Why do people hate the best elder scrolls game again?

why do people hate the best elder scrolls game again?
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cause Yea Forums hates video game skyrim is the best game in the last 20 years

Its as vast as an ocean and deep as a puddle

>please get the thing at the end of the tunnel full of zombies

Has more choice and consequence than Oblivion and Morrowind combined.
So there is that.

Except it empirically does not.

>please kill this dragon who has been nothing but nice to you
>no option to say no
>hundreds of fetch quests
>someone tries to give you a quest you say no they still say “here let me mark it on your map just in case”

reddit the sentence
sounds like the others es games as well
and why the fuck would someone not tell you where it is? it's only realistic for someone giving you a quest to give you the location

Yes it is.
The only debatable point is Do you consider every iteration of the Whodunnit? quest as a choice.
If you do then yes Oblivion does have more choice and consequence than Skyrim.
If you count the quest itself as an example then Skyrim has more than both combined.

Because

>NEW GAME BAD

Skyrim was a direct improvement from oblivion. Once ES6 comes out people will start liking skyrim again.

It is more the contrarians will move on to shitting on the new game.

based

did they always do this?

Couldn't even make myself finish this game due to how little I cared about the story and anything I was doing in it.

literally a lie.

prove it

You are entitled to your own opinion. You are not entitled to your own facts.
There are three quest givers you can betray in Skyrim that I recall off the top of my head.
You can destroy the DB or not
You can choose the Empire or the Stormcloaks.

That is five. Can you find five from either Oblivion or Morrowind?

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>You can destroy the DB or not
>You can choose the Empire or the Stormcloaks.
Literally illusion of choice in both cases.

???
Didn't expect you to give up so easily.

kek he didn't name any

>Literally illusion of choice
so every video game ever?

By that logic every game that has cutscene endings an illusion of choice.
An odd stance to take from the C&C crowd. At least Skyrim it affected the game world.

They usually try to claim the faction rep system is C&C by now.

Only thing skyrim didn't do better is not having everyone recognize you as a fucking dragonslayer

Because if you deny the quest why the fuck are they still giving you the location

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Fuckin kek

it's the truth

Goofy faces and leveled enemies aside it's Oblivion.

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This is the most ironic thing I've seen on here in years

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2nd best

>why do people hate the best elder scrolls game again?
I don't

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Prove me wrong then.
Protip: You can't.

All you have to do is name 5 quests that have choice and consequence from Oblivion and Morrowind to get in the game.

b a s e d a n d r e d p i l l e d

I'll start the doubters off.
You have choosing a great house in Morrowind and Whodunnit? from Oblivion.

You can try the FG/TG conflict but the thing that locks you out isn't really a choice it is more did you do things in the right order.

>be me
>skyrim released (2011)
>be a kid
>first RPG
>first elder scrolls game
>all my normie friends, niggers, and women love it
>post about it on Yea Forums for the next 10 years

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I like Skyrim, but it´s not the best TES.

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they can't kek

Over designing is bad

Serana is the best tes waifu

Every elder scrolls game sucks to be honest. Yes, even Morrowind. It had some good parts but most of it was mediocre snoozefest

I totally agree. Over-designing games is not good if you want faggots and kids to play your game so you can make millions of dollars.

People like you literally ruined the hobby and you don't even know it :^)

Because it's the worse vanilla and Yea Forums are console kids.

Completely forgettable characters, quests, locations.
Maybe two or three exceptions at most

I know.
There are around twenty quests that have C&C from Skyrim.
That is not including the negotiations from Season Unending or the Hangover inspired quests.

The ones that scoff just assumed they were right.
Wouldn't surprise me if one was scouring the internet trying to prove me wrong.

I played Skyrim when it first came out and never since. I remember the main story and dark brotherhood, that's about it. Is it worth revisiting with all the DLC?

How did it get ruined?
There are still companies that are pumping out nostalgia bait for that audience.

>Is it worth revisiting with all the DLC?
DragonBorn DLC is goat

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What you said was overdesigning is bad, what you meant was “literally any complexity at all for any reason is bad.”

If by "vast" you mean the entire country of Skyrim can be walked across in 10 minutes, then sure.

Vast as an ocean and deep as a puddle

tryhard
skyrim dungeons are much better than the others
especially morrowinds

dawnguard was better

i swear ive seen this thread before

great minds think alike

Last thread someone helped me find some kino cunny mods and I'm currently having a blast replaying this game

Skyrim has a nice somewhat gritty atmosphere that the other tes games just don't have
loved the soul cairn and Morthal

>sounds like the others es games as well
the other elder scrolls games aren't good either

>cunny mods
LINK

in mw you can tell the mainquest to go fuck itself, kill a living god, and even after the game tells you you fucked up hard, you can loot an artifact from his corpse, find a diseased extinct dwarf to niggerrig it to work as long as you basically die putting it on and carry on to fuck up fargoth ur

google allthefallen skyrim and you'll find most of it