Why couldn't it be as good as 2?
Kingdom Hearts 3
Nomura's a hack and SE are an incompetent business
Too many spinoffs and Released too long.
Most people outgrown this series already.
The only good thing about KH3 is the model rip of it.
Wheres my fucking Elsa Anna Rapunzel porn with KH3 models goddammit.
What are you talking about? Kingdom Hearts 3 isn't out yet.
Any game that takes 10+ years to make is doomed to have many issues.
Thankfully KH3 didn't turn out to be too bad, it's just really empty for a game from a series known for being long epic games
It didn't take 10+ years to make
It took way too long and feels like a feels pretty rushed
This, and it probably never will be.
It's better than 2. It's not as good as the re-released super version of 2.
they could have taken the 8 years of speculation and ideas into actual development time instead of the 5 year "rush job" the game actually received.
Growing up I loved the KH series and kept up with the lore until about 3DS. I picked this up on launch and couldn't get past toy box without realizing how fucking stupid the dialogue is. KH is a mess and Nomura is a fucking hack, kill this shit off already.
They didn't plan on making a great game. In an interview, the co-director said that they implemented everything they wanted to. They never were going to try to make the best KH game possible. They set their standards low and then met them. It's very sad. The difficulty was not based around what fans wanted, but what the director's kids wanted.
2 was just as shit as 3. FM salvaged it with critical, that's yet to be seen for 3
Are kids just that at video games?
>pay $60 more for a better version
no way fag
>this fucking historical revisionism
Take Square's dick out of your ass.
Thankfully it's not as good as 2, it's better.
>pay $60 more for a better version
way ahead of you, I didn't purchase this shit. I'm waiting for a complete edition to go on sale for like 15 bucks before then, probably even getting it used, I'm not giving money to these faggots after FFXV
I want to think that KH3 Final Mix will be just a dlc since back in the PS2 era they didn't had that shit.
But knowing how Square is it might be a full re-release
retard, 2 was heavily criticized for its story and press X to win gameplay that wasn't rectified until critical mode. 3 is in the same category as base 2
It's not as good as 2FM but it's better than vanilla KH2
name one game where the the 3rd installment was better than the 2nd
Nomura said that Critical for KH3 will be free, and the FM stuff will likely just be one large paid DLC pack
Then Square has to give us the DLC for free if we already own the Base game. I ain't paying extra
It is not, 3's problems run far deeper than a retarded critical mode for speed running trannies can ever hope to try and fix.
>well known flaws of vanilla 2 are pointed out
>call it revisionism
2FMniggers are the worst fucking people.
This
Devil May Cry, duh
Sonic 3 and Knuckles
Square has to do a lot of stuff which they're too retarded to do
I agree, but the jury's out until critical mode is out. Like I said both 2 and 3 base are trash, 2FM largely sucks too but the boss fights are salvaged with critical. The story for this series is irredeemable beyond the first title
>Any game that takes 10+ years to make is doomed to have many issues.
the game took like 6-7 years since it was announced in 2013.
but the biggest problem was that the combat system wasn't as good as 2's and most of 3's story was contained to the last world(s). Also that it teased MORE KH games.
As much as I like the series, I expected 3 to be the ending of the whole thing, not just only resolving Xehanort's bullshit.
>name one game where the the 3rd installment was better than the 2nd
Xenosaga
Metal Gear Solid.
Remember everyone vanilla Kingdom Hearts 2 was horrible and barebones before final mix added content. So sadly this big pile of shit will only get better after the dlc that's coming. I keep hearing were getting a xion dlc explaining how she got there and shit. Hope it's true desu
No. Fans and critics rate it lower than than base game 2.
It was considered good. That's revisionism. Was very highly rated.
Why don't threads gt taken down if they are fully resolved in the first post? Are the mods really that lazy?
Sorry but Square will most likely want to suck your money so don't have high hopes for that
>Then Square has to give us the DLC for free if we already own the Base game. I ain't paying extra
I doubt that is going to happen. Look at how Square charged everyone who owned the base version of FFXV $15 for the Royal Edition DLC ("fixed" final chapter, a boat, and Argimer Unleashed being a button mashing "upgrade"), even Season Pass holders had to shell out the $15
>, I expected 3 to be the ending of the whole thing, not just only resolving Xehanort's bullshit.
