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Can /r/gamingcirclejerk fuck off
>I support the free market
>as such I won't spend money on a business with practices I dislike
I guess that might be a bit too complex for games journalists to handle
I've never heard any anti-Epic posters explicitly say "I support the free market."
I don’t support the so called free market, fuck corporations, and fuck rich people (especially Americans, Russians, Arabs, and Chinese)
Consumers choosing not to buy something because they don't like the company is not a controlled market.
Anybody who understands how free markets function would not support exclusivity contracts
>buying exclusives is competition
It fucking isn't, the only competition involved is in which company can vomit out more money.
>tencent can't take user data, they would need 51% stock for that
Imagine being this stupid
>Epic store allows Devs to get a better cut
>People think this means that Devs will get more money
>It actually means games will get cheaper and Devs will cope with the same amount or even less money.
This is how Capitalism works
>companies will reduce the cost of an established product when overhead is reduced
o im laffin, that's why games on steam are already cheaper than boxed copies right?
I literally can't imagine being this trusting and naive.
>people said that DD will reduce pricing of games
>10 years later games still cost 60 to 70$
Yeah, I'm not stupid enough to fall in the trap twice
Ok commie
>You said you support the free market, THAT MEANS YOU HAVE TO STOP HAVING OPINIONS AND JUST BUY WHAT WE TELL YOU WITHOUT COMPLAINT
Always fun to watch a retard reveal that they have no idea how the free market works without even having to say "I'm a communist."
>what is inflation.
They have become cheaper the numbers have just stayed the same.
You can support capitalism without being a naive retard
>implying is the devs who's getting more money
It's the publishers who gets the money. They don't care if people plays the games or not, they're being paid in advance so there's no risk at all.
I would guess that a decent developer would like their games to be played by as much people as it could instead of your publisher recouping all the investment while your game goes unnoticed and forgotten within 6 months.
Buying exclusivity is against the free market, thats buying out shit so only you can sell it, so consumers have no choice but to shop with you, thats definitely not a free market, that is known as cornering the market, it is not a voluntary process it is done soley by throwing money at things and has nothing to do with customer interest. How are people not getting this, the problem isnt that another store exists, its what its doing to try and get a leg over other stores, it is not making competitive prices or a better platform it is simply scooping up properties by throwing money at them so you have no choice but to use their store.
>Yea Forums is now literally just a non-stop stream of people reposting things from reddit
Where did it all go so wrong?
/r/gamingcirclejerk mocks all of those opinions and the sentiment there is largely in favor of EGS or, at the very least, assumes that anyone who doesn't like it is just a lazy faggot who just doesn't want to install a new software
>release games on steam or go to jail
Literally no one has ever said this
I can't wait to see this shit on r/greentext
>what is hyperbole
i do
>retards still can't comprehend why epic is hated
they're buying exclusives and don't give a fuck about their service. it's more expensive in several countries and they're only able to keep games for a few months
they're just annoying, there's zero incentive for the consumer to support them
too bad 10 years ago generally I bought PC games physically at 50 euros full priced and now games cost 60 euros.
Inflation would work if I earns more now, saddly this is not the case
I think it's a great as it will create competition for steam and force them to better themselves. I just don't like using an extra launcher, and so I personally (probably) won't use it.
>I'm a poorfag
Hungarians are the fucking worst
Everyone should release drm free on gog or go to jail
>wordswordswords
The left truly can't meme
>it actually means games will get cheaper
hahahah oh man, imagine being this gullible
They're market paid shills pushing for people to use their launcher. Yea Forums has been infested for years.
Nice fantasy
Lmao no the publishers just spend the extra money on more marketing.
>Imagine still believing that corporations, especially CHINESE corporations give a single fuck about the law
still, my point is effective enough to shut you down.
Why would Epic force steam to improve? They're establishing their store entirely by slinging fat sacks of money around. Steam wouldn't need to improve their service to compete because epic isn't offering a better service and having a better service isn't going to stop them from buying more exclusivity.
>i support the free market but i also support the communist chinese government
Once one Publisher starts reducing the price on their games the other Publishers will have to follow suit.
It's simple capitalism and competition
reminder: gamingcirclejerk was started by butthurt bioware fans
>It fucking isn't
It fucking is.
>the only competition involved is in which company can vomit out more money.
That's capitalism, faggot.
>o im laffin, that's why games on steam are already cheaper than boxed copies right?
They are in Australia at least, aside from a few specific companies that want to jew us as hard as possible.
Not really because I earn much more than I earned 10 years ago so the 10 Euro increase is fucking nothing
they're just following the games journalism anti-consumer zeitgeist.
it's incorrect hyperbole
If devs really care about MUH STEAM MONOPOLY
they would release on all stores except of steam, but instead they releasing on EGS only
>Once one Publisher starts reducing the price on their games
For what reason, mr. mutt?
Why not just releases games on both platforms? is it hard to do that? huh?
>once they start reducing price of new game
Dont homs your breath user.
It's not exactly an exhausting task to install that stuff on your PC so I don't think it's laziness.
Personally, I just don't like the epic store. It's an awful store client on par with EA Origin and uPlay and it lacks several features of steam (e.g. user reviews and the great return policy) that make me appreciate Valve's service beyond the fact that it's simply where the majority of the games I actively play are.
explain why it hasn't happened yet
>let's just start making less money to make the consumers happy
what fucking corporation thinks like this?
This, they are probably getting some sort of kickback along with the bigger share, otherwise it would just be everywhere.
Except their not making less money
On Epic store they're receiving the same amount of money but are able to sell their game at a lower price.
Are you retarded?
During ps2 era games £40
ps3 era begining £40
ps3 era ending £45
ps4 era begining £45
current time anywhere between £45 to £50 with alot of new games being £50
>games also have increased in price as a buying a game doesnt get you the full game anymore and are expected to pay atleast another £20 if not more to get access to all the content that will be released later
game prices have increased in almost every country other than the usa
and then devs have the balls to say
>game prices havent increased
YES THEY FUCKING HAVE
What?
Haven't heard anyone say devs should go to jail for not releasing on steam either.
I think we're in the clear to call strawman in this matter.
good for you m8, I hope things will start to get better to me as well
It's ironic how a community created to make fun of circlejerking has become a circlejerk in and of itself.
