How do I stop being bad at fighting games?
How do I stop being bad at fighting games?
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Stop wasting time on combos and build a solid fundamentals
Practice movement first and foremost. It's better to whiff punish than be pressured from blockstun.
block. Not even memeing
This. Training mode is a trap that leads you to spend too much time attempting fancy combos when you should be practicing bread'n'butters so that you can do them on reaction in a real match. Watch some high-level matches and you'll see that most games are won by smart but short plays and capitalizations on small hits, not crazy wombo combos (unless you're watching Mahvel, but that game is pretty much designed around spectacle combos).
Find one that feels good to you. I played fighting games very casually until KI came out. Then I was in the top 1k online because it just clicked with me
Literally impossible since there will always be several people better than you if you aren't already good. There's no hope unless you go back in time and ensure you were born with the korean/japanese game genie gene.
you stop playing them
literally no reason to get good at a dead genre
practice and do . fundamentals go a long way.
If it has AI then play on the hardest difficulty until it's boring and easy, then play against real people.
>finish tutorial
>pick a character and do basic missions
>go to discord for w.e game and face a newbie
>watch gameplay for w.e character you are playing and build a proper neutral
>keep playing online
>find combos from w.e character specific discord you are in
Lmao. Brainlete
legitimately NEVER do this, seriously
RP as Lucoa getting blacked. Then you'll be good.
You work for it. You practice and you play and every time you lose you think about why you lost and how to prevent it.
the brainlets are the ones wasting time on a dead genre
This actually is a very good point and advice.
Become a japan
also don't play 20 different fighting games if you are new. pick one and build proper fundamentals, they'll transfer over to other games. don't expect to get good by putting in time and grinding training, you have to face real people and learn.
Find a game you like and focus on it.
Find 2 (maybe 3 depending on the complexity of the game) characters you like and focus on them. Don’t go for straight meta picks based on tier lists, but also don’t pick like the worst or second worst character, either.
Learn fundementals.
Learn how the rest of the cast kinda works. I.E. who is rush down, who is zoned.
Learn your characters’ combos, starting with safe ones for consistent damage. Then pivot into the bigger ones.
Finally try to play people locally. If not play exclusively in your region and search for good connections only. You won’t learn much playing WiFi warriors across the world.
Truth
>You have to face real people and learn
>Not gud
>Lose so fast you can't learn.
>"Lol noob"
>[You have been kicked from the lobby] / [Your opponent has left the match]
people like you never participated in anything competitive ever.
truly pathetic.
watch the replay then, that'll teach you where you fucked up. Pretty much every modern fighter has a replay function where you can record and watch back your matches.
Play ranked. That way you don’t get stomped. However getting stomped IRL isn’t a big deal because nobody is going to shit on a newbie for getting bodied unless he’s a poser and you learn a lot more by being next to the other person.
What are fundamentals
Give me a guide or something a list of things to learn and master
Unironically this
>you can't improve because other people have improved
what
why are all mangas about fighting games either have a shit story or end fast
spacing, mindgames, actually understanding your tools.
you wont find guides for most of those things, but there's anti air and whiffpunish tutorials from people like juicebox that are good.
it's game dependent. literally search up what ever game and you'll find a tutorial on it.
>why are all mangas about fighting games either have a shit story or end fast
Being true to the genre. No game is more one-sided than the fighting game, so the story - like the game, ends fast.
These.
I'd recommend joystick but I don't know the current consensus of fighting game
t.arcadefag
learn a game from scratch with a friend. it's faster and funner than watching stupid tutorial videos or getting owned online
practice and reflect on every match
find your weaknesses and work to get better
watch other people that are good and think critically about what they're doing and why
Well with expert chads like yourself in the game, why would I bother trying when I know I'd get my ass served up on a platter?
You forget.
