to say with a straight face that no one liked the cinematic finishers? That they couldn't have been included, but made skippable so everyone's happy? The only option was to remove them altogether? No, they were removed because it would've been too much work to make huge finishers, and if they'd been a part of the game from the get go (again, skippable) you guys wouldn't be saying shit. You're defending it because you're mad that people don't like a game you support and that's all.

The team liked this image so much they made it her canon body type
I mean, she never takes off her clothes in game. But cannonically, this is what’s under it

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I'm just being honest, user. You're the one getting involved and calling me a retard because I don't share the same opinion as you.

I really dislike Vasco's new design but this is getting ridiculous at this point. I have been warning you guys all the time about how anti-sjws are pretty much sjws in behavior

I don't care either way about cinematic finishers in the abstract, but the way they were implemented in valkyrie profile was honestly terrible and made the combat a complete drag. If they chose to implement some, I hope they do a better job.

It's both. Antoine lost his rapier to Latigo.

I really liked SG and it's artstyle and this new game really isn't doing it for me. It's a shame because I'm a lot more into the genre it's trying to be than fighting games.
I'd say hopefully it does well and we'd get a SG2 eventually out of it, but given this company's production cycle it'd probably be 2030 by then and I'd probably have killed myself by then

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Hey, quick question

Naga Rider

yes or no

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He's making up fictional arguments with himself and using it against me to support his own dumbass falsehoods. It's exhausting.

I called you a retard for getting upset someone has a different opinion than you and thinking they're a shitty person because of it, not because your original opinion on finishers.
Try to keep up sped.

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should've been a girl so it could have been Dick Rider

People are losing sight as to why the character designs and overall visual style irks people. Also this idea of homogenizing doesn't seem to work when the actual animation of the game now is so low effort and so undynamic versus what they originally showed off. I would be pretty peeved if I actually funded the project on the premise they showed off originally and it ended up looking this show and bad.

Parts of Old Antoine's personality also seemed to be given to Latigo, while New Antoine looks more cocky and less proper. Maybe that was going be another character's personality at first.

>run out of arguments
>start replying to yourself talking about "that meanie" to downplay how owned you got
Every time. I'm so fucking good at this, holy shit.

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Hadn't heard about that. They make a post about that somewhere or did they mention it in a video? I'd like to hear how that would work.
Despite that, I still feel that it could use at least a little visual embellishment.

>I think maybe some of you guys are just used to things working a certain way
You may be right. I don't know, I guess I'd need to really sit down with a more current build to see how I feel about it.

Best design by a country mile. Could be absolutely fucking useless as a party member and I'd still use him.

It's not unreasonable for people to have assumed it'd be another SG based off their previous work and the original shit they showed off for the game
they really should have been more upfront with how they were going to handle designs and shit.

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>trying to necro your own autistic argument
piss off

Yes.
youtu.be/G1oTRdonZTg

>Hadn't heard about that. They make a post about that somewhere or did they mention it in a video? I'd like to hear how that would work.
youtube.com/watch?v=PwM2MxVfzJw

So you decided to get "upset" that I got "upset" and call me a retard? Good to know we're one in the same.

It's kind of cute how some people here act like the game isn't going to be a big success in its debut and will only piss off this place more

Okay, okay. But...

Yan.

Yes? No? Maybe?

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well at least no one here is dumb enough to fall for that kickstarter crap

I knew you were coming this reply because you are the paranoid one so

>versus what they originally showed off
It's literally the same dude. Most enemies and monsters even have more animations now. Characters in the prototype didn't have super startup frames, backdashes, weakened animations, and some of their knockdown frames that they have in current builds. They have objectively more stuff compared to what was originally shown off.

I really don't know what version of the prototype you guys are looking at to make up this argument.

The fucking madman, Alex just straight up put a Kamen Rider into the game

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take those tights off first

It'll be a success for the first week, then people will realize that the game (especially the combat) barely changes from the first hour onward and the negative reviews will start trickling in. A month later it'll be very positive on Steam. A year later, free with Humble Monthly. Tons of lewd fanart, but that's pretty much it. It'll be forgotten in two years.