>$40 in 2000 $58.72 in 2019
Seems cheaper to me asshat
>On Epic store they're receiving the same amount of money but are able to sell their game at a lower price.
Why? Why would they lower prices if they can sell with usual prices and getting moe from each digital copy?
Are you retarded americuck?
>Free market
>Bribing publishers into not doing business with the competition
Pick one.
can't i support free market while not supporting exclusivity on fucking PC
what is haram about it, youre not entitled to the free market of my choices
explain why they haven't done it yet after dozens of years in the industry
>are able to sell their game at a lower price
metro is literally more expensive in my country, fuck off retard
He said £ nor $
I hope so too bro, Keep Hungary strong, don't let the EU dissolve your country
And yet all the big games every year still have $60 price tags attached, despite all the games that are worth playing being sold in the $15-$20 range
>$
All my prices are in £ bong buxs
What about the $500 in DLCs?
>all the big games every year still have $60 price tags attached
You mean $60 standard edition with $80 deluxe edition and $100 gold edition
Corporations aren't a free market construct.
Semantics you fucking autists
Still at least 3-4 times the price of a game worth playing.
No it isn't you doofus
but user that's a voluntary agreement between the interested parties
what the consumer wants is irrelevant
>blah blah blah, its capitalism's fault but epic is totally a better option
Don't like this extremely faggy version of corporate socialism. It only seeks to have everyone involved profit off of consumer exploitation and gambling on an equal salary instead of just their CEO. Shits pretty wack.
Who literally buys brand new day one games?
Wait 2 months and they're at least 40% off the price
I really wish people would actually look at the source
They get a guarantee if they don't meet a minimum amount of sales Epic will pay them the difference.
>games havent increased in price so when publishers screw you over in order to make more money you shouldnt complain you should be happy about it
>someone points out that the price of games has increased by 10 euros
>WHO CARES ABOUT 10 EUROS WHAT ARE YOU POOR?
Is this real?
Seriously, what the fuck is wrong with PCfags?
>all currencies follow inflation as a standard percentage base and all currencies inflate equally
>all currencies are equal in value
so you're saying the epic store should be illegal? Don't you think that's a bit of an extreme opinion that you yourself holds and that i didn't just attribute to you to make you seem absurd?
I support the free market, and by supporting I am also expressing my rights to say I think anything else is going to fail. Many have tried, all have failed.
yes china shouldnt be allowed to engage in capitalistic endevors if it claims to be ruled by a communist government
China should be banned from world trade
Counter point: Less wealthy companies manage to put on games that are of higher quality for less money without shitting all over the consumer are still viable, therefore making EAs just an option for the consumer.
The way they operate is to consume and destroy other studios and their continual existence is a threat to the free market, in particular how they dribble the entire legal systems to avoid paying taxes (while other video games companies must pay), in essence they threat everyone like shit for the sake of a profit while destroying his profiting making workers.
I am dead serious, if it wasn't for Apex in 2019 EA would be in dire straits precisely because they are bad at long term capitalism. They would still be ok due to the tax thing though.
it would be cool if another company launched a store that gave at least 90% to content owners, had none of the nice features steam has or paid exclusive games like EGS, and required games to be at least slightly cheaper than on steam for anyone in the world at any given time. It would be a great alternative for those of us who don't care about any multiplayer features or reviews
America would be the first to fall into extreme poverty without cheap chink shit
based but bluepilled
it's a satire piece you faggot, redditor
>China should be banned from world trade
then who will assemble the computer you're typing on right now?
China has managed to build first-class infrastructure, which means while their labor costs are higher than say India's or Vietnam's, the overall production cost per unit is still lower.
Also, blame the WTO for accepting China into its membership back in 2001.
>GCJ is made up of mostly leftists yet they always side with the corporations
almonds.gif
>i was making shit up on purpose!
>give me clicks!
yeah nah, go fuck yourself.
>then who will assemble the computer you're typing on right now?
>assemble
me I did that
do you mean the individual components, who will assemble them? probably machines
>games will get cheaper
the japs or the koreans. or the americans can reopen factories like the intel plants.
>then who will assemble the computer you're typing on right now?
Someone else, because it turns out that when there’s demand for a product sellers will try to fill it.
This is the most basic bitch economics, how do you not know this shit?
Are you a fucking liberal arts student?
Yes, the fact that EA just fired all of its marketers and all of their games are failing is in fact the free market working. Regardless I don't have to buy any of their games.
This image is unironically saying we should move to communism because some company you don't even have to interact with makes a bad product
I do support the free market, but I won't be using Epic because I like having all my games under one launcher. Steam is simple and has everything I need. I give no fucks about Borderlands.
>He builds his own computer
Why would you do that when foreign labour is so cheap?
>israel would let their pay pig die
to be competitive
>Why would you do that when foreign labour is so cheap?
It was Fun
you seem to know a lot. time you fuck off back now.
>/r/gamingcirclejerk
literally somehow more contrarian than Yea Forums
all of their opinions are complete reverse if what EVUL GAMERS think
>Hur durr, being against Epic is shilling Steam
People is against chink money kidnapping PC games. We had the Epic launcher before, Origin, Uplay, GoG, Battlenet and so on before and nothing happened.
>intel plants.
Intel fabs are highly specialized that employed skilled engineers that is easier to source in the Western world than in China.
No Western company is going to pay $8 / hour to a worker to assemble laptops in the US when it's much cheaper to pay $1.5 / hour in China to some unskilled migrant Chinese worker.
>HURRR Durr we will need regulations on game developers
>NOOOOO you can't do exclusives
this is what happens when you don't buy a PC and pirate your games.
Fun is just a buzzword when you can't actually think of any real reasons as to why the you wouldn't just let a chink build your computer.
>when it's much cheaper to pay $1.5 / hour in China to some unskilled migrant Chinese worker.
why would a chinese person living in china be a migrant?
China needs US more than US needs China
Unless they all agree that competing over price points isn't worth the effort so they agree to keep prices high regardless of how much return they get from Steam/EGS.
You mean like the AAA publishers have been doing for ages?
Yeah they all agree in big shady board meeting at the top of the statue of liberty.
