Space Engine

These black hole threads are worse than the time Yea Forums heard the term "dyson sphere" from the hl3 blog post.

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>first image of a black hole!
>arbitrarily color the radio waves orange to give people a false impression of what it would look like
Based scientist

FOCUS!

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Thanks, Family Guy poster.

For me it's the vastness of space and the irrational fear of hitting something when I go at the speed of light. Also ascending to the surface of a red giant makes my skin crawl.

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>Humanity will never reach the stars
>We will be consumed by nigger genes in less than 100 years instead

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It's a shame that the dev turned into a fucking kike over the last couple years. First he breaks his promise that the planetarium version of SE would always be free, and now he's started removing features to sell as DLC.

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We deserve it
We let the Roman Empire collapse

Not an argument.

A man has to eat.

"Black holes are impossible" isn't an argument either

would you live there? You could breathe the atmosphere and function like you do here

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Why are they impossible then?

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Nigger genes brought humanity to free energy from the pyramids and their piezoelectric power generators. Why do you think they try to restrict Egyptology research?

Got any of these in higher res? Particularly middle top

Ray tracing when?

>Space Engine
big fucking nope. can't play this game, it's too fucking scary. accidentally teleported into a sun and just alt+f4'd out of there in fear. can never go back.

Those are some nice kinos

holy shit, fuck you.

>different gravitation
>different amount of moons
>different distance from its star
>function the same
no.

>it's too fucking scary
>why is this the only game that can actually make me afraid?
Are you afraid of dark or something, anons?

>1 moon
boring

>if you disagree with me you're a retard watching shadows
Holy shit

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I remember when I was afraid of google earth back then.

You should switch Socrates with Plato, it sort of doesn’t make sense considering that Plato’s Cave allegory is named like that because Plato wrote it, but in Republic (in which you hear about the cave), it’s actually written as a dialogue between Socrates and other people, and the Allegory is given by Socrates.

looks fake as fuck how can people believe this shit

Proper gameplay when? This could be the best space exploration sim if done right

When are they going to add grass, or at least volumetric clouds

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>When you stare into the abyss the abyss stares back at you

im afraid the game will bug and pop some black hole or other scary shit just in front of my camera
when I use the "teleport to planet" feature I have to close my eyes because of this

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It looks like this because its more difficult then trying to take a picture of an apple on the moon

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Don't mean to sound like a "2deep"-retard, but the idea that you're so small in a massive universe, potentially mutliple universes, with so many things we cannot explain, things we'll never see, things you'll miss out on is a frightening thought, atleast for me.
Black holes are NOPE as fuck though, even though they interest me greatly

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I want her to suck my dick

We already have "flight model" and ships in this, we just need to add gameplay to this.

user, its literally about 50 million lightyears from us.
That means it takes light coming from it 50 MILLION YEARS to get to us.
Think about it, The fastest thing in the universe takes that long to get to us.
Its like trying to take a picture of a fly on top of a mountain while you're standing at the base of the mountain itself.

>tfw she spaghettifies your dick making you cum endlessly due to time dialation

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boo

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FAT

What is the most efficient way to make webms for 4 chan? Is there a site that can convert for maximum file size?

There have to be ayys out there, it's impossible that we are alone, it's just that the universe is so huge we'll never even know they existed

quality

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TITS

what exactly spook people about black holes?
the "no escape past this point" aspect? the fear of one fucking up earth or its orbit? the spacetime fuckery surrounding them? the fact we really have no idea exactly what the fuck happens past the event horizon?
i find them interesting and not spooky so i'm curious

Its cool to think about because we have no idea how rare life actually is. For all we know, life is incredibly rare and our earth is the only planet to have ever developed it.
Then again, the universe is so massive there HAS to be ayylmaos, right? The chances of molecules aligning just the right way to form a living being must be probabable enough in such a large universe. God I hope I live to see proper space exploration.

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>download Webm for bakas which is a wrapper around ffmpeg
>calculate bitrate with 8*3000/x where x is time of the webm in seconds. (3000 is the file size)
>limit file size to 3MB
>enable high quality
>enable 2-pass encoding
>use sensible resolutions like 1280x720 or 960x540

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>Proper space exploration
Even if we somehow achieved 100% light speed it would still take us millions of years to even reach Andromeda, that dream is dead before it even began

I've got a little bit of claustrophobia which is contributing to the fear. Just the idea of ever experiencing a "point of no return" fucks me up mentally.
I remember reading a story about some cave explorers, where one of them got stuck in an incredibly tight part of the cave, and he just had to sit there til he died, with his family there with him. That shit fucked me up for a good couple of hours.
Spacetime isnt so scary, its just physics. A black hole has no more gravitational pull than a star with the same mass so I'm not scared of it fucking with earth either.