>I see people comparing this to VP and wondering where the big attacks are

don't think I've seen a single instance of this

The speed is much slower and the characters look so undynamic with their poses and attack versus what they originally showed off. Maybe it works better mechanically but it doesn't look as eye popping as originally intended. Definitely after their great work on Skullgirls

Look at him
Look at this man

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tfw manlet so she'll probably still be too high to slob on my knob with those DSL when she's on her knees

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Eat shit

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People said the same shit about skullgirls and yet it's one of the most resilient fighting games of the past generation.

You haven't seen a single instance of anyone comparing this to VP and questioning the combat? Not one instance? Then you've obviously been browsing the internet with your eyes closed.

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this game struggled pretty hard to hit it's funding goals in a timely manner, and there hasn't been much interest in it online at all since the indigogo campaign.
Coupled with the fact that it's a fucking VP inspired game which will turn normalfags the hell away from it makes things look bleak.
From the original Indigogo materials and reveal trailer the game looked WAAAAAY more similar to SG in terms of art style. Differently different from how things are now.

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That won't happen and you know it very well. look at how Yea Forums is the only one to point that out.

>and there hasn't been much interest in it online at all since the indigogo campaign.
That's actually pretty common with games in development desu

also tethering the two main points of this post together, the prerelease materials for this game on youtube and stuff have pitiful amounts of views.

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Dude, Skullgirls is dead as a doorknob now as far as popular fighting games go. 2nd Encore was its last hurrah. It looks and plays great don't get me wrong, but its five minutes of fame are over, not to mention that it's an absolute deathtrap for newcomers who want to get into the competitive scene. Also, how can you even compare the two? They're completely different games. Just because they share the developer doesn't mean anything for how well it's going to be received.

what is this gameplay?
do you hit button to send that character out?
if it is what i'm thinking then this game is mobile tier

The tights only make it better

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because Yea Forums is literally the only place still talking about this game

Honestly Kamen Rider doesn't deserve to be associated with this steaming pile of a game.

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rude

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Yeah, because Yea Forums is the only one talking about the game. It's one of those titles that once it's released people are gonna be like "Oh shit, that game!" and then they're going to play through most of it, get bored, maybe rush through the last few areas just to finish it and then never touch it again. It's fine if you don't believe me and I'd love for this game to be fantastic, but it's just not going to be.

>90% of SG's recognition comes from it's artstyle
>Indivisible fucked the artstyle up and made it look infinitely less appealing
you do the math
What is that, an Eliza for ants?

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It doesn't mean that the views are negative overall out there, that is what I mean, plenty of games got development hell and once they got out, they got attention back.

You have 4 characters.
Each character is assigned to a button
You attack with each character by doing inputs+their button
You also block and break throws for that specific character by pressing/holding their button during defense phases.

I've played these demos quite a lot dude. Outside of slight pauses added in and out of battle to show XP HUD, it's not slower. The character animations are handled the same as they've always been handled since the first build. Battle speed is faster too, turns happen much faster, characters move to attack point faster, and Ajna can move faster through the map thanks to having an actual dash now.

I never looked to Skullgirls as my point of comparison. I used the Prototype as my point of reference. Skullgirls is a fighting game where every character took 3 months to animate. I wasn't expecting that here.

people were annoyed by the indiegogo campaign and then groupthink took over from there

>Game that got shilled to hell and back like no other crowdfunding game
>Every major internet artist and indie company trying to push it
>Still barely, just BARELY managed to get enough money to lift off
>Several designs have been downgraded since the campaign too

I mean, I've seen crazier shit happen, but I wouldn't put money on it.

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user it's the exact same art style

The art isn't that different at all.

>Game that got shilled to hell and back like no other crowdfunding game

Holy shit, more than Hollow knight?

You cannot be anymore wrong. Skullgirls is the only fighting game I'm good at and that's thanks to its piss easy tutorial. It os more accessible than literally any other fighter put there. Any easier and it'd be smash levels.
If you learn one chain and can pull it off then you might actually beat a veteran your first try. The trick is to exploit an opening so they dont punish you with their own endless chains.