>Not gud
>Going into ranked against people who play fighting games will be different?
desu might be too old to even consider road tripping from the bumfuck nowhere I live in, 3 hours to the nearest scene.
defend and then, when you aren't defending, attack!
t.Skips Tips
Tried to do this with Cross Tag. One friend really clicked with the game and utterly drove 4 others including myself away, due to how pointless it was to try and play them. We're all trash and that player ascended, so we left them to play that ranked.
just fucking kill yourself
dumb for people who aren't good or new
if you lose and you didn't land a hit, how are you going to be able to think about how you fucking lost!?
Sticks aren't really essential nowadays, at least if you're playing modern games. Plenty of pros play on gamepads.
it wont be faster because even two guys wont figure stuff out as fast as thousands of people online.
you should still play with friends though, but also look up stuff and get involved with better players.
what? what makes you think that landing a hit what make you think about it?
>if you lose and you didn't land a hit
That's basically me trying to learn Tekken 7. Do anything? Blocked or avoided and punished for trying to play the game. Demoralizing as FUCK.
Ah someone else who read that oku hiroya manga. In his defense, he can't right an ending for shit. Hell he can't even write a final arc for shit.
just keep playing man
I'm trash at fighting games and doing combos, but I try my best with grabs and other tools to try and get ahead, as long as you have your BnB you can pull out wins
Also connecting to your router helps a ton
>Want to learn King Tekken
>Too brainlet to even memorize all the throws
>Turns out good players can just break out every time.
I think I have the wrong game.
Have sex
like with any character in tekken, you should learn a little at a time. there are numerous guides out there with the most useful moves for each character and why they're good, and they usually add up to around 10-20 moves. way easier to start with than the 100 or so total.
with king, just learning how to buffer giant swing and tijuana twister is already a great start. add more throws and eventually chain grabs as you go and get comfortable using them
Start from the ground up and learn the game's systems/mechanics. From there pick a character and drill their buttons and basic shit into your head before going to learn fancy combos. Knowing a million combos is useless shit if you can't open someone up or don't know the exact use of your basic moves. If you have any trouble with inputs just grind until your execution is decent.
Go full autistic and play the rest of the cast as well to know their moves. Use the training dummy to set up tough scenarios that catch you a lot. Use replays to improve yourself. And the obvious one here is find other players to constantly play with, but always branch out since you can form bad habits playing the same dudes over and over. Don't be afraid to add people online. When I was playing SF4 a lot I'd get guys that whooped my ass, but they were usually really cool about giving tips and rematching. Most were pumped when I started giving them good fights and it was satisfying to finally get wins. Also don't feel bad if you need to step away after frustrating losses, but always reflect on them to improve.
same
no scene near me, i could make one, but it'd more than likely be smash and melee at that.
fuck melee comp.
F U N D A M E N T A L S
Any tips for jump force
>When I was playing SF4 a lot I'd get guys that whooped my ass, but they were usually really cool about giving tips and rematching
This is one thing I really love about fighting games. Yeah, there are some faggots out there that just want to call you trash and leave, but most people will help if you ask. I'm pretty shit myself but whenever I get someone newer from me asking me something I'm always thrilled to help and play them as much as I can.
does she actually do that in game?
>mindgames
only little bitches use mind games
You play good instead of bad.
t. no mind
I agree with , but I'm going to add on to what they said.
Training mode can be great for learning combos, but it's also great for finding out what each moves use is if you know what to look for. With enough experience, you can get pretty deep into understanding how a game functions just from practicing in the training room. However, if you don't have an understanding of universal concepts and fundamentals present in all fighting games, as well as how to apply them to learning a new title, then you're better off learning them by fighting real people.
Hope you get better, OP. You can do it, I'm sure.
You practice until you grind out muscle memory.
nope
Post the JAV
you quit and just fap to the porn
>discord
no thanks
Keep playing, analyzing what you lose to and find solutions to them. Focus on improving one interaction at a time. Try to understand how the game is played and why people pick the options that they do instead of others. If you dont know their options then discover them.
learn frame data and stop throwing out moves that are -10 or more on block unless you can whiff punish.
Even at high level people sometimes lose without hitting once, it means your offense failed vs their defense..
