What are your thoughts on a silent hill game with a gay protagonist?
What are your thoughts on a silent hill game with a gay protagonist?
I would be mad because the whole game's plot would revolve around it.
That’s the point. I think it’d be a great way to write a good gay vidya character whose sexuality is actually relivent to the story.
>Wahhh being gay is so traumatizing looked how fucked up my world is!
It'd be lame as shit, being a fag is not interesting
I think that's super fucking gay and so are you.
What would be the reason him being there? What's his sin, motivation etc?
Make him a closet case. Should get some really fucked up monsters. Everyone knows queers are great for mental trauma.
Being a gay, duh.
That was what I was going for too. Maybe a fag raised in a hyper religious environment who has some serious issues. Also it’s worth mentioning that like sort of got at, his status as a homo doesn’t have to be the defining aspect of his personality or life.
>what's his sin
what would his """monsters""" look like? what do the gays truly fear?
That's lame as fuck, nobody cares that you can't get over your desire to suck dick. The only way it would be worth is if he was abused but then that would be considered anti-homo propaganda.
Silent Hill 4 already exists though.
If he was a gay in denial probably hyper masculine, hyper sexualized monsters, so kinda reverse Silent Hill 2.
Equality
Women and a prosperous society.
that would actually be kind of cool imagine there being like aids monsters and big black men with monster cocks
Being sad you killed your wife isn’t very interesting either. And again, the story doesn’t have to be fundamentally based on the fact that he’s gay, no more than James’s story was based on the fact that he’s straight.
blue suits
What do you mean, one is about murder and a crime, some of the most timeless narrative premises and the other is a story building up to you admitting you want to suck cock. How do you even say what you say with a straight face.
Commitment
Like I’ve said, his being gay doesn’t have to be THE story, just an aspect of his character. James’s story wasn’t about the fact he was straight for instance, even though he was.
>James’s story wasn’t about the fact he was straight for instance
A large part of it was about his sexual desires.
Has anyone here ever played LISA: The Painful?
In that game there's no women anymore.
Society has broken down, men have lost hope for the future and all the most sinister aspects of masculinity are rampaging, out in the open.
Men harming others for no reason, men eating other men, men raping other men.
There's comradery, but it's mixed in with insanity.
There's even literal representations of the deepest, darkest desires of men in Joy Mutants, drug-warped nightmarish creatures that act on a single core desire they fixate upon and never stop until they're satisfied, or destroyed.
In that game the story revolves around one last girl being still alive.
In my mind, a SH game with a gay protagonist would work in a similiar way, instead of making the focus of the story be a girl, make it a twink.
Have the twink be surrounded by men at all times, have the setting be a desolate version of SH where masculinity in all forms is ever present, all the monsters are based on different masculine traits, and their attacks based on male desires, primal hunger that ranges from physical harm to satisfying sexual needs no matter the cost.
Play on the inherent cold, detached, borderline sociopathic nature of some men, present one of the bosses as a strong authority figure and how imposing he feels compared to how meek the twink protagonist is (possibly daddy issues included).
And so on, and so on.
Women low key hate gay men, dude. They think of us as sellouts because we just wanna suck cock and don't give two shits about their retarded white girl agender retard garbage identity politics bullshit.
As long there are demonic leather daddies I'm all the way in
>A large part of it was about his sexual desires.
Why can’t a similar story be made about a gay character?
this is the final boss
I'm saying it could. But it'd work best if no part actually says that he's a gay. Just inferred.
What would a forced identity politics add to the story of the game? Making MCs gay just for the heck of it is damn counter intuitive .
If it was written well it wouldn’t be forced.
Reminder that Walter in SH4 had his entire sexuality destroyed (possibly brutally raped as a kid too) and was basically an asexual emotionally dead monster that viscerally hated women and had gigantic mommy issues, and that's part of the reason why he's the best and most interesting character in the entire series.
That goes without saying.
Sexuality is a huge element in almost all SH games.
It wouldn't be forced at all, it would be a fundamental building block to construct themes and designs for the setting itself.
What does having a gay character have to do with it? A good game is a good game, and a shit game is a shit game.
Way too late to do that plot, being gay is a lot more societally accepted now and it just wouldn't be that interesting
Aids
Just gonna repost this from another thread to see what more people think:
Silent hill games are made by their story and atmosphere. As actual games their pretty shite.
>if it's done good, it won't be bad!
duh!
But HOW would you go around doing that? For what purpose?
This is the ages old problem with the SJW-agenda driving game design; they start with the identity politics as the center piece, and only THEN start forming the game and the story around it, when it should always be the polar opposite. Better yet, the sexuality should not be a key factor at all, as the story should preferably work no matter what kind of person is in the lead.
>Sexuality is a huge element in almost all SH games.
No. It's a sort-of key figure in SH2, and even then it's not the all-explaining pivot point of the game.
It's merely one of the handful of details used as a theme for specific designs.
>not sure how a phallic creature would be "received"
lol
>As actual games their pretty shite.
How so?
They are just as great, if not better horror-adventure titles than the original RE games, with fucktons of replay-value to back them up as well.
I liked Claudia the most of any antagonist. Walter was great, but a lot of what he did and what his goals were, were too esoteric for me. To this day I don't fully understand what the end goal of the 21 Sacraments was.
Uhhh dude.
It's been a thing in SH since forever.
>this is your mind on incel fuel
There are countless factors that go into a good story beyond the binary decision of whether a character is gay or straight.
That's the response I was looking for ty.
Did you just not pay attention?
I don’t know, I’m not a writer or an SJW for that matter. I’m just saying it’d be cool to see and I think it’s an idea with a lot of potential.