Skullgirls was an utter fucking blunder to the post they had to do a indiegogo POST RELEASE for DLC and shit.
Get the fuck out of here you moron.
The only reason skullgirls had a fanbase to begin with was the waifus/art.

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Skullgirls stayed alive for close to 6 years, that's way more than most fighting games of the past generation can pretend to. And if you're the kind of mouthbreather that think a game is dead because it's not a main game at evo you can save us both some time and fuck right off before you make the mistake of replying to me.

God, I miss Ahad's artstyle

I didn't even know Hollow Knight got crowdfunded, so definitely.

Skullgirls' sales wildly surpassed expectations. You have no idea what you're talking about.

>wojak
Opinion discarded

I hate how this game fucking looks, tons of the characters clash against each other and the setting and just look terrible when put together
Look at the nigga who keeps spamming that shitty discount Kamen Rider and compare it to the game's MC, looks like shit
This game got shilled fucking HARD here when it's Indigogo was going and it brought a lot of animosity to it
I imagine a lot of the hate for the redesigns and shit also comes from a lover's scorned situation from people who got suckered into donating.

It's still there, what are you talking about

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Legs

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Still posting this dumbass take, while shilling a poorly reviewed Nep game.

>tons of the characters clash against each other
Isn't the theme of the game diversity or something

I would play insivisible over any neptunia game anytime.

Actually user, YOU don't know what you're talking about.
I was with skullgirls since day one, I probably single handily supported it more than any other individual that isn't actually working on the game.

I even got this offer because of how much money I threw their way.

Skullgirls is a dead game, and when it was alive, it wasn't alive because of the gameplay but because of the visuals/characters, go on the archive to old school /sgg/ and see how little anyone actually played or talked about gameplay.

Lab Zero is a fucking joke, there's a good fucking reason they had so much trouble funding Indivisible.

SG broken even, not a smash indie hit like people are claiming her originally like this faggot but still did well enough
The crowdfunding for DLC characters happened because Lab Zero got fucked hardcore by their original publisher and they couldn't finish Squiggly, who was already in development, because of it
Waifufags went to work and made the game a lot more popular with all kinds of art and shit during it, making sure that the game got more popular, Squiggly got her funding, and the Indigogo smashed through it's additional goals
Total opposite of Indivisible's Indiegogo when you really step back and look at it, shit chugged at a slow pace and took forever to hit it's minimum funding.

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This is first first time I've seen the gameplay, there's people actually interested in this snoozefest?
I thought it was a fighting game this whole time

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it wasn't really shilled here. You fags were celebrating too early

and I forgot the picture

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To be fair, the game was just asking for so much.

So this is guaranteed a flop game right? I can't imagine it'll appeal to anyone but a niche audience

jesus christ you really typed all this pointless shit
get a life

Seethe more, shill

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> I can't imagine it'll appeal to anyone but a niche audience
Why you think that?

Nice argument.

Yea Forums got pissy because cowboy got changed and the pirate has two cannons instead of one.
Dont give me any of that "shilled" shit when twitter, Smash Bros, and eceleb of the week gets shilled here with no remorse.
There is no excuse. Shilling is allowed here because you and your braindead cronies allow it to happen. But because Mike has a different political view it deserves bashing when quite frankly, the game has enough issues as it is. If you're gonna complain, then complain about something that actually matters like the subpar valkyria gameplay and the tacked on metroidvania.

>art book was a fucking bidding war
excuse me, what

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Okay yeah, that's new to me. Interesting.
Still, it may just be due to it being unfinished, but certain bits feel a bit flaccid. Like the impact of the spider falling on your ass at the beginning, and maybe catching it with an attack when it charges you after the poison dodge phase. They already got a bunch of hitstop there on these, but I think it could use something to make those big moments pop a bit more, but I guess that could just be me.

the only one seething here is you dude

>Skullgirls is a dead game

Every time with this bullshit on literally every fucking fighting game, I swear to god

>it's okay that this game got shilled because a lot of games get shilled!
What a retard.

