>Steam is now censoring user reviews and is becoming way less user-oriented than it used to be, and you don't even own the games you buy
>Epic is a chink spyware that prioritizes publishers instead of users, abuses marketing jewry to create exclusivities on some games and has a skeleton of a platform
So, GoG is our main guy now?
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No.
>Steam is now censoring user reviews
>which you can simply deactivate
Just pirate everything and mail the developer $5 via post or Paypal.
It's more than they'd see if you bought it normally.
Bypass the middlemen and publishers completely.
GOG has been infiltrated and corrupted. Lurk more.
you don't own anything
you will get bored of it by the time not owning it matters, if it ever does
stop being insecure and get over It, are you scared of dying too, are you gonna worry about losing your life the same way you will lose your games or will you live for the moment like you have to do
who cares
i mainly use uplay
The fact that GOG isn't the biggest store despite obviously being the best means the free market has failed, pure and simple. I welcome our new Jewish overlords
This
Speak for yourself, I cherish the old game boxes from the 90's that I bought as a kid
>Just pirate everything and mail the developer $5 via post or Paypal.
You clearly say that without having ever done it.
I've never seen a developer publicly giving their paypal address so people could send them money.
I agree that it would be great, but it's not feasible currently.
>cluttering up your house with garbage
>GOG has been infiltrated and corrupted
How so? I never saw any kikery or SJW stuff coming from them.
Im going to clutter your anus with my dick
Oh wait I cant because there is jew dick inside already
Steam has the privilege of having been the first, and it's logically the biggest one, so everyone wants to be on it with their friends.
People are pretty faithful to brands actually, if they've been using Steam for a decade, it's difficult for them to change platform, even if the new one is better.
I left Steam only recently because of the censorship.
>So, GoG is our main guy now?
no because drm will always a thing no matter how many times it gets defeated sadly
I buy pretty much all my older games on gog since it's free from any software, but also they try to pack it with nice extras like manuals, design sketches, and maps
I fail to understand your argument since it's clearly not garbage
>censorship is opt-out in a setting page no one ever visits, so it's fine if the platform wants to misguide the users into believing a game has good reviews even if it's a lie
Their former twitter community manager was edgy and he poked the hornet's nest one too many times so they rallied for gog to remove him and they did. I think he has a new job now which is nice since apparently they doxx'd him and were calling his parents with death threats.
I want to go back
Same. GoG is for older games, Steam is for newer games. Piratebay is for singleplayer games, and Epic can go fuck themselves.
>hurr nothing really mattress
Your nihilism is showing.
>Steam is now censoring user reviews
>Game sucks, don't play it 0/10
Is not a review
Can you explain to me in a fair and balanced way what this censorship stuff is about? I still see bad reviews so I don't get it. Isn't it just to try to filter out Chinese review-bombings?
I don't care, I just play games.
It is. But "muh freeze peach!" or whatever.
That's not for you to decide, book burner.
>Metro 2034 gets a 0/10 from me because Metro 2035 is not on Steam
How is that a review?
>Can you explain to me in a fair and balanced way what this censorship stuff is about?
Steam must have received pressure or threats to leave from big companies publishers, because they enacted a new rule saying they can remove all bad reviews from a period if they consider them "invalid".
For example, the first game that was concerned was GTA5.
As you probably know, GTA5 has been "mixed" forever on Steam because they banned mods and random people online. Since the new rule, Valve has censored negative reviews, and now the game is "mostly positive".
Thus spitting on the face of people that gave a bad review of the game because the mods were banned or they were banned online for no reason or something.
>want to see if a game is considered good or not
>a bunch of manchildren give all games by made the developer of whose game I'm interested in 0/10s because they did something that's completely unrelated to the game itself
>still don't know if the game is considered good or not
Glad they got rid of review bombing
>GOG
What, the site that bans a guy for saying PC games won't be erased?
Fuck that.
I don't even like Steam. But haven't they only removed literally copypasted and identical spam reviews?
It's for the paying customer to decide what is a sufficient criteria for giving praise to a game or not.
Not you, book burner.
Still better than having no user reviews at all.
When Paragon was shutting down, Epic Games did a full refund for all microtransactions and payments all players ever bought in the game.
You think Valve will do the same with the Artifact?
They never removed any review. It's only that review bombs don't affect the game's review score aggregate.
It's literally the perfect system. You can see the review average score AND the negative reviews below, if you want (and you always should.)
It's just that the same mentally ill, attention seekers that post threads cheering on Epic games for (you)s also pretend that muh censorship.
Not good enough. A corrupt system that misleads customers is worse than a blank slate. Traitors before enemies.
>are you gonna worry about losing your life the same way you will lose your games
The second amendment acts as a wonderful deterrent to this, and it should be extended to games as well as life and liberty.
>who cares if they burn books, at least they still have some books, I'll keep supporting them, thus condoning it
>It's literally the perfect system.
It's fine for people who know better, but the problem is the people who don't know better. They're going to be swindled and hoodwinked because they don't know better. Defending customer rights is defending their rights too. Just because it wouldn't affect you doesn't mean it should be permitted.
no, fuck you polish faggot
>but user! Think of all the retards that only check the review score!
Who fucking cares holy shit. You sound like a fucking nerd. Here's a spoiler for you: The people that only look at the score aggregate don't give a fuck about your dumb review bombs.
>review bombing is pointless chink shill drone meme buzzword trash! This is good!
meanwhile, Rockstar taking legal action against modders for simply making mods was stopped thanks to review bombing letting the outrage be known
Those that don't know better won't be helped by pages after pages of angry Chinese ranting about translations
That's not an endorsement for hiding reviews. It's just you kicking and screaming that your feelings should matter more than everyone else's.
Though I suppose for physical media, it does.
The preservation of history being vital to ensure a minimum standard of quality, my right to reinstall dungeon keeper gold SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED.
But now thanks to Valve, review bombs won't have any effect anymore.
Customers won't have any way to make themselves heard.
Yes they will. They'll be less likely to purchase a game and support developers that abandon or ignore their customer base enough to merit backlash. This increases the likelihood that better games will be released in the future, or at least money goes to developers and publishers who care about their customers a little bit more often. It tips the scales slightly back to the direction it should be.
i really do appreciate that GoG puts games out DRM free so that I can download them, throw it on external or something and know that my game is mine and not held hostage on some launcher I have to use and I still get the peace of mind of knowing they’re storing my game in their server if anything happens to my external. It’s just a shame they rarely ever get any games I actually want and they don’t have the power/resources to acquire most new titles
Eh? No reviews are hidden. Besides, with your dumb logic, why would YOUR feelings matter more than anyone else's? It's a fact that nerds that leave negative reviews during a review bomb are only a tiny fraction of the game's total population so why would you matter?
>you buy it, you own it*
>*no refunds even if the fucking thing doesn't work
Yeah. Sure. "Utmost" care about customers.
It's literally their email address dumbass.
this. gog is a shady fucking company who poses as "the good guy" but theyre just some fucking cunts like all the others.
let this garbage company sink.
I fully agree. As dev I wopluld state that I'm cool with piracy but would give people my PayPal so they can donate to me.
PayPal is a fucking middle men again though.
>buying an older game without checking pcg
its almost like you are retarded. weird.
What email address? Which email address? Do you think [email protected] is the address linked to the paypal account linked to the global bank account of the company?
How do you know if it's linked to a paypal account? Whose paypal account?
You don't.
>refund a DRM free unlocked game that you could’ve easily just copied onto some disc or external
It doesn’t work that way. There’s no way they can deprive you of access to the file once you have the file, they’d just have to take it on good faith that people uninstall the game, which is stupid. They’ll never be able to do refunds as long as they go the DRM free route.
Fuck off retard. If you're not going to take this seriously I'm not going to reply.