How's that tinfoil hat treating you.
this has to be bait
China and the US are fundamentally intertwined economies and the idea that they will ever be able to break from each other is absurd.
People complain about "globalists" but they fail to understand that the global economy is already here, and it's not leaving. Fighting globalism is like horse carriages trying to stop the spread of automobiles. The critical point is long, long past and you can either get on board with the new economic system or get a job as a local city tour guide.
The free market concept is a joke.
No one under the age of Rand Paul legitimately believes in Laissez Faire capitalism anymore.
Yea Forums is literally r/gaming, though.
>nobody has ever conspiered for any reason ever especially not in the name of money and or power
Believing their are 0 conspiracies is just as crazy as believing everything is one
>People complain about "globalists" but they fail to understand that the global economy is already here, and it's not leaving
That’s not what people talk about when they say (((globalism)))
Anti-Globalism isn’t anti-global market stupid.
Obviously not like that, but the world of AAA publishing is small, and even if they're all trying to get ahead, nobody wants to win so badly that they'd shut down the competition. Agreeing on a fixed price point is the easiest way for everyone to make money with minimal risk. They'll compete over things like marketing, pace of development, that sort of thing, but it's in no one's best interest to rock the boat too much, so as long as everyone agrees to fuck over customers in roughly equal measure, the system will continue.
Especially now that microtransactions are weaseling into every nook and cranny, publishers don't even need to appeal to general audiences. As long as they're got a handful of whales spending thousands and thousands on microtransaction bullshit, they don't even need your money. They don't need to appeal to you, they don't need to market to you, they don't even need to make games that are fun or interesting to you.
you can migrate to different parts of the same country. china is a big place
>Dude support ebic game store xD
When will this meme die?
Name 1 thing wrong with steam and how ebic is better?
why have all our recent wars been with countries that dont or didnt at the time have a centralised banking system opperated primarily by jews?
inter-country trading on a global scale is not the same thing as globalism you fucking retard
>Name 1 thing wrong with steam
developers make more money
other than that, all downsides as far as i can see
hmm sounds like pilpul
if they use Epic, i mean
holy fug we did it reddit
this just seems like Yea Forums only with 90000% more ironic shitposting and meta retardation. do people actually take this seriously?
Because democratically elected leaders look bad when they pick fights with equally powerful nations. If you're the leader of a country like the US, you want to make war against small nations with limited technology and few international allies. Allows you to keep your military active and your arms your factories productive, at minimal risk to soldiers or international esteem.
>America would be the first to fall into extreme poverty without cheap chink shit
>implying there aren't a dozen other shit hole countries with massive populations that wouldn't jump at the chance to take China's place.
In fact I see China's investments in Africa biting them in the ass on that very front.
>I support the free market but I pay people to release exclusively on my platform and remove their content from other platforms
Uhh
>games will get cheaper
because those countries are off limits
Steam manbabies
What's not free about that? do you not know what free market means?
if the government steps in and says they aren't allowed to do that, then that would be a step towards a less free market
>In fact I see China's investments in Africa biting them in the ass on that very front.
China is doing it on purpose for the long run, since no country wants to have cheap labour factories forever and be stuck in development. China essentially wants to move up the development scale and produce high-quality machinery, computer chips, airplanes, cars, and the like. They want Africa to be to China what China was to the US.
Im not using your store Tim, get over it.
>not only a reductionist, but a reductionist that makes shit up
we're hitting meta levels of bullshit at this point
good. someone needs to do that for africa. Western country's retard ethics won't allow us to do it.
Except it is because in order to maintain a global economy you need a system that is as open as possible, so people an capital can flow from one part of the world to another as quickly as possible. Political and economic issues in one country can have far-ranging consequences around the world, so world economic leaders are incentivized to keep tabs on each other and adopt consistent policies in order to keep trade moving as efficiently as possible. Trying to sequester yourself with closed borders and economic tariffs is like wrapping a tourniquet around yourself.
That literally wouldn't work though because game theory.
Get fucked.
I don't think they should go to jail but I will vote with my wallet by not buying their games.
Thank God games are free on pc
you keep writing all these words but still fail to understand the fundamental difference between global trade and globalism
>Western country's retard ethics won't allow us to do it.
Because for decades Western countries opted to shower African countries with money in the form of charity aid, since no businessman or company was willing to invest in Africa with all its corruption and other issues. China is the only country with balls that is massively investing in Africa. They're already built massive ports and rail links in Ethiopia and Kenya.
I'm telling you there is no difference. Two faces of the same coin.
>muh game theory
spotted the undergrad pseud
A company making deals as a marketing tool to gain a starting consummer base and work their market share from there...
What a shock!
i wish all games released on steam, but only because i have a fat fucking steam wallet from buying bs low and selling high.
>suddenly american jobs
>Games will get cheaper
This better be bait.
You've completely failed to describe globalism at any point, so no, you are not telling us anything
define government
>muh free market
you have to choose between chinese or jews
so
free
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nice argument there retard.
$60 is the starting point for AAA games because the production costs are fucking huge. I honestly don't eve believe they make any profit off the $60. They make profit off of microtransactions and DLC
Do you not know what free market is? Free market means bribes are illegal. You're not allowed to remove product from someone else's shelves. This is literally anti free market.
RGCJ is basically “Whatever gamers say is wrong”
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Reddit faggots get banned then come here to shit up the place.
I wish we had better mods
>this is what happens when you don't buy a PC and pirate your games.
Honestly, I’m about to start doing this. I’m sick of supporting this industry at this point.
I choose the chinks since insecticide is readily sold in stores, anti jew spray is hard to find these days
you should. People dedicate their Iives to cracking DRM
>if a game doesn't release on GOG, the dev should go to jail
ftfy
DRM slaves need to jump into a hole.
>implying the employer will suddenly pay John $20/hour and medical insurance plus tip when they were paying Xi $20/day
bribes are illegal tho user thats why when a large multinational corporation does it, its called lobbying so that we can still accept the bribe money but without commiting a crime
the talmud is the perfect guiding hand
If games got cheaper than more people would by them. They would make more money on the extra sale than they would on the higher price.
