In most shooters and RPGs, the enemies are suicidal idiots; they announce their presence as soon as they notice you, and rarely work together. I'm looking for games where the opponents behave as or more competently than the player. For example:
Stealth and camouflage - when they notice you, enemies go silent and use nonverbal communication, and the communication matters: if they can't see each other, the can't see hand signals (for example). They don't magically know what each other knows. Enemies use camouflage based on their knowledge about their environment. They seek out hiding places, and use misdirection. An enemy dropped into a new location will learn about its surroundings and figure out the best positioning and camouflage, with no scripting required.
Environmental awareness - enemies realize when the player is trying to maneuver them toward a cliff, lava, or other hazard, and try to get out of there; and they'll use hazards against the player. If they feel outmatched or afraid, they'll put obstructions between themselves and the player, and try to flee, choosing the path that makes them hardest to follow. They behave differently depending on what the player is doing; if the player hacks in flight in a game that normally doesn't have it, they'll notice, and try to get inside, or shoot him down. In general, every enemy should have the same awareness of its environment as any human would, and use that information to its advantage. Also, enemies should be capable of identifying and using exploits the developers didn't know about before release. For example, in Oblivion, you can kill many melee enemies without any risk by jumping on top of a rock. If Oblivion was a good game, the enemies would do the same thing to the player (of course, the player usually has ranged attacks). Enemies without ranged attacks should flee immediately when the player does this; those that are capable of jumping and that prefer melee should get on the rock with the player. (cont)
Teamwork - where appropriate, enemies employ squad tactics, attempting to flank, surround, cut off escape, etc. Enemies know about their comrades based on what they can see and hear, just like a human would. Enemies can have more or less discipline and courage, depending on what they are, and context and setting. One or more members might use itself to draw out the player into an ambush, or bait him into firing and giving away his position (which is actually helpful information to the enemies, and not for show - they have no more ability to sense the player than any player has to sense another player).
Some games may have special gadgets and abilities that enhance the player's senses; common examples include motion detectors, heartbeat sensors, infrared cameras, clairvoyance, xray vision. If the enemies have access to such abilities, they should use them, and the information provided should actually be useful to them, and they should make use of it in the same way a reasonable human would.
There are plenty of other ways in which computer opponents fall short, of course, the are just the bare minimum requirements. If a game can at least meet these standards, then I know it might be worth checking out to see if its opponents are at least as intelligent as a six year old.
Oliver Hill
Before I answer OP tell me, have you been diagnosed with autism?
Yeah most online shooters have something like that. Counter Strike and Rainbow Six Siege have opponents that at least try to imitate communication.
Mason Hall
I'm not talking about imitation
Christopher Thompson
Honestly I can't think of anything even close to what you're after. The industry has been too busy chasing shiny graphics to bother making any advancements in AI, because who cares about gameplay, right?
Modded STALKER is the closest I can think, but the AI in that is janky as fuck and only works half the time. It's cool when it does, though. I played CoP earlier in the year and was taken down a few times when I thought I had killed a whole group, only for the last remaining enemy to quietly sneak up behind me and blow my brains out with a shotgun.
Jace Butler
Wooosh
Christopher Bell
You could have just written 'i want a game with good ai'
the awnser is the same, there isnt any
COP STALKER is the closet, along with FEAR, sort of.
I didn't miss anything, the games you mentioned are not examples of what I'm looking for.
Austin Jenkins
play multiplayer retard
Nathan Gray
contribute to the thread or do not reply.
Luis Lee
Yeah you do have autism OP
Jayden Foster
nah
Jackson Allen
How are mp games not what you are looking for?
Dylan Baker
You absolutely missed the point. The point is AI like this doesn't exist, the closest you'll get in playing with other humans online. They are, moreso than you.
Grayson Ortiz
no they're not.
Tyler Hughes
Hello there! Peter Griffin here.
You seem to have some troubles understanding a joke that was directed to you. Allow me to help. The previous poster used the term "Woosh", to signify there was a joke that went straight over your head, making a "woosh" sound.
You see, user. The poster above you implied that the only way to get opponents that thinks and plays like you do, is to play with opponents that are like you - human. He then implied that these players "imitate communication", which is a satirical way to portray the general lack of communication skills displayed by players in online games.
nope, I didn't miss it; your point is simply irrelevant. don't reply to the thread if you aren't going to be useful.
Caleb Reed
how is it anything he is looking for when he is complaining about single player games?
Sebastian Murphy
rainbow six and CS both have AI opponents, and he wasn't making a joke.
Easton Reyes
Yes they absolutely are, you're just too retarded to see it. My reply was useful, I gave you all the information you needed to know. That no such game exist like you are looking for. I even threw in the bonus that the closest you'll get to what you are looking for is playing against actual players online, not my fault you're too retarded to figure out how to read.
Andrew Lopez
Play FEAR you fucking autistic sperg.
Jacob Bennett
Please listen to Peter, user.
Kevin Nelson
nope, they aren't. your reply wasn't useful. fix yourself.
Eli Peterson
no.
Alexander Taylor
what’s the gameplay difference between the described ai opponents and humans anyway if op didn’t write computer opponents right at the very end in some offhanded remark, i’d call him a retard and tell him to go play mp too
Jaxson Diaz
Learn to read then. Nothing's even >implied. Wreck & neck yourself tardie.
Zachary Bell
ARMA 3 AI will imitate trying to engage you realistically including pretty much everything you mentioned up there but only after installing an AI mod or two.
OP wants something that has never existed, no AI can emulate being a living thing with it's own sense of self-preservation on your outdated shitbox, it's why developers give AI the upperhand (The AI is a cheating bastard) because a skilled player can outmatch it at every turn. There's this Russian on Youtube that plays crazy games of Warcraft 3 against the hardest AI, like 1 v 7 shit and whatever and he wins them through outwitting the AI
Easton Wilson
Tactical shooters like SWAT and ARMA is designed around realistic enemy responses. Bad guys in SWAT will wait in conver to ambush you, flank you, or simply flee and warn their allies. ARMA takes modding before the AI is impressive but after you do they become pretty deadly . SWAT 4 is definitely easier to get into if you can only do SP because ARMA kind of requires other people to get the most out of the game
In all seriousness in your average multiplayer players aren't actually much better then the AI. At least in their tendency to be suicidal unless the game has really harsh death penalties.
Carson Miller
Play Brothers in Arms
Ayden Wright
You know nothing. This guy as a brain, and uses ut very well. >inb4 OP Also, I’m taking this into consideration when making my game Wholesome OP.
How is it not what you want? They use stealth and camouflage. They use the environment to their advantage,they use teamwork. They use real fire team tactics like fire and advance, bounding, overwatch and flanking, they employ smoke grenades for concealment and frags /UGL to flush you out of cover, etc etc it’s as challenging human like AI as you’re going to get.
Jeremiah Evans
Based Peter Too bad OP is too autistic to notice
Isaac Rodriguez
stop this retarded meme. FEAR enemies is no different from CoD or CS