They are being dismissed. You can still read them if you dig, but they're not counting towards the rating of the game. Also if the people leaving negative reviews were a tiny fraction then this wouldn't be an issue in the first place. The fact that it's effective at all in the first place means it's not a tiny fraction. Every single post you make is either wrong or nonsensical. Stop sucking on corporate dick. Somebody else deciding for you whether your opinion is valid for other customers to see is bad for you as a customer. Full stop. You should not be endorsing this at all. Ever. Full stop. There were already tools in place to allow you to opt-in to only see reviews that you didn't think were valid and that was fine. Now Valve changed it so that now you need to opt-in to see the truth, which means the corrected record, the revisionist history is the default. This is not good for customers. You have no fucking idea why reviews are valuable in the first place because you're a brainless customer.
It seems pretty obvious to me that all the paid shit is going to be converted into marketable cosmetic shit when they do the eventual f2p relaunch. If the game was actually shutting down I could see it though. I'm going to guess they're going with a "all cards are free but shiny versions are paid" route, and I plan to sell a ton of cosmetics if that's the case.
>sells you a DRM-free game
>"hey it doesn't work"
>"sure, I'll refund you even though you have the game, and I can't take it back, I'm supposed to believe you"
SEETHING Schizo post.
The fuck do you want them to do? They’d be dead in the water if they offered refunds on DRM freee data. Any dude could just buy the game, put the file on torrent, and than return the game. It just doesn’t work with their system
>Yea Forumstards spam shitviews on steam over epic, to somehow get back at epic
>steam tired of this pointless shit, removes all shitviews after a certain day, both to avoid encouraging le internet slacticists into doing it at the drop of a hat, as well as avoid scaring away publishers by doing nothing about it
>Yea Forumstards: OMG DIS IS OPPRESSHUN
>cheered when they removed the chink translation shitviews and ruskie spam not even half a year ago
Like everything you tried on your life, you only made it worse, yet lack the reflection to understand that you were the nigger all along.
If we don't matter so much, why are you so butthurt about our right to express our opinions?
Checkmate.
You have no argument and you show it.
For example, I want to play Enter the Gungeon. I don't want to buy it on Steam or GoG, to what address do I send money? Any idea?
Of course not.
Mail them a check.
steam has been censoring user reviews for a long time where you not here for the Assassin's Creed Origins thing
>A corrupt system that misleads customers is worse than a blank slate.
Actually, I'm inclined to agree here. It's like Google's autocomplete function. While useful, the conspicuous absences say a lot.
This has to be the dumbest shit I've read all day.
I don't care that a bunch of retards got their panties in a twist because one of the devs of a game said something on twitter that they disagree with and decide that the best course of action is to shit on the goddamn review page of a game of all things
Except they censored the reviews for GTA5, what does that have to do with epic?
That's right, nothing.
>Mail them a check
Thanks grandpa.
I'm going to send a 5 USD check in another country and pay 3 USD for it.
No, wait. This post is.
Borderlands 2 and 1 got shat down by kids over borderlands 3 going to epic. With fantastic "reviews" such as the square pasta and general anti chink posts, not even bother to criticize the actual games.
Obviously, outside reddit and the chans, such behaviour gets you put in the shame corner, but zoomers raised on said site never learned that.
True, that had to do with 8ch trying to get GTA5, Witcher 3 and other mature games banned because of that weeb vn that was removed for 2 days. Same "quality" reviews and falseflags naturally, and very likely from the same people.
Utter bullshit. Review-bombs are organized attacks due to whatever reason, they are not legitimate reviews
Send them one of your new fangled bitcoins then, get of my lawn you whippersnapper.
Stop being retarded user. Look at Rome 2s bomb for example, it has like 254 reviews and that is undoubtedly an insignificant fraction of its playerbase. The thing is that people are, by nature, much more compelled to write a review about problems rather than over positives and so bombs can skew the score a lot.
The simple fact is that review bombs are not representative of the larger playerbase opinion as a whole.
Play edgy games, win edgy prizes
but steam is actually helping users to understand if a game is good or bad, without the shitposting about publisher
>honour system
>among the most spoiled subculture of modern internet
>hurrdurr Steam censorship is about Epic
Sure buddy.
GTA5 gained 20% good review score since the censorship started.
Because "shame" is a codeword that means "stop having opinions I don't like". Fuck your "shame". Your shame corner is completely artificial and holds no actual meaning beyond things that you find inconvenient.
The game is not being criticized, but the developer and the publisher are. A publisher being an evil piece of anti-consumer shit is a perfectly valid reason to not give them money.
>that had to do with 8ch trying to get GTA5
False, the bad reviews of GTA were because they banned mods.
Explain this:
Yes, that july 2017 dip seems natural and not suspicious at all
Review bombs are literally a handful of retards screaming very loud.
You just had to say the one thing that hurt /biz/ the most, didn't you?
Sure, it had nothing to do with this, unless we're refering to different events of shitspam
what happened in july? rockstar banned a bunch of people? or was that when they shut down single player mods for a bit?
>that july 2017 dip seems natural and not suspicious at all
It was when RockStar banned mods and random people online.
A lot of leftover reviews from a change that was already reversed.
>it had nothing to do with this
No it does not. Your picture is of May 2018.
The spike is in June 2017.
You're wrong.
there's nothing to explain, mods go against the license agreement. you can enjoy the game the-way-it's-meant-to-be-played just as before.
it's like the retards who get banned for cheating and then leave a negative review
I use reviews to learn about how a game is perceived
I do not give a shit about tertiary issues that people love to rave about
This is a good change
I think negative reviews are a good thing.
"Adhr1286" whose account was made minutes before posting his "trash sjw/nazi/homo/anti russian/Chinese/right/whatever" shit game" is however not a good way to go about being heard.
Can't deny that screeching retards can be a powerful force for Good tho.
Also a powerful force for Evil I suppose.
But eh, I think autism on the whole is a positive force, because if you don't care about what the normalfags find to be "offensive" or "inappropriate" then you can raise important issues that otherwise wouldn't be addressed. In between crying about sonic's arms, trap porn, and chicken tenders.
>company fanboyism
Fuck off OP. The only side Yea Forums is on is piracy.
Yeah, different event then. Either way, 8ch shitbombing was deleted as well, to the great offense of these brave warriors standing up to gamer rights.
Adhr1286 would have to buy the game to review it tho.
If your game has telemetry like Anthem or GTA 6, then even pirating it is harmful.
Explain this then
Only paying customers can leave a review, you know.
cringe, i'm unironically glad that steam made the change to filter shitposters
>FUCK PAYING CUSTOMERS AND THEIR OPINIONS
Yeah, you're a corporate shill.
my jimmies rustled a little when i saw how hard they tried to slip this shit by everyone.
>in a "steam" blog post, implying people who opt-out enjoy or partake in review bombing. Because valve knows whats best for me.
>hyperlink maybe 15 characters long to snap you to the page that has setting itself
sorry Valve, we know you know better than underhanded shit like an opt-out fucking service when you already use opt-in models for other things. But you took the inch so now i know you're ready to take the mile. Like other user said, traitor before enemy.
case in point
>review system allows players to give their opinion on a game
>people abuse system by bombing a game's score to troll
>Steam takes that feature away because you can't be trusted with it
I mean what were you expecting
I don't understand, Grimoire is a random dungeon crawling game, what does that have to do with SJW stuff?
Why did they refused to publish it?
>people abuse system by bombing a game's score to troll
Paying customers.
Not random people.
Trolls or not, customers are customers. They bought the game.
You're a book burner.
Explain this then (You)
>>Steam is now censoring user reviews
you mean those reviewbombs? those were shit anyway and only does harm
Sure, though he could also grab it cheap on a gray key site, or even grab a free key from the russian sites bot collecting them from discort and such (although naturally not refering to AAA games who cling to free keys with their lives).
However if he is genuine, all the more reason why he should put effort into why precisely whatever is bothering him instead of a poor 10 word shitpost.
It's the exact same reason i detest meme posititive "reviews" of shitty poorly made meme games.
