Is Persona 1 and 2 worth playing...

I played it on the emulator so random encounters werent as time consuming due to fast forward but yeah theres alot unless you use something to lessen it. And having to negotiate for cards used to summon. Fun at first but takes a while if youre into summoning alot. And theres leveling persona to unlock skills. Still, it was more on the easy side (especially 2 IS) until the end.

1 is the peak in gameplay for the series

It's literally just your average old RPG. The people saying it's dated are stupid and probably zoomers who've never touched RPGs and just look up Persona's cutscenes on youtube instead of playing them.

It's standard-ass old RPG shit. If you like 90s turn-based RPGs you'll do fine here.

I tried Persona 1 but the gameplay was so bad I stopped before the halfway point. I have multiple times attempted to play through it but always end up dropping it. Never tried P2 as a result.

for 1 I agree but IS is genuinely bad and punishes you for not just auto battling everything, even the god damn bosses

This is about right.
Play them if you want, but there are better games in the series to prioritize.

I don't mind old school 90s RPG combat. I do a full playthrough of Final Fantasy VII at least twice a year. It's one of my favorite games of all time. Just as long as the combat doesn't drag on or get boring after so many hours of play time I think I can handle it

Can anybody else confirm this is true? Me personally, I think Persona 5 gameplay is the best out of 3 - 5. I just never heard anybody say 1 has the best gameplay before

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innocent sin is great. great cast, good music, fun battle system. demon conversations make it (and 1/ep) a lot more like mainline smt than 3/4/5.

the encounter rate isn't an issue after the first dungeon if you go to the casino, savestate scum for a couple minutes, then stock up on disguise kits (reduces rate of all encounters). not a perfect solution since disguise kits wear off after while so you have to menu every so often to use another one, but the encounter rate is no longer an issue.

I do find that funny that Atlus doesn't acknowledge P1 or P2 like they don't even exist. Kind of like how Square Enix doesn't acknowledge Final Fantasy games before 4 or how Rockstar doesn't acknowledge GTA 1 or GTA 2

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We all agree she's the sexiest and best girl right?

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Persona 1 is... not that great. Even as someone that loves dungeon crawlers, P1 is underwhelming. The gameplay is very unbalanced, dungeons are featureless mazes, combat is more slow and tedious than difficult, every character is pretty much a boring blank slate sans Maki (and when they aren't, you will wish they were... lookin' at you Ayase) and the story, while interesting in concept, is executed poorly and 80% of the game's runtime is mostly unrelated to it. It was one of the very first RPGs I played in the PSX and while I loved it as a dumb kid, years later playing on the PSP... it didn't hold well. Even if you like dungeon crawlers, go play something like EO or SJ instead.

Persona 2 is good. Not amazing, but good. Story and characters are miles ahead from P1, the gameplay is a lot more polished and streamlined (which could be seen as a downside, but by God saving anywhere is a godsend) and while the balance and combat is still a bit of a mess, at least it isn't a slow, boring mess.

No. Ignore retarded bandwagoners.

do you know what that word means?

Yeah, I do. If you have something to say, just come out and say it, don't be a snarky passive aggressive cunt.

the gameplay isn't THAT bad. it's not great or anything, but it's just very average by old-school jrpg standards.
literally every other aspect of p2 is 11/10 though, which is why it's still one of my favorite games of all time despite that.

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>I just never heard anybody say 1 has the best gameplay before
1's gameplay is weird because it has elements of SRPGs in it. The combat takes place on a large two-sided grid, you get AOE spells and line based attacks along with the classic 'hit everyone or a single target' stuff. There's a lot of different types of damage too, but that isn't a problem as long as you keep some kind of track and know that different melees are counted as different types of damage. Demon negotiation is pretty good in P1, and the 1st person dungeon exploring from mainline SMT is present here too. The best is debatable but it's pretty solid for what it is.

that's not really true, though. they slip references to p1 and p2 into the modern persona games all the time. hashino also borrowed some major plot points from the first two games to use in his trilogy. also, atlus released advanced ports of 1 and 2 on the psp and licensed 1 out to the ps classic.
the official excuse for why they're not acknowledged more than they are is "not wanting to disrespect the original creators," since many of them have left atlus since those games came out. truthfully, i think the real reason is that hashino didn't want people to notice how much better written 1 and 2 were than his games and raise their expectations accordingly.