Imagine being a species that evolved on a planet orbiting a black hole massive enough to warm it with its accretion disc, or orbiting a star that's having its outer mass sucked away into a nearby black hole. You'd look out into the sky and see pure death and terror every single day

>its another le spooky hole amazing space thread

Traveling at the speed of light probably isn't what he was talking about because that wouldn't be proper space exploration
I guess he was talking a out shit like wormholes and bending space

>pure death and terror
Isn't the sun just that?

Black holes, for example sag a, can actually be fairly harmless and stable

I doubt we'll ever reach Andromeda, but there is plenty of interesting things to see in the Milky Way.

I saw a ''documentary'' where a man got sucked by a black hole when I was a kid(like sucked up into the sky). That kind of made them scary to me.

>Gimme pwanets uwu

What do you need to get the beta? My first and only post on the forum got the attention of the developer

Reminder that life as we know feeds on death rays and breathes poison. If anything the universe should fear us for grey gooing it.

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the biggest problem with (near) light speed travel (or any incredibly high speed travel) is any bit of space debris has the potential to end your trip very quickly

Be a streamer/tester, I guess

imagine the smell

I was thinking more in the line of being able to take proper pictures of all the space phenomenon like black holes, nebulae, neutron stars, etc.
Imagine a nature show except its in fucking space talking about different stellar bodies and their environments with authentic, clear footage taken on location.

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yeah that makes sense, caves are close to nope territory for me too and underwater onesmake me nope into orbit
and i dunno why but the whole black hole messing with earth seems to spook some people. guess they heard of rogue black holes and ignored how absurdly unlikely it'd be to have one visit the solar system

In my opinion venturing beyond our own solar system is a dumb meme, we've got a massive reactor of near infinite power right here in the centre of our home and so much resources they will last us forever. If we built even a partial dyson swarm around the sun it would provide us with so much energy that our technological progress would jump centuries ahead.

active volcano on exoplanet

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Does someone have a link

>going from AUs to m/s and realizing that's the average human walking speed

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green and purple world

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is there more?

>Going through space so fast that your GPU starts making jet noises because it can't keep up
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK

Noice one

How did they know what black holes looked like before a picture of one was taken?

Will it cost money?

thanks, exodoctor

Like most discoveries, they are illustrated by math long before we actually find them.
Black holes' existance has been calculated and hypothesised for a long time now, and now that they've found one they've confirmed their suspicions.

>Lost all my images when my Seagate died
Fucking Seagate, never again.

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>6.5 billion solar masses
THICC

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is there anything math can't do?

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Wait, is 0.9.9 out yet?

>regurgitating what wannabe scientists say just because it sounds fancy

Give me good grades
*AHEM*
FUCK LINEAR ALGEBRA and FUCK PURE MATH COURSES
What else would you have me say?
"They know because math said so."?

make me happy.

no. phd, and a 300k starting salary -- wherever i want

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Damn reminds me of notch, lots of money but spends time on places like here instead

i lied i don't actually have a math phd i'm a botanist :(

During an earthquake, while inside a moving vehicle, while using a Sony Mavica.

Find me a tomboy gf.

Waiting for the update.

Sounds dope af

Wait til they learn about black hole bombs or the Age of Blackholes.

>Black holes can break the laws of physics

THAN THEY ARENT FUCKING LAWS NOW ARE THEY???

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>black things breaking laws
this shouldn't be a suprise

Black hole are filthy criminals who think they are above the law.

please tell us what laws they break that you totally understand, mr scientist

No they don't. They bend them

>If we built even a partial dyson swarm around the sun it would provide us with so much energy that our technological progress would jump centuries ahead.

I just wanna see this before I die, goddamn it. I know it's not happening though.

eh stars are pretty cool guys

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Find the missing axiom in Godels incompleteness theorem

Math only works cause our brains have broken down concepts to where we can perceive it as correct.

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Find them, or get them to love you?
Because Math can find them. It can't make them love you though.

It CAN help you woo her, but you're still going to have to put in additional effort.

Late answer but its not my meme. I found it on /sci/ when I was shitposting about how much I hate math.

>VR mode

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Organic/peptide chemistry has been confirmed on asteroids so I find it difficult to believe that there wouldn’t be life out there, Kepler identified a heap of planets that are in the Goldilocks zone for life/liquid water. Even then take a look at all of the extremeophiles on Earth, there are bacteria that can grow in boiling water, insects that get frozen solid and reanimate and fungi that grow in the core of nuclear power plants. There has to be something out there.