Rather than defending their 1st amendment rights, gamers should focus on defending their 2nd.
As of right now, there is no way to fight back against someone seizing a game that YOU paid for. Someone can take your games by tyrannical force simply because you said "women over the age of 15 are not important and can be safely ignored" or "gas the kikes race war now". You can't shoot the admins in the face, so they are free to infringe your rights without any fear or consequence, and so your right to game means nothing.
Until innocent gamers have force parity with the tyranny of admins, moderators and unjust votekicks, then gamers' rights might as well be toilet paper.
How are you going to defend your free speech? By threatening to not buy future products? You're threatening to do -nothing-? Real fuckin scary there, dumbass. No, you need a way to fight back.
What we need is a gun that can hit targets on the other side of the internet. Then maybe they'll think twice before pulling that bans for toxicity bullshit.
Does it have males in action or leadership roles? That's masculine toxicity right there.
Explain this then
>people calling steam removing review bombing comments as censorship
>as opposed to Epic having literally nothing in terms of consumer feedback.
I just don't get the GTA fanaticism. Is there really anything that justifies paying 30 bucks for a 4 year old game? Does it offer anything different from GTA 3, VC, SA, or IV aside from online (which just seems like a money pit)?
>hey it could be worse, therefore censorship is okay
>grimoire
Really? Those cucks defend an autistic retard whose buggy game breaking bugs stops everyone dead in the track, with multiple mechanism either being faulty or outright not working at all like several stats? The guy who promised to send out physicals along with an in-depth manual explaining everything the game did not, then told everyone to fuck off as if he was Phil Fish? That's the guy they chose to defend?
You're free to use your free speech goyim, as long as you use it responsibly.
Don't be irresponsible and you have nothing to fear.
>who decides what is irresponsible and what is valid?
That is a very irresponsible question. This discussion has been closed.
Sue Valve if you're so certain free speech was violated.
>"why yes, i agree to the terms of service and that i will be banned if i use mods"
>uses mods
>gets banned
>"WTF ROCKSTAR! STOP FUCKING PAYING CUSTOMERS!!! M-MM-MUH OPINION!!!"
kys
review-bombs highlight a particular complaint people dislike sometimes.I agree they are not legitimate reviews. However
>DRM killing optimisation of game (fps, bugs, what have you)
is also not a legitimate complaint to valve now. Just fucking because.
i would want to know if DRM did actually hurt the performance of the software, and i would hold off bookmark it and wait for a fix, or not spend my money because there never is a fix. What information does valve censor for the producers?
They changed their policy quick after getting review cucked.
Hmm.
Would this work? I'd be down for this but you can't just sue someone because they were a rights-infringing asshole, they have to have done something specific that has been written into law as illegal, and that's not the same thing as infringing your rights.
that's one more reason to filter old reviews since they don't apply to the game anymore
>censorship
Its not like they're even deleted, they're just marked as off-topic and don't affect the overall review score. You can go and check out what was written before.
You're the kind of guy yelling at people because they don't read the ToS, huh.
Your opinion is cordially discarded.
>Would this work?
No, Valve is a private service, not a public one.
Free Speech only applied to the state, not private entities.
>You're free to use your free speech goyim, as long as you use it responsibly.
yeah? that's how it works. Steam removing troll reviews is not an infringement of your right of free speech lol, that's like saying a mod deleting your post is doing the same thing
Every TOS I open, I ctrl+F "bully" "harass" and "racis" to see if they have shit against bullying, harassment/harassing, and racism/racists.
If they do, no buy.
Or I buy it, and refund it immediately saying my purchase was a mistake.
i never read tos, but i'm not surprised if i get banned for doing something against it
grow up
>Steam removing troll reviews is not an infringement of your right of free speech lol
Yes it is, because I have a right to leave troll reviews if I so wish, as that is an expression of my views and beliefs and to block said expression is an infringement of my rights.
>that's like saying a mod deleting your post is doing the same thing
SHALL
>Yes it is, because I have a right to leave troll reviews
you can't, because by using steam reviews you are automatically accepting steam's tos
Freedom of speech does not apply to private spaces. In fact, it would be a violation of Valve's freedom of speech if they were not allowed to choose what they are allowed to host and not host on their platform.
>problem arises
>Spaghetti
>retract feature
only the second thing has happened. spew your misinformation elsewhere. THEY should have known.
Mmmm these boots are delicious! Let me lick them some more.
If you believe your actions are just and virtuous, and someone bans you for them, then their act of banning you was unjust and evil. You shouldn't just accept injustice and evil.
>but they have a right to ban me
Yes they do. And you should not be okay with that.
not only review bombs, anything about DRM is on the list too regardless if the complaint is legitimate
>i have no idea how freedom of speech works
>Freedom of speech does not apply to private spaces.
It is a universal right. What you are mistakenly doing is saying that 1A only restricts the government. But 1A is not the same as freedom of speech.
Basically steam implemented a way to not show off-topic review bombs like the Borderlands case in the overall review score of a game (pic related)
You can personally deactivate this if you want to see all reviews affecting the overall score.
>If you believe your actions are just and virtuous, and someone bans you for them, then their act of banning you was unjust and evil. You shouldn't just accept injustice and evil.
cringe and bluepilled, opinion discarded
Who said I believe in freedom of speech?
I believe in freedom of GAMERS.
Fuck roasties, fuck kikes, fuck Steam, and fuck Epic too.
You don't get to say whatever you like in another's home and call it a violation of freedom of speech when you get kicked out. Same thing goes with valve's servers.
>''wtf I didn't know stealing was illegal''
>umm maybe read the law?
>''OH YOU'RE ONE OF THOSE WHO TELL ME TO READ THE LAW HUH? WELL FUCK YOU YOU'RE RETARDED''
they can literally emulate the steam platform so software can be ran "through" it. We can recreate it -provided multiplayer servers. But i agree focus should be elsewhere, nail in the coffin is all the users have checked the box, the box takes away our rights immediately. For being a part of the system
>it is a universal right
And Valve deciding what content they will and won't host on their site is them exercising their own freedom of speech.
If you are -invited into their home- and then -kicked out because of your speech- then yes, yes it is. Obviously.
They are not obligated to invite you into their home.
Let's suppose you have a somewhat expensive laptop computer, and you leave it in their bathroom.
They say you are not allowed to access their bathroom anymore unless you pay them a $100 fee.
Is this extortion? You'd most likely say yes.
Why? Because you have a right to your property and access to the bathroom is necessary to retrieve said property.
Expression carries the same fundamental protection.
>Yes it is, because I have a right to leave troll reviews if I so wish
no you don't
Based.
GOG has always been my main guy, but they don't have every game I want.
Because developers/publishers STILL somehow hold on to the idea that piracy will cost them money and GOG has no DRM so that obviously means they will lose money by going there.
I wish the people making games weren't this retarded.
oh yeah somebody better pull me off valve i have them in a full body lock.
>It is a universal right
no it's not
Oh okay then.
Well then I don't believe in freedom of speech anymore.
I believe in freedom of troll reviews. Fuck valve.
Steam isn't censoring anything. The reviews simply don't count towards the total rating. The reviews themselves are completely preserved.
I've never given a flying fuck about which platform I use to start my games. Why would anyone? Who cares
Some of those platforms will mysteriously stop working if you start a propaganda campaign smearing the host company. Even if the host company totally deserves it. Are you okay with that? Because I'm not.
Gog is basically a donations platform where you donate money to a company whose games you can already get for free at this point.
i agree but its not because of free speech though its because they own the service. imposing the feature in the manner it was done and straight up drawing a line in the cement about talking DRM is the problem.
What happened to common sense? Why do everyone act antagonistic to the extreme, then jump on the high horse insulted when someone ask them to leave?
If you want to be able to play your games without the risk of a shutdown, then get a console. Of course, they don't leave much room for reviews, either.
