So we all know that people are pissed that Epic Games Store is getting timed exclusivity rights to games...

>Everybody i dont like is a shill
Lmao back to /Reddit/ and all the Masterrace subreddits you love so much.

This. Why have 2 different DRM based launchers killing your PC?

No but you speak like a shill.
>But the consumer isn’t losing?
>Let me run down a list of Epic Game Store’s features while sounding like a retarded white thot?

what do you want them to do?

>So we all know that people are pissed that Epic Games Store is getting timed exclusivity rights to games
Not true
>why the fuck isn't Valve doing anything about it?
There's nothing to do, there's nothing happening
>They are literally losing money since people can't get the game they want on the platform they want.
You seem to talk about 'people' when you are talking about a small group

They are a shill. Look at the structure of their words. They slip in marketing stealthily, but not good enough.

PC gaming has waited years hoping for ports before. The world isn't gonna end for them if they just need to wait out a year for Epic's exclusive deals to run off
So now it's a wait to see just how long Epic will bleed millions on each deal

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can you pls give me other variations of the cropped pink anime, i have seen other ones

They are overhauling steam soon or whenever that comes out. Also valve is working on real games now like VR and some other interesting stuff. Just wait for E3 and they are going to show more of the microsoft deal

天安門事件
中俄邊界
人權
Okay bye shill

test

Having your friends list fragmented over many launchers annoys the hell out of me. Plus is there any reason to use Uplay, Origins, Battlenet and
Epic game store out side of launching a game.

>For the same or lower price?
Outright lie. Valve still has the lowest prices. Also,
>GladiumTonitrua
Someone post the image.

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Why do we need 5-10 Steam vs Epic threads everyday? It is getting tiresome.

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Same. If the game is not on Steam I probably won't care.

That said, I wonder why Steam hasn't branched out to tv-series and movies too. Would be comfy to have everything in one launcher.

I agree. If that game is very interested and not on Steam, I would pirate it anyway.

>Why isn't Valve fighting back against Epic?
Because the tactic Epic is using isn't sustainable.
They will either have to stop doing so, or they will ruin themselves.
It's not like they have managed to get any permanent exclusives.
Honestly, the most professional way they could be handling this: not caring about it and keeping the place clean.
Meanwhile, Tim Sweenie is throwing constant temper tantrums on Twitter about how evil Steam is and how they are totally not chink spyware.

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Steam: Hey guys check our our new releases!

>Hentai puzzle sim
>f2p gradient shading deviantart furry dating sim
>unfinished game design coursework game
>mobile shovel shit
>etc etc

Epic Store: Hey guys check out our new releases!

>AAA game
>well-established dev
>AAA game
>well-established dev
>Finished non-AAA game
Meanwhile on Yea Forums:

>Steam best
>Epic bad
>PS4 no games
>EXCLUSIVES
>Nintendo bad

You fucking idiots will fight over anything.. and defend anything. Epic is well respected despite the people here who are screeching and exclusives are a standard business practice that PEOPLE HAVE ACTIVELY SUPPORTED IN THE CONSOLE INDUSTRY FOR WELL OVER A DECADE.

So this is exactly what you fucks wanted and it's fucking hilarious.

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The only way they can reasonably fight back is telling developers who take deals like this that they can't use steam afterwards.
Obviously they won't do that though.

This. They need to get rid of community hub bullshit that made steam impossible to intuitively navigate. There's always a page of some irrelevant bullshit before you can click "store page".
Store need publisher filter. I'm tired of front page constantly littered with monthly Ubisoft turd.
Curators may go fuck themselves.
Auto-updates preferences were much more convenient years ago.
Built-in web browser has been piece of shit since the beginning and never got any improvements.
There needs to be an option to bypass region lock and buy games at original prices to ba able to gift them to my non-third worlder friends. Or they can just get gid of region lock entirely because they are making billions anyway, fucking kikes.

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Exclusives are cancer, kill yourself.

>filenames
can the mods do something about these bots?
its getting fucking retarded

because nobody is using the epic store because it is shit and despite all their marketing and causing butthurt to stay on the news it will just bleed money and be forgotten in 2 months

>retarded kid trying to act tough and calling you names
>hurr durr why isnt strongguy doing anything about it?

Steam has gotten in just two months games like DMC5 and Sekiro.
What has Epic gotten, Metro: we fell for the open world meme edition?

I would pirate even if it was steam

>westcuck AAA
>anything of worth

>install yet another inferior launcher without region-adjusted prices and daily sales
No. I'd rather just pirate because it's more convenient.

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Here’s why you should care about 2 launchers, you idiot.
Do you like your PC? I bet you do.
What if I told you that having two or more launchers has cut your PC’s life expectancy into an extremely small portion? All that DRM constantly running in the background...
Give it 1.5 years at least, 2 years at most. The malfunctions will be sudden.

Valve's userbase and fanbase are fighting hard for Valve but Valve isn't fighting hard for them.

