Gaming mice

modern wireless mouses mindful of latency often have better response than most wired mouses given those don't care and take it for granted

and batteries last months, not like controllers that you have to constantly recharge

the wire only serve as a hindrance on something that you have to move around

great arguments here

>gaming mouse industry somehow leading innovation on wireless latency
Marketing horseshit.

You bought this mouse because Dizzy bought it right? Yea I bought it also, wireless with the herosensor is fucking great lmao.

I don't buy $10 mice at a gas station. Response for wired is better.
Wires last for longer than months.
My desk is not cluttered with garbage.
All I see are detriments to using wireless mice and no benefits.

G502
Now fuck off

g403 has better side buttons

So you're simply speaking out of complete ignorance. Great, I can ignore you now.

I also might try out the Gpro wireless soon also, the Logitech Mouses are absolutely insane never tried there keyboards though since I always get Cherry mx reds anyways may try out a 60% keyboard for mini RGB Ducky.

Shit heel, I addressed every single point you made and demonstrated that none of the benefits you endorse are beneficial to me, and all of the things you stated aren't a big deal are still detrimental. You're not coming up with a rational fucking argument why wireless is better. You're just coming up with arguments that it can be almost as good if the wired mouse you're comparing it to is shit and you're also using your wired mouse improperly by letting the cord interfere with your mouse's movement. You don't get to sit here and act like you fucking won this argument. You need to come up with better reasons or you need to abandon your position on this subject.

>that guy who still thinks wireless latency is like using a NES infra-red controller
nowadays we're talking like 1ms response, it's beyond insignificant, and batteries last for literal months

>muh sensor
sensor tracking accuracy hasn't advanced in any discernible way in over 14 years

>i'm a retard

ok

>wireless

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for $50-60? sheeit negro.
i'd have gone with the g305, but having to buy batteries is fucking stupid.

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Bullshit. Just because you browse Yea Forums and play shitty games that already have shit controls with your wireless pile of garbage doesn't make it good.

Everything I said was correct. Everything I said was a direct response to a point trying to be made. If you have an argument feel free to explain yourself.

Yea I bought it also, wireless with the herosensor is fucking great lmao.

>and batteries last months, not like controllers that you have to constantly recharge
It's kinda insane how they do it.
I bought a cheap one for my laptop, and kept using it pretty much every single day.
A SINGLE AA battery lasted for more than a year.
It's freaking magic.

>Yea Forums now buys into every marketing gimmick
pathetic

>i'm still retarded

ok

It's just zoomers who think convenience must mean better. They have to standard for quality because they were sucking on their mama's tits 10 years ago.

Untill mouse battery suddenly dies during multiplayer game in most important part of it and you find out you forgot to buy spares.

Any good PC gamer who has self respect uses wired mouse.
If your Ultimate gaming rig all time sits on your desk then there is no excuse to not use wired mouse because where you gonna move it anyway?

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cope, loser

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A lot of posts are marketing, even fucking killing floor posts or anti-epic shit, steam sales and VR.

But most people actually own those Logitech products.

Every time you shitpost without an argument you just illustrate how fucking mad you are that you can't actually make a logical point.

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>still a retard

nice try though

>"""gaming""""" mice

fucking lmao. reminder a cheap $10 mouse is just as good if not better than any rgb filled gamer mouse. your sensors are literally marketing gimmicks and congrats you fell for them

I wanted to buy it when it was 40% off but
>smaller than mx518 legendary which is already too small for my long hands
>reviews filled with quality problems, double-clicking of chinese omron switches

>people here buy into marketing gimmicks, wholesale
that's what i said

while I hate the whole "gaming" thing in general, it's handy if you care for latency

non-gaming mouse often won't even talk about it because it's not a selling point

>i'm a retard

prosettings.net/cs-go-pro-settings-gear-list/

prosettings.net/best-fortnite-settings-list/

prosettings.net/overwatch-pro-settings-gear-list/

prosettings.net/pubg-pro-settings-gear-list/

prosettings.net/apex-legends-pro-settings-gear-list/

please stop i'm not posting anymore source

>your sensors
That's a HERO sensor. It's like having a Spiderman or Captain Marvel sensor. You wouldn't understand.

Unmarked proprietary sensors on extremely old windows mice are actually better than anything I've tried.

>wireless

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Literally the things you typed showed how dumb you are, I personally prefer not to correct anything you just said. Neither does that other user need to... you can't argue with animals honestly.

for me, its the MX518 Legendary.