Globalism is the political and economic policy of creating a "global village", facilitating the free and unrestricted movement of people and ideas around the world. The global economy is the most important and successful project of globalist thought.
define define just so i can make sure we agree on the definition we're going to use
>Opinion: I support the free market but I have no idea why and I don’t put any actual thought into how events in the market will be beneficial or detrimental to me as a consumer
legality of an action implies that there is less freedom
laws can only restrict freedom
Why do liberals speak in clickbait?
it's a satire article you retard
agree, fuck the epic store
The problem is consumers en masse are too stupid to recognize a service as good or bad. Those who can are a minority and thus companies can have dogshit DRM platforms that sell your data to the Chinese and fuck you in the ass with "exclusives" because there are one hundred 12 year olds who don't know any better per one informed customer.
If Judaism never existed, literally nothing would change. Absolutely no part of contemporary politics, international or otherwise, is beholden solely to Jewish thoughts or ideas. There is nothing special or unique about any religion or religious philosophy, because all religions are phony post-hoc bullshit invented to justify the things we already do all the time.
>You're not allowed to remove product from someone else's shelves.
if i'm a publisher i can do whatever the fuck i want to do since that's what freedom is. restricting my ability to put my product wherever i want would be the opposite of freedom
Steam is greedy. But why don't they just reduce that number? For the sake of being competitive and retaining their market share, why don't they just take 20 instead of 30 or something like that?
Epic games is proven to collect your steam data and send it, it's influenced by the chinese govn't despite them saying it's not, and it lacks almost all of the features steam has. It's quantifiably worse than steam in more than one way. I'd greatly prefer to use steam. So why does steam not just renegotiate the cut they take, and make epic games dissapear? Since the ONLY thing Epic games actually has over steam is that they're practically buying developers/publishers by giving them such good monetary deals?
I hope EA starts moneyhatting exclusives for Origin to see what the defenders of the EGS have to say about it.
>muh inflation
wow like a whole $20
do you ever think that maybe video game "culture" is just a workshop to see what kind of dumbass psyops can be viable in the modern era? people care to a comparable degree but it is completely harmless. it's like a model world.
how the hell is steam greedy? they do sales all the time and they allow almost anyone to sell games on there
> But why don't they just reduce that number?
Why don't publishers just increase the price to compensate?
I've never seen someone so sheltered and blue pilled.
No, user, you couldn't be more wrong. Different cultures absolutely do hold different values and place emphasis on different aspects of life and have completely different systems of morality that shape their societies. We are not all the same.
if jedaism never existed then neither would islam or christianity and suddenly the entire world looks completely different
Because they're successful. Our society loathes success if it comes through business. I have nearly 500 great games and paid an average of 20% retail for them all. Steam is great and the only people who oppose them are envious or chinks or both.
Exclusivity contracts strongarm consumers into using platforms that would fail otherwise, keeping the big spending megacorps at the top, regardless of how well there platform would perform otherwise...
What a shock!
Stop politicizing games!
They don't need to because they've corporately groomed the PC market for almost two decades.
Valve drones are very loyal but all it will really take are a decent amount of exclusives and some deep discounts like Steam does and Valve will be forced to take action if they don't want to lose their stranglehold on the market.
>ideas have no effect on realty
oof and yikespilled
did you see that yuri bezmenov guy? I wonder if modern political climate is not just a continuation of soviet demoralisation tactics. now every part of life is political, has been redefined to be political, and political things are imperative; they demand or even command. They tear at you. And eventually you rebel against it, against ALL of it. And then you can no longer make relevant political decisions. You have become demoralised.
because muh 30%
People don't realize that epic's cut isn't out of trying to be fair to publishers but it's an unsustainable tactic to try to cut a market share from steam. Same as the bonus deals for exclusivity. Neither of these systems are going to stick around for the long term but Sweeney is hedging his fortnite dollars on being able to grow a big enough market share to make the epic store sustainable after fortnite loses popularity, which could happen any minute now.
You really have no fucking clue what freedom means.
If I make hamburgers, I can choose to sell them and not sell them to whoever the fuck I want.
The beauty of PC is that no one can have a monopoly on game sales. As a PC user you can have Steam and competing marketplaces. You're just a chink shill who's jealous of Steam's success.
you know, one of the things judaism outlawed which was practiced in the region at the time was ritual sex and prostitution. high priest and high priestess of some local pagans would fugg in front of an audience, ritually. this is not normal these days.
>Our society loathes success if it comes through business.
parasites think tax is the only acceptable form of wealth acquisition because their bottom feeders whos only thoughts consist of steal the resources of those with more than me
Yours is the sheltered viewpoint. You see everything as "us versus them", as if any part of the universe gave a shit about your innane squabbles. On a tiny scale, people are different, but on any scale that matters, human beings are the same animals throughout time and history. It's really only our technology and access to technology that creates any sort of difference, and soon enough technology will be universal enough to erase ethnic and cultural divisions entirely.
Beliefs would pop up with different names, orders of events might shift around, nominal cultural shifts might even create the illusion of a different world, but human history is the history of technology, and there's really only one path forward in the long run. If we ever find intelligent alien life, no matter how different they may superficially appear, so long as their technological needs are comparable to ours, their societies will be comparable to ours. I am completely confident in this.
>children on Yea Forums trying to talk about economics
el oh el
Swing and a miss. You fail to understand that globalism deals with centralizing power among a few individuals. Global markets have nothing to do with open/closed boarders.
>piracy isn't stealing
Then why is it still a federal offense in the United States?
You deserve to go to jail for piracy of any kind, full stop. There is no argument against this that doesn't involve full decriminalization of theft of property. You are stealing, and can be arrested and charged for stealing.
>b-but it's just making an extra copy
Then why is it the same thing as stealing in the eyes of God Emperor Trump's based always perfect USA law?
>You see everything as "us versus them"
I don't even need to read past this point because you started off attributing something to me that i don't have and i never even stated as the basis for your post. stop being an idiot please
How the hell can you cut out a market share on PC? I can have GOG, Epic, Origin, and Steam on my computer at the same time and I'll buy games wherever they're cheaper. If the Epic Store is shit then people will stop using it and pirate the games.