By what metric is it alive?

I like how LabZero developed the best fightan netcode to end up not using it on their next game

Every footage we've seen so far is missing a lot of polish, but there's no real point complaining about it considering we don't know how much of that is actually intended to be final.

>If Camilla was designed by trannys

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I guess he was saying that people here is a bunch of hypocrites.

Fuck off newfag, Yea Forums was against indivisible from the word go on the Indigogo because of how hard it was fucking pushed here. The redesigns were just another thing for people to latch onto.

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People play it.

you're just another waifufag who had money. You probably didn't even finish the skullgirls tutorial

People are still playing the game? I can hop on the game and find a match, if I feel so inclined. I did that just earlier today, even. I stopped because I've been playing a lot of guilty gear recently so I'm still in GG mode while trying to play Skullgirls, so I got stomped, but the point is the game is still alive.

Its okay because you let it happen. You wanna stop "shill" threads, then you better get rid of em all faggot.

Every indivisible thread was nothing but your special kind of shitposter bombing the thread about your complaints about them removing a pantyshot in one frame of a game you don't fucking play
It was never about Indivisible, you guys are just shitposters and you'll latch on to any excuse.

>there's a small as fuck scene that means it's totally alive
SG's scene isn't 100% dead but it sure as fuck isn't healthy

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Holy shit I can not wait to play this nigga

>then complain about something that actually matters like the subpar valkyria gameplay and the tacked on metroidvania.
Thank you.

>Yea Forums was
Yea Forums isn't and will never be your personal army. Cry me a river.

>Goalpost moving

Thank you for your consession

>Tranny Camilla
disgusting

you esport kiddies 09ers really need to shut the fuck up and go play street fighter since community size is all you seem to care about

How does Ren make you feel?

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That doesn't mean it's not dead you moron.

based

Yes, it quite literally does.

This might be unpopular opinion but I like his redesign way better. Actually the only character that looked better in redesign.

What is your definition of dead then?

Remember when they had to do like 3 backup crowdfunding campaigns and shill on Yea Forums 24/7 because they didn't reach their goal?

>implying Yea Forums doesn't still have simi frequent SG threads all the fucking time
fuck off newfag

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No it quite literally doesnt.

>go on the archive to old school /sgg/ and see how little anyone actually played or talked about gameplay

I was there, that's when people actually did talk about gameplay and organized online tournaments

How much their campaign asked for? I can understand if it was a high amount.

there could be only 2 people just always playing SG against each other and no one else and niggas itt. would claim it was still alive

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Remember when that actually worked? Yeah I blame you for this mess. You let this game happen. What do you have to say for yourself?

How about you man up and define what you mean by "dead" so I can properly call you a retard for setting such a goal in the first place.

Could please stop making stuff up Russian-kun? This thread proves that you can still hate on the game while at least sticking to factual information, or reasonable assumptions based on facts.

Someone wanna redpill me on this game? I obviously notice all of the shill threads as of late but I'm not like mad or anything just curious.

Did Minus 8 design this character?

reminder that this is what soros wants europe to breed with

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yeah that's basically how it works
I understand you don't actually care about playing the game and you just want tournament streams to masturbate to with your favorite esport celebrities to live out wrestling storylines, but to us that actually play games all that shit doesn't matter one fucking bit.

They had one 30 day extension because that's what indiegogo allows and reached their goal of 1.8 milion at day 40.

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So am I understanding this right this game is MikeZ does VP in MesoAmerica?

How the hell is this shill if like 90% of threads are to shit over it

I hope. One step closer to super smash porn tan battle bros.
All we need is shadman to design a new trap character.

Not MesoAmerica, it's more like oceanic asia.

I didn't let shit happen. I reported the blatant shill threads and mocked them for having to extend their deadline.