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>2019
>no g502 wireless

>80% of "pros" used WMO/DA3.0 into the early 2010s
>only started to change when sponsorship took a real hold of the "competitive" industry
Mouse sensors still aren't any more accurate.

this

friendly reminder that if it‘s good enough for competitive, it‘s good enough for you. The G Pro Wireless is the second most popular in csgo comp and number one in ow.

Logitech wireless mice haven‘t had issues with tracking loss, inconsistencies or latency since 2017 and other manufacturing companies have caught up too.
I don‘t need to charge my GPW for two weeks straight.

Wireless tech is good enough to stream VR gameplay at 2400x1400p at 90 hz in current year latency-free, it‘s actually ridiculous that the ‚wireless is bad‘ meme still exists.

youtube.com/watch?v=NeWRU92qMUQ
Your opinion when you bought a wireless mouse 5+ years ago ( which probably used bluetooth anyway ) is irrelevant

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every non wireless mouse.

Yet you feel the compulsion to reply anyway. This idea that you won't do it because you'd be wasting your time wouldn't even fool a child.
>I personally prefer not to correct anything you just said
Nobody who ever won an argument ever said anything like this. Everyone who said this lost the argument. Wireless mice are worse using every metric of comparison except for convenience. This is not an opinion. It's a quantifiable fact.

>Mouse sensors still aren't any more accurate.
What's the difference between a wireless and non wireless mouse?

Why do some fractions of pro's use wireless

Is it because of preference?

With the fucking movements you have to perform in Overwatch of course you can't have a fucking wired mouse.

That fucking wire would fling the fuck everywhere.

>Logitech wireless mice
enjoy your vulnerability anons

The GPW is the best mouse money can buy. Sadly it isn't worth the asking price because no mouse is worth that much.

I don't need to say anything you already defeated yourself. It's hilarious though how you can't figure out what you just said unless you're not that user. It's not really such a big deal honestly.

Every post you make is a victory lap for me. Every single one of my points stand uncontested. You have not contested them. You can act like they're wrong all day, but until you actually argue them with points of your own they're going to remain correct.

It's just people trying to rationalize there purchases, I still know people who don't use wireless headsets because of abysmal reasons.

>tfw purchased the G403 on amazon for $65 and it's sitting at $150 now

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soon

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>2019
>complaining people are using wireless mice
>on a board where most of the userbase does not even play vidya gaems
i went with the harpoon wireless because the sensor is better than the wired version

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I could careless of what you said after that first post you made, you replying even more was my goal for being such a jackass in the first place.

Alright cockfags I'm in the market for a new Keyboard and mouse since the dongle in my K350 is going bad. Preferably two that won't go over 30$. I'm also tired of the wireless meme and want something wired.

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>What's the difference between a wireless and non wireless mouse?
Added latency but no wire? It's sad if someone can't figure out how to make a wired mouse feel wireless by making your own mouse bungee, or buying one.
>Why do some fractions of pro's use wireless
They don't want to bother using a bungee or creating their own along with sponsorships and the game they are playing isn't actually as competitive or taxing as past ones in that the game involves more practical skills outside aiming. It's really mostly about advertising a $140 mouse to the general populace.

>his mouse can't house bees

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>wtf is a bungee or wirelock or tape

>I don't care but I'm going to keep replying
Who the fuck do you think you're fooling? You're mad as fuck that you fell for basic bitch marketing and people who know better are ridiculing you for being stupid. It's fine if you like wireless mice for their convenience, but don't act like it's better unless you've got rational reasons to back it up. People here know better.

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>Hardware is good because "Pro Players" use it.
You believe in that shit? Most of these celebrities don't even buy mouse anymore. They get them for free from hardware making companies for marketing purposes and sheep like you just buy this shit because they will be pro like their IDOLS if they will use the same stuff they use.

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How much latency does it add user?

>It's sad if someone can't figure out how to make a wired mouse feel wireless by making your own mouse bungee

Oh no I can't make my own bungee's lmao

>They don't want to bother using a bungee

oh nooo people don't want to use a bungee!

>creating their own along with sponsorships and the game they are playing isn't actually as competitive or taxing as past ones in that the game involves more practical skills outside aiming. It's really mostly about advertising a $140 mouse to the general populace.

Then why do actual pros across most games prefer a wireless mouse if it's not actually as competitive or taxing. I thought they were ACTUALLY using these wireless mouses in the competitive scenes?