What can they realistically do? The most they can do is to slash a enormous discount on these Epic games but it will also prompt developers to dump Steam altogether.

Steam has Halo, Bethesda games, weeb games (since most Japs use Steam) and Cyberpunk 2077. Games that are made with the UE is already Epic bound and they've already lost that battle.

based seething mutt poster

>I dont even go to gog

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>started a new job in a video game company
>start working with a nice girl
>get on with her quite well
>Don't reveal my power level but she laughs at slightly console and homophobic jokes I crack
>one day at lunch we are eating together
>jokingly say "if you fancy we can do this out of work so we can at least have a drink with lunch"
>she says yeah sure
>act like I'm not excited and just say alright how about Friday at 4pm
>she says yeah and we go back to work
>I decide to book a table at the most fancy restaurant in town
>Friday comes around, I get ready and make sure I'm looking good and smell good
>meet this bird and tell her I booked a table at this fancy restaurant
>"oh user you shouldn't have, I didn't think we would be going somewhere that nice"
>play it off like it's not a big deal even though it's gonna cost me half my wage
>get to the restaurant, order a bottle of wine straight away
>drinking expensive wine and looking at the menu
>decide to order a steak and this girl says she wants the spicy chicken
>half a bottle of wine later the food arrives
>my steak is good, nice and bloody
>notice this bird is not eating much of her chicken, just pushing it around
>I ask if everything is alright with her meal
>"it's cooked nicely user, it's just to spicy for me I don't really like it"
>I stop eating
>slowly put my knife and fork down
>look her straight in the eye
>she has just revealed herself and her true agenda
>"sloppy job tencent" I say to her
>"what's a tencen user?"
>laugh at her feeble attempt to act innocent
>"SLOPPY JOB TENCENT"
>scream it in her face across from the table
>she starts to cry and says she has to leave
>im sat there laughing, knowing she had been briefed and planted by Epic Games to get me to waste money on a fancy restaurant and a dinner she "didn't like" and force me to install Epic Games Launcher
>she storms out the restaurant
>I eat both plates of food so the Chinks don't win

Gaben needs a way to punish devs who snub steam users.

its a margin they are willing to give so far
its a business, its managed through profits and there's surely a whole team of people that know more than us taking the helm on this "epic store thing"
it will pass, steam will survive this, even if it has to adapt and cut less from devs

>he thinks my post is a bot because i don't rename shit

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AAA games = MTX and it's not shy about shoving it down your throat.

Are you going to try to counter any of my actual points or just meme me a couple games you like and strawman it with one game you don't?

Epic still wins in the end. Why?

Bought a game made in UE4 like

>Vampire Bloodlines 2
>Tropico 6
>Shenmue III
>Psychonauts 2
>Tekken 7
>Soul Calibur 6
>Octopath Traveler
>Kingdom Hearts 3
>Ace Combat 7

?

Congratulations, you just gave Epic money.

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>TFW Steam is gonna go bankrupt leaving all it's peasants with less games (0) than the Epic aristocacy.

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Make two sections with different branding (different colorscheme etc). "Steam" and "Steam Freedom" (or some other fancy name)

On Steam Freedom anybody can publish anything. Fancy algorithms, word clouds, rankings, popularity ratings to put different games into spotlight. Regular Steam is for high budget games.

Also complete new client from the ground up. Flat shapes colors, mobile like, bleeding edge stuff. New design, but keep the iconic valve logo, maybe different color though to make things fresh.

they dont need to do anything
epic is killing itself

>Option 1
Game that is coming to Steam 1 year later gets a flat 90% discount, games that are coming out 6 months later gets a 50% discount. Only applies to games that are advertised on Steam before switching to the Epic store.

>Option 2
Update TOC and TOS to ensure that developers wanting to switch make their decisions early and any games already on Steam for quite some time are not allowed to be pulled out abruptly.

Or you could tell me which ones are those "quality" games you are talking about.
And yes, DMC5 and Sekiro are much bigger than Metro, which was forgotten days after it came out.

>why the fuck isn't Valve doing anything about it?

Because they don't have to right now. For anyone who remembers the shitstorm around Starforce DRM: Customers will attack publishers for you. If tim sweeney was some likable guy, I'd be worried. But he sounds like a condescending chink puppet, so that'll make sure the anger sticks around

The new trend now is to not announce which platforms the game is coming out until the devs are hidden in their safe space hugbox.

Everyone attending E3 should boo Epic or anything related to Epic to oblivion.

I'm not sure what they can do, exactly. They can literally pay for exclusivity like Epic does, but if they do that they would (rightfully) be hated as well and they'd lose the support of the crowd. The major thing they can do is start releasing their own games again, but that's something which will take years to show any results unless they already have something in the pipe anyway.