That's your fault for not paying attention to prerelease info, the problem is that the game spends more time dangling future plot shit in front of you than actually giving the Xehanort saga a satisfying ending.
Was just about to say that
>horrible and barebones before final mix added content
Only according to e-celebs, and those faggots can rot in hell for all I care.
>That's your fault for not paying attention to prerelease info
after pre-release stuff for FFXV and MGS5 being total fucking lies. I stopped giving a fuck about pre-release shit, even trailers.
Whats wrong with it? I was thinking of getting it. I remember playing 1 a long time ago and thinking it was fun.
1 is the only good one in the series, and like the last 10% of 2 final mix
Nothing. Yea Forums just over exaggerates like usual.
Bad story. Lackluster gameplay.
It's okay but not as good as KH2
I would say "wait for a sale" but I think the 33% off sale is still active
It didn't live up to the hype. It's not a bad game in it's core but it leaves a lot to be desired
Well let's really talk about Kingdom Hearts II.
The worlds are trash. They are a series of corridors and are absolutely visually uninteresting, largely being smaller and blander versions of the settings we saw in movies. Of the twelve central Disney worlds in the game, five simply retell the original stories of the films. These games also continue to insist at me that somehow there are a bunch of invisible people watching at the seats of the coliseum because apparently, effort. Also, Atlantica. Just the whole of Atlantica. Literally the second-worst rhythm game I have ever played.
Gameplay-wise, there is more depth in it than it deserves, at least prior to the release of Final Mix+. I know people like to shit on KH3's bonus boss as a joke because, let's be honest, it is. It fucking is. But Sephiroth was no better. Sephiroth is shit. The only time Sephiroth is a threat is at the beginning of the first time you fight him because you probably weren't expecting there to be a QTE at the very fucking beginning of the fight, but he's shit. Now, most of these issues do get fixed in FM+ with the introduction of the Absent Silhouettes and Critical Mode but don't fucking act like KHII was a masterpiece
On the FF side of things, Aerith's entire character is just completely vapid. Yuffie is pointless. EVERYTHING ABOUT CLOUD IS FUCKING INFURIATING. Literally the only good FF character in this game is Auron, and I fucking hated FFX. And who the fuck even gives a shit about Squall? He says and does absolutely nothing of value.
OH, AND BY THE WAY, THE GUY YOU FOUGHT IN THE LAST GAME WHO CALLED HIMSELF ANSEM ISN'T ACTUALLY ANSEM? Really? Was this fucking necessary? Did you like the name "Ansem" so much that you really needed to introduce another character who's called that? No, really, someone explain to me why it was ever necessary for there to be two characters named Ansem. Sora never even fucking knew who Ansem was, so this revelation means precisely fucking nothing to him.
Different team in charge and different engine used. It couldn't be as good as 2 even if the team wanted it to be.
Terrible picture doesn't even show what is actually bad about kh3
X,X,X,X,X,Δ
I beat the game guys!
X,X,X,X,X, R1, O, O, O ,O ,O
Because you're not a kid anymore.
Nomura was too busy rushing through the plot points so he could get to his next autistic fanfic plan for the series.
The visuals are alright. Music is decent.
The gameplay is retardedly easy. For example I was playing on proud and only used healing items on the very last boss.
The story is complete shit except for the very very last bit of the game. And if you condensed it down it would be maybe 20 minutes at most.
The worlds also feel more and more empty the further you get. Like they didn't have enough time to polish them off.
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all faggotry in this thread aside what do you all niggas think of whats been said to be in critical mode?
khinsider.com
I think Osaka team is fucking retarded and don't trust them to actually deliver, but I'll certainly be fucking ecstatic to be proven wrong.
I'll believe it once I get to try it myself
It's either gonna greatly improve the game and satisfy long time fans or be a wet fart and add almost nothing. The fact that they're saying they're adding new mechanics makes me think itll be good. I can only hope that it needs attraction flow and makes keyblade transformations more valuable/satisfying.
Square Enix is too big to manage things effectively
Street fighter 3