We could even look into the Esports capital of the world in Esports which is Korea if some of the pro's prefer a wireless mouse.

Do you think the wired delay pull from the wire matches with a latency delay wireless mouse?

I'm using logitech mx2 anywhere at work and the batteries last for weeks. When they run low, a low battery icon will pop up on screen and I can plug in the cable and continue using the mouse. After an hour, it's charged again. When the symbol pops up there's at least 1 hour of battery left so there's plenty of time.
I'm also using the g930 wireless headset. An hour before it runs out of battery, I will hear a little beeping noise so I know to charge it. The headset has been working fine for 3 years now, but now it's starting to lose connection sometimes. I suspect it's either the drivers, because many people are having this issue now, or because the receiver for the wireless connection sits right next to my router and they somehow fuck each other.

I ordered the g pro wireless and it's gonna arrive today. I want to see if it's really that good. They claim to never lose connection and have 1ms response time. If that holds true, there is no reason to get a wired mouse ever again.

Latency pull caused by a bungee or wired mouse would probably have more effects then a wireless mouse.

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This is the best mouse.

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Still being a retard please stop, at least come up with some tangible shit like the other anons i'm talking to.

>I'm a retard
Bet you don't own a mobile phone because duhhh it can run out of battery

>oh nooo people don't want to use a bungee!
a piece of tape or even a book for no wireless latency? not even a wallet?

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What's the latency difference then? You keep saying this.

>i want to believe in the gimmick so much that i have to guess

I had that mouse and hated it. I'll take my weird claw grip hockey puck, thanks. Just got the updated version of it and while I don't like that it's longer, it's still my favorite series of mice.

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All of my points remain uncontested. You have no arguments. You don't get to whine about not wanting to waste time arguing for 20 minutes. That's not how it works. If you had an argument you would have given it already. You wouldn't withhold truth. You would have offered it up immediately. The fact that you haven't and won't shut the fuck up just reinforced everything I said as completely correct. Not only are you wrong, but you're mad as shit about it.

Fag.

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So a wire pull even with a bungee doesn't interfere with latency in regards to a wireless mouse?

that mouse has the most slippery grip i've ever used

that rubber siding is fucking bullshit

see

yeah the materials aren't the best, but I literally control the mouse with my fingertips so it doesn't affect me. anyone who isn't a claw/palm-grip autist probably wouldn't be into it, but I do wish more mice would have a ring finger rest

>wire pull
there isn't any "pull" or "drag"

My steelseries sensei raw's scroll wheel is fucked every so many downscrolls it ticks one up. Very frustrating when trying to browse sites.
I like the feel of this mouse and I'm thinking about buying the newest version if it, but I don't want to run into this scroll issue again.
There are other people with this issue that I've found on the internet, anyone have any idea if the new version has this same issue? Or if all the steelseries mice suffer from this scroll wheel issue.

G 303 wireless when???
i use a g302 and i wont change it for anything that isn't a 303.

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>but I literally control the mouse with my fingertips so it doesn't affect me
i only fingertip mice, exclusively

fuck "rubber" grips

that mouse is good but it weighs too much
i used to use that but since i got a finalmouse and gpro wireless i can never go back

..

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Not an argument against my points. I'm still correct. You're still mad.

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what other mice do you recommend? I went through a ton of mice recently and just ended up with the coolermaster spawn update, the MM520

>gpro wireless i can never go back
I can never go back to using wired shit again either

This

I barely see any sense for wireless mouses unless you got a laptop

You dont need to charge a cablemouse

Oh lol dude. For like 1/3 of your mouse price you can get a wired one with same specs.
You got bamboozled into paying fuckton of money because you can't handle 1 more cable.

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blows my mind how behind Yea Forums always are

see

Says some random retard that can't even capitalize or punctuate his posts.

if you fingertip exclusively, the fk2 or the very first and original razer abyssus but you have to make sure it's not a chinese ripoff in that case

I have a wired and wireless. I prefer the wireless for vidya.

Don't shitpost. If you don't want to engage in the argument then don't respond. If you do want to engage then feel free to make a point or counter-point. Don't just shit on the thread with useless posts.

What are you even talking about? Yea Forums buys all the newly marketed trash.

>still being a retard

haha holy shit I bet you still use a cord phone fuck

Literally everything you mentioned in those posts is hilarious. It's fucking insane how the 3d chess shit posting evolved here over night.

>Wireless

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What is your excuse?