They could also lower their cut, but they cannot match Epic for several reasons, mostly because Steam does not saddle consumers with hidden ""processing fees"" and most importantly because Steam allows devs to generate Steam keys and to sell them independently, without any cut going to Valve at all. That means that on average they're getting less than 30% per game activation on Steam and it also means they are incurring infrastructure costs for game copies they received no money on.

MCC isn't exclusive, it's coming out on MS' own store as well.

>2 steams
this wouldn't work for 2 reasons

1. Valve is slow and it would take forever up create and update
2. Indie devs would blow a gasket because it would be segregating games, essentially saying their games are beneath AAA games or popular indie games

hey shill

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Why, so you can say whatever i say isn't a quality game? That's why you used the quotation marks, and you're not fooling anyone.

Metro is a popular series, like it or not.
Borderlands is a popular series, like it or not.
This is only going to continue, and your "these aren't good games" defense will only hold up for so long until not even you believe it.

Steam is heading for and will become exactly what Valve has let it become - a cesspool of shovelshit, furry porn and unfinished projects interspersed with the occasional good game, and by good i mean with a proper development team with some fucking concept of completion. There's plenty of good indie games and even games made by single people, but you can't and won't try to argue that it's not full of badly made furry porn and cancer and that it's only gotten worse over time.

Your weak attempts to trash something that is trying to shake up an industry in serious need for some quality control or at least a fucking noose for a few of these developers are as hollow as they are baseless.

Now i ask you again - are you going to actually try to counter anything i said with something of substance or continue with your ""quality"" argument?

Of course you are.. though i use the word argument very loosely, you have none. You have nothing of value to say. You never have.

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You just cannot have chinese rpgmaker asset flip #453 ero-vg edition next to Sekiro.

Either steam does proper quality control, or creates a containment section.

Ok china shill. Go back to your governments censored murder square.

You absolutely can, that's the reality we live in today.
If shovelware is going to stop you from buying sekiro then you didn't really want sekiro after all

No, to see which games are those.
You mentioned two Triple As from respected devs, but the only thing they released was Metro Exodus, and that game was forgotten in no time for a reason.

The fact that Epic has tried this hard and only has two exclusivites, neither of which is permanent, is honestly hilarious.

Meanwhile, when will we see Sekiro or DMC5 on Epic's launcher?
Never.

>, but why the fuck isn't Valve doing anything about it?
Because sitting on a defacto monopoly is what makes you do.

>Indie devs would blow a gasket because it would be segregating games, essentially saying their games are beneath AAA games or popular indie games
They'll do this anyway. Fuck the devs/pubs. Give an inch, take a mile.

>Metro is shit tho lol
>REEEEEE STEAM IS FULL OF TRASH YOU CAN'T DO ANYTHING FUCK YOU FUCK EVERYTHING CHINA NUMBAH ONE
What did Ching Chong Ping Pong mean by this?

Its definitely a big issue. The existence of tons of shovelware makes the platform less appealing for many users.

But I thought Epic shills loved indie games.
That's what all indie games are, shovelware.

what are you talking about? valve have one most friendly support i ever get if some dev do some fuck up they will refund you even if you played more than 2 hours the reason why people love steam is that they are pro consumer epic on the other hand is pro publisher

>Why, so you can say whatever i say isn't a quality game?
The same shit you pulled here?
You’re either an awful shill or a REALLY mad kid that thinks he’s right. I’m thinking kid.
Don’t forget RE2.

notice how it's never consumers rallying behind epic, yet shitposts try to rewrite the narrative

you can filter these games on steam if you are not interested in them this is so fucking stupid argument

Well tough titties because every platform has shovelware, the only store I've seen that doesn't is blizzard's store and they've only got like 10 games

Other way round as well. The environment to sell stuff in very relevant. Why do you think Yea Forums got separate domains for worksafe and non worksafe boards recently?

The steam platform is already less attractive as it was years ago. As it looks, only Japanese developers leverage the still high popularity of steam with western audiences. In a few years this trend will be over as well and then steam is finally dead.

>tfw filtering early access and survival removed 90% of the garbage

I don't have a problem with their engine, or with them making money off of their engine. I have a problem with their business practices regarding their game store and as such I will not buy from their store.

>complaining about it
You can not get that stick out of your butt user.

With how similar in nature consoles are to PC now (barring hardware configs, but that's a different discussion and mostly abstracted away by engines) I doubt nip devs would consider pulling out free profit if they already have their market on PC.

They made the milestone thing in November before epic store even existed. I think they did to get Bethesda back.

?

Doesn't affect me as a pirate

They are most likely reforming something I would think

Check out the Epic Games Store Trello bros.
trello.com/b/GXLc34hk/epic-games-store-roadmap
Some red flags?
1) Shopping cart is > 6 months out
2) No mod support for ~6 months.
3) and of course 2 female devs.

> why the fuck isn't Valve doing anything about it?
Last time they rushed to respond to competition the TF2 team put out Meet Your Match.
> They are literally losing money
Between the 12% cut, giving away games for free and over $2.5 million per exclusivity deal, they're not the only ones losing money.