Find one that you enjoy and learn match ups, that's the most important part. I play a melee only character in a game filled with characters that can hit you from across the screen so I have to learn when to go in and block. Learn basic bitch combos and learn how to adjust to whatever attack you hit with first since a lot of first hits can change how you do a combo.
I wish I played fighting games with Az.
Enkidu?
Jason?
Tina? Why are you here?
Mark?
Nope, the strongest executor, who only failed because she missed every mark by one score.
Only if you reveal your reason for wanting to improve or even play a game that has almost no actual gameplay. Even the fan service in that game is awful.
I've never really cared about fighting games, but Samurai Showdown looks pretty fun. Is it a good start?
This animation reminds me of Ace Attorney.
It's great for fundamentals but be prepared to get your can kicked in against those who have mastered said fundamentals.
My experience in SamSho V has shown me the combo game is short but sweet and you dish out heavy damage for quality reads on your opponent.
yeah its short on combos/execution and heavy on fundamentals.
dunno if the game will survive the launch though.
I guess this would be the thread to ask.
And what are some good current fighting games that isn't SFV? SFV isn't really cutting it for me, and I would prefer to get into a newer fighting game with a ranked mode, and bigger player base(when compared to older fighting games).
if that's what you want, wait for the new samurai showdown and get in on the ground floor
I was thinking about getting into the Grandblue fighting game when that comes out, but SS looks pretty cool. Maybe I'll get them both.
if you like footsies sure, but he's considered low tier, but theres a player who's placed high with him, takashi is his name i think.
blazblue cf
blazblue crosstag battle
UNIST (lots of newbies because it got announced at EVO)
guilty gear xrd rev 2
Samurai Shodown (soon)
only big games now are sfv, tekken and dbz.
mkxi soon.
soul calibur is still populated too.
games like unist require discord.
For online the only equivalents from basic ranked matchmaking where you'll find games with varying opponents more easily are Tekken 7, Smash Ultimate and DBFZ.
MK11 when that comes out is also likely to have a good sized playerbase.
Otherwise even mainstream anime games (BBTAG, GG Xrd, UNIST) will have much smaller player pools in ranked matchmaking.
You'll have to discord challenge or find people here or in /vg/ to play varied games with anything not in the first group or SFV easily.
UNIST does have nightly threads Sunday-Thursday so it does have a consistent group of players here if you wanted to give go.
Tekken 7 has a huge playerbase, but it's obviously pretty different from SFV.
UNIST is pretty fun, came out in 2018, but it doesn't really have that many players. That said, there's nightly threads here on Yea Forums that sets up lobbies to play together. The game is kind of a cross between street fighter and an anime game, so it might be a bit familiar.
DBFZ is only a year old and has plenty of people, although it's wildly different from street fighter. Pretty noob friendly, but might not be the best for learning
It's fun_________ ________ ______ __ ___ ____ _____
But it's like not fun though.
And all those characters I like so much look horrible because everything in that game looks impressively bad except for the particle effects.
>tfw am now considered one of the best 3s players in my state
I'm mostly disappointed with Kenshiro's voice and lack of omae wa mou shindeiru and I agree that the characters look pretty shit but I still find it fun
I've heard high level 3s is extremely unfun
Not him but they finally add playable Shiryu in a JUMP crossover game and it has to be Jump Force. I wish the team that did JUS would stop making One Piece games and make another JSS/JUS for the current generation.
you probably heard that from some retard who doesn't play 3s at a high level
I've heard it from Kuroda
i actually kidna gave up on being good at fighting games and i only play casual players now and do dumb shit.
I am just too bad to be good at it. It is honestly kidan sad. I tried it again with dbfz but i made it my last fighting game.
>457860485
got a chuckle out of me.
I hear every advice out there and did everyting i could in multiple games but i still suck ass.
>Falling for the actually playing fighting games meme
You idiot. You're supposed to only watch streams and jack off to the characters.