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So hilarious you'll cry about how you don't need to address any of those points for half an hour instead of simply addressing them. You're not fooling anyone, shit head. The points I made are so self-evident that you're terrified of addressing them directly because you can't even think of a way to do it. You would rather run around in circles pretending like you don't need to respond when you clearly want to respond. If you had an argument you would have made it. The only thing anybody can conclude is you're retarded and I'm correct.

>Comparing mouse to mobile phone.
You wireless shills are trying so hard.
Mobile phone is meant to be used literally anywhere.

And mouse must be connected to computer no matter if wired or wireless. So why pay additional money for function what brings more problems than usefulness when I can buy wired mouse because it will be on my desk forever anyway.

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But you need to be able to use the mouse 20 feet away when you can't even see the monitor!!! I need to justify my purchase somehow!!!

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This is pretty fucking insane

I don't understand this picture is he just poor or what's going on?

>but cables obstruct movement!
Is this coming from the same people who drill holes in their mice?

reminder for the retards itt same applies to mice

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It is insane that people on Yea Forums will defend the use of wireless technology that makes them play worse simply because they were foolish enough to not know any better.

>referring to latency as lag
>no source
>clearly an advertisement
You're retarded, bro. It's terminal.

I shit you not I spent like 2 minutes trying to find and reread you're first post to make sure i'm not delusional.

>ur still a retard

this

>dual shock wired
>literally uses the same wireless input regardless

>facta that show any device or technology being superior to other is advertisenent
>semantics invalidate facts
go be a drooling runt somewhere else

Literally everyone bringing up there are no benefits to wireless calming that it has more latency then wired mouses won't bring up any numbers either. If anything at the end of the day i'm more convince wireless is better.

Even if there were latency delay's of milliseconds 0.01 it would still factor in the bungee pull from wired mouses compared to a wireless. Other comments are just preference or maintenance wise.

Still nothing to say about my points. Just a lot of kicking and screaming. You obviously want to change my mind about this because you're trying and failing to shame me into silence, but you're not doing the one thing you can do to actually shut me up. You're not proving me wrong. You're not addressing my points. You're not arguing, you're just complaining that I made you feel like an idiot.

>Mobile phone is meant to be used literally anywhere.
How can I use it when it runs out of battery?

Wireless mice always will have input delay.
Something my near five year old logitech standar mouse does not.

Says some random retard that can't even be bothered to type proper English. If you want the courtesy of being taken seriously you need to do us all the courtesy of typing correctly.

>Mobile phone is meant to be used literally anywhere.
I swear to god city fags need to be gassed.

>tiny hands can't paw grip masterrace. always have access to 4 inputs.
It's like no one plays rts anymore. I'm gonna go play men of war and race panzers. Fags

You do not understand how wireless technology works. You're adding more middlemen. More devices responsible for transmitting and receiving data. More points of failure. Relying on broadcasting a signal and receiving a signal that is subject to interference and signal loss. Relying on an independent source of power that also removes your choice for how heavy your mouse is.

Stop butchering green text.

Did you remove the weights? I find it too light without them, I don't have a lot of fine strength control and just put a strain elsewhere if i dont have them

>Just a lot of kicking and screaming
Do you actually read what you type?
>You obviously want to change my mind about this
No

I mean fair enough for a laptop, but seems absolutely pointless for desktops.

I did... dishonor to me senpai. I will now commit sudoku for my sins

You're still replying without an argument. Every time you do it you just paint an enormous picture about how fucking mad you are.

WIFI > ETHERNET CABLES FOR GAMING
who here /wifimasterrace/?

I have it and I fuckin love it

But is it as much input delay as a wired mouse that's being pulled by a bungee cord?

Trips attone for sins of the fallen! Czech em

Stadia is the future!

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I have a g900. I can use it wired or wireless. I choose to use it wireless because it makes no difference expect being more comfortable. It tells me when it's running low and I still have several hours plug it in.
Maybe stop buying cheap garbage that runs on AA batteries.

I don't have my wired mouse pulled by a bungee cord so I wouldn't know.
All I know is that every singe wired mouse ive ever used has had input delay.
Most of the times it was barely noticeable. But it's still there, and thats a problem.

When will every other industry on the planet, that are many magnitudes larger than PC gaming peripheral companies, finally catch up to the magical negative zero latency technology that the Swiss now possess and include in their Logitech mice?

I have a solar charger.