>well established dev
Good point. Epic isn't in to game discovery like steam. They are only taking deals for established franchises that have big fan bases.

Hidden gems and niche games are absolutely worth lack of quality control.
We need some better tagging and filters system to more easily hide or discover certain stuff. User tags are fucking mess, it's not reliable. Something like mandatory #RPG-maker or #porn official tags would help.
Also we need proper tagging for franchises because discovering Touhou or Warhammer games right now is huge pain in the ass.

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>TRIPPUL AYYYHH
>good

lmao

steam suck after blue update

this

Lol why, exactly? The timed exclusives aren't going to last forever, the fortnite money will dry eventually. Why does Valve have to rebrand when they're already so well established? The only correct thing to do in this situation is wait.

The store needs a proper update. A face lift if you will.

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This

> bought

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>people unironically think epic can compare when steam has unmatchable seasonal sales

Hilarious

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Here we go again tranny fucker

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It really doesn't imo but we already know that a steam UI actually is getting a visual update, the screenshots leaked a while ago.

This is the type of user who defends Epic

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>game journos and paid shills want Valve to start paying them to fight back
It all makes sense now.

Every time you see a pro-Epic post remember this face

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>Hentai puzzle sim
Huniepop is fucking masterpiece.

>f2p gradient shading deviantart furry dating sim
Based steam creating self-promotion platform for independent furry artists so that they could survive in oversaturated market of furry porn. Corporate cucks btfo.

>unfinished game design coursework game
I personally don't care about Receiver and Superhot but their ratings speak for themselves.

>mobile shovel shit
GameDev Tycoon is fucking masterpiece.

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No. Steam (and every other shop) cannot do "proper quality control" on products which are enjoyed wholly subjectively. Nobody is better qualified than me to decide what I like, some random employee at a game shop is not qualified to tell me which game is good enough for me to enjoy and which one isn't and as such I do not want them to make these decisions at all. This is all in an ideal world as well, in practice it is very easily possible for people put in these positions to abuse them as well and to favor games which push their agendas, for instance.

Allowing everything on the store is the right way of things, it's the customers who should decide what they want and do not want to spend money on, especially now that no questions asked refunds are a Steam feature. What the shop should provide however are good filters, good advanced search options, good, accurate tagging for games and good recommendation algorithms. Steam could (and should) still improve on this part, but they most certainly should not put arbitrary "quality" gates in place when "quality" cannot even be determined via any objective procedure.

Reminder that crows are some of the smartest birds while pidgeons are fucking retarded.

> For the same or lower price
Sure, as long as we're talking about the freebies and not the actual prices especially outside burgerlands.

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Tim Sweeney is making a complete ass out of himself already, he doesn't need help.

Tim Swindle:
>PC is not viable market, piracy rampant, we're going full console
Gabe Chadwell:
>piracy is a service problem, we earn billions
Tim Swindle:
>n-no you watch, I'll make them into pirates

Supposedly they've been funding VR projects to try to ensure they wont need to take any shitty exclusivity deals
Wish they'd bank on something else but hey apparently there are big improvements to VR coming somewhere down the line so maybe it's good to ensure they get a foothold there

>using a new launcher is apparently so little of an issue that people should do it without even thinking about it
>but it's also a big enough issue that if someone doesn't do it you go through the effort of trying to shitpost them into using it

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Epic's "exclusivity" deals are just timed exclusivity. I hardly ever buy games on release. A combination of having a huge backlog, waiting for sales, waiting for all the DLC to release to see if a GOTY bundle will be released, etc. If I'm already waiting anyway, I can wait for the Steam release a year later or however long it takes.

>nothing happened to the consumer
Tell that to the people who have to pay more than US prices in poor countries because EGS charges them the payment processes.

Because Valve has been adding features on top of each other for decades without any attempts to reorganize the entire thing for smooth and intuitive user experience.
It has all the good features but it's structured like absolute ass.
Also, search filters barely fulfill their purpose.

Steam drone consumer whores literally can't wait

I haven't naught any of those

I feel like they've done this more than once

Why would I ever buy something from a company that clearly has contempt for the customer. I feel as though I'm being told "buy this, you stupid fuck. you know you want it, and we're the only ones who sell it :^)".

mod = niggers

>tripfag
get filtered nerd

>Why would I ever buy something from a company that clearly has contempt for the customer

Why do people buy games from Steam?

I wish I could just get all my friends to use TS but they're all a bunch of normies and can't be assed to properly set up microphones. Most of them use discord but the server permissions are basic as fuck and the text chats will either become meme-spam or a soap box for "muh problems"

>implying the opposite isn't way more realistic

Go back to your hole, filth.

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Don't worry, according to Epic Games keynote they want to become the a giant bot net that will manage friendslists, leaders board, achivements ect across all platforms for both pc AND consoles.