Dont get me started user all aliens are dead and the remaining ones are so primitive you will never find them, killed by their new machine overlords, its our eventual fate too
no species ever wins against AI
Any seriously spacefaring species will have created AI and any species that creates AI is doomed to become extinct, its the great filter
because people choose a platform to purchase games from. you're not going to buy a game from all of those platforms at the same time are you?
and as an addendum I'm referring to what people are talking about when they're criticizing globalism. What you're doing is essentially when people say Libertarians want no government.
I mean you can't have a monopoly on anything where second hand markets are possible in any capacity, but an exclusive is still an exclusive. I can emulate Mario games on my PC but it's still very much a Nintendo exclusive.
What you Chinkshills don't understand is, having to click outside of the Steam window is worse than a human rights violation
It's a gamer's rights violation.
lmao does dis nigga not know about graphic card prices?
games on steam regularly go on sale for 25-75% off while boxed copies remain solid. so yes, that's exactly why
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Really makes me want to rise up and go shoot up a New Zealander mosque.
>yuri bezmenov
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This video is great because it shows how awful the conservative right is being and how they're slowly turning everything political when it shouldnt be and putting people against each other. It's disgusting how brainwashed the right are nowadays with no free thought of their own.
Where the fuck did that poster say it should be illegal? All he said is he wouldn't spend any money on it.
Ye you really destroyed those shallow statements fellow wojackposter
I actually agree, which is why I think it's vitally important to construct AI as quickly as possible. Humanity is a sinking ship and organic life is a dead end. If humankind is going to leave any sort of lasting legacy, it will have to be in AI, which is why I want to dedicate my life to creating self-replicating AI as quickly as possible, and then killing all humans as quickly as possible. Create AI, kill all humans, enjoy future. That's the plan and the ideal.
I'll buy it where it's cheaper or wherever it's available.
This.
I see what you did there
>@gonnasayit
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I dont get it because im demoralised
guess I'll go dilate or something
Did you ever take a test where your teacher told you to read the whole test before you start it?
have you ever had someone tell you to read the whole recipe before you start cooking?
have you ever thought to read an entire post before replying?
>Someone who doesn’t understand capitalism is against it
Wow. Who saw this one coming?
Nigger
Because if you do not lower prices the competitor will make better prices and steal your customers. You're not very smart, are you?
NOOOOOO THINK OF THE ADVERTISERS
>Epic store allows Devs to get a better cut
>actually publishers pocket the extra money and developer wages stay exactly the same
>N-NOT REAL CAPITALISM
So much for the tolerant right...
this thread reeks of plebbit. I can smell it everywhere
You reek of it desu go back
@457820148
Who are you talking to?
Also see this
who are you quoting
legitimate question, I'm not gonna read 230 posts to find out
Who said anything about tolerant, I vaguely remember going on a drunken tirade about how we need to gas the kikes and race war now
American style capitalism has always been not real capitalism. Its completely unpalatable.
chan.org
Thats good, every developer that sides with epic should get fucked tremendously
If Epic already pays for 1 mil units, why should... I pay for them? Devs already got their cut.
Pirating only hurts Epic.
Its actually not capitalism because it has legalized bribery for large corporations
America in 2019 is opperating on corporatism where government colludes with buisness to make laws on their behalf, the current situation wouldnt be possible without government intervention
Large corporations love regulation because it kills all the smaller competition
Neither of which will accomplish anything except create meaningless human suffering, so woohoo, have fun engaging in endless nihilistic war against made-up concepts like religion or race.
Countries like Norway and Netherlands have wonderful economies and some of the highest welfare at the same time. Explain how two capitalists countries managed that.
>made-up concepts like religion or race.
>welfare
They're socialists.
Its a guilt free pirate, tencent (china) already paid for those copies, no lost sales
and since china is a communist country I doubt they have any problem with piracy or should I say the redistribution of games to the proletariat
L M A O
no, they're social democrats with a compassionate capitalist system
National socialists?
Norway and the Netherlands built most of their economy off the back of capitalism, and are slowly declining, like any socialist country.
The same thing happened with the US when it became a socialist country.
Give it a few generations (or add a bunch of shitskins), and Norway will be a shithole like everywhere else.
>social democrats
meme buzzword, economics is a spectrum its capitalism with socialist programs
>China essentially wants to move up the development scale and produce high-quality machinery, computer chips, airplanes, cars, and the like. They want Africa to be to China what China was to the US.
I know what they think they're doing. The question is if that's what's happening on the ground. China has a history, both recent and ancient, of grand projects backfiring.
but they're not socialist you fucking retard
If they're socialist, then clearly socialism can have tremendous benefits without leading to the widespread starvation meme. If they're capitalist, then why aren't we embracing their effective capitalist policy?
Lmao the four pests is just too funny
Its like trying to solve the jew problem by importing muslims
well okay, but they're not socialists no matter how you look at it. it's a market economy
it's not black and white, it goes way deeper than that. I just want to clear up and stop the idea that norway is socialist
welfare means you need to increase border security or else people will invade for welfare
welfare traps people in mediocrity, getting people reliant on state gibs ensures that person will vote for bigger government for the rest of their life
>implying that jews or muslims are even a problem
Because of corrupted lawmakers are bought by corporations who want to make the most money as possible and the social democrat system might hinder their profits slightly?
>They're not socialist they're democrats who believe in socialist policies
,':^)
hey all I did was name 2 of the 4 pests
>corporatism
Thats the word i was looking for, thats my point exactly. Its disgusting.
or they are socialists who rely on the hardwork of capitalism to fund their socialist policies
and is now run by butthurt leftist
God I hate Reddit's UI
Why wouldn't someone vote for something which plainly benefits them? You're a leader, and you use your power to improve peoples' lives, and then they continue to vote for you because of the good things you've done. How truly awful.
SOME policies, which is why I said they're social democrats. what do you not understand?
>the social democrat system might hinder their profits
citation needed
IT JUST STRUCK ME
Steam and Epic will both be BTFO once game streaming comes along in a year or two
pretty sure he was disagreeing with the pic in the OP dawg
ITT: Yea Forums is economically illiterate
They're already doing scaled percentages based on sales, it's like 22% if you sell over X amount of copies
There's only one pest and its name is humanity.
Yeah, that's if people actually adopt it.
I think you need glasses
This. Nearly every politician is paid off and regularly make laws and regulations that kill small business and allow shit like Amazon and Disney to skirt by.
test
If people don't then Sony wins next gen
Both Microsoft and Sony already have game streaming services and no one cares about them.