Because antagonism is the proper response to tyranny, dumbass.
and you're welcome to view them if you opt out
They're censoring the real user review score.
Or you could just emulate.
Given how the Xbone and the PS4 have online authentication now, you can be locked out of them. I don't think anyone has been, but you potentially could be.
>I've never given a flying fuck about which platform I use to start my games
Good for you
>Why would anyone?
Because I'm the consumer and I decide what I want to use, not the company. I want a user friendly launcher that doesn't blatantly disrespect its customers. I also don't want bloatware and/or a botnet.
And yes, the solution is simple. I will not buy games that are on EGS. Simple as that. Will it matter? I don't know. I hope enough people think like I do and EGS and publishers going there exclusively lose a lot of money.
>Who cares
I do
Yes, let's replace antagonists with antagonists but dumber. That always worked so well for banana republics and junta states
"Game sucks, don't play it 0/10" is a review
ASCII art of a butt pooping on the words "EPIC STORE" is not a review
If only there was a convenient button
Literally all of those shit are fixed. I don' know why use that retarded argument when old cRPG all have that problem and still sold no prob on GoG.
They're not censoring. They're giving the review based on the merits of the game. Off-topic reviews have nothing to do with the game.
Besides, you can still uncheck the feature (which I did).
It may be common sense to know that if you challenge a tyrant's power and his right to abuse his subjects, he's going to not like that and he's going to try to shut you down.
That doesn't mean you should avoid it.
It also doesn't mean it's your own fault. That is blaming the victim for being abused.
I do agree that being asked to leave shouldn't be the final straw though. That final straw should've broken well before.
> let's replace antagonists with antagonists but dumber.
Fine by me.
its because it was IMPOSED as OPT-OUT as in NIGGA i KNOW you have a right to fuck with my settings because i checked the god forsaken box, but that doesnt mean i have to like it, you dont fuck with a man's settings without his consent. THATS the problem
>They're giving the review based on the merits of the game
On their subjective opinion of what constitutes the merits of the game.
Thus discarding the subjective opinion of what constitutes the merits of the game according to paying customers.
Thus putting the publisher before the paying customer.
> I want a [games as service model] that doesn't blatantly disrespect its customers.
Good fucking luck, son. By accepting games as service, you're already disrespecting yourself and saying that you're gullible and trusting.
You can't buy most of the latest AAA games on GOG because publishers prefer Steam's light DRM. That's why it's not the biggest.
Pretty sure you'd have to be assed to pay for online in order for it to even be a debate. I mean, why would they do it if you are never online?
>ASCII art of a butt pooping on the words "EPIC STORE" is not a review
Yes it is.
It's saying the game is bad because the next game is exclusive to the epic store.
Saying the game is bad is a review.
The reviews weren't removed though
Literally nothing is happening and some idiots are throwing a fit.
If i owned steam i would do the same to control organized groups actions towards products on my store.
The reviews are not deleted. They simply dont add to score by default and can this can be changed.
Move on.
You'd think that the people who consider review bombs as credible reviews is the type to keep up with any and all changes and thus still would simply tick a fucking box to keep his status quo.
Or they're one burst tards who stops caring after venting their little internet drama, going to sleep knowing "Heh, I've done my part"
they have been my go to place since 2011.
I just pirate everything else that is not available there with zero fucks given.
fuck all the other digital kikes. Especially that lard sweating fatpig.
GOG is the only place where you trully own the games you purchased because they all come with the complete game installer you can just download and burn onto a cd/dvd.
Steam&Co. are digital kikefucks who only sell you licenses to download the trash from their servers without the option to make personal backups of your entire library. You will always need their kikefuck launcher with your non-banned account to get these games to run. Once they revoke your license/ban your account/eat shit and die you are shit out of luck.
The overall review score was censored though
Probably as a means to enforce anti-piracy or someshit, I dunno. More likely it's a way to measure what times of day you use the device and what types of games you play so you can be better sold ads.
DRM that is known to cause problems in game is now considered off-topic. And technically since they so kindly turned this new feature on without my consent they technically did censor things. unchecking the box fixes it but i dont need to be told what to think, and get the fuck out of and away from my personal account where my credit card information and shit is. it was underhanded, that is not an argument.
>It's saying the game is bad because the next game is exclusive to the epic store.
The quality of a game being reviewed has absolutely nothing to do with the availability of a different game.
It's a Nothingburger, amirite?
People should just go back to their daily lives?
It's all so tiresome, isn't it?
Nah fuck off.
I haven't really noticed any ads on my PS4.
if the company can keep me happy by simply not adding shit we consumers never asked for why not?
this user understands part of the problem
>common shitposters being upset that their garbage posts are getting filtered
These threads are just like the wordfilter ones
>However if he is genuine, all the more reason why he should put effort
Why should he?
Yes it is.
The same developers make both games
The developers have decided to publish the game on a platform that does not allow user reviews.
This indicates they are not comfortable with reviews, possibly because they do not want their users to have opinions.
This means the developers are not okay with users expressing their opinions, and thus not okay to listening to users' opinions.
Thus they are bad developers.
These are the same developers that made the first game.
If the first game is made by bad developers, then that is a good argument for it being a shit game.
Not that any of this needs to be justified, of course. If a person thinks the game is shit they need not justify why.
If they think it's good they need to justify it tho. They could just have bad taste.
Agreed, but there's not really an alternative right now. I buy as much as I can on GOG, but it doesn't have all the games I want. I also pirate a lot of games, but sometimes I just want to support the devs (like with RoR2). RoR2 on steam makes it incredibly easy to play with friends.
Also, Steam has to be the most trustworthy 'games as a service' platforms out there. I contacted them on multiple occassions about being worried my games would be gone if they ever shut down, and they always reassured me that you won't lose access to your games if they ever shut down. They would provide you with an ability to download the games in your library.
If that's true is another thing, but I trust them on that for now.
However, I do no trust any other store one bit. I'm probably biased in that sense, but that's irrelevant. I don't WANT to go to EGS, unless they do things better than Steam. If they're going to force me to go there by literally buying exclusivity, then I'll just boycott them.
And wordfilters as well as standard filters need to be removed from Yea Forums. It's my right as a customer here that people read my posts
Reviews should have a 2000 word minimum limit and use the robot script
Me neither since I don't have a PS4
>if the company can keep me happy
Companies do not keep you happy. You are happy by default and companies take actions which take your happiness away.
It's really tyrannic oppression and everyone who disagrees is a corporate bootlicker drone shill
They’re not gonna give you any meaningful amount of income
This but ironically and with the exception that if people are ENJOYING things then people should be held to a higher standard and censored if it turns out they are enjoying garbage, such as "trap" or "futa" shit, or games without a custom server browser.
I do. They include apps that I don't use, like PS Now (or whatever that TV service is called), as well as some other stuff, but I just shoved it all in a folder the first time I started it up, and I've never seen anything since. It's about the best you could hope for, shy of absolutely no bloatware icons (you can delete the apps, but the icons remain, if memory serves).
Hold the fuck up, are they, the ones most upset about banning reviews now defending the guy who went on a ban hammer frenzy on steam community over anyone asking for refund, complaining about bugs or the state of the game, the missing manual or otherwise didn't solely praise him?
Is this what constitutes as lack of self awareness?
Does ironically agreeing with an ironic statement turn it back into a genuine opinion, like a double negative?
Steam forces a new feature on its entire userbase not using an opt-in system. And sliding the announcement of said feature hard as a motherfucker.
>but you can opt out
yeah im glad i fucking caught it before you fucked off. its very pushy and bad business manner. make the announcement huge, make the feature opt-in not opt-out. and you dont look like a damn snake
Only if you unironically believe it
nice
>Steam
>Ever fucking "user oriented"
Maybe it could be said to be self-righteous over-consuming basement-dwelling shut-in elitist oriented, but I never fucking felt catered to as a user.
>believing that "genuine" opinions exist
That's the real irony here desu.