Develop severe autism and study combo lists like you're studying for a math test
That's quitter talk, I care about fighting games because they provide a level of satisfaction that other mediums cannot provide and it does it on a pretty consistent span of time. It's also really easy to make friends with other people who also are into the same fighting games or even fighting games in general. If a small amount of effort and occasional frustration is all it takes to reap these benefits I'm happy with that trade off.
what game has the best girls?
> If a small amount of effort and occasional frustration
thats not how it goes for me, it is usually a lot of both with little payoff
practice, studying, dedication and patience. But there's also a point where innate talent will supersede acquired skill. So, if you're asking how to stop being bad on Yea Forums you're probably already at the threshold that you should relent and give in and try a genre better suited for someone like you, like corridor shooters.
Man and I thought I was mediocre, glad I'm not like you
I have extremely retarded fingers and have trouble with even intermediary level execution in any game I play and my reaction time is also not great. I still find a way to play and compete with people much more naturally talented than I am because there are so many different ways to get "payoff" in fighting games.
i dont. i usually get boddied or can't even put up a fight against most players. i just kidna suck ass and tried eveything to not suck so much. Sadly nothing came of it in multiple games during the years so i just gave up. now i only play third strike every once in a while on fightcade.
>you're asking how to stop being bad on Yea Forums
I see this kind of talk a lot but am hard pressed on thinking of any gaming forum or large community that is better and games.
i actually sopped playing after trying to overcome some dificculties to no avail. i am just too retarded for fightans i guess.
Sounds to me like you're dumping time and effort into the wrong places and getting very little return for it. That doesn't mean you've hit your threshold.
You also don't have to be better than 50% of people to have fun squaring off against someone else.
If someone is way worse than me it's kind of fun to toss them around.
If someone is similar level to me it's really fun having close games.
Anyone I fight who is clearly better than me I learn from and improve from that.
>Sounds to me like you're dumping time and effort into the wrong places and getting very little return for it. That doesn't mean you've hit your threshold.
Like what exactly. i try learning exactly what people advise me too and whatever i feel like learning, like fundamentals, spacing and whatever other stuff the game has bu none of it matter sif i cant apply it during the match
>You also don't have to be better than 50% of people to have fun squaring off against someone else.
Yeah but i ahve to be at least better than some one and win every now and then to see some progress. i think i have a current 80 losses streak on dbfz for example.
the other are just fighting games in general but trying to learn from people who is better than me results in nothing because i always get fucked by the same stuff over and over. so i aint really learning or neing able to aply whatever i learned becasue i always get fucking stomped.
i just reached my potential and sadly it is not a very high one so i'll just stop here before i get more fruntrated
>over at a friend's house
>playing some sets
>he wants to make things more interesting
>loser has to sit in the winner's lap for the rest of the sets
>I lose on purpose
gaaaaaaaaaay
I fucking hate your kind
It's hard to give specific advice with this format which is why when people ask "how do I improve" on the internet the only answer they ever get is "spacing" and "fundamentals". I have no idea what you do wrong during matches or the bad habits you have.
I improve by watching really good people playing my favorite games as my characters and take mental notes of what they do during neutral and why they would do it. I also think about what I would naturally do in those situations and how that would end good or bad for me after seeing what the opponent did.
Like I said I try not to rely on my reaction times or technique, I find success in trying to predict what the opponent is going to do and catching them with something while they're on their way to do it and am surprised with how often I'm right. In this case I am playing to my strengths.
You should find out what you're good at and play into that as hard as you can.
i did all that too and didnt improve a bit. Either I tried really fucking hard too see my flaws and improve on them or simply play by my strenghts but i got none of the latter and havent improved sicne i always falls for the same stuff, and that's that. i'll go sleep now.
Fundamentals are gay as fuck. The only way to lose is to try to win. Try to make sick montage plays even when you aren't recording. Competitive games are a meme unless you got into the highest echelon within the first 6th months. Of playing.
Being good at FGs is hard but usually the answers to wining matches are more simple than most people think.
play For Honor and embrace the cheese
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