*ahem*
IF YOU BUY ON STEAM AND ONLY PIRATE EPIC GAMES, YOU ARE A CORPORATE SHILL AND VERY UNBASED
my tru pirate frens can carry on

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Yes because Steam doesn't eat up your RAM right.
This is Steam on Idle(pic related) no downloads running or anything.

Still this was the first time today that somebody actually made an actual valid constructive point about Epic's store, so here have a cookie.

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chrome and discord eat up WAY more ram than steam ever does. Just because you downloaded a crypto miner doesn't mean we're all that stupid

this
>online region lock for every game on steam
>any vac bans means you can't play online anymore besides with other people who are vac banned
>update valve games like cs:go to source 2

here fixed steam.

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Also Gabe
>paid mods (in my ecosystem so no doubt I'll get a cut :^)) are good for the community
How quick people forgot about that though. People even pin all the blame on Bethesda now, as if Gabe wasn't on side arguing for it

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quiet sweeney, adults are talking here

>How quick people forgot about that though
>hey, paid mods!
>no, fuck off
>ok
>paid mods gone

>hey, cancer exclusivity bribes and higher prices!
>no, fuck off
>fuck you fucker, you're going to pay me anyway you can't get the game anywhere else!
>company leader pledges to continually uphold his cancer exclusivity bribes
>we are here

>tfw bethesda brought back paid mods and no one said a word about it
gamers are really a finicky bunch

>money is how the community steers work
Now that patreon is so big he was pretty much right.
Just look how CEMU went from wii u emulator to BotW emulator because of money.

While paid mods were fucking horrible, I never understood why everyone jumped that much on that comment. It's obviously true. Companies chase profit and profit ultimately comes from the consumers. This was right for paid mods themselves, the community showed itself unwilling to pay for them and as such it steered work away from paid mods. That is exactly correct.

Who mentioned Chrome or Discord?
How stupid are you?

A lot of modders are hypocrites anyway. Having been part of Dota 2 modding stuff, everyone loved to pretend they support open source code and freeware licenses like MIT to their projects but when it came down to it and someone tried to fork somebody else's project to make their own version it just became one huge shitshow ego dick waving contest and people quitting left and right.

They also ostracized the guy that won Valve's custom game contest, congratulating him in the chat but then circlejerking how awful his map is and how shit it is that he won. Guy left like 2 days after he won because he couldn't take it anymore.
Every one was so sure they would be the winner because they had retarded big egos.

If Epic stays the course for another year or so without any blunders, at least until the first wave of timed exclusives hits steam, I'm betting even diehard steamfags will come to think the entire thing's been overblown

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If Epic keeps doing the same thing, there will be new exclusives in a year.

Reminder
Steamdrones be

S T E A M I N '

Lol

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Good thing I don't live in a shithole like that

I won't be surprised if steamkeks defending steam itt turned out to be Valve employees.
the way they're are tripping on their words and arguments makes it seem like their livelihood are dependent on steam not being challenged in the DD space

>I'm venting my teenage rage
If you would put as much energy into getting laid as you put into raging about steam, you would have a girl by now.

steam will win eventually.
right now epic store marketing just blatantly attacks steam store claiming steam is the worse thing ever while epic store doesn't give a fuck about consumers.

no one wants multiple game launchers running, just like no one wanted multiple chat programs open.

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>real games
>VR
pick one

Metro is a series that only got popular after they started re-releasing their games and even then only got middling sales.

I've not seen anyone playing it on Twitch or Youtube, the only reason it has any media presence is people shitting on the Publisher. From what accounts I have managed to see, they say it's a decent game, nothing spectacular.

Top kek
Fucking based

Nobody uses MS Store
Fuck off shill

see what I mean by tripping over themselves?

But it probably won't be worth making a song and dance about then. By that point it's just another launcher to deal with if you want early access, and a year exclusivity doesn't seem that long when it's ran out on games that you're currently playing

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I suppose so, not buying from Epic a year later will be just something standard which everyone got used to.

No one uses the Bethesda store and console fags will eat up anything.

pcgamer.com/new-steam-design-2019/

It's more like "American spyware", if it really is a spyware, shill.

TopKek

Fucking based!

I love this but somebody needs to edit it to make the wojak pc_fat fatter.

Y'all niggas just salty you can't play Borderlands 3 on Steam.

LOL

>can play all other borderlands games on Steam

>Can easily pirate 3 when it releases

lol

>Implying this isn't anything other than manufactured outrage

People who want to play games in the situation of BL3 will just
A) Use the EGS
B) Will wait until the steam release
C) Pirate it

Publishers continue to not give a fuck. PC babies still whining on the floor.

Can't handle it anymore because of that one Chinese malware

You are a bot because you don't use random filenames like a fucking rational human being, you retarded chick robot piece of shit

>epic gets Borderlands 3
>steam gets Risk of Rain 2

I wonder what I should play?

steam dont need to do anything

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>EGS is good for gamers!
>not those guys tho, fuck them

Wake me up when the nip devs are on epic.

