Steam is so bad right?

Minecraft was like 15 MB at launch. It's not feasible to host games that are multiple GB.

Pretty accurate.

I'd add a fat guy with cardboard on switch and some skniiny nerd dev for itchi tho.

>When nobody answers your question.

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They used to do that and it was called shareware since they encouraged people to share the game around since relying on a site for marketing and distribution was horrible, and the games were always filled with annoying and broken activation systems and sites would die all the time, zoomers who think launchers are bad don't know how much worse it used to be.

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"Grassroots" Indies can just use sites like itch.io which lets you keep 100% of revenue and doesn't require a launcher, but limiting your audience isn't very smart no matter the cut.

Nice 8th time I see this.

fuck off, shill

Ah, yes. I do love going to 100 different websites to download patches.

>Totally not posting it on every thread involving epic and steam fight.

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It's actually really expensive to do that. If you're not moving big numbers, you're gonna be losing money.

Sales Cut: 30%-20% depending on how shit your game sold
Marketplace Cut: 5% on every inter-user sale
Jewing the internet until they deify your business practices: Priceless
EA might want to patent microtransactions but Valve perfected it, there are retards that pay thousands for a bunch of code that looks like a golden hook, and so long as people are trading within themselves Valve rakes in cash with out lifting a finger.

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I'll just leave this here.

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Oh so u are that one person who post those images in every post.

I understand how distribution works, my problem is with how Valve will never make a game again because it's not profitable.

Reminder that epic shrinks have no response to the fact that consoles cuts is the same as steam at 30%. They don’t give a shit about muh devs cuts, they just want replace steam with their shitty store.

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I agree.

Epic still wins in the end. Why?

Bought a game made in UE3 or UE4 like

>Vampire Bloodlines 2
>Tropico 6
>Shenmue III
>Psychonauts 2
>Tekken 7
>Soul Calibur 6
>Octopath Traveler
>Kingdom Hearts 3
>Ace Combat 7

?

Congratulations, you just gave Epic money.

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THE MERE FACT THAT STEAM HAS SHOVELWARE TRIGGERS ME BEYOND BELIEF! LOOK AT THIS SHOVELWARE THAT I HAD TO DIG UP AND LOOK AT HOW SHITTY IT IS! I AM LITERALLY INCAPABLE OF ACTING LIKE AN ADULT AND PRESSING THE IGNORE BUTTON ON THINGS THAT I DON'T LIKE! THIS IS PROOF THAT VALVE SHOULD MAKE ME SUPREME CURATOR SO THAT I CAN REMOVE ALL OF THE TERRIBLE, HORRIBLE, NO GOOD, VERY BAD SHOVELWARE!

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Based

he thinks I support consoles.

No one cares about Epic getting a cut from people using their engine, pencil dick.
People are pissed because Epic is trying to brute force a monopoly on PC.

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It's the battle of the century, folks!
On the left, Epic Games team with their members: Unreal Tournament, Fortnite BR, and Borderlands 3!
And on the right, Team Steam made up of DOTA 2 Autochess, Team Fortress 2, and Halo MCC!
Who's gonna go home with the championship belt??? Place your bets!
But wait...WHAT's THIS? A new challenger approaches?
It's...Windows 10 Store, coming at you with Gears of War, Minecraft Windows 10 Edition, and Crackdown 3!
I've never seen anything like it in my entire career in sports entertainment! This is it! This is a paradigm shift.

>is trying to brute force a monopoly on PC.

Valve?

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monopoly
/məˈnɒp(ə)li/
noun
1.
the exclusive possession or control of the supply of or trade in a commodity or service

Surprised that people aren't rallying behind Sweeney because he is a crypto Nazi or something.

You wanna know why Half Life is exclusive to Steam? It's the same reason why Fortnite is exclusive to EGS.

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Ill take gog and switch

I'll take Steam and Switch.

I didn't buy any of those games so what now?

I have half life on my ps2 and hl2 on my xbox tho?

valve.

Why would I care?

FUCK CHINKS
FUCK STEAM'S USER REVIEW CENSORSHIP
FUCK TENCENT
FUCK EPIC
FUCK DLC
FUCK JEW MARKETERS
GoG seems alright though. Is there a reason to hate GoG?

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Exclusive possesion.
Which game platform have more exclusives?

How will bribing devs make Steam improve?
If anything, Steam will just start bribing devs themselves.
This isn't the kind of competition that we benefit from because Epic isn't competing by, say, adding more features to their launcher, it's by bribing devs.

People were super pissed that you needed to install steam and have an internet connection to be able to play HL2. These days people don't give a single flying fuck and this Epic game store outrage will pass too.

It will, and then Epic will become another irrelevant launcher like Origin and Uplay.

and steam has a much bigger reach than epic
epic shills truly have no arguments

It's expensive to have servers to host games actually. And technically complicated to have them update, all that. Steam does it all for them.

The choice to make such games exclusives was made by the devs, not by Valve.
Hell, a ton of third parties on Steam are also on Uplay, Origin and Gog.
Not Epic, though, they are bribing so games don't release on anything but their launcher, because they can't compete fairly.