If they weren't breaking laws then they would be okay with us seeing inside them. What have they got to hide huh?

hehehHAHAHAoHOHOHOH

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Mark Watney go to bed.

In the center of ablack holeis agravitational singularity, a one-dimensionalpoint which contains a hugemassin an infinitely small space, wheredensityandgravitybecome infinite andspace-timecurves infinitely, and where the laws of physics as we know them cease to operate. As the eminent American physicist Kip Thorne describes it, it is "the point where all laws of physics break down".

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What happens if I stick my dick past the event horizon?

>Found I still had a music folder called "SPAAAACEE" I got in a SE thread thread years ago

Mood
youtu.be/xrGAQCq9BMU

Actchually with a certain math calculation of brain chemical manipulation and frequency, you can mind control someone to love you. Aka MK Ultra.

I agree. I do think there are ayys out there, to me thats just probability, but using extreme living conditions on earth as an argument falls short when you consider the fact that those organisms likely all evolved from an initial "spark" from which all life on earth stems from.
What I'm talking about when referring to the rarity of life is the rarity of that initial "spark", the "kickstart" for life and evolution, the initial cell. Theres no way for us to know on earth, the process likely takes millions of years, we'd need to actually find life.

Is there white holes?

Black holes are just too insane. I really want to understand the holographic principle mathematically, because conceptually it's just...too much. It's horrifying also that we live in a universe full of black holes. Also would a black hole be considered another dimension, because if inside a black hole you can never leave the black hole the way you went into the black hole, and to reconcile that the universe radiates "you" out of the black hole but no information is loss because the two yous can never meet?

imagine the smell

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To clarify, we didn't "find" one, we knew where a lot of them were, we just couldn't take a picture. We just made a "huge telescope" and took the picture.

In the event that you
>can somehow remain outside of the event horizon
Your dick gets ripped off
>you cannot keep yourself outside of the event horizon
You float towards the singularity of the black hole, your dick leading the charge, as you approach the singularity the effect of the gravity would grow so exponentially and the difference between two points on your body would be so great your dick (and (you)) would literally ripped apart.

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Honestly we just arent there yet. We act as if our science and calculations are precise, but we are pretty damn new at it. I mean Hawking was someone in our lifetime that helped explain their properties. Like all sciences it will take centuries and countless other minds that build off one another to unlock its mysteries.

Im sure thousands of years from now, they will be understood and misconceptions being weeded out and a lot less scary.

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Yeah, thats what I meant. Poor wording I guess.
Better wording would have probably been to say that we've finally "seen" one, as opposed to just looking at radiation and x-ray bursts

How do they discover things by black holes by pure math?

Do they just go to a drawing board one day, solve a math equation and say, oh 2+2=4 therefore a black hole exists.

I wasn’t using them to justify life starting on other worlds, just to show that once life gets started it can grow anywhere, but I see where your coming from. For all we know life could of started somewhere else and just came here by panspermia, theres also evidence to suggest that abiogenesis is completely possible where processes being driven by increasing chemical stability can eventually result in self replicating organic structures which later could become very primitive cells.

>Its cool to think about because we have no idea how rare life actually is.

Not only this, but the universe has only just begun too.

youtube.com/watch?v=uD4izuDMUQA

It's highly likely that we are the first.

Does space engine have a vr part yet? I was fucking around with Universe Sandbox's mode and that shit is fun

Please, Vladimir, for the love of god release it on steam

Einstein kinda predicted it. He formulated the field equations and saw that they had a solution which implied a singularity, a point with infinite density, but didn't believe it was a physical solution at first

Probably my best one.

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I get the same fear from any game when I clip through something accidentally and everything vanishes except the skybox. It's that feeling of being lost in endless space and not knowing what's up and down.

i edited a video
youtube.com/watch?v=lclKQAjoz1Q
When is the next update?

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>The fastest thing in the universe

there are things that go faster than light, c* speed, we just cannot see them and do not have the means of reaching that speed with our limited knowledge because we do not have a unified theory of physics so with our current model accelerating to the speed of light would multiply our mass infinitely which is a fancy way of saying we know jack fucking shit

Cause if you plug numbers into a formula or equation whatever it pops is true then its fact because it can be proven
2 sticks plus 2 sticks WILL hive you 4 sticks. You can physically prove that. You can not prove 1 stick plus another stick will give you 4 sticks.