Hahahahahahaha

Persona 1 is bretty cool

P1 and P2 are meme games in the truest sense of the word. Some peopl convinced themselves that these games are some sort of forgotten masterpieces that Atlus wants to bury because they don't want people to find how much great they are compared to what they produce today
The truth is that these games are mediocre at best, with tedious gameplay whose systems don't work most of the time, and nonsensical storylines that are more on the side of unintentional comedy
If those games were that great Atlus wouldn't shut up about them just like Square-Enix cannot shut up about 20-30 year old Dragon Quest III and Final Fantasy VII. The standard for Persona nowadays is P3 and that's for a good reason

>The standard for Persona nowadays is P3
imagine pretending that the worst game in the series is the "standard." p3 babbies really are something.

P2 is the worst game in the series

nope, sorry, that's p3 vanilla and fes. terrible gameplay, worst dungeons in the history of jrpgs, dreadfully boring story. it sold like shit, too. at least atlus finally made a tolerable version of p3 on their third try with the p3p femc route.

They acknowledge them tons of times. But they also acknowledge both that what the series is now is based on what 3 started, and that the remakes of 1 and 2 bombed like hell so they assume there's little demand for 1 and 2 material outside of a niche group in an already niche fanbase. And that's without pointing out that the devs for 5 were very open in pre-release interviews that 5 was pulling influence from 1 and 2 in terms of both gameplay mechanics (bringing back demon negotiation, guns, and an expanded elemental system) and story themes, even if there were no direct references to 1 or 2.

They have really good story and characters (personally they're better than the newer persona games in the term) but the gameplay is seriously tedious
So I recommend you WATCHING it rather than playing it
Cuz the story is worth it.

1 and 2 never got remakes. they got enhanced ports that didn't really fix the issues that kept people away from those games (other than 1's brutal original localization).
now that 5 has brought the series mainstream, i could see them remaking 1 and 2 for real someday.

Every single one of those criticisms apply to P2 but even moreso. Especially sales.

>tfw like nearly everything about Persona 3-5 except for that goddamn calendar
I will never, EVER be able to get into the newer Persona games because of the calendar system. I just hate it so much, and it sucks because I know I would enjoy them a lot otherwise. Sounds like it’s worth giving Persona 1 and both Persona 2’s a shot, at least, considering they’re more in line with the other SMT games. And, you know, no calendars.

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They're more likely to remake 3.

you're a p3 babby, of course you have shit taste.
the calendar system isn't bad at all, honestly. what don't you like about it?

hey, maybe it will finally be better than mediocre on the 4th try. i'm not holding my breath, though.

That's fine user, just play a different game. Atlus does not make games with the intention to appeal to everyone, they make games that will appeal to a specific niche audience. If you're not in that niche, don't worry about it.

Yeah that's one of the reasons I couldn't finish the newer persona games...
It's just unnecessary and could've done without it.

OP HERE.
I really appreciate the feedback guys. I have learned a lot. I’m currently downloading P2 Eternal Punishment on my PS3. I don’t know how I’m going to play Innocent Sin because I no longer have a PSP and I don’t have a Vita. Same thing with Persona 1 (the PSP Remake) .

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Emulate 1 and IS, either PSP or the originals. Don't jump right into EP because it's a direct sequel to IS with 2 as a whole being an actual sequel to 1.

You can easily emulate PSP games even with a toaster.

Persona 2 Innocent Sin is arguably the best Persona game

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this.
haven't played psp innocent sin but the ps1 fan translation is solid.

Dude
You're playing the sequel
Play IS first

I've played 1 and the story is really good but the gameplay is mediocre and it has the worst dungeon designs in the history of jrpgs

Persona 1 had the best MC design desu

like i told you last thread, p1 and p2 have better story and gameplay than the later games but you should not play them