The Soul and the Self are not genuine. They are merely the last layer of irony in the joke that is our lives.
>buy a bike to ride
>replace handles for better handling
>month later sellse updates their EULA that I cannot use 3rd party handlers
>bike confiscated for unlawful modification of your own stuff
>go to jail
I see this in the future lads, it's coming soon enough
Why would I be mad steam cleans up reviews intended to shitpost, whine about politics or is le funneh meme guy? I expect the same from the janitors and mod here.
Yeah because it has to be an evil scheme always.
Say you own Steam and this happens. Would you just let it be unchecked? Would you sail like you said? Honestly.
The difference is, that should someone try to take your bike from you, you will FIGHT BACK. with WEAPONS.
Not sure if retarded, or just pretending. You don't buy a license to use the bike from the bike shop.
Actually, yes, that's how vessel industry works. If you modify your car, and the manufacturer finds out it may cause issues down the road over safety, they can indeed force you to change it back. Hell, that's why you're not allowed to "mod" your moped, zoomey
It's already true for farmers. There have been various news how they don't even have the right to repair the machines they buy.
What if you're in the UK? Unlicensed bikes are a big problem. People might use the bike paths without paying their rightful upkeep, or they might have a bike that is a danger to themselves or others. It'd be irresponsible to let them own such a bike.
Don't mess with gamers...
fine in black in white for you you fucking dense cunt.
im paying for a service you provide, here is my money, now provide service. Thank you
vs
you are fucking adding QoL changes to reviews and THE ONLY WAY you can deploy it is to forcibly impose the new feature, instead of explaining why the fuck i want to use it in the first place and encouraging users to opt-in.
fuck off, im a paying customer i dont have many rights but there are some i do have. That ToS cuts both ways motherfucker so keep tampering.
The manufacturer does nothing, what cucked country do you live in?
>that's why you're not allowed to "mod" your moped, zoomey
Try and stop me.
I slapped a BLUE FLAME decal on it. That encourages me to go LIGHTNING FAST and ONLY SOMETIMES RESPECT SPEED LIMITS.
>fine in black in white for you you fucking dense cunt.
That is all I ask. Thank you.
I now understand the point you are making.
But I can't help but notice that you paid money -up front- in exchange for an -ongoing- service. That can very easily bite you in the ass.
>Steam is now censoring user reviews
Steam is stepping in on shit flinging doubleniggers misusing the service. Yes, that's actually what's happening.
>blue
>faster
oh shit user what are you doing
Germany
Shit flinging doubleniggers aren't a misuse of the service. They are the service. People who AREN'T shit flinging doubleniggers are misusing the service. Fuck 'em. I say censor any reviews that are ON-topic.
>less money than they’d receive from a sale
>if they receive cash in the mail, they can’t cheque it to the company
>won’t have a paypal unless super small
Good plan chief.
>oh shit user what are you doing
Blue flames are hotter than Red flames.
That means it goes even faster than red.
Plus my moped is Red to begin with, I can't slap a red decal on a red moped!
...
OR CAN I?
You've just given me a very dangerous idea, user! and I thank you for it.
They can issue a warning to workshops, and if the mechanics don't do anything about it (on your bill) they get fined/shut down, and if it is proven dangerous, you'll get all the blame in an accident. Even if someone literally rammed into your backside while drunk and high (though they get punished for DUI and recless driving too)
Perhaps these rules don't apply in Africa, Asia besides japan/Korea and Russia though.
Somebody stop this man.
That's a institution called TUV then not the manufacturer upholding regulations. I've seen your pimp my ride copy. As long as they allow it you can drive whatever on the road. There was also a crazy kid who moded a moped to drive 160km/h and was allowed on the street because of some legal fuckery using an antique frame. Fucking retarded laws for the win.
>people come and buy games
>but I don't like their opinions
>fuck their opinions
Gog is on its last legs, the store generated something like 12 cents of income last year.
I am jealous of said moped.
I dunno, kid died on the way back to his town
see unlike other parts of the world the internet does actually have standards. Most of them are automated protocols and nonsense and others are just good ol quality standards. When you are such an awesome bro to me for so long, and other features have been opt-in. But no this particular feature you had to cross the line in privacy. I now know bro, you are willing to do this again if you havent already. and that makes me uneasy.
This feature was asked for by producers/devs not consumers. consumers than learn about it are going to have 1 question now, all of them, how do i turn it off? I cant into computer. I would've offered it as an opt-in and rewarded users who did instead of crossing the line of privacy.
see you think you know what my bias is, that im attacking, no im telling you how this happened and how impersonal it was. and working in the industry myself (we could go on about ISPs but im sure they have no evil plans) amplified those feelings.
>I don't know when or where to express my opinions so I let them go somewhere they doesn't belong like a child that hasn't been toilet trained.
I want that moped. I want to place a Red Skull decal and a Red Coffin decal on it, and then put flames on the coffin and the skull.
The coffin and skull will show that I am a badass and that death does not deter me, it instead gives me a boner. And the flames will make the moped even faster.
Different posters
So source?
Standards mean nothing without use. Many standards died right after release by nobody using them because everyone silently agreed they were bad.
That moped was a wireframe ultralight built. No place for big decorations. That's why it could go so fast - he used some antique frame so it was legally not under new regulations and slammed a modern oversized engine on it with nothing else to weight it down and limit speed. i wouldn't be suprised if he actually died at some point on the highway. It looked not much different to colin furzes build.
> No place for big decorations.
I am significantly less jealous now.
>now
GOG was always the best retard
yeah and aint it bitchin how i can emulate the platform to access the software anyway? That has its own risks as well does it not? Its the same song and dance with ISPs. Why exactly do i need steam to play the games i payed full price for anyway? Quality assurance. Fuck that shit, give it to me OOB and i will get back to you within 2 hours if i have a problem. You are the guy who gets me the games, for multiplayer, i understand i need your servers, for anything else, its fucking intrusive.
tell the grot its yellow not red!
thats not true
en.wikipedia.org
educate yourself you mong, you dont even know how this shit works let alone any legal ramifications that would come with anyone doing anyting online
the fuck would i lie to you son? im trying to inform people
steamcommunity.com
>Q: I care about some things that I worry other players don't, like DRM or EULA changes. Review bombs have been about them in the past. Do you consider them unrelated or off-topic?
>A: We had long debates about these two, and others like them. They're technically not a part of the game, but they are an issue for some players. In the end, we've decided to define them as off-topic review bombs.
delivered
>a link to etf
>no argument
brilliant
microsoft didn't follow standards with internet explorer for over 15 years and you still have no fully standartized css&js between browsers. You know fuck all but think linking wikipedia means you have something to say. No you don't.
Learn to pirate, jeez
Exactly this.
This.
I have more than 1000 games on steam and If I lost them all tomorrow I would only be mildly disappointed. I only care about keeping the games I am currently playing
>are you scared of dying too
>like DRM or EULA changes
That means sudden changes, not "anything about DRM"
I understand your intent, but your interpretation just doesn't seem to be correct.