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Based pirate.
I guess the second golden era of piracy is upon us.

So if we say for a minute that all exclusives on the Epic Store were now no longer exclusives, and that they both gave devs the same % split, what is there that the Epic Store offers that Steam does not?

Going by your logic, Epic is also trying to brute force a monopoly by making Fortnite on PC only available on Epic Launcher/Store.

>what is there that the Epic Store offers that Steam does not?
They give a shitload of money to the devs to sign a year-long exclusivity contract.

That's it.
Also, some publishers prefer Epic because there is no user reviews.
If you are a fucking jew or release a bad game on Steam, you'll get bad user reviews and people won't buy your game.
That's why Steam now censors user reviews, publishers were threatening to leave.

This.

>FUCK STEAM'S USER REVIEW CENSORSHIP
Nah just fuck steam in general. Piratebros don't need any of this shit
And nobody should hate GoG, least of all piratebros. They make playing vidya more convenient for everyone

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Can anyone who is pro-Epic Store give me an answer on this?

epic is literally more expensive in my country

>>FUCK STEAM'S USER REVIEW CENSORSHIP

Steam users deserved to be censored.

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I jizz in my pants every time I pirate a game and I see a GOG tag next to it, their installers are the best.

>reading reviews or posting them
you have no one to blame but yourself for being that retarded

>implying the right is Yea Forums
are you actually retarded? also, both are embarrassing

imagine being a steamcuck

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>I'm literally gog
What do I have to do to become a SwitChad?

How else do we let developers know we don't like the decisions they make? Shit like twitter they'll ignore but if you affect their profits well they will have to listen to you

trello.com/b/GXLc34hk/epic-games-store-roadmap
Imagine having 3/4ths of your launcher under development.

They own their respective consoles though. Owning the hardware is a slight difference. Valve didn't create PC. There are no alternative launchers on console, there are on PC.

And it only took a few really good sales until they had trained the monkeys to defend and love them.

Reading comprehension, you spastic

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>>Vampire Bloodlines 2
no
>Tropico 6
no
>Shenmue III
no
>Psychonauts 2
doubt it
>Tekken 7
no
>Soul Calibur 6
no
>>Octopath Traveler
no
>>Kingdom Hearts 3
no
>>Ace Combat 7
no

wow that was hard
also, just because epic makes money of people using UE doesn't mean their store won't get shut down when people don't use it

>GoG seems alright though. Is there a reason to hate GoG?
they sell cracked games that are super old & don't benefit the actual devs of the game
other than that, not really

people do use it. Metro got 3x the sales it ever had on steam

>steam-pro consumer
>epic-pro publisher

>chinese "spamming" reviews
unlike pretty much every other review site, steam requires you to own the game to review it. As such they can't spam it using alts.
The review you posted is valid criticism, why the fuck would you want to support a game that does that shit?

>Metro got 3x the sales it ever had on steam

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>telling blatant lies

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>we give you great deals
>wow I like steam now

>this someone confuses epic shills

they give money to devs for no reason
they prevent users from giving reviews
they offer up "guaranteed sales" (aka if game doesn't hit X sales, epic will pay for the additional sales)

You're right, it was 2.5. My bad

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>Could be throwing all this money for exclusives at making EGS objectively better than Steam

you expected epic games to release a statement saying "metro only sold a tenth of what it sold on steam"
of course not you retard
they know nobody can check so they just lie to bolster their stock price

>steam-pro consumer
They didn't even have refunds until the EU forced them

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wtf
i hate steam refunds now

>mediocre game series suddenly gets an entry that causes a lot of controversy
>surprised when the game that got more coverage got more sales
Doesn't help that it was the first exclusive before Epic's bullshit started coming to light.

time changes
right now steam is a lot more costumer firiendly t epic do not allow even reviews

> Deep Silver said 2.5x compared to Last Light
Fine, I'll bite
2.5x of what? Lifetime sales of Last Light on Steam? Then it's a pretty good number, congratulations to the devs
Or sales of Last Light on Steam during the same time period (launch month)? Then it's bad because Last Light sold only 20.000 copies on Steam, thus Exodus would be at 50.000 copies right now (games released in the same month have more than 100.000 concurrent players only on Steam)
Or maybe they meant Last Light Redux sales? If lifetime then it's a worse result than standard Last Light, if launch aligned it's a better result
Also, are Steam preorders included? If they are then you can remove at least 12.000 sales from the EGS since that's the max amount of concurrent players it has on Steam. Let's pretend this is also exacty how much it sold on Steam, then if we are using the Last Light launch aligned numbers Exodus sold 50.000 - 12.000 copies on EGS, even worse than before
But wait, are console sales counted in this too? They never said they were. In that case Exodus number is really great, the best number possible for the series
But how many of those total numbers are actual PC copies?