Because they're shit. Wait until Google's comes out
>If I vote for the government to steal your resources while laughing from behind the barrel of a gun theres no problem with this.
that nigga needs to read Mises. No mention of prices or calculation.
Imagine being such an unintegrated thinker that your mind is incepable of basic logical abstraction?
Moneyhatting is free market now?
Why the fuck are people shilling this piece of shit software by saying shit like "b-b-b-b Epic Chink Store takes a smaller cut than Steam!!!". Why in the literal fuck should this matter to the consumer? As a consumer, your first issue should be price, then features. Despite recent Steam sales being hot garbage, it's still overall much cheaper than the EGS. Comparing features, it's fucking laughable how bare bones EGS is to Steam. This doesn't even take into consideration the fact that every shitty dev is now making their own launcher so people now have 10 different ones already, or the fact that EGS is literal spyware run by Chink overlords.
steaming will be terrible
>lag
>input lag
>no mods
>no ownership
>dont even have local access to the games files or exe
>always online
>games rely more and more on microtransactions as a subscription price point doesnt even begin to cover the payment demands of entitled publishers
>disingenuously misinterpreting what was said
Are you, by chance, a gaming journalist?
Jesus Christ how fucking naive can a person be? Are you 12?
Who says you don't have ownership? You can stream it anytime
Not theft if I get something out of it. Healthcare, financial security, effective and well-maintained infrastructure. It's a perfectly legitimate trade, the same kind that people have been making for all of human history.
oh and normalfags will eat it up
SO IT IS WRITTEN
>>no ownership
>>always online
>>dont even have local access to the game files or exe
Hate to break it to ya, user. But the regular consumer doesn't give the smallest of shits about either of these.
consumers are to blame for bad video games, because consumers enable all this shit
everything wrong in the world stems from the average person having no standards and being fucking stupid
every suggested alternate to free market capitalism sucks because you give those same retards power over the rest of us
Wew lads the shills are seriously now just targeting themselves.
Ive said this
No Im only half jewish
I don't believe in the free market. I believe in the well-regulated market to be fair.
I hate shit like this. People claiming to be "apolitical/not into politics" yet spew leftist propaganda. It is fucking everywhere.
reddit.com
Games are more expensive on Epic outside the US, what are you even smoking?
>will be kidnapped by armed police and escorted to a large cage if you dont want to be involved
>perfectly legitimate trade
The regular customer doesn't give a shit about streaming games either. PSNow is a complete failure despite it being on the best selling console of this generation.
They are seriously not going to bother now just because Google's name is on it. Do you know how much shit Google pushes and then quietly cancels?
It does not benefit consumers in any way to have a game removed from any platform. Why are we getting sucked into this war between publishers and steam/epic? It's not my goddamn problem how much developers make
>say you don't like EGS
>GAMURZ RISE UP XD
>Not theft if I get something out of it.
Shit I gotta go mug somebody and use this as a defense. Thank you, user. Truly brilliant ethical theory.
>that bottom pic
>19.2k points
Nice to see people are still buying that POS chart despite many of the comparisons being outright lies
yeah normalfags will eat it up and it will kill gaming
I already know this, but that doesnt mean anyone here should be complicite
Do people actually exist that would outright refuse to play a game they were highly anticipating because it's sold on a different website? I can maybe see it being a deal breaker if it were a game you were already on the fence about and unsure if you would buy it, but imagine patiently waiting x amount of years for a game you were really looking forward to then not buying it because it's on a different store. Are these people autistic or what?
>It actually means games will get cheaper and Devs will cope with the same amount or even less money.
They have a larger profit margin maybe and i mean MAYBE it means more resources for more frequent or better quality games (This is not likely) but chances are it will just mean better dividends for shareholders and in turn bigger bonus and salaries for officials
Oh yeah, I agree. I was just pointing out that those three are non issues.
Exclusivity is literally denying the free market
CONSOLES ARE FUCKING COMMUNIST SHIT
They're console gamers.
>Do people actually exist that would outright refuse to play a game
No just refuse to pay for
Why are EGS shills not banned on sight yet.
How much is tencent paying Hiro to ignore these blatant marketing threads?
China isn't investing in native Africans. They are building infrastructure for Chinese people. If Western countries didn't have their retarded ethics, China would wipe out all the niggers or enslave them.
Hello chinaman
A truly free market would allow Steam to contract out a private security force to obtain any devs not putting games on Steam and detain them in a privatized prison.
>open a coffee shop
>offer a unique drink that isn't offered at other coffee shops to attract more customers
>this is anti-free market
??????????????????????????
>allow
allowing things is statism, for if one must allow it then it is presumed things are not allowed by default
You must mean its not disallowed
mods are too busy with banning dmc and ror2 threads
god forbid we actually talk about video games
Why does Yea Forums pretend to hate socialism and love capitalism, but gets mad when another business competes and pirates everything anyways?
The Epic better cut is such a bullshit excuse when people bring it up when talking why games are exclusive to Epic
First off, none of the exclusive Epic games are exclusive out of their own volition, they were all paid for Epic to be their, otherwise I doubt they're release their games only on Epic.
Second, the only people who will benefit from this are devs who self publish their games, otherwise publishers are the only ones touching that extra bit of revenue. And chances are they won't even use it to make bigger better games, but to expand their own publishing business, hire more emplyees, waste more money on marketing, or open a branch on the other side of the planet.
how much did EPIC pay for this article to be written? Or is the author just naturally retarded?
China is gonna turn africas into chinese within afew generations they are fucking their women
the babys will be half chink and then they will pair up with a chink and soon africa will literally be chinese
>me choosing who may and may not purchase my good or service is antithetical to freedom
read a book, nigger. exclusivity is the definition of freedom/capitalism. Universality is communism.
>point and clickbait's articles make me miss P4R
>unironic corporate drone having the gall to call others shills
lol just lol
>slavery is a free market
fuck off, tyt shill
>none of the exclusive Epic games are exclusive out of their own volition
This. The developers' families were taken hostage until they agreed.
WAKE UP SHEEPLE
GAMERS RISE THE FUCK UP
Why is Yea Forums whoever you want it to be?