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Yea but what are the numbers in regards to having both perfect scenarios of delay in both wired and wireless mouses?
One user actually brings up it's for poor fags with small desks --
Another user brings up the cord pull with or without a proper bungee ads delay to begin with -- And the last user I seen post said if you don't have a proper setup it's vise versa good or bad in the first place. All other comments are personal preference or *not willing* to change a battery every couple months

wireless I mean

Maybe you just suck...

and I have a mouse charger

>tfw bought the wired G403 for $50 over a year ago and the clerk fucked up and gave me the wireless version instead

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maybe you should suck my dick

get a cheap chink mechanical keyboard

That’s pretty gay of you brah

I'm sorry but you are the one that sounds angry ..

What wireless mouses did you try? The Logitech ones in OP's pic?

have sex

When people learn how the hardware actually works. Wifi 5.1GHz wireless is fastest. It's a matter of the medium used not the hardware itself.

Fact of the matter remains that if you're serious about minimizing negative consequences of your choice in mice on your gameplay you will use the best tool for the job and then structure everything tertiary to your gameplay around these tools. You don't get to buy the wrong tool for the job and then claim it's actually better because you got swindled.

Like I've said multiple times, if you're using a wireless mouse for convenience then that's exactly what it was designed for. Personal preference for convenience is perfectly fine. That's a good thing. People should have that choice.

The problem is when people who want this convenience act like they're not sacrificing performance. They are.

I absolutely hate advertisement threads but the people defending wired mouses have to be fucking false flag shills for discussion.

>defending superior technology
I bet you drive a Tesla and think EVs are the future lmao

Sure I can

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I joke not I still use a Dell Mouse I used when I worked for Gateway, if anyone remembers them.

Putting my boot on your neck for being a cowardly pussy who runs away from points he can't refute doesn't make me mad. It makes me correct and not afraid to ridicule you for your arrogant ignorance.

Why not both?

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>defending wired mouses have to be fucking false flag shills
Yeah, and the ones stating an inferior technology should be bought for $135-$150 are not.

I use some steel series that you can take the sides off of and add little weights to it. I really like it since otherwise I just fling my mouse all over the place. The added weight slows me down a tad.

I can hypothetically argue a stable 5.5 band environment allows for the least amount of latency/input lag. Hypothetically of course

>pro players
>"trying to rationalize purchases"
how dumb can you get nigger

What's a comfy mouse with lots of bindable buttons and an adequate sensor? Doesn't have to be an 18-button MMO monstrosity, but more than 5 would be nice.

fpbp
wireless cucks on suicide watch

>pro
Pretty dumb

>referring to latency as lag
Because they're synonymous you double baka shitposter.

Least among wireless technology perhaps, but it's not going to beat copper unless the copper is 1 kilometer long.

G502, the answer is always G502.

nice that we cleared that out

No. They're not.

5 buttons is a lot of combinations buddy. 2 inputs simultaneously=new input

this is the best mouse.

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RIP

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gamersnexus.net/guides/2594-wireless-mouse-click-latency-analysis-vs-wired

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>modern wireless mouses mindful of latency often have better response than most wired mouses given those don't care and take it for granted
shit wired will still be better than the best wireless reeeeeeeeeeeeeetard

Because the lack of a wire actually improves control a lot more than you would think.
Also the G Pro lasts 60 hours on one charge and at around 10 hours left it notifies you with a red LED. You'll never suddenly run out of battery; also you can use it as a wired mouse while it charges.

Don't go shitting on my hypothetical world using actual fact user.

and this is the best mouse pad

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I still have a good one. It's been what, 12 years?

>wireless

I bet you play at 30 fps too

You lucky fucker
I was on my 3rd one a few years back, have no idea what happened to it

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>not Dell
JUST

These threads are always good to see how fucking casual most of Yea Forums is
Supposed experts of the industry and yet don't know fuckall, sporting knowledge that has been outdated for years

>inferior

its not 2015 anymore, wireless is better

again, you can stream full res latency free with some VR headsets, a mouse transmits like 1/1000 of that data. You‘re stuck in the past.

Charging a mouse for an hour every two weeks outweights cable drag

Well. Do you fucking carry your PC with you?

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I bought a shitty deathadder to replace mine after 8 years of use, 1 year later I was back to the intellimouse.

I reckon mine's about 12 years old too. Mouse wheel randomly jumps sometimes, but she's alright. Adds character.

>I paid more so it HAS to be better!
Cope.

>Yea Forums trying to be /g/
Claimed no one ever

>Supposed experts of the industry

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Just wait til your scroll stops working as intended, and your left/right-click stops holding.