2.5x is not a real number, it's a multiplication. 2 millions multiplied by 2.5 is 5 millions, 200 multiplied by 2.5 is 500. The only real numbers will be posted during the next investor meeting. Until then it's only meaningless shitposting

USE MY LAUNCHER
REEEEEEE

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>So this is how PC gaming dies
>With thunderous shilling for its murderer

they have always had refunds, the system simply wasn't as clean cut as the current system
you could pretty much always contact steam support & if you had a valid reason they'd refund it

THREADLY REMINDER THAT EVEN FUCKING EA DIDN'T RESORT TO BRIBING FOR EXCLUSIVITY

if you assume it to be true, it's not lifetime, since it mentions "in a similar time period"

good

>you could pretty much always contact steam support & if you had a valid reason they'd refund it
That was EUfags again (maybe aussies too)
Basically you'd contact them and cite your relevant consumer law, they couldn't deny you

Discord is letting people do that. Not even their store, you can just go to a dev's discord, click button and it downloads.

Wait, isnt a good chunk of discord owned by Tencent?

Here you go, Chang. There's this and similar images in every fucking one of these threads, you could've just waited or looked em up. Or does your slave master not let you use google?

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no it was before it was a law
>The general feeling among users at the time was that Valve generally issued one refund per account if you had a good reason to get one.

if the game was clearly not as advertised or it straight up didn't work on your machine without it being mentioned on the store page or whatever, you'd get a refund

>Metro got 3x the sales it ever had on steam

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It's expensive to set up, difficult to set up, and the risk is on you. Many indies used to do it but eventually had to shut down because CC chargeback costs were eating all the profit.

No, the most recent Metro game "sold more" than the third most recent one. Now, why do you think they didn't say it sold more than the second most recent game, when we can see that it sold more than the one before it?

>Or does your slave master not let you use google?
nigger you could have made a chink joke because chinks can't use google

Notice how it compares the sales to Last Light, and not Redux?

And only launch period which was ass

I am not a chink my friend. I don't use epic.

Come on I started a thread to make people think about which platform has more negatives not to inform myself. In my opinion Epic has more negatives so I use Steam.

based

top fucking kek

Based.

Every time I go on Yea Forums there's a thread about people shilling for Epic store, why the fuck is asking neutral question considered a shilling you absolute retard

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How many times do we have to do this dance I can't wait till epic goes bankrupt

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>Is there a reason to hate GoG?
Yes actually. GoG is scum.
youtube.com/watch?v=NHHa6LqH8Ok
youtube.com/watch?v=9KrHJ4fpKkc

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But anti-Steam and anti-Epic people told me that hosting your servers costs almost nothing. Are you telling me they're lying?

So someone releases a shit game and thats why gog is scum?

As long as those useless chinks keep spamming Yea Forums with their threads there will be no escape

EGL has no offline mode, and if too many people are signed in at once it won't let you sign in at all, meaning you can't play games you bought on there during peak times

>REEE STUPID STEAMTOID

gog didn't make that game
the dogshit version is what PC always had

>Stonetoss is a Nazi
>Editing an edit instead of the original
Holy shit the left really can't meme and not only that they really are the worst corporate shills

Why is Origin so based?

cope

Stonecuck comics can be safely ignored altogether

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they do the same things but im already using one.
also steam allows me to buy cheap keys from resellers

>Stadia
>rich guy who can afford the internet speed to play without latency and probably doesn't even play games beyond stuff like FIFA
perfect

GoG allowed this pile of shit version for 8 bucks a pop in their store when they could have been selling the real version.

They also mislead consumers by calling it a "16-bit classic" when the DOS version of Aladdin is 32 bit and runs on 32 bit protected mode. They also knew that when people think of that game they think of the Sega Genesis version not the crappy DOS port nobody played.

>no
>regional
>pricing
What's their even to debate about this shot store

why would I want to need any of these except the store and library?

I dunno man. His non /pol/lack comics are pretty good

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nobody in Poland owned a console until around PS1 days

Unlike you most people like having forums, chat support and I most definitely like the mod support.

this guy is right, a review should be taken down if its not about the game itself but about something else entirely

A lot of people had a bootleg NES

Kek

>t. technologically illiterate retard

Kek what would you have said if I left mods out just admit you can't shill your shitstore

Hi china man

But why? Steam takes 0% cut on steam keys anyway. So you can sell keys anywhere you want. You can print fucking keys on paper and sell them in grocery store or whatever. Ask any salesman, you will never get better deal that 0% cut.

>what would you have said if I only admitted to needing forum and live chat like a boomer to make the base game work
Probably still a technologically iliterate retard.

Remember to save this and post it every time someone calls Steam a "monopoly."

Wtf I love epic now

Devs are only going to take bribes if the bribe was better for them than not being exclusive. Devs would benefit.

>he's such a fucking drone that he can't see past the duality of sucking either of steam's or epic's cocks
Typical of a technical troglodyte to be honest.

Why is Switch like that in the pic? It has horrible online, prices, deals etc.

John Cena did an ad with Nintendo for some reason

>Poland
Just because GOG is Polish it doesn't mean it's catering to an irrelevant market like Poland.
And as pointed out there's even a bigger chance most Poles played the NES version of Aladdin than the DOS one.