Ajna's village gets burned down
Goes on a magical, spiritual adventure to figure out why or something
Meets people along the way who she can absorb into her being

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lol

I think it was like 1,500,000. The shilling was really fucking apparent the longer it went on, especially after the extension.
VP/Metrovania game brought to you by the makers of Skullgirls with an much worse art direction than SG ever had.

>1.8 milion
Oh, now I can understand why they had a hard time.

Don't know what the fuck you're talking about.
First time coming to one of these threads since they got their funding.

If you reported it then why is the game still coming and why do we still get frequent threads? Because Yea Forums was enough of a boost to let it happen.
For someone who hates shills you somehow like taking it up the ass alot. What else would I expect from the literal cuck board?

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Can somebody explain to me what shilling is? It was my understanding that shills are people being paid to advertise a game like they're part of a community so that people don't realize they're being advertised to.

>Protag's village gets burned down
Oh yeah, this one is a classic

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Because mods don't do shit, and this was around the time they removed the shilling report option for a while too.

Ah, seems good though will probably actually pick up when it has full release.

Remember when faggots thought this game wasn't going to get funded so they celebrated like retards?

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>create visual perfection with your first game
>fuck it up by going for quantity > quality on character designs in your second game
I just think of nothing other than disappointment whenever this game pops into my head.

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Its a hipster term for "something is popular therefore it must be orchestrated. Also im a delusional faggot."

Part of the irony in this is that Skullgirls literally has at least, 4 tournament streams a week, including regular streams from Europe Russia Japan and Oceania regions. Even WNF added SG back to its monthly rotation because the scene in that area has been going for years and is willing to show up.

Truth is if more Skullgirls "fans" could get their heads out of 2013, stop making excuses, and at least participate in more of this stuff, we could easily double the number of viewers and entrants for these things.

At this point I have no idea as well. Shills would never advertise negatively a game no matter what "reverse logic" excuse they have

Really I think the initial goal was just too high. 1.5 million is almost twice what the skullgirls campaign made, it was always going to be a struggle

Don't know nigga I just see that there a lot of fucking threads about the game take it easy, kay?

>VP
I know I'm gay but what does that stand for? Love Metroidvanias so I'm half in. Looks like a soulless version of the latest Shantae. No idea wtf Skullgirls is.

Please tell me the one in the middle isn't this character

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Wait for when the game launches and gets a lot of attention for a long time since artist community love it.

Valkyrie Profile

So now you're putting your faith into mods? Do you see what they let happen on a daily basis? That is pathetic. That's like the equivalent of david and goliath. Goliath being the big bad Yea Forums and David being a small studio of about 4 people.

yeah, i'm honestly not a fan of that part, but I like the characters and lesser known mythology, so I'm interested to see what they'll do with it

Remember when faggots thought they were getting the top designs?

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Valkyrie Profile. Some niche JRPG everyone loved for everything besides it's combat that people have been ripping off for the past decade thinking people liked it's combat
>no idea wtf Skillgirls is
it's a fighting game, all the characters are hand drawn. Even if you don't typically like fighting games the art style is very pretty and has amazing technical excellence. Massive disappointment looking at this game's art coming off of it

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That is precisely what a shill is.

Tell me what shilling is. You keep using that word, but I'm not sure this is even shilling. What is shilling for you?

God I hate this place so fucking much

>artist community
Don't be so sure, retard.
Most of the artist community doesn't know this game exists.
What you're thinking of is the twitter artist/youtube animator clique who all constantly circle jerk each other regardless of quality.

This is fucking hilarious, I haven't seen this.

And that works really well.

So how do we know that people are getting paid to do this?

Because they talk about things I don't like and nobody would genuinely do that, obviously

What exactly are you going for with these posts?

Exactly what is written here What are you confused by?

So they... added a loli and changed a design?
I thought Yea Forums liked cun

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>Comparign concept art to model sheets

Why do you retards even
The only two designs that even changed significantly in this image are Baozhai and Vasco

I liked him better when his chest was covered. It left more to the imagination and didn't make him look so promiscuous.