>The problem is when people who want this convenience act like they're not sacrificing performance. They are.
And yet the people that play shooters for a job switch more and more to wireless mice

People who play "for a job" and for public display are sponsored by hardware companies. And chairs.

Yeah, sucks not to be educated by a Youtuber reviewer who claims to have only been using gaming mice for a few years and then expects to be taken seriously.

it makes no sense to use wireless peripherals on a desk. you're dealing with batteries for no reason at all.

it's an incredibly ridiculous and useless concept.

>b-but i was told that wireless is bad in the last decade!

imagine actually being this convinced of your retardation, get with the times

g502 suck my dick forever

shh man, don’t ruin the fantasy for him

>cable drag

>tape wire to raised object
>buy a $5 bungee
>no drag and no wireless latency
wtf?!

>it makes no sense to have personal preference
That's you. You mong. All the stupid ass soapboxes and you pick that.

Regardless, people who buy wireless will buy wireless, and people who don't will just be stuck on cable. Not like there'll be a huge shift; people will just continue doing what they're doing, even though technology advances. There are still people out there using flip phones for god's sake.

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I would use a flip phone if there were good ones around. Hate touchscreens.

And countries using floppy disks to install windows 10. Dark times

>nigger rig a setup with some adhesive strips
>buy an extra thing to sit on my desk
>latency
its a matter a preference, then

it's not a matter of personal preference.

you're dealing with extra issues like batteries dying out, for no reason, to replace a wire that you don't even know it's there.

it's incredibly stupid to call that a personal preference.

>nigger rig a setup
Like every pro who isn't forced to use a certain mouse for marketing purposes.

G900 series is wireless, but also comes with a wire. Best of both worlds.

Not all of them are sponsored by logitech, the majority aren't. You'd hear them bitch about being forced to use a wireless mouse with input delay, you don't.
They also frequently switch between mice

The only thing that matters with mice is shape considering anything else is for plebs. Zowie EC2-B is pretty good probably won't ever "upgrade".

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How shit hot do these shooterfags think they are if they have conned themselves into thinking

>get recommended a mouse because supposedly it has a great sensor and ergonomics
>it's a goddamn spaceship plastered with blue lights

what is the g503

that's exactly what every wireless mouse should have as an option.

Millisecond delay is also caused by wired mouse friction

How long can I expect the left and right mouse buttons to last on the MX518? Because this G300S shit that I got only lasted a few months.

You would be surprised what people will put up with. Can you not 5 finger discount yourself a pack of lithium ion AA?

Look at what I put up with.

Well if they use inbuilt batteries they generally use a wire to charge it
Apparently there's also quire expensive mousepads that double as a charging pad

Pic related

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if you are referring to the actual mx518, forever

if you are referring to the nostalgia bait recently release, who knows

>67€ for a 'very good' used gpro wireless from Amazon with only cosmetic damage
I'll report back tomorrow, fags

>wired mouse friction
Which is different from wireless mouse friction how? Wireless mice are heavier so friction is even more of an issue wit them.

You know the shit needs to be replaced when the skin grunge on the side buttons have antique patina.

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Having a spare set of rechargeable batteries ready to go in the drawer of your desk vs desktop cable management devices,
it's incredibly stupid to not call that a personal preference.

wireless is not an issue in current year

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>3 mice
>no source
>advertisement
Looks like yet another zoomer got hoodwinked by marketing.

hey nigger

Input latency = input lag, so in the context of this thread, yes it synonymous.

>wireless

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your opinion is irrelevant if you havent used a wireless logi mouse in the last two years

But that user won't ever change his mind, no matter what sources you bring up. With his mindset, it's futile. Just save your energy, no matter how minimal. It's still energy.

>white fish = you
>black fish = him

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>Just fucking buy it trust me bro

read nigger

Doused in rubbing alcohol, set on fire, and febreezed. But seriously can I have your contact info so you can identify some subatomic shit for me?

>falling for the nothing wrong with wireless meme
That's a yikes for me.

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>people still think wireless is bad
boomers just need to be shot at this point desu

>I haven't tried the thing but I know better tho

mechanical keyboards are even funnier, you have to pay extra to get one that doesn't look like some pride parade edition

It's probably just someone taking the piss. This is Yea Forums, after all. Always gotta start shit.

got this in mail yesterday so I could stop being a clicker in an mmo I play
>tfw its too complicated for me and it feels like relearning everything
At least it was only $30

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>pinky rest
Nice

I bet they don't even use WiFi exclusively for the lower latency.