If both sides of the equation match than it will always be on the money. however there is a missing "force" or "variable" that can not be proven with math. Called Godels incompleteness theorem.
Im no expert, but I believe to simplify it is to say that an incompatible equation can pop out a true statement, but you can not prove it. So therefore it can not be true.

First you have something you need to solve. In this case, it was the fact that if you measured the speed of light at different relativistic speeds, the speed was the same.

Then a lot of math goes into demonstrating why this is the case, by explaining it, and also predicting other things as a consequence.

That comes true, so now people accept your theory, and try to apply it in new ways. Then you realize that if what you said is true, and to a large degree you have proved it so, so we can assume it is, then something else must be true. In this case it was that spacetime is curved, and mass warps it, so there should exist huge mass wells that light or anything else can't escape from.

You then theorize a black hole, and now need to try to explain it in detail and prove certain properties of it and the like. This takes a long time, we are still going on something like 60 years now and not done yet.

>oh 2+2=4 therefore a black hole exists.
christ, you're a fucking brainlet

>make theory
>try to find anything that contradicts theory
>can't find anything
>publish it
The hard part is finding the theory in the first place, some of it can be just logical conclusions of others, as the existance of black holes was.

>tfw everyone's screenshots are cooler than mine

How do you do it bros?

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Just because something is provable with math does not actually make it true for the natural world, especially because our model of the universe is very incomplete. Godels Incompleteness theorem is interesting but doesn't really have much of a relation though.

find good spots it's not that hard :)

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Faster?

I wouldn't know because I'm not actually a scientist, just a student, but usually what happens is they'd notice a deficit in their calculations, or make a postulate so that their calculations would match up.
For example, you'd discover x which would mean y would also be true, or maybe you solve a big problem, and what you end up with is a result that doesnt follow our current knowledge of physics. What scientists then try to do is hypothesize possible solutions. Theories are made that postulate conditions and ideas. Sometimes those theories are right on the money.

its fucking shocking how much space engine evolved, I remember playing around with it 4+ years ago and it didn't look even remotely like it does now

>all that waste of money for this shit which isn't going to change anybody's life

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>people actually think this unironically

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yeah knowledge is so fucking stupid we should all live in the forests beating animals with sticks like our good ancestors did, much better

Yeah, I sorta wish when we die we get to know all the secrets. I bet we would be sorta laughing at ourselves on how all the anomalies of the universe that scare or intrigue us during our time here probably arent as mysterious as we think.

Sorta like how we brush off a lighter but to a caveman its fucking voodoo magic.

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Seriously, tell me how it changes shit for us?

A life with no curiosity is nonlife to be lived. What may be seen as useless now will be a piece in a larger and more fascinating puzzle

Thanks for sharing user, that’s great
>Not doing things for the joy of finding out
If we were all like you we’d have never left Africa

that's the fastest one I've seen

you realize general relativity is the entire reason you have a functioning gps to take you to tyrone's apartment to watch him fuck your girlfriend, right?

kek

Why don't we look for planets from the bottom or top of Earth???

What did he mean by this?

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that's what they said when you were born

i wish we could view our galaxy from above so we could see the whole thing

HOO HOO HOO HOO HOO HOO STIMS AND SMGS CANNOT WITHSTAND MY PEE PEE

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wait fuck this isnt titanfall general
damn it
sorry

I wish I could put you at the bottom of the earth

>arbitrary
Yeah I'm sure it has nothing to do with what side of the EM spectrum it sits on

before you go
do you want to stick your dick into a black hole?

>die
>go to an afterlife
>immediately hit up the wiki for the secrets missed out in your playthrough

>Earth spins fucking fast
>Solar system is spinning at huge speeds
>Galaxy is spinning at fuckhuge speeds
>Then there's this asshole that thinks it is a blender
Just how fast are we moving in the universe?

Space games are boring,space sandbox games are urreedimeable garbage,this doesn't even look like a game.

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Its ok little guy, you're American, its only natural for you to be retarded :)

I do all the time
except my kraber rounds are my dick

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I think you're the dum dum here.

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relative to what ? :^)

You just reminded me that a landing on a goddamn asteroid was drowned out by apes screaming at a lewd T-shirt. Sentient being my gaping ass.

The Earth is tilted, idiot

>vertical x axis
>horizontal y axis
>1000 hours in paint drawing that means nothing to me
Heres your (You)

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classic

>Accelerating to the speed of light would multiply our mass infinitely which is a fancy way of saying we know jack fucking shit

YOU know jack fucking shit, scientists know that's not how relativistic momentum works at all.