>Our reasoning is that the "general" Steam player doesn't care as much about them, so the Review Score is more accurate if it doesn't contain them. In addition, we believe that players who do care about topics like DRM are often willing to dig a little deeper into games before purchasing - which is why we still keep all the reviews within the review bombs. It only takes a minute to dig into those reviews to see if the issue is something you care about.
wrong
the fuck does the IETF have to do with java and css. they HTML you crock of shit. it was all built on standards and alot of people started doing their own projects all at once. Bill gates said the internet was the most important thing since the IBM and would be for fucking decades diving microsoft into this hot. Im not discrediting benefits of java or css or the lack of fully standardized shit. They chose HTML i cant change that. Tim Berners-Lee, created it at CERN and a formal specification is RFC1866
the rest is history period
here is also one better. educate yourself, educate others.
loc.gov
It's really sad to see that valve doesn't understand the problems of their own platform and are capitulating to the "problems" epic is dictating to them instead. I think it's obvious curation, communication, and consistency are steams problems. Outspoken users are braindead sycophants on average but we all want their money and letting them publish meaningless reviews is a good way to let that frustration vent. Review bombing doesn't happen for small reasons either. Steam has too many shitty garbage games that drown quality products in their market visibility. These games also probably clog up the support lines and keep staff extremely busy. Steam can't decide on what the curation rules should be either. To top it off Steam rarely communicates enough with developers or users probably thanks to the previous reasons. We all would rather be spending money at a private american corporation. It's just obvious there can be a more advantageous way to set things up. A great business needs great people dedicated to specific tasks they can excel in accomplishing. As it stands there's little transparency on problems that arise and the sentiment within valve is clearly not ambivalence like fans want to believe. They're scared to voice opinions or thoughts because of what customers might say which is understandable but a poor excuse to not even try. You can tackle problems objectively and people will be more inclined to see you in a positive light. I think probably one of the best things Valve can do is just ignore the mountain of bait being set by Epic's paid shills and start trying to be more open with customers whether developer or player. Gaben can't always be the only familiar face of Valve or a last resort to calm a situation before another long period of radio silence. The biggest fuck you to Tencent that could come from Valve is to outright ignored them while Valve improves the quality of service to their customers and starts to communicate more.
meant to say TCP/IP built on standards not HTML because it was open mark up
What do you want from me, a telegram dancer?
the threat is steam users not epic or any shit they're flinging. although i guess you dont want people seeing shit being thrown at you. There is just no will at Valve to make steam be anything other than what it has been. and any real action taken will get flak because "dafuq you coulda made hl3"
I mean it's happening at the same time Epic is taking an explicitly anti-consumer/pro-publisher stance paying people to nitpick that user reviews are allowed on Steam. Valve suddenly changing something in response to media has been a common theme so it's clear people care about the bullshit being weaved online about Valve. Most of which right now is instigated by Epic. I think you're right about the lack of ambition to make steam better though. Angry users were ignorable already with the review graph feature so I really think this is Valve's capitulation to Ebin paid media pressure.
> GoG
No steam no buy.
All their games are designed around working on all new versions of Windows including 10.
If it doesn't work you literally can get a refund, but chances are it was your fault.
If you like a Steam game then just play it on the Switch
gog.com
GOG are literally our guys.
Even Steam doesn't care this much about cloud saves.
i dont know about any epic bullshit but if those paid complaints consist of the way this new system was implicated, i'd be using the shills to popularize my opinions on the matter. Traitor first
It was an example how standards are not upheld. Are you that stupid to not get it? And html wasn't correctly implemented by everyone either. Everyone had their special tags while ignoring some standard specifications.
tcpip was only followed because it was necessary to communicate but even there plenty made their own protocols. The whole thing is no different to language. You can have a dictionary but you can't force everyone to speak using it. All the ghetto kids will take a dump on you.
They are hardly censoring them.
>your opinion as paying customer is not the wished one, we will therefore not count them for the overall review score
It's as if you could vote but your vote wasn't taken into account.
You clearly have not read the thread, shill.
fuck for enjoying me being so black and white you could have shared the same courtesy. I see what you are getting at now, and while i agree with -most- of it, you paint it out that no standard has ever been upheld and if it had it had no beneficial affect to the development of anything absolutely. Sorry user
id like to see /g/ react to this picture
Underrated post. The absolute truth.
Here’s how I get through life:
>wait for game to be cheap unless I desperately want it
>Play game
>complain about game on Yea Forums and go back to Thief
Honestly, who the fuck cares who is providing you cheap shit as long as it’s cheap. If any of the companies go under you’re fucked anyway, except GoG I guess.
Gog accepts even less controversy than steam. As of now even with all the censorship Steam is still the most lenient store.
Nah, GoG doesn't have the games and that's literally the only thing that matters.
i agree with first panel UNLESS theres some epic level (pun intended) jewery going on with buying exlusives and Epic making sure the dev makes money even if they dont, thus paying for my pirated copy. THANKS CHINA
>the market has failed
Companies have to choose to release on GoG for people to buy games on GoG. There was no market to begin with.
have sex
>da customah is always right
Okay, enjoy your steam library with all those future 10/10 pro Chinese games
GOG should have been your main guy to begin with. That's unless you enjoy renting games instead of owning them.
They're also in financial trouble, so get as much shit as you can.
>The epic launcher could be pretty good competition to steam so they'll finally improve
Good joke. It might make Steam improve, but they aren't really even close to competition with double digit games available and no features. People will just launch it to play X exclusive game then go back to Steam, just like bethesda launcher, Uplay, Origin, etc. One exception is probably Blizzard Launcher because blizzdrones tend to only play Blizzard games.
>Tencent can't take user data
Maybe not but Epic can, and give it to them
>review bombing the borderlands series and metro on steam
They are making their voices heard, potential buyers will be aware that the sequels will not be purchasable on the same storefront so might be turned away, not just from the "negative or mixed" status. Also Valve will take this information in and could cause them to improve.
>epic better cut
Benefits the end user how? How about instead of charging the same price and only taking 13% cut, work it out so that the devs get more money than on Steam, you get your 13% of full price equivalent, and the games are slightly cheaper?
>epic launcher is the result of capitalism
Yeah and? So will its failure
I will never understand why the concept of what actual "censorship" and "free speech" is that third worlders larping as Americans is so damn hard for them. These brownies and slavs seem to really struggle with the very idea and thus has developed some nebulous catch all version of it in their minds.
Steam gives you the choice between full user reviews, or just the user reviews actually relevant to the game.
Epic is a piece of shit.
Still, use gog.
Launchers? Steam? GoG? EPIC GAYMER MOMENTS? na bro, just forget it all and play games
>steam drones still seething at companies not sucking valve dick
And you call others bootlickers LOL
>emulates console games because PC sucks
lol
>he plays single player games
Ew, try reddit.
There is a * icon next to censored review scores and if you hover over it it gives you the option to deactivate.
>spam retarded gibberish and insults
>get shitpost review removed
>WTF MY FREE SPEECH HOW DARE YOU????
It's not the case for GTA5.
uuuuuuh i am practicing my free speech???????
You're retarded, reviews are not removed, they are just not taken into account for the overall score of the game.
You're obviously not even aware of what is going on, why do you even post?
Even if it this was true, whats your point? I can play either console or PC games for free
i know im going to buy cyberpunk on it when it comes out, and ive already started buying my games on it rather than steam.
paying for a 5k dollar pc is not free lol
I mean, sure, your parents paid it for you but you get my point.
>5k dollar pc
The absolute state of console plebs.
oh you mean you have a pc from last decade to play your minecraft clones and virtual novels?
haha yikes
>Just pirate everything
And hand your PC to a Russian botnet.
What did the mongoloid mean by this?
>retard exaggerating as per usual
Doesn't even deserve a response but I'll humor it. It makes much more sense to buy a good PC from the start and get games for free VS buy a plebs box and having to pay $70 per game + online per year.
>Hehehe fuck Borderlands I'm gonna pirate it teheheh
Alright I'll just ban you
>NOOOOOOO YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO THINK I'M COOL! DON'T BAN ME BORDERCHAD AAAAAAAAAAAA THIS'LL MAKE YOU LOOK BAD EVEN THOUGH I'M THE ONE ACTING LIKE A CU-CKOLD AAAAAAAAAAAAA
>are you scared of dying too
Everyone is by our nature you fucking mongoloid lmao
seeing the shitflinging over reviewbombing was entertaining so fuck steam
>get as much shit as you can
I did. Did you?
Because otherwise it discredits the system of user reviews. When you can't tell the difference between a literal shitposter, and some guy who just hate something, people stop taking negative reviews seriously
fucking mad lol
enjoy your non-existent games
Whoa, look at all those old games I already own!