I used one for the longest time and it fucked me over more than a few times when playing a MMO of all things, can't imagine a fps player wanting that jumpy, laggy shit in their game

>don't buy into $150 mouse shill posts
>must be "contrarian"

>not having an AES-256bit encryption for PW on your designated IP wireless mouse
Gotta be safe user. These delay times though...

Technology has improved since you were playing WoW vanilla, user

Yeah, now mice have NATIVE 16,000dpi for those who want extremely accurate aiming with your mouse.

G Pro for babby hands. user's penus very tiny.

>still shitting on wireless mouses like it's four years ago
>despite having been shown the latency gap has been bridged
you are either a boomer desperately trying to justify your new cord management system or a contrarian shitposter, dunno what's more pathetic. Sure, keep using what you've got, but if somebody needs a new mouse wireless is the best option. Buying a wireless mouse and bungee in 2019 is just signalling how 1337 you are, along with your gamer specific chair and riced neon tower.

this was just less than a year ago in XIV. It was a cheap mouse but it was new, and it actually sucked.
An equally cheap wired mouse never failed me the way that pos did

>Buying a wireless mouse and bungee in 2019
wired*

Yes, low latency wireless is a more complicated technology than wired, and thus it'll perform worse with cheapo mice
If you want cheapo, you go wired, but that's not what the last few hundred posts of this thread were about, but about whether high-end wireless mice are still worse than wired mice
and they aren't

if 150$ for a device you use 3+ years is expensive I truly pity you.

If you‘re on this board you probably use a PC every day, why cheap out on the most important input method?

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>I have thing that works perfectly
>Noooooo, you must buy more expensive thing, I assure you it's not 'worse' anymore!

Or you could spend $30 for a device you use 7+ years without having to buy batteries

>ctrl + f Rival 600
>0 matches
belligerent uncultured plebeians
all of you

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>$30 wired mouse
still no

Funny how no one has even tried to refute any of this. The GPW may be a bit expensive but like you said, it lasts for weeks on end and behaves exactly like a wired mouse. Most people itt are just shitposting.

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a friend said his logitech g600 has lasted him 7 years and is still going strong.

>outdated latency bullshit gets btfo
>desperately resort to strawman bullshit

its not about how long it lasts, its about sensor quality
the g600 might last ages but the sensor is shit tier

user, you'd notice mouse battery is dying long before 6 hours gaming session
and it's not like the battery is dead as fast as Kenshiro says "omae wa mo shindeiru"

>lasts for weeks
Wires last longer than that.
>behaves exactly like a wired mouse.
This is not an endorsement for wireless mice being better. It's a claim that wireless mice are equal despite the knowledge that everybody already has about the technology. Any improvements that would improve input delay on wireless mice can also be used to improve input delay on wired mice. Wireless mice cannot catch up because electrons traveling across a copper wire are going to be received faster than signals traveling through the air that need to be filtered out from all of the noise. This is just straight up mathematics. The signals coming from a wired mouse do not need to be authenticated. They do not need to be processed.

>user TALKS ABOUT THINGS HE ONLY HAS THE SLIGHTEST OF GRASP OF
stop the fucking presses! user knows it all!

>Not using the recharging mouse pad

>wireless technology can some how improve wired mice
are you even listening to yourself?
you know wireless travels at the speed light of right?
that vr wireless headsets have no latency and transmit fucktons more data
you are a boomer who has no concept of what you are talking about

>This is not an endorsement for wireless mice being better.
The lack of wires is. With the latency gap completely closed what remains are less quantifiable but still impactful factors on performance such as cable management.

What kind of weaksauce onions elemental do you have to be to even notice a wire?

its too small

its pretty noticeable if you do any amount of flicking, its the reason i went wireless
the different on resistance between the center of the pad and the edges is a fair bit

Elaborate on why you >wireless

Unless you have logitechs hundred dollar meme technology that inductively charges the mouse from the pad like I do

I use the g903 and there is no delay at all, plus it comes with a cable if you want to use it that way. I would never go back to wired at this point, I have an adjustable standing desk so wireless is very convenient.

>mouse battery dies
>plug mouse in with charging cable
>keep playing like usual while it charges

oh no no no nono

I'm dumbing it down specifically for your sake and you still don't get it.