>Risk of Rain 2
It's crazy that this pos indie garbo has 10/10 on steam.

I also hate videogames.

I do think they need to stop these timed exclusives for their consumers, but I do think valve is doing better than epic

they cannot do much when epic pay 100 m for exclusivity

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B A S E D

The only thing steam needs to do is to have some sort of legal agreement with publishers so that they don't advertise for months on steam only to apparently take it down because they got bribed by epic.

That shit annoys me. If you're going to go on epic that's fine but at least don't fucking slap your store page on steam.

this
honestly it is absolutely disgusting
these companies should at least to apologize

This is literally why EGS is in the headlines now, because Epic in too fucking stupid to plan ahead or manage PR. Hey guess what, pulling a bunch of anticipated games off of a massive platform to push your own shitty launcher pisses people off. Shocker.

I buy steam deals. I pirate ebin exclusives

Make counteroffers to game devs and publishers that give them the incentive to stay on Steam.

Enjoy your Chinese spyware, faggot.

Gabe has been dead for several years and nobody can take over

That's what they already do with VR development at least. There is no point in throwing money at morons who want to go to epic for a couple of bucks. They'll come back sooner or later anyway.

>the fact that i am able to search up bad games and have them appear makes me so fucking angry you guys, i'm just gonna give my credit card information to the chinese RIGHT now

anyone else here just going to wait 6 months (after epic release) to play borderlands 3 when it gets released on steam anyway? ive never understood the impatience of the hypesnorters

>They are literally losing money since people can't get the game they want on the platform they want, Steam
Actually they don't lose anything, and they know it.
Only EPIC or the devs that get bought out by them are really losing.

How?

>Only have 3 launchers besides Steam
>GOG, Uplay and Battle.net
>GOG doesn't count
>Uplay only use because got free games and aren't a real competitor
>Battle.net also not a real competitor and rarely use

blessed for me

I fucking hate the Chinese so goddamn much...

consumers lost like a decade ago you aren't buying anything when you buy digital

The epic store will bring back piracy, mark my words. If people can't get it conveniently or at all (some regions can't buy games on the epic launcher), they will go back to piracy.

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>Chinese bring back piracy

*thinking face*

HERRO WERCOME TO EPIC GAME STORE! MAY I TAKE YOUR ORDER PREASE?!

YOU WANT BORDERRANDS PRE-ORDER? THAT'S SIXTY DORRA!

YOU WANT ON STEAM?! FUCK YOU!

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Pretty much. Every exclusive I'll either skip or pirate.

way to go admitting you live in a poor part of the world

Yea, especially without wishlists. I never buy shit full price so I stick games I want on my wishlist and wait for a sale. I'm not going to write a game's name in a notepad file and constantly check if it's on sale. I'll just pirate it.

why are you so racist?

I've gotten burned too any times I don't buy fuck all on steam that I haven't already pirated first

Steam takes a cut from all games, most games have marketable items like trading cards, emojis, backgrounds that are marketable and when sold all the tax goes to steam not the company that owns the game.

All their games are f2p lootbox simulators, they have only 360 employees, they have a total equity of 2 billion dollars and rising.

They will never lose money with the stuff they do

>>The epic store will bring back piracy, mark my words
>implying it ever stopped
Let's be honest, the people making a show of picking up piracy now are steambabbies doing it out of brand loyalty. Chances are they're downloading from pleb trackers like TPB as well

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>when sold all the tax goes to steam not the company that owns the game.
wrong
devs and steam get a cut from those things

>Steam makes piracy go down
>Epic makes piracy go up
It really is a service problem, isn't it?

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Oh, sure they will. For countries which don't care if you torrent, it will be the first address they are going to punch in.
Otherwise, there will also be piracy through file-hosting websites.
Piracy, in general, won't get too big again I suppose, but definitely for the games which are exclusive. And if enough people see how easy it is to download games, they might stick to it from time to time.

>Steam is heading for and will become exactly what Valve has let it become - a cesspool of shovelshit, furry porn and unfinished projects

Why is that epic shills constantly see furry porn and trash on steam? I rarely see that stuff on the front page or ib my reccomendations.

Its almost like epic shills are the type to seek out furry porn and trash.

Every dev so far (exception being satisfactory and hades dev) had some sort of big temper tantrum on social media. What is wrong with them?

This. I cant tell you the number of indie games I would have forgotten about if it werent for the wishlist.

I really should give indies more of a chance but i feel my steam filter setting knocks most of them out.

>It really is a service problem, isn't it?
Yeah, same shit happened after Netflix.
Every studio and their mother created a streaming service.

you could use curators. They are very useful for finding good games by people you never heard of

every service has exclusives. whining will not change that. I'm really not sure what you're advocating for here using the mod comparison

Good idea my dude, got any suggestions? I'll research some tomorrow either way.

fo76 has been a huge blunder what rock have you been living under?