Someone literally posted it before that user up there

>seething so hard that you repost an image from like 200 posts ago that was already debunked

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Skullgirls had the benefit of being a complete game with a properly tooled engine and mechanics, and they were just funding the DLC work.. Indivisible still uses the Z-Engine, but everything needed to be retooled for the game, building a level editor, along with story writing and characters, basically starting from the ground up. Pretty sure Skullgirls initial budget was in the millions as well.

Thanks for the redpill. Looks like I won't be supporting this one, right?

>Implying I'm going to read through a 500 reply thread

Your asshurt isn't subtle.

T-they didn't remove her right?

Yeah, fair point

He always looked like he fucked bitches on saturdays and sucked dicks on sundays, though. Someone's definitely into Ren on the Lab Zero design team.

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Any ETA finally besides "somewhen this year" >?

Skullgirls was a passion project.
Indivisible is a desperate attempt to stay afloat after Skullgirls floundered.
>b-but it broke even!!
Wow, congrats, usually the goal is profits though.

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I'm pretty sure she's still in the game. Haven't seen any footage of her yet, but we just got the footage of falcon girl a couple weeks ago, so whatever

of course a retard with anger issues isn't able to read

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Pretty sure that Lab Zero shat over Yea Forums during early development

Most of the designs in that image changed, you spaz. The level of finish isn't the issue.

summer

Why wouldn't Indivisible be a passion project?

>IF YOU HAVE ISSUES WITH SOMETHING I LIKE YOUR JUST APART OF THE RAGE CULTURE LOOKING FOR STUFF TO GET MAD ABOUT IN BAD FAITH

I completely believe you're an animator because only an animator would have their hand so far up their own ass

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Haven't seen anything about that so far though

Skullgirls made a LOT of profit, retard-kun.

Considering I replied to your post it's obvious I can read.
But now based off your response, the question is, can you?

Just wait and see. You said you were into Metroidvanias right? No one knows how deep that aspect of the game actually goes, so might be worth keeping an eye on to see if that actually flourishes, though I wouldn't put any fucking hope in a VP inspired combat system being good. So far from the prereleae footage the "metroidvania shit looks bland as shit though.
Lab Zero is trying to keep itself alive through this project and gain enough ground to actually be able to make games without being fucked over by a publisher again like SG's first release or having to always rely on crowdfunding.

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>Significantly
It's concept art, user. Of course it will change, and if that was really your issue, only two changed significantly.

Also I'm not a spaz
Take it back

Not enough to fund their own game though, so not enough.

He was just pointing out how that user didnt know shit about what they were talking about in animation regard and that is true

trying to release a valkyrie profile clone in 2019(?) isn't a desperate attempt to stay afloat

making a porn game would be a desperate attempt to stay afloat

>arguing semantics
Ah.. seething's rare final form. Truly a beautiful sight

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>no u

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>It's okay we tricked backers with prettier looking designs than what will actually be in the game because animation is hard :(

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based
source?

Because they were the developers and not the publisher, retard-kun. The publisher gets the money from the sales, not the developers.

>Lab Zero is trying to keep itself alive through this project and gain enough ground to actually be able to make games without being fucked over by a publisher again like SG's first release or having to always rely on crowdfunding.

So why wouldn't Indivisible be a passion project?

>Accuse someone of being unable to read because YOU mis-read their post
>s-semantics!

Keep posting laughing pictures, it really shows how not mad you are.

No one is saying that

>Rotating the image to laugh at him harder
Holy fucking based

"Significantly" is a weasel word. The designs changed for the worse. Some went from solid designs to complete shit, most are at least a little worse.

MikeZ said something about Yea Forums being a racist hole of negativity, which is honestly pretty on point.

Oh so has Lab Zero come out and apologize for misleading people?

>being retarded enough to get hooked by concept art and ignoring the demo

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>fund a game from a company known almost 99% only for their character designs and animations
>bitch out, simplify the character designs, and make the animation shit
never crowdfund kids
because it's more about making the money to keep them alive than the finished project
if Lab Zero has any intentions of anything outside of a passion project with Indivisible they are legitimately retarded because barely anyone likes VP

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>Whataboutism