Electrons bumping into one another is pretty fast, bro. The point that you ignored is that signals from your mouse to your device are not delayed by extra steps that are necessary when filtering out signals received from the air. This is the reality of why wireless can never catch up. Nothing can be done to prevent the delay caused by intercepting and processing data because wireless signals will never be inherently secure enough to send without needing to be authenticated.

Cable management is not an issue unless you're intentionally trying to make it an issue to prove a point about how it can be an issue in a circumstance that nobody would tolerate in the first place. Look guys, this boot on my tire makes it hard to fucking drive so we should all be using hovercrafts like in the mother fucking everglades.

theres only 1 real button you need for mmos, autorun.

>no delay at all
People also say shit like 30 fps is fine. What you can perceive is irrelevant. What can be measured is relevant.

see

What is the most ergonomic mouse

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how do you explain ?
its already caught up you nigger

I have it and I put only 1 of the weights right at the back and it hit the spot, great mouse

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Allow me to quote the article you're using as proof for your stupid fucking claim.
>What this data does definitively show, though, is that a well-constructed wireless mouse is not inherently, significantly slower than a well-constructed wired mouse.
>not inherently, significantly slower
In other words it is slower, but not significantly. If it were definitely faster he would need to use mealy mouthed words. He would just say it's faster. Go fuck yourselves, retards. There are also inconsistencies with his testing but I wouldn't expect retards like you who don't appreciate the scientific method for testing hypotheses to pay any attention to that.

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> If it were definitely faster
it has actual fucking info, its faster
you just skimmed it you dumb nigger

Says the retard who can't even be bothered to capitalize or punctuate his posts. If you don't take typing seriously how the fuck do you expect me to take you seriously? Of course some illiterate ESL cunt like you would get suckered into marketing and eat up hook, line, and sinker. He's comparing two mice. Two. That's an insanely small sample size. It doesn't investigate the actual differences in the hardware of these mice in order to understand what could be responsible for the exact measurements.

Source backing up wireless has already been posted and linked to multiple times. Everything after that is just worthless shitposting, as goes on Yea Forums.

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>still trying to weasel out of it
>Logitech mice perform within the ~3~6ms range for click latency, where the Razer mouse performs within the ~9~12ms range for latency.
read it nigger, fucking read it and tell me how a mouse that has 3-6ms of latency is bad

If you can‘t perceive the delay then the mouse by definition is always pointing right where you want it to, you fucking brainlet.
The fact that academically, there‘s a fraction of a millisecond delay is completely irrelevant at that point. You‘d get better results by getting a better monitor.

>Wireless

People who paid a fat premium for a barely adequate product are coping pretty hard now.

>my overpriced wireless mouse is almost as good as a shitty wired mouse in some circumstances so it was a good purchase

>Says the retard who can't even be bothered to capitalize or punctuate his posts. If you don't take typing seriously how the fuck do you expect me to take you seriously

>the goalposts are moving on their own, senpai~!

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jesus fuck that's like a less cute version of the skydive corgi

See? Shitposting.

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>Says the retard who can't even be bothered to capitalize or punctuate his posts. If you don't take typing seriously how the fuck do you expect me to take you seriously?
lmao

I got a G603 because wires were getting in the way when I was using my laptop when I traveled. I don't notice an input delay and I use 2350 mAh rechargeable AAs so I only have to recharge it like once every 2 months.

>Cable management is not an issue unless you're intentionally trying to make it an issue to prove a point about how it can be an issue in a circumstance that nobody would tolerate in the first place. Look guys, this boot on my tire makes it hard to fucking drive so we should all be using hovercrafts like in the mother fucking everglades.
I joined in on this argument with the chorus of out of touch boomers bunging on about >wireless like the latency gap hadn't been closed. If they weren't pushing out of date bullshit and then immediately shifted the goalposts I wouldn't be arguing minutae. But now that they have, as minute as the effect of the odd tug from the wire of a wired mouse is in throwing your aim slightly, it means that wireless mouses have slightly better performance than wired. It's a tiny issue, but after having used wireless mouses in an office setting for a long time it's good to see that wired and wireless mouses now have effectively the same latency, and I'll never have to rely on an imperfect stopgap solution such as mouse bungees again. I still play LAN not infrequently, the less cables to fuck around with the better.

Very good all around and I like the weight. But I would like to try a zowie fk for SUPER aim intense games like osu

I have the original gpro and the g305 I don't feel any delay with g305 but still prefer the original gpro, It's more balanced and with a paracord cable it feels pretty much wireless