>every service has exclusives
But not every service bribes 3rd party companies in order to make them retract their products from all competing stores. Only one service does that.

Only reason Metro has any popularity is because it's like a bootleg STALKER for thirsty fans, and even they aren't happy with it.

You are under the impression that all this noise matters. Stop living in the journalist matrix.

This. I actually like the Metro series but I admit to this. Only reason I picked it up initially was because I was desperate for more STALKER type games. I’m still not salivating over it enough to want to download Epic for it tho. I’d much rather wait for another year for it to come to Steam.

that's not true at all you just don't see it publicized as much, it's true for most large publishers

Steam doesn't need to lower their cut 2bh, not mentioning the fact that it already goes down to 20% based on sales
Epic offers 12%, but none of the massive amounts of utility that steam provides, which includes backend servers, marketplace infrastructure, and a much better designed storefront, among other things

I can guarantee you that epic's cut will go up as soon as they start implementing more features to their barebones storefront

>it's true for most large publishers
What are you even talking about? This is about game store operators, not publishers. What other PC game store has paid 3rd party devs in order to have them remove games from competing shops? I don't think even companies which I would have previously considered the lowest scum possible like EA, Activision and Ubisoft have done it. Do you have examples?

I use it to find stuff for genres I like, but some are dedicated to finding "hidden Gems".
store.steampowered.com/curator/31294838-Hidden-Gem-Discovery/
store.steampowered.com/curator/30503887-The-Metroidvania-Review/
store.steampowered.com/curator/4973374-RPGWatch/
store.steampowered.com/curator/6859203-Visual-Novel-Fans/
store.steampowered.com/curator/6856127-Roguelikes/

What should they do according to you?
Stoop to their level?

publishers decide how their games are distributed not the devs. anyone going under a big name publisher literally does not make the decision for themselves and you can bet that decision is weighed upon back room deals and individually negotiated rates pull your head out of your ass

Look Sweeney said PC market is not viable and full of pirates, and he's gonna make sure it is so

Catch 22 is not meant to be a manual.

Fucking please, provide some evidence of your claims or shove your bullshit back up your ass. Show me somebody else doing what Epic is doing or shut the fuck up. I would not consider garbage like EA to be above doing the same thing, but I don't know of any instance of them actually doing it.

Awesome thanks man I appreciate it!

valve bought entire teams and then had them develop exclusive games for their platform

That's fine, nothing wrong with putting in the money to make games and distributing them on your own platform. Nobody is hating Epic because of Fortnite exclusivity.

so it's okay if it's an internal decision but the moment you decide to partner with someone it's bad now?

It's OK to make games and sell them on your own platform. It is not OK to take bribes with the purpose of removing your product from all competitors of the company bribing you.

but it's okay when it's enough money that they hand you the keys to the building, right?

What the fuck are you even talking about? Are you trying to say people should not be allowed to sell their company or some shit?

>The epic store will bring back piracy, mark my words
OG PC master race pirated games instead of buying it on Steam as a fuck you to publishers and Valve.
You ain't special, kid

Literally no one uses the Window store.

You are fighting Gabe's battle for him, corporate semen slurper.

what the fuck are you even talking about? are you trying to say people should not be allowed to pay another company and sign a contract with them or some shit?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-competitive_practices
based epic bringing in competition

No, they're allowed since it's not against the law. It does make them bottom-tier scum though, which is why they are not worth supporting financially.

Not that user, but holy shit you're dumb.

you're defending a DRM platform which made all of this possible in the first place it isn't software anymore it's a license

good luck installing literally anything without them having signed contracts with a third party and money exchanging hands. valve blocked people from selling on other stores, epic does it, microsoft fucking does it. everyone does it.

>IT'S EXCLUSIVE TO STEAM
>no it's not
>NO THAT STORE DOESN'T COUNT REEEEE
the state of Epic shills.

in case you're too lazy to check, some of the types listed
>Dumping, where a company sells a product in a competitive market at a loss. Though the company loses money for each sale, the company hopes to force other competitors out of the market, after which the company would be free to raise prices for a greater profit.
>Exclusive dealing, where a retailer or wholesaler is obliged by contract to only purchase from the contracted supplier.
>Price fixing, where companies collude to set prices, effectively dismantling the free market.
>Refusal to deal, e.g., two companies agree not to use a certain vendor
>Dividing territories, an agreement by two companies to stay out of each other's way and reduce competition in the agreed-upon territories.
>Limit pricing, where the price is set by a monopolist at a level intended to discourage entry into a market.
>Tying, where products that aren't naturally related must be purchased together.
>Resale price maintenance, where resellers are not allowed to set prices independently.

epic isn't losing money on any of their deals.

they aren't price fixing I don't understand why you bring that up.

they don't have to deal with competitors if they don't want to. that's how everyone operates already

>the price is set by a monopolist at a level intended to discourage entry into a market
valve's cut is tremendous. brick and mortar retailers don't even make that much money on video games. there is nothing about lowering prices that applies here

I don't see the last few points applying either.