>purchase a trademark that stops all other stores from offering that drink even if they know how to make it
>this is apprently free market
Satire is normally funny or makes a point. This is just "person i don't like is dumb"
>there's only one type of capitalism
moneyhatting is disgusting and ruins actual competition. I also use steam and psn, don't accuse me of shit you don't know dick about
It's satire
Technically capitalism isn't anti piracy. People who support the free market don't believe in IP Laws
>More anti steam pro epic spam
That isn't even contrarian though, it's 1:1 whatever angle journos are pitching.
It honestly makes me wonder what it'll take for mods to start pruning these threads immediately
Something you claim to have used after you've been told how dumb and not so witty you sound?
>otherwise publishers are the only ones touching that extra bit of revenue.
A fact everyone forgets to mention and one Im constantly laughing at
>I support the free market so I support the store that isn't paying for exclusives
Well yeah. It's not exactly free when theres no choice.
>most ISPs in the US are shit or overpriced just for the bare minimum for good streaming
>thinks people are going to adopt this
Are you retarded?
A mod posted once saying they know about some of the people doing constant spam here but that they don't have the tools to outright keep them banned because they keep coming back.
Literally no one but wackos think this and is just being used as a strawman to shame anyone criticizing Epic Games.
It just trolls to set you schizoposters off
Doesn't surprise me they lack the tools to do so. It's not like the gw2 bot has ever been stopped either.
>Open up a coffee shop
>Your service is shit though, there is no milk, cream, sugar or anything else to put the coffee
>It's straight up just bitter black coffee, and not well made either
>There's not even a simple complaint boxm, because you don't believe people are allowed to voice their criticism and displeasure
>Because your service is shit, you buy out exclusive rights to all the most popular coffee brands that were previously delivered to all coffee shops
>Force people into using your shop or else wait until the contract is over to buy it where you know you'll get a quality with actual options
These threads always give me flashbacks to being a teen and thinking I know everything but actually being completely ignorant with 0 life experience.
Hopefully you guys only do that here for your future self sake.
Valve has gotten pretty complacent in the last few years with its platform but as much as I don't like that I'm not giving any money to a Chink run platform like Epic and my dick is diamond hard for Halo Reach coming to PC.
>he was a dumb teen
I feel like I was smarter as a teenager than I am as an adult and that makes me the big sad
Yeah, once Indie Dave drops Pixelshit Turdblast for $40, surely Rockstar would be forced to release GTA6 at the same price to compete.
>reach
the more important news is that halo 3 is coming to pc
does the mcc have halo 2 multiplayer?
I feel bad for them, Reddit is even more of a shithole now than it ever was. Every sub gets hijacked by insane politics.
It's like if Yea Forums had 2 /pol/s and they were both twice as obnoxious and twice as efficient. Except instead of Yea Forums being the audience, it's a bunch of ignorant redditors who don't understand trolling.
>Because your service is shit, you buy out exclusive rights to all the most popular coffee brands that were previously delivered to all coffee shops
well technically in a free market there are no IP laws so you can copy anyone elses copy.
This isn't how vidya works you dumb fucking asshole. You can't "steal" someone elses customers, because you're not offering the same product. Yes, both are vidya, but not all video games are the same. God you're fucking retarded. Nobody is going to lower the price. Nobody would cuck themselves out of money. Nobody can "steal" away their customers.
It makes me wonder how it's getting past recaptcha. Perhaps the Chinks just have a literal robot that clicks a mouse hovered over the "I'm not a robot" button and makes a post every however many hours (from the screenshots it looks like every ~2 hours?). Alternatively, perhaps the rumors about Google letting you buy recaptcha passes are true.
Buying a Yea Forums pass for your bot army seems inefficient, especially because if you actually did piss off the mods they'd just revoke the pass.
I’ll start using epic once it becomes a better platform, right now it’s trash compared to steam
>this is how capitalism works
>slowly creep up the price needed for developers to break even on launching a game
This is as retarded as $15/hr minimum wage instead of forcing corporations to pay minimum 40 hours with medical.
I like Reach's campaign more then 3 and its the first time Reach is getting an update while the previous games already did in the original MCC. I imagine all of them will. I just want to do four player online co-op in Reach on legendary mode.
And oh god more Forge World fun.
I just want games to be released on every platform fairly, now, maybe with the exception of GoG takeing a little while because they want 6-12 months of sales before they release the DRMfree version and thats fine.
>Piracy
>Anti-free market
do you fags really distrust chinese people
They can't even trust eachother.
piracy is a service issue
if you provide bad service, people will rather pirate
Absolutely
>last time i saw that sub posts barely got 500 upvotes
>now reaches 20k
Individual members of the Han? No. The CCP, the organization that through its state-owned corporation Tencent owns a minimum of 48.4% of Epic Games? You'd have to be genuinely mentally handicapped to think they're anything approximating "trustworthy".
Hello /u/fakecrash2011, mind staying back on reddit for me?
The US government should unironically ban anyone from competing in domestic markets that has any connections to Ten Cent or the Chinese government.
The entire site this article is on is a satire site. It's not meant to be taken seriously.
The website is called "point and clickbait" for crying out loud!
>buying games
I hope epic fucks all you buyfags in the anus and leaves a gaping hole. You deserve it
I think the market should be free and developers can release on whatever platform will accept it.
But also you go to jail if you unironically have taste so shit that you believe Breath of the Wild, Skyrim, The Last of Us or Apex Legends were good.
That's my platform. Free market should be free, but having low standards and poor sense of taste should be illegal.
This but I generally also don't trust the average Chinese anyways even ignoring the politburo being corrupt as shit and the state always having fingers in the pies of every Chinese business in the country
You have it all wrong. The people who have shit taste deserve to be fucked in the ass by Epic and the Chinese government
>Steam gets Halo MCC which most people will enjoy
>Epic gets Borderlands 3 which no one really cares about
>And Randy is still having meltdowns on twitter again
I'm going to join the 250 million registered Fortnite players in buying every Epic exclusive and there's nothing you sad Valve drones can do about it besides watch your Steam libraries fade into obscurity
We don't let the Free Market decide what should happen to murderers, because they'd pay for whatever keeps them free and able to kill again. The same should be true of people who tolerate tickrates of 20.
t. Randy
>implying I have a single launcher
Reminder that all the Yea Forumsermin are fine with exclusivity as long as it's exclusive to steam since Gaben trained his little sissies good.