What a fucking cuck. That's plain embarassing.
>doesn't actualy own shit
Great contribution to the thread, champ.
Who are you quoting?
>Steam is now censoring user reviews and is becoming way less user-oriented than it used to be
Maybe stop review bombing and abusing it and maybe they won't censor you dumbass.
That's retarded then.
>discord
Who gives a fuck.
You already own Bloodlines 2?
>inb4 i bought it on steam
So you don't own it. You're just renting it.
please don't tell me what to do sweaty!
>Who gives a fuck.
Only literal retards say this
>your opinion as a paying customer is irrelevant if I don't approve of it
>Make review with literally no time spent on it
>Review explains some irrelevant shit that's not really about the game's quality
>Refund it to get money back
>???
>PROFIT
Really tickles my gears.
>Borderlands reviews are an equivalent of GAMERS RISE UP!!!!
>almost every other Steam review page is just a bunch of cringy fucks trying to outquip each other like they're on r*ddit
Yeah those are a pretty irrelevant "opinions" desu
>opinion
>i don't like said opinion, therefore it's not an opinion
> Not realizing that preparing for death and stop being afraid of it is one of the core human responsabilities during life.
Sooner or later this crackdown on piracy and overboard distribution plarforms must generate a feedback response.
Eventually we will go back to private forum based piracy for everything. Maybe then, good quality fansub of things can come back too.
>literally not a single review in that screencap is an opinion about the game
Wanna try that again
>Eventually we will go back to private forum based piracy for everything
Wrong.
Pirate bay it still up, public, and you can find all games on it.
>own
LOL
this is literally illegal practise in EU.
The paying customer deemed it relevant.
You deem it irrelevant.
Why should your opinion on what is relevant overrule their opinion?
If I don't deem ASCII cartoon of a man shitting itself relevant, would relevancy police come and take me to relevancy jail? See I can write meme arguments as well.
So is self-defense. I agree that opt-out censorship is garbage, but so is your reasoning.
>If I don't deem ASCII cartoon of a man shitting itself relevant, would relevancy police come and take me to relevancy jail?
No, you're entitled to your own opinion, however wrong you may be.
Why can't you tolerate other people's opinions and way of expression?
reviews are supposed to help someone understand whether they will enjoy it or not
if the reviews are used to protest something completely unrelated to the quality of a game, they aren't doing this
example of relevant to quality:
- recent update makes a game good
- recent update makes a game shit
- game was shit from the get-go
examples of not relevant to quality:
- sequel being sold on chink spyware store
- game's values do not mesh with glorious people's communist party of china
>So is self-defense
AKHTUALLY, I live in France, and self-defense is acceptable if the defense is following AND proportionate to the attack.
Therefore, if someone stab me, I can stab him too after.
But it's illegal to carry knives, and if I took his knife, he would not be in position to stab me anymore, so it would be illegal anyway.
But still, my point holds, checkmate atheist.
>reviews are supposed to help someone understand whether they will enjoy it or not
I disagree. For me they help me determine if I want to make the purchase or not.
Even if the game looks fun, if I scroll down to the reviews and see that the publisher is pro-chingchong Epic, I WON'T buy the game, so the review was in fact very relevant for me in order to make my purchase.
You do not have a monopoly on determining what is relevant or not.
if you are the kind of person who allows things other than the quality of a video game to determine their enjoyment with a video game, feel free to opt-in. for 99% of people this kind of noise is not useful to their purchasing decision.
Copy pasting tits onto a games review isn't an "opinion" frank.
Just more bread and circus for you faggots. And in the end you won't have changed shit, nor care because something new caught your eyes.
>bullshit limits on self defense
>bullshit limits on your opinion
Seems that the situations are a little more congruent than I originally thought.
I love gog. I used their shit for piracy for a long time but now I've probably spent 2 or 3 hundred on the site.
>if you are the kind of person who allows things other than the quality of a video game to determine their enjoyment with a video game
No, but the purchase, yes.
I never buy SJW games, but sometimes I pirate them and have fun.
>for 99% of people this kind of noise is not useful to their purchasing decision
If it was 99%, there wouldn't be SO MUCH people doing bomb reviews now, would there.
It's relevant to a lot of people. See the 20% bad reviews on GTA5 talking about the company behavior.
And that's why I pirated GTA5 too.
AKHTUALLY you're free to give your opinion, but if it offends people, you'll have to endure the legal ramifications.
GOG is based.
>DRM free
>installers
>optional launcher
>goodies
>you actually feel good for buying a game and you don't feel used
>Steam and Epic Store has spyware
>You don't actually own any of these digital copies
>Pirate game for free
>Getting your computer installed with crypto mining software
Nothing is truly free assholes!
>buying games that have no DRM
omegalul
>>Pirate game for free
>>Getting your computer installed with crypto mining software
This never happens if you have an IQ over 90.
If you're literally retarded, go on TPB and only download from skulled users.
>Paying CDPR
What, you thought the old devs got money for their work?
Enjoy your outdated games when the Devs don't give a fuck about it. Meanwhile their main priority is their Steam platform and they get all the recent updates
>Great game, loved every second of it'
Is a review
>Trusting Skull users
Oh boy. I got some bad news for you.. You can't trust them either. But you don't know anything on how nu-pirates work now, huh? There's always a reason why they give out free games.
>seething steam cucks
Most people do not feel strongly enough about politics or other outside information to decide not to purchase a game they would otherwise enjoy. If they're looking at a game in a store, the only thing they want to know is if the game is good.
>It's relevant to a lot of people. See the 20% bad reviews on GTA5 talking about the company behavior.
The ones talking about bans for single player mods, among other things? That doesn't really have anything to do with what I'm talking about, then, does it? That's absolutely relevant to the game.
Are you contesting the claim that the old devs don't get shit for their work? That you're literally paying a middle man pocketing the money himself?
>That's absolutely relevant to the game.
Yet it was swooped away by the new Steam rule.
>Most people do not feel strongly enough about politics or other outside information to decide not to purchase a game
Yes a LOT of people do those reviews. So they care.
Just because you don't care doesn't mean you can silence them all.
>Most people do not feel strongly enough about politics or other outside information to decide not to purchase a game they would otherwise enjoy. If they're looking at a game in a store, the only thing they want to know is if the game is good.
Wrong. If the developers are SJW's it's a shit game. If their political beliefs align with their customer it's automatically GOTY
Why are there so many bootlickers literally lapping up these soulless mammonistic companies caked urine and fecal matter?
I am paying for the better game delivery you retard. Devs get paid while they are making the games.
Yeah, I'm literally SEETHING that I get free games from GOG L M A O
>Implying these big corporations are after your well being and wanting to be your friend
>Not realizing it's a business
Clearly you self-entitled manchild thinks you got this all figured out
>paying for delivery
Jesus christ look at this tech illiterate boomer
>That you're literally paying a middle man pocketing the money himself?
It's not just a middle man. Steam is a great place for exposure. It's like renting a room. If you host your game there (renting an apartment) they get part of the cut. Steam will host your multiplayer games and put your game in an algorithm to get it exposed. As long as it's good your game sells well their part of the cut shrinks the more copies are sold.
30% cut? And if it becomes a success it shrinks? It's not a bad deal. Meanwhile other stores don't give you these options.
I don't care. You aren't getting free games from Steam are you now? So you just defeated yourself. I'll keep buying from GOG and no amount of seething Steamcucks can stop me.
It's not self entitlement to demand good service. It is self entitlement to treat consumers like cattle and feed them toxins with a side of microtransactions and playing it off like it's okay. It's not even about being a capitalist or a communist. It's just decency.
>Yet it was swooped away by the new Steam rule.
Cite me a source, my dude. There's no asterisk next to the reviews on the GTA V store page and no indication that anything other than the blowback dying down over time after some hard backpedaling caused the review scores to slowly creep up again over the course of literally a year and a half.
>Yes a LOT of people do those reviews. So they care.