They've already brainwashed an entire generation who refuse to buy anything that isn't on Steam. They don't need to compete, not yet.

>valve blocked people from selling on other stores

I keep hearing this claim but never see any proof. Got any examples?

>you're defending a DRM platform
I'm not defending any platform, I'm defending my ability to choose which shop I purchase from, because having choices gives me more options which ultimately lead to me being able to purchase games cheaper. You're the cocksucker trying to make this into some platform war as if Steam is the only shop affected, when that is not the case in any way and Epic is attempting to remove absolutely all choice and control available to consumers.

Also, DRM is optional on Steam, since you seem to be unaware of that fact.

buying steam keys through other retailers isn't a real choice

>more choices arent actually choices.

Freedom is slavery

>buying games for $15-20 cheaper isn't real
Fuck off retard.

>Also, DRM is optional on Steam
Steamfags should be gassed.

>epic isn't losing money on any of their deals.
Pretty sure Sweeney already said he doesn't expect EGS to turn a profit in 2019 due to all the exclusivity deals and sales guarantees.

>they aren't price fixing I don't understand why you bring that up.
Third party stores selling Uplay keys for Division 2 were ordered to stop shortly before the game released- that doesn't like price fixing to you?

Animalistic retards proud of their ignorance shouldn't be allowed to take part in public discussion.

Only a faggot this retarded to have such a garbage opinion would completely miss the point of why this is even a meme and completely shit it up, amazing job you worthless piece of trash

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Remember when people were forced to use steam in order to play games? They hated it.

DRM is not optional on Steam you fucking nigger.
Steam itself is DRM.

Reminder that Epic also fucked people who funded a Kickstarter for a game that promised GOG keys. Fuck Epic.
Anyone who defends Epic exclusives when they took away a DRM free option for a game, should be ignored.

Yea Forums's resident steamfags weren't playing on PC then

do you really think you have a choice? okay so I can buy a key from gamestop and then go to steam and plug it in, or I can buy from walmart and then go to steam and plug it in. choices

games on steam nowadays aren't really appreciably cheaper. as long as we have keys for things I assume there are going to be people trading unredeemed ones like they do for any other service.

not making a profit doesn't mean they aren't cash flow positive, they are just reinvesting into the company very heavily

>Third party stores selling Uplay keys for Division 2 were ordered to stop shortly before the game released- that doesn't like price fixing to you?
what does this have to do with price fixing? do you understand what price fixing is?

haha not me
especially now not that gog exists

>epic isn't losing money on any of their deals.
nigga he straight admitted in a tweet they are loosing money on the exclusivity deals
>they aren't price fixing I don't understand why you bring that up.
it's a copy paste of the list, I assume you have brain to analyze what applies and how, it was never made to address epic practices
>they don't have to deal with competitors if they don't want to. that's how everyone operates already
paying someone money to cut off your competitor is not a how everyone operates already
>rest and misinterpretation
see above

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dude they are making a sick VR headset nobody will ever buy

Why the fuck would Valve care about anything at all. The money just keeps on flowing from Dota, CSGO and all other shit

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Horse shit. Steam accepts third party keys while epic doesnt. That alone makes it a shittier alternative since I cant save 20%-35% on new games.

Presumably because Valve is a cautious company that weighs their decisions pretty slowly. As for 'losing money,' they're not. Valve is privately owned, they have no investors to answer to, 'not making even more profit' is not 'losing money.'

I could see Valve increasing the dev cut more, fiddling with that side of things seems likely. It's possible there will be a lawsuit over Epic using Steam's files illegally.

>SJW Bloodlines 2
Nope
>Tropico 6
Not been good since 4
>Shenmue III
Is there literally a single human being who cares about this series at this point?
>Psychonauts 2
How did this even get a sequel, the first one was hipster wankbait that sold like old dogshit.
>Tekken 7
Worst recurring fighting game franchise there is.
>Soul Calibur 6
Didn't sell worth a damn, and small wonder.
>Octopath Traveler
Literally who?
>KH 3
I'm not a 12-year-old future school shooter.
>Ace Combat 7
Don't care,

Fixed with perfect paint skills.

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Epic xD

thx

Epic is the one bleeding money, exclusivity of literally who games won't hurt steam.
>Worst tripfag on Yea Forums supports epic
Simbly ebic

This is epic, epic for the win!

Im sorry, but as much as I liked Exodus (preorder on steam) the EGS horseshit made discussion impossible because nobody could play it and i wish luck pirating 60 gb.
The buyout quite genuinely ruined everyone’s exitement. There were at best like four threads of the game reaching limit.

Based and Poohpilled.

Will Epicfags ever recover?

Based Tripchink, look at all those seething steamcuck (You)'s