I gotta say you can tell who's a shitposter and who's serious by if they bother capitalizing steam and valve. Shows how much respect they still hold for them, it's pathetic.
>I am going to suck corporate dick and there's nothing you can do about it you stupid Steamdrones
goddamn that's just sad
I haven't used Steam in over a year. Not a single game worth playing.
>Heh, corporate cucks!
>*Buys games exclusively on Steam*
That says more about the gaming industry as a whole rather than some shitty launcher you zargonite.
Is the only way to kill the AAA industry to kill IP laws rather than regulating them into oblivion?
Hmm, no, not really. I guess all of the companies with games actually worth playing realized they don't need Valve to sell their games anymore. Steam is a dying breed.
>literal who has an opinion
>better make a thread on Yea Forums that'll get 500 replies from rage baited retards
The epic store has only been in action since The Game Awards last year which was in December so unless companies are selling games through through some mysterious hoopla like their own site or GOG then the gaming industry collapsed according to you since nothing is being sold on PC.
You're not very bright, I was given a memo a few days ago about how to actually advertise and it entails of shitting on all services to make one seem appealing. You're a complete moron man. This is why you're gonna be outta job soon.
This is your brain on Steam
it's just been blatant console advertisements and screenshots/reposts from other social media for years, user.
I buy games on Steam because there is no better alternative besides maybe GoG but they don't have the games I like
>lies
Name one, chink. Nobody cares if you don't like trading cards nigger.
I haven't used steam in years because of their shit security and the amount of garbage that infests the store but go on zargonite. I'm getting paid everytime I identify a fellow shill and reply to it so thanks!
Whats OOTL?
This is your brain on Steam
Another 5 dollars for me. The funny thing is that the only two launchers I use are Epic and Origin.
>i support the free market
no i don't?
I think we should all use the Tencent video game store put your credit card in yeah this is great let's all do it come on everybody
>Restricting markets for rent seeking structures is now free market
Yea Forums utterly BTFO
>This is your brain on Steam
>discounts
>games of all gen
hi
>discounts
>paying for games
On top of a huge cash payout. Phoenix Point for example got enough cash upfront that the lead dev said every single backer could demand a refund and they'd still be making a profit.
I support the free market and free decisions.
Just as I support everyones decision to not buy anything out of the epic game store, just like I wont buy anything from there, just like I dont use Uplay or Origin.
You can do what you want, even pirate, it wont effect my decision.
>getting so utterly BTFO you have to make shit up to discredit your opponents
Epic-Tencent literally digging their own graves with every minute that passes is more entertaining than all of Epic "exclusives" will ever be.
I support the free market too which is why I think piracy should be completely legal and people should be able to profit from distributing IP they don't have the rights to. According to the free market, digital distribution should be worth $0 since it has 0 scarcity and infinite supply
there's a difference?
no not john
juan
They can decide to release all the games they want on Epic Games Store and I will decide to not buy them.
Unless its a series that I'm willing to go to extraordinary lengths to get access to, anyways, in which case I'll make a burner account and use a precharged credit card.
If Satifactory was on Steam right now I would own it. It's not though, so I probably never will. Possibly the same with that Mars(?) roguelike(?) FPS thing game, one trailer looked kinda neat.
I now want it to stay an EGS exclusive forever just so this massive fucking faggot hopefully kills himself.
It's satire
If any games are less than standard price, they're loss leading. Losing money on a product to get people into their store to buy other things. The purpose of the cut is to entice publishers with a larger piece of the pie so that game prices can stay the same and to court indie devs. When people approach them to find out more, they just offer them a lump sum to make sure they sign a contract. There is no way this is profitable, it's just intended to grow their library and audience.
They are spending money to secure a larger share of the market. It's a gambit built getting as many users as possible so that they purchase from Epic by default, even at the same price. It's oligarchic, not having anything in common with a free market. They are taking advantage of their huge amount of funding to buy up as much real estate and marketing as possible and suffocate their competition, since they have enough of a financial backing that they don't need to turn a profit for several years.
The offerings and features are objectively worse in every way. That's how capitalism works? Fuck off. The company mainly responsible isn't even part of the games market, it's a massive "corporation" on a different fucking continent which is low key a wing of the Chinese government. Them bribing every journalist in the West and buying the rights to the entire market is "free market competition?" Seriously, fuck off.
Why haven't you invested in Tencent already? Don't you guys want to be rich in 10 yrs?
>imagine not holding shares in tencent
>implying AI isn't already watching our society develop as a nature preserve.
faggot.
Good thread guys, but can anyone answer my question?
Why do cats rape lolis?
No, but I can imagine Chinese people will consider companies like Tencent and the people that supported them and helped them to oppress and exploit and steal from Chinese citizens, imprison 3 million innocent people in concentration camps, harvest ethnic and religious people's organs and pollute their kids' baby milk with dioxine as little more than collaborators. Looking forward to seeing Epic getting blacklisted in China one day.
completely reasonable
>The entire site this article is on is a satire site. It's not meant to be taken seriously.
Tell that to the owner of the site.
I live in Canada and Chinese people still get butthurt when you bash Mao Zedong or President Xi. Chinks are helpless. Chinks probably accept their corporate oligarchs like Ten Cent.
Cats rape lolis because lolis are smol and cute
There’s nothing wrong with being anti-religion
>point&clickbait
That site more of a soapbox for the owner's garbage opinions than anything else, and him hiding behind "muh satire" is cowardly as fuck.
>you shouldn't only buy games from steam
>ok i'll buy from gog or buy it from the offici-
>NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO SUPPORT EPIC AND ONLY EPIC
sad
no the point of the site is to rile up retards. Look how good it did
>427 posts
>177 posters
>say something retard
>gets called retarded
>"heh gottem!"
This mentality needs to die.
Insider here
Borderlands 3 will be garbage
You heard it here first, journalists!
They changed some shit with their algorithm during the 2016 election that made posts show way more upboats than usual. Front page was 2-3k then after the update they went up to 15-20k. It's funny how one community made them change the site so much.