Walter an incel?
Maybe, i guess?
But he actually really loves his mom, incels hate every woman including their own mother so i feel like he dodges that brand by making an exception.
He's also extremely fond of Eileen, not even necessarily in a sexual way, that's not something an incel would ever feel for any woman.
>I’m just saying it’d be cool to see and I think it’s an idea with a lot of potential.
Why?
Seriously, the few actually good "gay" characters in history of vidya and film have been so subtle, that you wouldn't necessary even realize it.
I meant they'd be more of a focus rather that 1 boss or a few background elements.
>why?
Because it’s not something you see particularly often like you yourself point out and it’d be a good opportunity to write a really good fag character.
The end goal of the 21 sacraments is either:
-To allow the otherworld to take over reality, but in a smallish area
-To create a stable pocket of otherworld that can't "go away" or "be dispelled"
Either way the key feature is that unlike what Claudia and Dhalia were doing, the end goal is not to let the otherworld take over the entirety of our normal reality.
Walter was only interested in finishing the ritual for his own personal goal, wich is to become one again with his mom.
He needs a "stable pocket" and to be eternally one with his mom.
Whatever the original intent of the ritual and how it would be "followed up" upon, we'll never know, because Walter isn't interested in performing it for what the Order wanted, he's just using it for his own personal interests and once he's one with mother, he stop there, satisfied.
>it’d be a good opportunity to write a really good fag character.
Sorry, but no.
Your whole argument here is "there's too few fags in games, so let's try to make a good fag game!".
That simply does not work, and does not add anything to the IP itself.
Additionally it's worth noting that some of the elements of the ritual, such as the White Chrism, are also used in SH2 by both Ernest Baldwin and James himself (in one of the endings).
It seems like the same elements can be used to interact with the otherworld/manipulate it in slightly different ways.
>That simply does not work, and does not add anything to the IP itself.
Again you seem to insist on willfully interpreting my statements as meaning I want a full on fag character whose entire life is based around the fact that he’s gay and whose sexuality the game 100% revolves around. That’s not what I’m saying at all, just that I think as far as a hypothetical protagonist goes, the potent mix of emotions a scenario like and might give rise too a character more susceptible to the town’s influence than others might be. I’m not talking about plot.
It's not about being too few fags, it's about being a reasonable subject to exploit for the themes.
>even more phallic imagery everywhere
No thanks, we get enough already.
but most gays are demented people. their minds would make great horror stories. some of them just LOOK demented heh
>just that I think as far as a hypothetical protagonist goes, the potent mix of emotions a scenario like and might give rise too a character more susceptible to the town’s influence than others might be.
That there is your second mistake: repeating the "The town's alive and makes ya see ur demuns!!" meme that's been debunked kazillion times, but seems to not die out.
The town of SH is not some twisted shrink universe, and only 1 out of 4 original games even revolved around the MC's personal projections.
In just about any other scenario, that might be the case.
However, not only has the handful of available taboos and fears surrounding homosexuality been done to death by numerous media publications, especially in recent years, the theme does not exactly add much to the Silent Hill's lore itself. And as seen ITT, it easily gets taken to the tasteless, parodic extremes of "lol DICKS, get it??"
Finally, the main era of Silent Hill is only roughly early 1980s to early 00s. That does not leave much room for social shun of the early 20th century or before, and anything later would practically turn into self-parodying re-warming of old ideas.
Not like there will be a good SH game ever again
>been done to death by numerous media publications
But not Silent Hill.
>theme does not exactly add much to the Silent Hill's lore itself
Hard disagree. I'm not saying it'll expand Silent Hill. It just works well with what's established. And logically, far better than the other shite we've had since 4. That isn't to say Homecoming's PTSD wasn't also a fertile choice, but that it was poorly executed. A closet homo should be easier to do well.
>Finally, the main era of Silent Hill is only roughly early 1980s to early 00s.
So do it then? Make it the 80s or something with the AIDS craze.
sounds gay
>What are your thoughts on a silent hill game with a gay protagonist?
Silent Hill 3 is alright
That’s the idea.
That's a woman, not a gay. They're two different things, though it can be hard to tell at a glance.The trick is to put them in a manual car, and see if they have trouble changing gears. The woman will struggle, and the gay will be fellating or sodomising the gearshift.
As long as he encounters scary "girls"
moment in 4 where you break through the appartment wall and find his corpse is one of the top 5 horror moments in video games, that was so goddamn effective
SH4 is honestly one of the games that need a proper remake desperately, such a wasted potential.
He would be chased by Dilator head through the game
I thought it was a solid game. Just didnt like how stupid Henry was.
If only Cynthia had fucked his hobo brains out none of this would have ever happened.
Why tho?
>The fear of blood tends to create fear for the flesh
what did they mean by this?
SH4 is full of great ideas. The only problem with it was Henry´s blandness and the combat system
The combat was better than the previous imo because in 4 ammo was scarce unlike the previous games where you never ran out.
You see blood and get scared your flesh will get hurt
>Game that has drifted into saying its all mental illness made real by volcano gods.
>Have a gay character.
The amount of baggage alone, man.
That you are a dumb fuck and that you unwillingly started believing that SH was ever good and that it has great writing due to peer pressure of 2edgy4you retards
>his status as a homo doesn’t have to be the defining aspect of his personality or life.
>But its still the reason he is sent into a twisted hellscape shaped by him being a homo.
Can't have it both ways!
Imagine being this pleb
Yea Forums is filled with a wonderful combination of self-hating gays and legitimate homophobes. Its a powder keg of smoldering sexuality.