Sure. But despite what this place may have you believe, it doesn't approach "most". Most people don't give a shit about politics.
Oh, my mistake.
As a matter of fact, I am. Anything with a crack is free for the taking.
We were talking about CDPR aka GOG taking the money for itself if the devs aren't around, hench why they poach "good old games". Less people to pay.
>Cite me a source, my dude. There's no asterisk next to the reviews on the GTA V store page
Indeed.
This isn't a matter of freely speaking opinion and getting yelled at if someone else freely disagrees. This is a matter of the opinion being stifled in the first place.
>It is self entitlement to treat consumers like cattle and feed them toxins with a side of microtransactions and playing it off like it's okay.
That's YOUR fault. Not the big daddy corporations. All of you are at fault. I'm pretty sure you bough microtransactions in your lifetime already. If you fucks didn't throw money at companies for microtransactions it wouldn't be this way. The companies just adapted to how you spend your money foolishly.
>Most people don't give a shit about politics.
Most people don't give a shit about mods. Should reviews about mods be banned?
Most people don't give a shit if the game lags in third world country, should we ban their reviews?
Most people don't give a shit if the game crashes on Linux or Mac, should we ban the reviews too?
See my point? You're a selective book burner, but everyone's opinion is different.
>This is a matter of the opinion being stifled in the first place.
No one is stifled in the first place. Even in the DPRK, you can say whatever you want.
You'll just have to pay the price.
Yes, that... literally is mostly positive. As opposed to the usual rating you see, "overwhemlingly positive", "very positive" or just "positive".
How do you get it to work. I tried the option and the GTA scores are the same.
No it's not. 57% is "Mixed".
But if you look at the score, it's "70%".
GTA5 is the first game for which Steam changed the score after changing the rules, I guess they hadn't thought of the asterisk thing at that time.
No, all of the things you mentioned are relevant to the playing of the game. A different game being exclusive to the Epic Store is not relevant to the game. The politics of the developer are also not relevant to the game, unless they are IN the game, in which case they are relevant.
That's not to say they aren't important to some people, just that they have nothing to do with the question the user reviews feature is supposed to help answer, which is "Is this game any good?"
It doesn't work for the GTA score, it works for other games though, I guess they fucked up on the GTA page.
Or they are really afraid that RockStar won't publish their next game on Steam.
>A different game being exclusive to the Epic Store is not relevant to the game
It's relevant for my purchase.
Therefore it's relevant.
What you think is relevant does not trumps what other people think is relevant.
>they have nothing to do with the question the user reviews feature is supposed to help answer, which is "Is this game any good?"
There is no clear rule on what the user reviews are supposed to answer.
Apparently, a lot of people disagree with you.
Sure, you're one of the people who cares equally as much about things that have nothing to do with the quality of the game. That's why the opt-in is available.
>unrelated to the likelihood that future purchasers will be happy if they buy the game
I don't know, it seems pretty straightforward to me.
You're obtuse, man.
Your vision of what matters is not objective, you know.
I'm an ethical consumer, I care about the product AND about the things around it.
If I buy shoes, I want to know if some slaves made them. If it was made by slaves, I won't buy them. You would censor the reviews talking about slavery because it has "nothing to do with the product and if it's good or not".
Well I care.
And I care if a game is a political.
And I care if the devs are SJW.
And I care if the publishers are kikes.
A LOT of people care apparently.
But YOU disagree. So you want to silence them all.
You're a well intended book burner.
I agree! Stop burning books!
Cause heavens forbid you actually write a review that isn't memes or completely unrelated to the game.
>A LOT of people care apparently.
You keep latching onto this and pretending I'm the only person who wants reviews to be about the game itself. Substantially more people than "a lot" don't give a rat's flying shit. If someone sees "Mostly negative" or "mixed", their first thought isn't "these devs must've gone full SJW on twitter" or "another game by this publisher must be on the Epic store" or "winnie the pooh must appear in it at some point", it's "oh shit they must've FUCKED this game in a recent update".
Steam's primary purpose is as a video game store. Most people just want to buy and play their goddamned video games. I hope that's not a foreign concept to you at this point.
This picture reeks various and various levels of cancer.
>/POL/ SAVE THE GAMING INDUSTRY EDITION
Christ lord, this is ridiculous.
Those are BASED oldfags who saved YOUR hobby from political terrorism, faggot
I wanted to pirate a book and donate after seeing the amount the person actually got if I bought it, so I did.
I mean they updated the game to make it worse. People aren't allowed to say negative things about the game when they do this?
Remember what kind of people it is next time you see oag shilling, 8ch recruiting and tux pepe threads.
Ah... The Great Gatsby of video game reviews!
>curation, communication, and consistency are steams problems
No it isn't. I don't care about curation. I like having anything I can buy on the store and buying whatever I want, regardless of what shit posters on Yea Forums say about me or my taste or what I "should" be able to play on the platform.
The problem with steam is that they are going to cave to epic because users are braindead retards who will flock to any anti-consumer thing for a quick fix.
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How do you even donate? People don't give out their paypal like that.
I have downloaded possibly thousands of pirated games. If they are using me as a mining slave why is my GPU usage nothing and why is my outbound traffic always clean?
Reviews don't count if you didn't buy the game through Steam. This was changed a long time ago. People whose reviews aren't being counted are most likely people who bought keys for the game elsewhere.
It's your fault for not going to the options page your mouth breathing sperg
He had a paypal button on his website.
I don't give a shit to donating to massive corporations. If they make it inconvenient for me to purchase shit and I want it I'll just get it and that's that. I will only go through those hoops for people trying to make it on their own.
>People don't understand the dangers of opt-out by default bullshit
Not only that, but GOG's no-DRM policies mean that they won't sell Denuvo games, which means big pubs are even less inclined to sell there
>Piratebay is for singleplayer games
>Spamming "fuck epic" on old games is a clear view if said game being reviewed is good or bad
Fuck off, Review bombing is fucking dumb even if I understand the sentiment behind it
Do you know how trojan miners work? They work when you're not using the computer. The moment it detects an x time of inactivity it launches, and shuts down instantly any activity is recorded
There are no services on my computer or currently running programs that use the GPU bro, so if I have a miner it's mining with 1% of my gpu when my computer is idle.
It'll activate itself after anywhere from 30 minutes to 6 hours depending on what kind of trojan miner you have. But of course, you could also naturally be actually free of them too, and a miner that barely affects the GPU is harmless. It's only the ones going full force that damage the GPU/CPU over time
So if you turn off your pc every time you stop using it you're literally fine? Is that the best anti piracy fags can come up with?
I'm not defending or condoning piracy, i'm just warning you about a potential expensive danger. I'm not the guy you were arguing with, just here to inform that miners can get real clever these days.
And yes, turning off your computer is in fact the counter to these besides removing them.
>are you scared of dying too, are you gonna worry about losing your life the same way you will lose your games
Literally every human who isn't completely insane is afraid of dying.
so he was kicked for being a retard, good riddance
"Life was not a valuable gift, but death was. Life was a fever-dream made up of joys embittered by sorrows, pleasure poisoned by pain; a dream that was a nightmare-confusion of spasmodic and fleeting delights, ecstasies, exultations, happinesses, interspersed with long-drawn miseries, griefs, perils, horrors, disappointments, defeats,humiliations, and despairs—the heaviest curse devisable by divine ingenuity; but death was sweet, death was gentle, death was kind; death healed the bruised spirit and the broken heart, and gave them rest and forgetfulness; death was man's best friend; when man could endure life no longer, death came and set him free."
hahaha what the fuck
>being a buycuck
Lmao
Every simple western chubby consumer slave, bound by his hedonist culture, sure. But enlightened people, reflected people or even religious fanatics understand there is nothing to be afraid of, no pain last forever.
>He had a paypal button on his website.
Fair enough, but that's uncommon.
>Literally every human who isn't completely insane is afraid of dying.
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